THE FIRST OPIUM WAR EXPLAINED - ANGLO CHINESE WAR DOCUMENTARY

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
  • As a thousand year old civilisation, once the most powerful nation on earth, clashed with a recently industrialised western power over issues regarding trade and opium, the world set its eyes on China. Global geopolitics would irreversably shift as the British Empire and the Qing dynasty entered the First Opium War. Discover the course of the war as Lin Zexu and Charles Elliot serve their nations, launching a devastating conflict.
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    ♫ MUSIC ♫
    Peace for Generations - Europa Universalis 4
    Forest Shade - Europa Universalis 4
    Elizabeth War Theme - Civilization V
    Wu Zetian Peace Theme - Civlization V
    Wu Zetian War Theme - Civlization V
    The Fleet's Last Stand - Empire Total War
    Lost in the Forest
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    Empire Theme - Empire Total War
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    🎬 VIDEO CREDITS 🎬
    The Opium War (1997)
    📜 MAIN SOURCES 📜
    China Trade and Empire (2006), Le Pichon, Alain
    Online Collection National Army Museum, London
    Chinese account of the Opium war (1888), Parker, Edward, Harper
    Modern Chinese Warfare (2001), Elleman, Bruce A
    Narrative of the Voyages and Services of the Nemesis, from 1840 to 1843 (1844), Bernard & Hall
    🏷️ TAGS 🏷️
    first opium war documentary
    first opium war explained
    anglo chinese war documentary
    lin zexu
    charles elliot
    treaty of nanking
    canton system
    convention of chuenpi
    Introduction: (0:00)
    Prelude: (0:44)
    War (1st part): (08:19)
    Intermission: (13:30)
    War (2nd part): (15:16)
    War (3rdpart): (24:58)
    Aftermath: (33:58)
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  • @attackpatterndelta8949
    @attackpatterndelta8949 2 роки тому +136

    “It’s very hard to sell wool to people who are wearing silk.”
    - David Olusoga

    • @roundedges2
      @roundedges2 2 роки тому +9

      Unless it snows

    • @Mooocheropordis
      @Mooocheropordis 2 роки тому +3

      Silk thermals are lovely

    • @attackpatterndelta8949
      @attackpatterndelta8949 2 роки тому +2

      @@roundedges2 I’m not familiar with the weather in China. Does it snow there a lot? I imagine the Chinese were used to it long before the British came along, flagging their rough spun wool.

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 2 роки тому +3

      @@roundedges2 actually people of mangolia wear Bear fur in winter , and women wore fox fur as luxury and statues sympol , they did have wool so they didnt need to import it

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 2 роки тому +8

      @@attackpatterndelta8949 northen regions in china does have snow, they basically near russia and mangolia nations known for their cold weather , but also they have deserts and forests , china is just too big they have every land scape

  • @Psy0psAgent
    @Psy0psAgent 2 роки тому +91

    Show called Sliders. Season 2. One episode Professor Arturo asks, “do you know why the sun has never set on the British empire? Because not even god trusts those bastards in the dark.”

  • @MrLangam
    @MrLangam 3 роки тому +356

    So.. British trading company was the biggest drug cartel ever existed.

  • @martinphilip8998
    @martinphilip8998 2 роки тому +137

    We once asked my mother, born in 1924, who our wealthiest ancestor was. She said she had a great great aunt who owned a line of clipper ships. Only after reading about the Opium Wars I surmised that basically she was a smuggler and drug dealer. The batteries they mentioned as ineffective were cemented in place and could not be aimed. Duh.

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 Рік тому +7

      One British soldier noticed that one of the cannons they captured, had been cast in the year 1601.

    • @martinphilip8998
      @martinphilip8998 Рік тому +16

      @@wolfu597 When you read about a Chinese treasure found in an Englishman’s garden, you know where it came from. The French were the worst though. They burned so much precious silk and smashed statuary. The British soldiers were under orders not to loot. Well . . . My girlfriend is Chinese and this is part of her nation’s memories.

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 Рік тому +1

      @@martinphilip8998 I hear ya.
      But the Qing forces also engaged in looting. From the very people they were meant to protect.

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 Рік тому +7

      @@martinphilip8998 And I think you're referring to the destruction of the Imperial Summer Palace? I agree with you that it was a despicable act.
      But the reason for this, was how the Qing forces had treated the 26 members of a delegation that had tried to open up negotiationm but ended up being captured by the Qing forces outside the Imperial capital.
      The delegation were held in captivity for less than a month, but when they were released, 15 of the delegations members had died. From starvation, torture and malnutrition.
      When the Western soldiers saw the condition of the survivors and heard what had happened to the rest of the delegation members, they went into a rage, and wanted to ransack and burn down the entire capital city.
      But lord Elgin convinced that they needed to go after the Emperor instead. And since the Qing courts weren't taking the Western powers seriously, they decided to destroy the Summer palace complex.
      A dishonorable act indeed, but it was the lesser of two evils.

    • @martinphilip8998
      @martinphilip8998 Рік тому +4

      @@wolfu597 You are well read. Wasn’t Elgin the father of the Elgin who took the Greek marbles?

  • @vapaus831
    @vapaus831 5 місяців тому +6

    In 1729, Yongzheng ordered a ban on smoking, but what was banned was the mixture of tobacco and opium - what we commonly call "Madak", not the opium itself. Opium imports are still used as medicinal materials.

  • @derekchastain4043
    @derekchastain4043 3 роки тому +131

    This is exactly the video for which I've waited for years. It's quite well done with detail and background, but so not long as to lose the one watching. I'm neither British nor Chinese, but the story appears to be told from a relatively unbiased perspective.

    • @brandonbroniszewski890
      @brandonbroniszewski890 3 роки тому +21

      Unbiased? The "honourable" east India trading company? The British lost 15, the Chinese lost 1500. The British saluted their honourable defense. This is clearly a British take on what happened.

    • @gavinthegreatgavinthegreat97
      @gavinthegreatgavinthegreat97 3 роки тому +5

      @@brandonbroniszewski890 The victor writes history, of course it’s told from a British perspective, they won.

    • @brandonbroniszewski890
      @brandonbroniszewski890 3 роки тому +12

      @@gavinthegreatgavinthegreat97 I recognize the victor tells the story. But it's am obviously biased point of view, which was the discussion

    • @rosebud4387
      @rosebud4387 2 роки тому +6

      This account from the video is not at all"unbiased" it is a sanitized version of history to make the English look good. It has left out many significant facts and details. Typical English colonial rewrite of history.

    • @newaddress456
      @newaddress456 2 роки тому +1

      @@rosebud4387 The narrator was probably British.

  • @trippleskhj1104
    @trippleskhj1104 2 роки тому +112

    I never really knew how HK was ceded to the British until I bumped into this channel. Great summary of the Opium war history in 36 mins! I learned from the local that this was one of the greatest humiliation to the Qing dynasty. The emperor was painted with a very different story of what was actually happening on the ground by the generals. In movies, emperors were portrayed as useless and only busy with all the concubines. Their failure to reform brought their own downfall. It's a very dark period in Chinese history. Very sad.

    • @gunsumwong3948
      @gunsumwong3948 2 роки тому +5

      In Qing dynasty China was ruled by Manchu ethnicity, one of the 56 in China. Manchu has only 10 millions population and represents 0.7% of the Chinese population today. The real China is nothing like the Manchu. With the modern communication no foreign power can do to China like what they did in 1900s.

