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  • Dan Patrick explains why he believes Indiana Fever's Caitlin Clark deserves the WNBA Rookie of the Year award over Chicago Sky's Angel Reese. Clark has the Fever in the playoff hunt with an 11-14 record on the season. #NBCSports #DanPatrickShow #wnba
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @NosyNorseman
    @NosyNorseman Місяць тому +28

    Angel vs Caitlyn has nothing to do about sports 🏀…unfortunately 🤷‍♂️

    • @CITYDAGR8
      @CITYDAGR8 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly… everyone and anyone is going to gravitate towards what looks like and represent them. No is denying one’s greatest. It’s just an age old debate. It’s that Magic/Micheal vs Bird syndrome. It’s them over the train tracks vs them over there. Like I said in comment its deeper then basketball. At the end of the day it’s two players good at their prospective positions.

    • @nathanbedfordforest
      @nathanbedfordforest Місяць тому

      ​@@CITYDAGR8and America is majority white.

  • @LesNessman2001
    @LesNessman2001 Місяць тому +11

    0:20 “I never watched WNBA before…”
    Yes, literally the most common phrase of 2024!
    But somehow, the WNBA “air ball” the Olympic team by not adding the reason for the season… says so, so much.

  • @dcaseng
    @dcaseng Місяць тому +2

    Angel Reese's biggest accomplishment is successfully fooling the public into thinking this was a real rivalry.
    She completely fabricated the whole controversy with the "can't see me" hand gesture in college. Clark's hand gesture had nothing to do with Reese or LSU, but Reese made it all about her, and everyone fell for it. Reese is incredibly jealous of Clark to this day, but she is nowhere near Clark in terms of skill. Reese's best attribute as a player is her hustle, and i'll give her credit for being a tough, hard nosed player, but her the rest of her game is mediocre at best.

  • @inertial6
    @inertial6 Місяць тому +22

    Comparing CC to Reese is like comparing Jordan to Rodman. Simply not comparable.

    • @rickyaburgos
      @rickyaburgos Місяць тому +9

      That’s a horrible comparison cuz CC is not Jordan

    • @jdotso23
      @jdotso23 Місяць тому +2

      @@rickyaburgos then like Nash/Curry/Trae Young type to Andre Drummond/Clint Capela type … there’s a big skills gap

    • @willawentertainment
      @willawentertainment Місяць тому +3

      @@jdotso23Nope. Not at all. Steph and Nash have never had poor stats in shooting, 3 pointers, turnovers and +|-.

    • @jdotso23
      @jdotso23 Місяць тому +4

      @@willawentertainment bro it’s a play style comparison, no one saying CC is at their level right now… but if we wanna go there, Nash avg 3.3 pts & 2.1 assists as a rookie & he didn’t avg more than 10+ pts/gm until his 5th szn - he was a below avg player until his 5th yr … and Steph’s rookie yr stats are pretty comparable to CC - 17.5, 5.9asst, 4.5 rebs … but again it’s a woman’s play style comparison she plays similar to them & Reese is similar to Drummond & Capela (not great offensive players, but dble dble machines)

  • @joypeaceandhappiness1501
    @joypeaceandhappiness1501 Місяць тому +1

    Where are the basketball fans who just want to enjoy the talent. There is history being made. A type of rivalry and history that hasn't been seen in 40 years. Enjoy the moment

  • @JayCeeL451
    @JayCeeL451 Місяць тому +15

    Dan is spot on. 🎯

    • @3drhodes
      @3drhodes Місяць тому +1

      He is spot on. Catlin turns the ball over way too much and Angel can give you a double double every game no brainier on who I would choose for rookie of the year 🤦

  • @OGJLyric
    @OGJLyric Місяць тому +15

    You really think he would go with the black woman over the white woman? Let’s be real
    Guys lol

    • @pabloorantes2362
      @pabloorantes2362 Місяць тому +2

      He's always been the same way. DP=WP

    • @LAvatorTV1
      @LAvatorTV1 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly

    • @jdotso23
      @jdotso23 Місяць тому +3

      @@OGJLyric and you wouldn’t go for the white girl over the black girl even tho the white girl is better 🤷🏽‍♂️ let’s be real guy lool goes both ways

    • @willawentertainment
      @willawentertainment Місяць тому +2

      @@jdotso23Hmm, Diana Taurasi was a beast throughout her career. Plenty of people would choose her in her hay over other players. That’s ridiculous. The media is promoting Clark when it’s Mitchell and sometimes Boston that’s carrying that team. Go check the +|- stats of their games.