    • @veronicalogotheti5416
      @veronicalogotheti5416 2 роки тому +2

      They are not really chinese
      They came from japan corea

    • @gunsumwong3948
      @gunsumwong3948 2 роки тому +1

      @@veronicalogotheti5416 An outsider knows about Chinese history better than the Chinese themselves?

    • @veronicalogotheti5416
      @veronicalogotheti5416 2 роки тому +3

      @@gunsumwong3948 i think chinese always knew
      The winners write the history

    • @gunsumwong3948
      @gunsumwong3948 2 роки тому +4

      @@veronicalogotheti5416 That is the English speaking world control on media too. The winner doesn't always right or just. The world come to know it gradually.
      The misinformation now fires back at the English speaking countries by telling them everything China does is bad, wrong, evil, corrupted and authoritarian.so the right way is to do things opposite to China. Well China this time get the covid control right and the English-speaking countries are now in pieces. Today US, UK and Australia have population anti-science, bend on doing what the government wants, protesting against wearing a mask, taking a test, doing social distancing, obeying lockdown and even against vaccine all at the height of a pandemic.
      Open your eye and you will see your "winner" is degenerating into a "loser". If you don't recognise a mistake you will never correct it and the mistake will persist. US has been claiming victory and helping Afghan to build a democratic country over 20 years in Afghanistan too.

  • @elvenkind6072
    @elvenkind6072 2 роки тому +14

    The Opium trade made it possible for USA to begin the Industrial Revolution, where the railroads was built on the addiction of the Chinese. For example Franklin D. Roosevelt, where the D. came from Delano was from the part of his family that was rich since those days. I'm not sure what the Opium Wars made possible for Britain, but I can imagine it was similar.

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin4962 4 роки тому +347

    Columbian cartels, "I'm the best drug dealer."
    CIA, "I'm the best drug dealer."
    British Empire, "Amateurs."

    • @theccpisaparasite8813
      @theccpisaparasite8813 3 роки тому +16

      Chinese fentanyl traffickers: the lot of you are bloody amateurs

    • @rasheedelakhlaqsiz4753
      @rasheedelakhlaqsiz4753 3 роки тому +2

      Colombia? That is a third-world country, if it comes down to it, it can be easily taken over.

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 2 роки тому +5

      @@theccpisaparasite8813
      UA-cam search drug dealers in doctor clothings.
      Here's the situation people face:
      1). Walk into your doctor's office for a light illness or pain, doctor prescribes you some "pain reliever" that will relieve your pain.
      2). Go home, and take one of those meds every morning. Soon, you'll get a tolerance to that level/amount of medication, so you'll up the dose due to your body naturally needing more to get anything out of it.
      3). Addiction. Since those opioids are highly addictive, you've managed to unknowingly step into a mass addiction process. This will only increase your demand for those medication, not by choice, but by the body's addiction.
      4). You go back to doctor, in order for more pills since you have an addiction to them. Doctor says "Sure, I'll give you some more" and afterwards you pay the regular price, and gain an even heavier addiction. So the cycle continues.
      5). Producer of said drugs decided that in order to make some BIG bucks, they pull out nearly ALL of the intended supply going there, and by basic laws of Supply & Demand, the price of said drugs goes ROARING up into the skies, selling even at hundreds of dollars per pill bottle.
      6). People are addicted to said drug, and will have withdrawal symptoms. Since they have these symptoms, they'll buy more medication at the price the company/pharmacy is charging... until, they can't.
      7). A mass of people suffer from withdrawal symptoms, have both life breaking medical and financial damages, and overall their life gets sh*ttier than it already was.
      I'd like to remind you, that these aren't some drug skipping hardcore rap pablo escobar people, these are just simple mountain folks in WV who probably don't even believe in the legalization of pot.
      Snow Miser. . 1 day ago. . @cmdmd Here's the situation people face:
      1). Walk into your doctor's office for a light illness or pain, doctor prescribes you some "pain reliever" that will relieve your pain.
      2). Go home, and take one of those meds every morning. Soon, you'll get a tolerance to that level/amount of medication, so you'll up the dose due to your body naturally needing more to get anything out of it.
      3). Addiction. Since those opioids are highly addictive, you've managed to unknowingly step into a mass addiction process. This will only increase your demand for those medication, not by choice, but by the body's addiction.
      4). You go back to doctor, in order for more pills since you have an addiction to them. Doctor says "Sure, I'll give you some more" and afterwards you pay the regular price, and gain an even heavier addiction. So the cycle continues.
      5). Producer of said drugs decided that in order to make some BIG bucks, they pull out nearly ALL of the intended supply going there, and by basic laws of Supply & Demand, the price of said drugs goes ROARING up into the skies, selling even at hundreds of dollars per pill bottle.
      6). People are addicted to said drug, and will have withdrawal symptoms. Since they have these symptoms, they'll buy more medication at the price the company/pharmacy is charging... until, they can't.
      7). A mass of people suffer from withdrawal symptoms, have both life breaking medical and financial damages, and overall their life gets sh*ttier than it already was.
      I'd like to remind you, that these aren't some drug skipping hardcore rap pablo escobar people, these are just simple mountain folks in WV who probably don't even believe in the legalization of pot.

    • @rosebud4387
      @rosebud4387 2 роки тому +2

      @@condorX2 and wot are you on?

    • @oldfan1963
      @oldfan1963 2 роки тому +6

      IDK -- I think the CIA really cornered the market. :)

  • @MaroonedInDub
    @MaroonedInDub 3 роки тому +24

    A very good narration. Kept me interested all the way through. Glad to have found you.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed ! Thanks for following

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому +1

      @@History_of_China You are not lying, but not telling the whole truth.

    • @josephlee4337
      @josephlee4337 3 місяці тому

      @@vapaus831 You mean not the whole story.

  • @henrikrolfsen584
    @henrikrolfsen584 Рік тому +4

    Amazing, and so valuable is this story! A history of profound historical, economic, and cultural events!

  • @CALEBBYPRODUCTIONS
    @CALEBBYPRODUCTIONS 4 роки тому +27

    Another great Video! Thanks for posting man! Appreciate the time taken to do up your research and compile them correctly and accurately for us.

    • @Allgood33
      @Allgood33 2 роки тому

      Correctly? The first sentence in this video was already wrong.

    • @dustastro534
      @dustastro534 Рік тому

      @@Allgood33 I assume that in the video, the "1,000 year old civilization" was china itself, rather than the Qing dynasty. As china has been a civilization for over 3,000 years. obviously the Qing dynasty (1636 - 1911) was not 1,000 years old, in which case you would be right. But I guess we will never know what exactly he meant.

    • @u2-tv899
      @u2-tv899 10 місяців тому

      🤨 💭
      Hmmm Oooh lord🤦‍♂️!…
      Any story about about Western nations invading Asia, Africa, America, Middle East, Pacific, etc… always excruciating…
      Afterwards, they’d send Priests into that territory to continue spread their evil spirits…
      Western civilization acting like world police officers but they’re the robbers, thieves, criminals, etc…

  • @davidkharat1
    @davidkharat1 3 роки тому +28

    I loved your documentary about opium war. I will be watching it several times more to memorize all the events. Great job. Thanks

  • @wolf6631
    @wolf6631 3 роки тому +5

    Outstanding beautiful work of art!

  • @jerryc5743
    @jerryc5743 8 місяців тому +1

    This is an incredible channel. Extremely well done!

  • @Natogoon
    @Natogoon 3 роки тому +63

    So glad I found this channel.

  • @wolfu597
    @wolfu597 3 роки тому +17

    Thank you for this documentary on the first Opium War.
    Until I watched your video, I've never had much interest in knowing about this war. Well, now I want to know more, about both wars.
    Thank you.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your comment ! Glad you enjoyed :)

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 3 роки тому +4

      @@History_of_China Could you make a video about the Second Opium War, as well?

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 6 місяців тому

      @@History_of_China You will only hide the fact.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 2 роки тому +6

    It was super interesting thank you. Also your pronunciation of both English and Chinese was very good.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@History_of_China You are not lying, but not telling the whole truth.

    • @malin5468
      @malin5468 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, the pronunciation is perfect.

  • @hygog
    @hygog 4 роки тому +150

    when we were in secondary school in hong kong (colonial era) it was called “Sino-British War”, i am still puzzling how these war were named why Sino-British and sometimes Anglo-Chinese... Also the view point on the same war in difference lesson is slightly different. Like in Chinese history lesson which taught in Chinese, it is a drug war, simply “opium war”, not “sino-british war” whatsoever, it was an invasion from foreign power, violation of sovereignty shit and such. In world history lesson which taught in English entirely it was more like a trade war, focusing on treaties, silver, deficit, east india company and such... It was interesting to see how the same thing was interpreted. (btw, the world history book was way fucking thicker.... what a nightmare)

    • @ninja_whale
      @ninja_whale 4 роки тому +21

      Yes!! When I learned about this war for the second time in North America, it was taught from the "the Chinese weren't treating the British as equals in the trade relationship, so we had to fight" perspective, which was super different from when I learned it the first time on the other side of the ocean (where the story was centered around opium). I find the temporal and geographic variations in the framing of the war to be suppperrr intereseting :'D

    • @hygog
      @hygog 4 роки тому +23

      Ninja Whale 忍者鲸 makes u doubt everything taught since then isn’t it, there is no real history, just interpretation of things that happened.

    • @ninja_whale
      @ninja_whale 4 роки тому +7

      @@hygog yep yep ^___^ and made me realize historiography is just as fun to study as the history itself ^___^

    • @cfkeithc
      @cfkeithc 3 роки тому +14

      The victors are the ones that write history

    • @ShahjahanMasood
      @ShahjahanMasood 3 роки тому +3

      @@cfkeithc yeah tell that to the Romans

  • @RojaJaneman
    @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому +33

    @01:59 conquest of India was definitely not costly. British citizens didn’t lose a soldier nor taxes. It was mostly won by other Indian troops, under east India company that paid for it all by plundering Indian kings.
    It wasn’t out of a necessity, they did it out of pure greed.

    • @paulgraham8280
      @paulgraham8280 2 роки тому +4

      What always stuck me about the conquest of the Raj was that 150 million Indian's were ruled by 5,000 British, the mob is the power but they couldn't put their petty differences aside to cast us out.
      Replies most welcome.

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 2 роки тому +13

      @@paulgraham8280 if you looked at india you would understand why it happened , first unlike india , china had majoriy han ethical group who allowed minority machurains and mangolians to rule them cuz they had formed some kind alliance over year , ALSO unlike multi religious india , china was prodominaitly buddists and taoist which very similar to each other , BUT india have mulitple religions that been in battle with each others even before the british , and british use divide and concque so it was easier for them to take over already divided india then china who were majority people of same han group

    • @walkwithmisuk
      @walkwithmisuk 2 роки тому +3

      @@sakurakou2009 well said.The conflict occured between muslims and hindus after they both vanished Buddhism from Indian subcontinent. The britishers got a lot of advantage from the the Divide and Rule (muslims vs. Hindus)...Then it was just a matter of time to conquer south-east Asia and China.

    • @nit23sharma
      @nit23sharma Рік тому +1

      ​@@walkwithmisuk ....it was never about religion....it was competing interests....hindu rajputs took help from brits against hindu marathas....Muslim Nizam n Muslim Tipu Sultan were enemies n nizam took British help......

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      Next, the definition of a drug dealer is a person who sells illegal drugs. The UK only did these things before 1900s instead of now and it is not illegal. In addition, your "victim" which is Qing also allow opium instead of opium tobacco, since both side allow opium trade to happen, then all that exists is a trade relationship, there's nothing illegal about it.

  • @WW-fn7rt
    @WW-fn7rt 2 роки тому +30

    This was one of the most well hidden pieces of history I've ever come across. A shop owner told me about all of this and that is how I found out about this.

    • @tetrahedron1000
      @tetrahedron1000 2 роки тому +2

      What was he selling?

    • @goatvision6908
      @goatvision6908 2 роки тому +3

      You must live in a history void. This is a shallow and trivial account. Please read some books.

    • @joelim5010
      @joelim5010 2 роки тому +2

      @@goatvision6908 I'm pretty sure 70% of the british population now doesnt know this history. Just like how many americans now don't know why the civil war was fought. Very sad that our youth nowadays does not have interest in history.

    • @spankme8484
      @spankme8484 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@goatvision6908 So which books do you recommend then?

    • @goatvision6908
      @goatvision6908 2 роки тому

      @@spankme8484 Julia Lovell's book is good but inverts the paradigms in operation. Basically in all retrospective analysis it is important to refer to present day trading patterns to see how relative security of the players is maintained. This is not done in any book that I know of. All start from the premise that western firepower was so overwhelming that the advantage was comprehensively on the side of the outside players. This was also the situation in Viet Nam.
      Consider yourself a clipper skipper. My Great great grandfather was a clipper skipper and his logs are with me. His concerns were scurvy and sailors. The opium delivery was a small part of his concern because the Chinese looked after everything from the port onwards. I don't think he even landed in Canton. Straight into cutters from the hold. Might have been a busy day there. The point is that even if they had made landfall then what would they have done? Run about looking for a buyer without the language?
      Imagine arriving with a ton of Japanese medicine in France and then trying to distribute it. It would be hard to avoid engaging Frenchmen to help. Pretty soon the helpers would be able to take over the business. Distribution is always where the best margins are.

  • @Archangelm127
    @Archangelm127 4 роки тому +11

    Fascinating as always. :)

  • @stephen1569
    @stephen1569 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding. Thank you, Sir.

  • @Comment394
    @Comment394 3 роки тому +1

    I enjoyed watching and learning. Thanks!

  • @richasingh856
    @richasingh856 3 роки тому +96

    Honourable British east India company.....My foot.

    • @theccpisaparasite8813
      @theccpisaparasite8813 3 роки тому +6

      You thought it was? Seriously? I don't even think they thought of themselves as honorable. It was simply a case of a technologically and militarily superior society thinking of a more backward and primitive society as totally inferior 'barbarians'. Hell the same attitude prevailed at the Chinese Imperial Court. This was a war that the British greed and desperation made inevitable. Not to excuse the British actions but I don't see how it was avoidable on either end. These were simple-minded men without vision. I think that this behavior was absolutely endemic in all human cultures until ... WWII which should have been a wake up call. Which it was in Europe and the America and most English-speaking peoples. I think parts of Asia still don't get it. The Russians didn't until the 80's. This is the century where, unfortunately, China will have to be taught that lesson.

    • @jagdpanther2224
      @jagdpanther2224 3 роки тому +4

      @@theccpisaparasite8813 The USA & allies were world parasites! That says all!

    • @theccpisaparasite8813
      @theccpisaparasite8813 3 роки тому +4

      @@jagdpanther2224 the truth of that is debatable, but I definitely agree with the operative word "were" thank your agreeing with me. The CCP _is_ and two world wars should have taught them that its wrong.

    • @blastermaster5039
      @blastermaster5039 3 роки тому +1

      @@theccpisaparasite8813
      Based

    • @rosebud4387
      @rosebud4387 2 роки тому +2

      @@theccpisaparasite8813 Good luck with that and try taking off your western colored glasses they are giving you a skewered view of history and the present.

  • @Ahmad-nf9ez
    @Ahmad-nf9ez 3 роки тому +12

    Great, engaging video. I love Chinese History!

  • @notthebeaver1532
    @notthebeaver1532 Рік тому +2

    I'm surprised I haven't come across this channel before.
    Good Content 👍👌💪

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  Рік тому

      Thank you!

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@History_of_China You are not lying, but not telling the whole truth.

  • @karlmarty4750
    @karlmarty4750 2 роки тому +1

    Here I am watching this video with a cup of tea. Great work!

  • @johnkrieg9368
    @johnkrieg9368 4 роки тому +34

    It deserves a full season of Narcos..

  • @kostan1713
    @kostan1713 Рік тому +23

    Thank you for your video and the depth of research into the Opium War. A drug pushing country with modern technology can get their way. Qing dynasty was destined to fall, but her fall also usher in a century of humiliation for one of the world's greatest civilization. A true wake up call for China to speed up technological advancement.

    • @wengsoonyuen2086
      @wengsoonyuen2086 Рік тому +6

      And yet the CCP had forgotten the genesis of the Opium Wars, namely, a country cannot blindly pursue mercantilist policies without serious consequences. I opine that if the Qing emperor engaged in balanced trade then there were be no need for the British to sell opium to China in order to reduce the trade imbalance.

    • @YangShuLin
      @YangShuLin Рік тому

      ​@@wengsoonyuen2086 所以不买鸦片是中国人的错,引发战争也是中国人的错

    • @anatolymayburd5205
      @anatolymayburd5205 Рік тому

      Emperor Quinalong blindly rejected the exchange of tea for the British scientific and manufactured products. He saw no purpose in these items. Hence the backwardness. 50% of fault is on the Qing side.

    • @oscarchute6040
      @oscarchute6040 Рік тому

      @@wengsoonyuen2086 Under Deng Xiao Ping, the CCP opened China to the world. It is not a mercantilist policy.

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому

      It has.

  • @RR_DM
    @RR_DM 3 місяці тому +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for sharing~~~

  • @paulgrant7949
    @paulgrant7949 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting. It's amazing how the world was and is now!!

  • @prastagus3
    @prastagus3 2 роки тому +13

    This is War is where the Chinese saying "if progress is behind, then others will beat you up" (落后就会挨打) had originated from.
    This the biggest motivation and a continue source of nationalism in China from then to now.

    • @frankieseward8667
      @frankieseward8667 2 роки тому +1

      It also was the beginning of the end for the Qing.

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 2 роки тому +1

      @@frankieseward8667 not really the Qing dynasty was falling in it last years even before the british , cuz they were trying to hold to their old way and not catch up to modernization , look at japan for example , japan quickly became monster when they modernized and tried to catch up with new technology , but japan at that time relies that they couldnt do it with their small island and wanted new land thus invading their neighbors to imitate european imperialism in asia , IF it was china who relies that and did what japan had did , china in my opinion could have became much larger then british empire or even russian empire

    • @frankieseward8667
      @frankieseward8667 2 роки тому

      @@sakurakou2009 hopefully without the imperialism.

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 2 роки тому +1

      @@frankieseward8667 of course ancient chinese were as imperialistic as anyone else , they letterly called Empire , Qing where imperialistic as anyone of their time were , their was no nations and country borders back then , your borders is how far your army can extend , and this not bad thing , cuz securing land mean securing your people have enough food and wealth to keep them feed and well , main reason europeans did their conquests cuz europe was poor in natural resources and they were poor that why once they invaded the americas the whole of europe changed , if I was citizen of poor country and only was for my people yo survive is by invading someone else home I would do it , fuck them this is survival battle .
      BUT once two nations come to agreement and Sign peace and acknowledge each others BORDERS , then one who break the peace is at false cuz they agree on the terms.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      所以,只有根本不優秀的假nation才需要創造出「落後就要挨打」的神話 以示委屈。能噴得出「落後就要挨打」這麼混帳的言論 暴露了這群傢伙根本不介意落後 而只介意挨打的是自己 暴露了這群傢伙恰恰還極端認同落後就該挨打

  • @longfordboy2538
    @longfordboy2538 3 роки тому +6

    This is superb! Most of us no jack about China and it’s history Very. Very important stuff and well put together Many thanks

    • @saucywench9122
      @saucywench9122 3 роки тому

      Check out the channel serpentza for the most unbiased view of modern China.

    • @rosebud4387
      @rosebud4387 2 роки тому

      @@saucywench9122 You mean the most nasty biased vitriolic version of anti China bias is by Serpentza who was kicked out of China.

    • @ruideng5722
      @ruideng5722 7 місяців тому

      @@saucywench9122 Lol you joke person. Serpentza is a shameless anti chinese chancer. Unbiased my anus.

  • @johnnyk7480
    @johnnyk7480 2 роки тому

    Well presented. Please. More!

  • @cactitiger
    @cactitiger 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. Just found this channel

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed :)

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@History_of_China missing informations.

  • @ninja_whale
    @ninja_whale 4 роки тому +20

    Thanks for this wonderful video on a topic that's so indispensable for understanding modern China. Learned a lot and listing the sources is very helpful! I wonder how differently the Opium war is taught in different countries :P

    • @jagvillani338
      @jagvillani338 4 роки тому +12

      The historiography of the war changes greatly from Britain to China. In China, the defeat in the war is easily identified as the start of the century of humiliation, concessions forced in unequal treaties and the rapid decline of imperial authority. In Britain it was a Tuesday -- by which I mean, Britain was fighting someone, somewhere in the world in every year of Queen Victoria's reign so the war's importance is very much dilluted and diminished in the context of so many other colonial wars and episodes of gunboat diplomacy.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you enjoyed !

    • @user-it3rq9qs5n
      @user-it3rq9qs5n 2 роки тому

      They don’t teach this in the US schools, it’s shines a negative light on the west. European powers have been brutal to countries they invade. corporate greed has not changed.

    • @td370
      @td370 2 роки тому

      They don’t teach the about the Opium War in the UK, it is just seen as some other irrelevant War to us. We are mostly taught about domestic British history in school, really the only international British history we are taught is WW1 and WW2. The opium war isn’t that important to us the way it is to China.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 6 місяців тому

      ​@@td370 The First Opium War actually helped with the British economy.

  • @colincomber8027
    @colincomber8027 2 роки тому +12

    Of all the terrible things the British Empire did The Opium War ranks among the very worse. A.Brit.

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому

      Thank you.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 6 місяців тому

      No, because the British brought the idea of democracy and freedom to us. Secondly without the British, HongKong is just a fishing village.

  • @MisterTipp
    @MisterTipp 4 роки тому

    Nice video!

  • @bretoncircle
    @bretoncircle 2 роки тому

    Excellent program

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      With lots of missing informations.

  • @andrewfreiji4647
    @andrewfreiji4647 3 роки тому +6

    I just subscribed to your channel. I had no choice. Great content is often hard to come by

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for following!

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@History_of_China With missing informations.

  • @krisnawanwisnu5587
    @krisnawanwisnu5587 Рік тому +4

    The letter from Lin Zexu actually contained that he is not pretty sure that China has a war with British. And you guys should think one more about the role of Elliot. Read this book: "Creating the Opium war: British imperial attitudes towards China, 1792-1840" by Gao in 2020.

    • @cheesethatdoesntbelongtoyo7279
      @cheesethatdoesntbelongtoyo7279 10 місяців тому

      They weren’t going to stop that wanted what they wanted and were only waiting for reinforcements to arrive
      British play dirty and are devils

  • @DuluthHap
    @DuluthHap 6 місяців тому +2

    AWESOME

  • @Stich270
    @Stich270 Рік тому

    thx for giving your sources!

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      Opium was considered as an herbal medicine, but it was not widely used. Moreover, in the eyes of the British, opium is not a drug at all but a sleeping pill and entertainment items. Moreover, the concept of drugs was not established at the beginning of the 19th century.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      In 1729, Yongzheng ordered a ban on smoking, but what was banned was the mixture of tobacco and opium - what we commonly call "Madak", not the opium itself. Opium imports are still used as medicinal materials.

  • @dominiquecharriere1285
    @dominiquecharriere1285 3 роки тому +15

    The colonial powers may have started unfair wars once and again (the Boers war, Congo belge, France in half of Africa, Spain in Cuba and Santo Domingo, the USA in 1898 in Cuba, the Germans in Tanzania...), but there are no other shameless wars than the opium wars, it was and still is the worst we could have offered to the world. And so many landmarks in HK are still named after a drug kingpin is absolutely pathetic (Jardine's Lookout, Jardine's house, Jardine's crescent...). You imagine Escobar palace, Escobar Avenue or Escobar peak in Colombia?

  • @pitster1105
    @pitster1105 2 роки тому +5

    Id say one of the most humiliating provision of the the treaty of Nanking was the Qing government had to give amnesty to Chinese citizens who betrayed china and asisted the British during the conflict.

  • @o19g78e
    @o19g78e 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @theccpisaparasite8813
    @theccpisaparasite8813 3 роки тому +6

    Very informative, thanks.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      Then, let me give you more informations, Opium was considered as an herbal medicine, but it was not widely used. Moreover, in the eyes of the British, opium is not a drug at all but a sleeping pill and entertainment items. Moreover, the concept of drugs was not established at the beginning of the 19th century.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      after the Opium War, Lin Zexu also advocated planting native opium in China to reduce the dependence on foreign opium. (In this way, things like opium smuggling can be avoided, and Western opium can be prevented from entering the Chinese market from the source. While preventing the outflow of silver, it can not only increase national income, but also reduce the cost of opium smokers.) Therefore, the main reason for the launch of the Opium War was economic problems rather than drug problems.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      In 1729, Yongzheng ordered a ban on smoking, but what was banned was the mixture of tobacco and opium - what we commonly call "Madak", not the opium itself. Opium imports are still used as medicinal materials.

  • @Mochi-rm7zt
    @Mochi-rm7zt 3 роки тому +4

    Hi! I really like your documentary so I used it as one of my sources for a school project. In order to source this documentary I need the author or directors name, may I ask what it is? Thanks.
    Edit: source it as in, for my bibliography in MLA format

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +3

      Hi! I'm glad you enjoyed my work! Please contact me at history.of.china1@gmail.com, and I'll send you the details :)

  • @felixbeutin8105
    @felixbeutin8105 Рік тому +1

    fun fact during the battle of zhenjiang a young james fitzjames was wounded, he would later go missing in the canadian arctic as part of the franklin expedition

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad 3 місяці тому +1

    Great content, comment for the algor

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @SuperCool362jack
      @SuperCool362jack 2 місяці тому

      ​@@History_of_China Please have a look on this source, after have a reading on it, please tell me whether you will withdraw the video.
      Frank Dikötter, Lars Peter Laamann, and Xun Zhou, Narcotic Culture: A History of Drugs in China (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2004)

  • @sneakyone9865
    @sneakyone9865 Рік тому +5

    It’s crazy how we don’t learn this history in British schools.

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому +1

      Shameful actions.......

    • @ruideng5722
      @ruideng5722 7 місяців тому +1

      by design

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@cameronsam8641No, because the British brought the idea of democracy and freedom to us. Secondly without the British, HongKong is just a fishing village.

  • @yanliu4192
    @yanliu4192 3 роки тому +89

    The young Chinese are not brainwashed. History will never be forgotten in China.

    • @damonoid781
      @damonoid781 2 роки тому +34

      Yes not brainwashed by Winnie the Poo thought at all.

    • @niksatt4843
      @niksatt4843 Рік тому +7

      Love from the states and good luck over there.

    • @gapant69
      @gapant69 Рік тому +13

      @@damonoid781history is history. It will do u well not to forget what your countries did to Asia during colonial times. Telling asians to forget it is similar whitewashing by the west

    • @dylantyt6654
      @dylantyt6654 Рік тому

      That is part of the brainwashing- To hate the white man that brought you the modern world. When we are gone you will slip back into the dark ages.

    • @peacefullifetv5065
      @peacefullifetv5065 Рік тому +6

      No history should be forgotten ❤

  • @lmaozedong7007
    @lmaozedong7007 3 роки тому +1

    What a good documentary

  • @johnvonshepard9373
    @johnvonshepard9373 3 роки тому

    Nice.

  • @phased-arraych.9150
    @phased-arraych.9150 4 роки тому +32

    The Opium War was just one continuous curb stomp after another. The Qing navies with their wooden junks didn’t really stand a chance against Royal Navy iron stream ships and ships of the line.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  4 роки тому +12

      Just wait until we get to the Second Opium War against both Britain and France !

    • @canman5060
      @canman5060 3 роки тому +2

      @@History_of_China The second Opium War we see the ceding of Kowloon Peninsula to Britain uo the 'Boundary Street' where our family used to live.

    • @adamcheklat7387
      @adamcheklat7387 3 роки тому +2

      Curb stomp? The British completed clobbered them!

    • @ToastieBRRRN
      @ToastieBRRRN 3 роки тому

      @@History_of_China Don't forget the US helped too (unofficially of course).

    • @locksand45
      @locksand45 3 роки тому +1

      Trump would have pwnt Britain back then

  • @johnstauffer4362
    @johnstauffer4362 Рік тому +5

    I find this extremely hard to watch. We owe China, Japan owes China. No wonder we have such a hard time negotiating with them, what we did was unforgivable. I have become fascinated by Chinese history, its people are incredible.The opium trade was disgusting. Recently, I tried to watch a movie about the rape of Nanking - such an atrocity. I could only watch for a very short time so heartbreaking. The Chinese people have truly suffered. I hope they never forgive Japan for what they did. Neither should Korea.

    • @medialcanthus9681
      @medialcanthus9681 6 місяців тому

      I didn't know much of Chinese history and only heard the phrases rape of Nanking and opium wars. I too find this deeply distressing. I wish the Chinese people the best and admire their diligence in the face of sanctions on semiconductor chips by the USA and the smearing of China and the constant provocation by the west regarding the Taiwan issue.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      Your "victim" which is Qing also allow opium instead of opium tobacco, since both side allow opium trade to happen, then all that exists is a trade relationship, there's nothing illegal about it.

    • @medialcanthus9681
      @medialcanthus9681 5 місяців тому

      @@vapaus831 so the west agreed to do business with China on the terms of sharing technology, ( allowed to use cheap Chinese labour to manufacture and to sell in the China market etc, )why is it the west repeatedly say China stole their technology.

  • @MrCadet08
    @MrCadet08 7 місяців тому +2

    Speaking as an American, the British really really dont like it when you dump their product into a harbor

  • @Thomas-ju2jn
    @Thomas-ju2jn Рік тому

    This series is great, and very informative but much of the closed captioning language recognition program is distracting and embarrassing, a bit of editing would be priceless.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      So, did you also know that Yongzheng ordered a ban on smoking in 1729, but what was banned was the mixture of tobacco and opium - what we commonly call "Madak", not the opium itself. Opium imports are still used as medicinal materials.

  • @cmtwei9605
    @cmtwei9605 Рік тому +4

    18:43 According to wiki, the Convention of Chuenpi was not signed. It was not regarded as valid by both governments. Hong kong was therefore technically illegally occupied by the British without a proper treaty, until the Treaty of Nanking in August 1842. The name Pottinger would much more likely to be pronounced without a glottal stop, thus Pottin-ger rather than Potting-er two centuries ago. The 'Gough' in General Sir Hugh Gough is probably 'gof' similar to cough, not the hard German or Dutch 'gh' in van Gough. 😊

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому

      And why Pottinger Street still exists on Hong Kong Island in the middle of Hong Kong's financial district in Central.

    • @cmtwei9605
      @cmtwei9605 11 місяців тому

      @@cameronsam8641 Haha, I only by chance walked past Pottinger St. a couple of days ago. It's only a small street to remember the first governor of Hong Kong in 1843.

  • @carlhull8276
    @carlhull8276 6 місяців тому +3

    Moral of the story : Horde Weapons not Silver

  • @user-vz1wk1oi4s
    @user-vz1wk1oi4s 9 місяців тому +1

    This is bringing flashbacks from the poppy war series by R F kuang!!!!!!!!!!

  • @e.marianne1085
    @e.marianne1085 3 роки тому +2

    Love it!

  • @TL-fe9si
    @TL-fe9si 2 роки тому +10

    After watching this video, perhaps one would have a better understanding on why China has very strict laws against drug related crimes. Recently, it just sentenced a Canadian guy to death for smuggling around 220 kilograms of meth in China, the threshold for death sentence in leading a drug smuggling business is 50 grams...

    • @ex0duzz
      @ex0duzz Рік тому +1

      Even in the west, 220kg of meth would put you away for 20 years to life. Most Asian countries have harsh punishment, including death penalty for drugs.
      Just look at japan or even South Korea. Some sk celebrity admitted to smoking a joint while in USA or something and when they came back to SK, they were arrested and socislly outcast. Fired from their job and contracts, and iirc, also had to make a very public apology to the whole country. Even China doesn't go that far.
      Finally, meth is a very destructive drug and cannot be compared with weed, or even opiates which both have long, legitimate medical uses while meth is seen as a scourge by everyone, even its users and addicts.

    • @jboydayz
      @jboydayz Рік тому +3

      good

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому

      Exactly!! And why Hong Kong is a historical humiliation to China.

    • @miltonnoguchi4956
      @miltonnoguchi4956 7 місяців тому +1

      Singapore has a Similar Drug Law... you get Caught Smuggling in ANY KIND or AMOUNT of an ILLEGAL DRUG, and they HANG YOU (it's ZERO Tolerance) !!! Did it to a 22-year old Woman WITH a BABY... HANGED HER... shortly after her, THREE GUYS from the UK tried to Smuggle In Drugs, got Caught, and HANG'ed... (ouch)... !!!

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      In 1729, Yongzheng ordered a ban on smoking, but what was banned was the mixture of tobacco and opium - what we commonly call "Madak", not the opium itself. Opium imports are still used as medicinal materials.

  • @wolfu597
    @wolfu597 3 роки тому +33

    Interesting documentary on a war that started because of drugs.
    But I think that the biggest tragedy for the Qing dynasty was the refusal of it's imperial court officials to learn from the defeats they suffered in this war. This war proved to the world that China was militarily weak, and I think that played a major part in the reason why other European nations joined Britain in the second Opium war!

    • @ktttttt
      @ktttttt 3 роки тому +18

      Well does that pardon how the other European nations decided to group up and bully a weaker nation?

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 3 роки тому +9

      @@ktttttt No, it doesn't.
      But it shows how important it is to stand up to bullies.
      And keep one thing in mind: there is always someone bigger, better, and stronger than you.

    • @ktttttt
      @ktttttt 3 роки тому +4

      @@wolfu597 Err you mean like how China surpasses England in economy now? Personally I think it was a huge mistake for China to underestimate the west and for the west to underestimate China in turn. If the west hadn't underestimated China (and Asia actually) afterwards, Pearl Harbour wouldn't have been so easily bombed, China's economy won't be the second biggest right now (and probably the future biggest)

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 3 роки тому +8

      @@ktttttt Maybe, maybe not.
      But no one knows what the future holds in store for them.
      Right now, the West are being led by Left wing politicians who are more concerned about virtue signaling than their own people. But, as history has shown us, things change.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 3 роки тому +2

      @@wolfu597 Yeah, at least Japan could defend themselves.

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 9 місяців тому +1

    22:53 - music reminds me, I could quite enjoy a game of Empire Total War. 😂

  • @WillyEckaslike
    @WillyEckaslike Рік тому +2

    no mention of the Sassoon family (dues) and the complete domination of the trade

  • @jamespattythompson5977
    @jamespattythompson5977 Рік тому +5

    Who would have thought that the government of Britain would have sanctioned, and supported with its military, the effort of drug pushers? What country comes to another country and insists on trade through force. After such a defeat, China turned inward and worked hard to become a mighty country by learning from loss and humiliation and experiencing the unthinkable gall of the British nation. Thank you for the great video.

    • @MsLindamee
      @MsLindamee Рік тому

      Britain, and later America, have been the bully boys of the world. In school we are taught history that the government wants you to learn, it isn't until later in life you realise that you wasn't educated, you were indoctrinated. It really is an eye opening experience learning true historical facts.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 6 місяців тому

      Opium has been known and grown in China centuries before the Dutch or English trade. Opium was considered as an herbal medicine, but it was not widely used. Moreover, in the eyes of the British, opium is not a drug at all but a sleeping pill and entertainment items. Moreover, the concept of drugs was not established at the beginning of the 19th century. Lastly, after the Opium War, Lin Zexu also advocated planting native opium in China to reduce the dependence on foreign opium. So this is all about the the economy.

  • @johnroddy8756
    @johnroddy8756 2 роки тому +4

    Who ever was feeding the Emperor,with lies must have been well payed.

  • @TheBillaro
    @TheBillaro 6 місяців тому +1

    You cannot make a documentary on the opium wars without reading Frank Dikotter of SOAS et al.

  • @cw4608
    @cw4608 Рік тому +2

    The more I learn of history and politics, along with their clandestine and under-the
    -table goings on, the more I think that many countries governments are no better than drug lord’s and gun runners.

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому

      Exactly. No better that people today still can't understand the criminality of he past and see it from the victim's perspective. Sad and arrogant ignorance!! Look at the present day Republican party fighting to support a TREASONOUS TREACHEROUS UNFIT CRIMINAL ExPOTUS and sex abuser and LIAR running for "presidency". Arrogant ignorants!!

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      First, the definition of a drug lord is a criminal organization that controls the promotion and distribution of narcotic drugs. But what is happening is selling opium extract is legal in both UK and the Qing. So your statement is untenable.

  • @kenharris5390
    @kenharris5390 2 роки тому +8

    A reason why the vote in parliament failed was because most of the MP's had shares in the company.

  • @cheng3580
    @cheng3580 3 роки тому +3

    I thought Qi Shan was spared death and that his death sentence was just the Emperor doing it out of rage.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +5

      Absolutely. Although he was sentenced to death, he was not actually executed

  • @thedukeofswellington1827
    @thedukeofswellington1827 2 роки тому

    Im hearing this music and its driving me crazy because i KNOW ive heard it before...ETW! I wish theyd do an ETW 2 with different and more detailed campaigns

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  Рік тому

      Bingo! I used "The Fleet's Last Stand" from Empire Total War. The detailed music credits are in the description :)

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@History_of_China You are not lying, but not telling the whole truth.

  • @nathanpas6743
    @nathanpas6743 4 роки тому

    Grazie

  • @yoyofifi1827
    @yoyofifi1827 2 роки тому +79

    This just proof the great British was no more than great drug dealer and mercenary.

  • @Caligulashorse1453
    @Caligulashorse1453 2 роки тому +3

    Nice video it’s hard to find historical sources on China without basis.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      You need to search in Chinese.

    • @Caligulashorse1453
      @Caligulashorse1453 5 місяців тому

      @@vapaus831 that’s not the basis I’m talking about

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      @@Caligulashorse1453 So what basis are you talking about?

  • @locorum9103
    @locorum9103 4 роки тому +1

    17:12 is an amazing description

  • @ruideng5722
    @ruideng5722 7 місяців тому +2

    Imagine if this whole thing was the other way round....

  • @mattwherry9623
    @mattwherry9623 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic video!
    I never realised how much nuance there was to this part of history …
    It is fascinating to hear how much damage was caused by both accidental and deliberate miscommunication … and how hard decent people tried to prevent it …
    At school we were taught this period in black and white - here, you present it in glorious colour!
    Just brilliant. Well done!

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much! Nuance if fundemental to objectively explain history

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@History_of_China Not telling the whole truth.

  • @constantinekorkousky3363
    @constantinekorkousky3363 3 роки тому +7

    I would love your analysis of the Russo-Japanese war

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad 3 місяці тому +1

    The Chinese talked as if they had everything they needed, so they were shown they were in need of a way to protect themselves in a manner not relying on spears.

  • @giorgosmichael9142
    @giorgosmichael9142 2 роки тому

    Pls do a video on Bao Zheng

  • @rocketman1553
    @rocketman1553 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for your channel showing detailed account and excellent illustrations of the Opium war. My only comment is the title of this video should be changed from Anglo Chinese war to Invasion of British opium trade war with China. The former implies China had played active part to provoke and/or conquer the British territory resulting a war which in fact China had always been in a passive role and a huge victim of this humiliated historical event. Just as when a man rapes a woman by force, you wouldn't call the event The fight between the couple.

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому +1

      Your "victim" which is Qing also allow opium instead of opium tobacco, since both side allow opium trade to happen, there is nothing to sympathise with. In addition, is the Qing didn't respect the foreign culture first, because the Qing Dynasty regarded trade as a bestow to foreign countries. Moreover, the Qing Dynasty itself did not open trade to the outside world, so why should it deserve sympathy?

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      I disagree you describe the First "Opium" War as a man r*pes a woman by force, because the Qing Dynasty and the British were not couple, they were independent individuals fighting for their own interests. The only difference between them is that one is advanced and the other is backward, vice versa.

  • @AURORA6138
    @AURORA6138 4 роки тому +19

    One thing to take into consideration is that most of the numbers related to British casualties come from the British reports, which were also probably not that trustworthy. The majority of the British force constituted of Indian colonial troops and the "low casualty" figure seems to fit the colonial narrative of the "European exceptionalism" (like that of the colonization of the American continent, when we often read about the few hundred spaniards who conquered this and that empire, completely ignoring the hundreds of thousands of native allies they had). And were those Indian troops taken into consideration? That I cannot fully answer, but when we put into perspective, I truly think not. Nowadays, one can find British monuments for the fallen dogs of WW1, but not for the many Indian soldiers who died fighting for them. The same for the French and other major European powers whose military forces had a substantial contingent of African and Asian colonial soldiers. They rarely show(ed) up in statistics.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  4 роки тому +12

      That's what I initially thought, however it is true that excellent British strategy combined with far superior firepower allowed the British forces to rout the Qing armies easily, suffering only minor losses. In addition, the strict organisation of a modern army most likely wouldn't allow embellished reports to be produced as in previous century.
      It seems that most casualties of the war were Indian troops who suffered from dysentry contracted in China (over 500 deaths).
      We'll never know exact numbers for sure, but we can be certain that the British suffered very few casuatlies in the First Opium War.

    • @goatvision6908
      @goatvision6908 2 роки тому

      I wonder what that thing half way down Rajpath in Delhi is? The Chatri at Brighton. The memorial at Haifa. The Neuve Chapelle memorial in France. The memorial at Zehrensdorf, in Germany, The Pietta memorial. There are many more. Memorials in Australia often mention Indian troops. So too in Canada.
      To suggest that dogs are memorialised and not Indians is blatant propaganda. It is not true in the slightest. You are just making things up out of the blue.

    • @AAAAAA-tj1nq
      @AAAAAA-tj1nq Рік тому

      @@goatvision6908 they send indians to fight their wars. those indians are brainwashed hahaha

  • @artmakervideo
    @artmakervideo Рік тому +2

    I also upload the Opium war video as a Chinese!

  • @andisadler2897
    @andisadler2897 2 роки тому +2

    Would love to see a documentary about this Elliott bloke if at all one does indeed exist. Surely somewhere.

  • @danfarbecker2441
    @danfarbecker2441 2 роки тому +5

    You forgot to mention the other side of the trade equation. Canton trading would not open its markets to any foreign goods and would only sell its goods (primarily tea) in exchange for silver. Since the British were trading a non renewable resource (silver) for a renewable resource (tea) each transaction became increasingly expensive and had a price ripple impact on all commodities. This situation does not excuse the British from flooding the Chinese market with an addictive intoxicant. However, If the Chinese had opened their markets and not set up such a large trade imbalance things might have proceeded differently.

    • @HDsharp
      @HDsharp 2 роки тому +1

      Well, this is general corporate business practice, those who have the goods in demand can state the terms. No one forces anyone to trade with China.

    • @danfarbecker2441
      @danfarbecker2441 2 роки тому

      @@HDsharp Very true but an imbalance practice does force the hand of states. This is why big trade imbalances can be a big problem. Still, forcing a trade partner to exchange nonrenewable resource with a renewable resource only exasperates the situation.

    • @pedinomefaux
      @pedinomefaux 2 роки тому

      Nothing justifies brutish evil crimes. China is back and has promised never again become slaves.

    • @sharonccc6612
      @sharonccc6612 2 роки тому +2

      @eQuilibrium 2 excellent analogy. Moreover , note that China made it illegal to trade in opium before destroying them. So technically the British violated Chinese law and should not have any right to ask for compensation of the destroyed opium. They should count themselves lucky they need not pay any fine.

    • @cameronsam8641
      @cameronsam8641 11 місяців тому

      Yes. Tea for opium.......victim blaming? Silver for drugs......huh?

  • @JTGaffley
    @JTGaffley 3 роки тому +23

    Thank you for the video... quickly makes your realise that the world's anti-china regime is based on fear of self and insecurity. Firstly, the lack of understanding of the language leaves a lot of room to the Western commoner to construct all of his own fears within that space of his consciousness. The British East Incdia Cmpany, as too the Dutch East India Company comprised of a bunch of tiny, insecure men, who need to see power and destructio over and of other human beings in order to feel content.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому

      Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed :)

    • @s1050
      @s1050 3 роки тому +2

      Excellent point about the lack of understanding of China in the west. The knowledge of China in the west is abysmal and I think this boils down to not understanding the language or Confucian culture of China. I think the Chinese classics should be studied in western schools.

    • @hvuu1628
      @hvuu1628 2 роки тому +1

      @@s1050 nope. there is no misunderstanding. western powers especially the British was about global conquests. the east was naive and still so today.

    • @MrBlaxjax
      @MrBlaxjax 2 роки тому +2

      That's a complete load of horseshit. The east India company might have had an incompetent leadership at times, it was occasionally cruel. But its motive was trade. It used its power to achieve this objective. The idea that this company and its officials did all of this 'in order to feel content' is absurd. It was a huge company with its own army, navy, its own currency and it ran at least one entire country (India). The reason I am taking issue with your post is that the east India company inflicted a crushing defeat upon china, then negotiated its requirements with china. Sure, Hong Kong was taken, but apart from setting up a few local municipal governments in places like Shanghai, essentially, the British withdrew from china. 99.999 % of china was run by the Chinese, at least at the time of the first opium war. It wasn't a world war two type situation, with the Japanese endlessly in occupation, torturing and raping their way across the country. It was pretty much the exact opposite of that.

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 2 роки тому

      @@hvuu1628 trade, not conquest

  • @thabozzofficial
    @thabozzofficial Рік тому +2

    I just find it maddening; how the EITC were already causing havoc in India for years before this (Bengal Famine in 1770 and countless other things) and Britain makes out like they're a "Private Company" and don't represent the crown etc. Yet as soon as all this happens in China (a country that Britain also didn't own!) the military gets involved. Am I missing something or is that just REALLY screwed up and contradictory?

  • @jukio02
    @jukio02 Рік тому +1

    What happened to China in the past 200 years was bad, but there's some good that came out of it, it made them realize the needed to modernize and become strong once again.

  • @RareSeldas
    @RareSeldas 3 роки тому +5

    Wasn't Qishan was pardoned later and reinstated as an official in 1842?

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +2

      Absolutely. He was officially condemned to death in a spite of rage of Emperor Daoguang, but the sentence was not actually carried out in the end

    • @RareSeldas
      @RareSeldas 3 роки тому +5

      @@History_of_China okay, so your use of the phrase 'condemned to death' is accurate, but it could be misleading since usually when someone is officially condemned to death the sentence, as most people would assume, is carried out unless specified otherwise, and the consequence could be if people are mislead that they think the Qing court was less humane than they would otherwise assume
      but at least it's good you clarified in the UA-cam comments section
      not trying to nitpick, but I think this is important constructive criticism

  • @charleselliott9606
    @charleselliott9606 3 роки тому +6

    THIS GUY STOLE MY NAME

  • @fegstachops6746
    @fegstachops6746 4 роки тому +1

    Love the fine Chinese paintings of guys of their faces on dirt.

  • @Persian10Gan.
    @Persian10Gan. Рік тому +1

    Respect from Persia

  • @mdtalhaansari1096
    @mdtalhaansari1096 2 роки тому +3

    Mexican mafia: I can fight the police and the army with american weapons. I control whole cities.
    Honorable BEIC: Well done, sweet child, well done.

  • @waiz-men6956
    @waiz-men6956 3 роки тому +10

    Lesson learnt. Technology wins at the end of the day. British had cannons and guns. Chinese armies had swords and spears. It’s checkmate. What’s ironic is that the brits forces China to pay repatriation cost to cover the Brits military expenses. Now that’s a war rape! I guess now the modern China learns to invest heavily in technologies. Does anyone think one day China would colonise British as pay back and get them to pay a repatriation costs ? That would be interesting.

    • @animation1234111
      @animation1234111 3 роки тому +7

      The gap wasn't even that wide. It wasn't like colonial conquests in South Africa or the New World. The Chinese had cannons and guns. A century ago, they very well could have won. It just goes to show the immense impact even a relatively slight technological difference can have. That's the power of the Industrial Revolution.

    • @chrisgkms
      @chrisgkms 2 роки тому

      Unlikely. Brits have nukes. Perhaps through migration like reverse colonisation from India.

    • @rosebud4387
      @rosebud4387 2 роки тому +1

      The British also had very sneaky tactics and determination to get their hands on Chinese goods and wealth.

    • @macrick
      @macrick 2 роки тому +4

      @@animation1234111 Think you didn't read up the topic well. Most Qing soldiers were armed with muskets and cannons with lower range. While the British marines had bolt action rifles and cannons with higher range. Please read up abit before you comment. The technological gap is significant.

    • @animation1234111
      @animation1234111 2 роки тому +1

      @@macrick I never said it wasn't. OP contrasted Chinese "swords and spears" with British had "cannons and guns". I clarified the Chinese also had "cannons and guns", albeit more primitive ones. While the hap in technology was significant, it wasn't as significant as OP is saying. Misrepresenting people doesn't make you look more intelligent.

  • @mychipham378
    @mychipham378 2 місяці тому +1

    Next thing you know, the Boxer Rebellion erupts.

  • @robertferreiro3466
    @robertferreiro3466 2 роки тому

    Wow.. So the spin started a so long ago...

  • @adamcheklat7387
    @adamcheklat7387 3 роки тому +5

    Are you Chinese? Cause I noticed you pronounce Chinese names rather fluently.

    • @History_of_China
      @History_of_China  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks! I'm not Chinese though :)

    • @davidchang9228
      @davidchang9228 2 роки тому +1

      You seem like someone who is well-versed in the Chinese language and history (at least 19th century)... Footage of old photos, Chinese texts and some movie clips bring history to life. Superb channel!

    • @vapaus831
      @vapaus831 5 місяців тому

      ​@@davidchang9228 "Superb channel"? who is not telling the whole truth.