    • @jdotso23
      @jdotso23 Місяць тому

      @@willawentertainment Mitchell?? Who avg only .3 pts/gm more than CC, yet avg ONLY 1.8 asts to CC’s 7.8 apg & CC almost 3X as many rebs … so someone who only contributes to scoring & NOTHING else is carrying someone who’s 1 of only 3 W players in top 20 in pts, assists, Rebs, blks, & stls …. Btw how many wide open shots & easier looks does Mitchell get bc of the attention CC draws?? … Boston I’ll give you her- she’s carried them in some games bc she can score, gets rebs, play defense, etc but again she also gets easier looks bc of CC’s passing & the attention CC gets

  • @BillCheshire_Jr
    @BillCheshire_Jr Місяць тому +1

    Dan has some good points. I am biased. Im daily, or every other day looking for new Caitlin Clark highlights. I didnt know anything about her 2 years ago. Not even a year ago. She is like an Ervin Johnson, in that she has charisma. Charisma isnt taught. It's a God-given gift. 😊😊😊

    • @immageeable
      @immageeable Місяць тому +1

      Because you are clearly a media follower lol the veterans outplayed Clark in the All-Star game

    • @BillCheshire_Jr
      @BillCheshire_Jr Місяць тому

      @@immageeable That's OK 👍 In her 4th year, it will be amazing what adjustments she has made. I think she will be a great one. Even Sabrina is headed into greatness. 🤗

  • @tonyhill5235
    @tonyhill5235 Місяць тому +4

    Not the same ppl. Angel ot even good. Cc great.

  • @hadtrt3456
    @hadtrt3456 Місяць тому +5

    I’m sickened by this ad nauseum comparison between these two potentially great athletes. They don’t even play the same position. I’ve got to avoid these videos going forward

  • @ItalianStallion9790
    @ItalianStallion9790 Місяць тому +23

    If Angel was white and Clark was black every person in the media would had Clark as the Rookie of the year.

    • @Tri.dawg1
      @Tri.dawg1 Місяць тому +1

      You told no lies 💯💯✍🏼🗣️🙄it’s sick just by yo skin tone

    • @sidj6745
      @sidj6745 Місяць тому +3

      C'mon Reese is no where near as good as Clark and I didn't always feel this way. Reese is a tall clumsy, sluggish body. Take away her height, there is nothing left. CC has a long way to go to bc great but the potential is there. I don't see Reese ever reaching greatness. Oh yeah, by the way, I'm black.

    • @3drhodes
      @3drhodes Місяць тому +1

      You people are crazy 🤪. Would you take a player that can give you a double double every game (scoring and rebounds) or a passer that turns the ball over a lot.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Місяць тому

      @@3drhodes bro SERIOUSLY. This has NOTHING to do with Race. IM sick of that. Reese is an incredible shooter, makes like 10 threes a game with one eye closed. Her handles are like Kyrie …NO exaggeration! Her step back fadeaway better than Jordan no capppp. Her rebounding is rodman level on crack. I’m taking the Goat Reese over Candace Parker , Aja wilson , prime Taurasi idc. Just cause I’m melanated has NUTTIN to do with it. REESE IS THE GOAT OF ALL TIME GOATS PERIOD👊

  • @jaythomas3224
    @jaythomas3224 Місяць тому +1

    It comez down to whos stats are NOT HURTING the team

  • @DanielleFroats
    @DanielleFroats Місяць тому

    Nailed it!!! Thank you for laying it out so well.

  • @Calidastas
    @Calidastas Місяць тому +6

    Geno Auriemma’s interview not aging well lol

    • @JayCeeL451
      @JayCeeL451 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, she's not built for the WNBA. 😆He's still salty on CC because he didn't recruit her and she beat UConn in the final 4.

    • @tonyhill5235
      @tonyhill5235 Місяць тому

      His foc
      X interview was real. 4 geno got marching orders and put that trash out on Patricks show

    • @Rose_117
      @Rose_117 Місяць тому

      @@JayCeeL451 The reason why he didn’t recruit Caitlin Clark is because it would be silly for him to recruit another good point guard when he had already recruited Paige Bueckers

    • @JayCeeL451
      @JayCeeL451 Місяць тому +2

      @@Rose_117 i know he already had Paige but that doesn't make what I stated any less true.

  • @immageeable
    @immageeable Місяць тому

    Lol😂 a bunch of media followers on a bandwagon! This first caller raves about CC, yet she was a flop in the Allstar game, and the veterans outplayed her! These women who have been in the league for years had 20+ points! If Clark was so great, it was her time to show that, and she did not. Good ball handler, but besides three-pointers she adds nothing else. Because she was heavily guarded by veterans she was not able to shoot well. PERIOD

  • @usmcmsgt5487
    @usmcmsgt5487 Місяць тому +5

    If you're white, you root for Clark to win ROY...if you're black, you vote for Reese for ROY. If you know basketball, you know Clark does more for her team than Reese. She should get double doubles, being as tall as she is and hangs out under the basket.....thats like Shaq get double doubles...its expected...... compared to Clark who on most days is shorter than her defender. Has the ball and controling tempo, dishing assists, and rebounding....she is just more consistent. And does more for her team.... and teams defend Clark with schemes....no one is scheming for Reese. They guard her at half court, I've seen NO TEAM defend Reese at half court.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Місяць тому

      Wrong. I’m purple. And Reese is the greatest passer, shooter, finisher in the game. She could average 90% fg and 70% three pointers if she really wanted. Reese is the Goat and there’s no competition. She’s better than candace Parker and aka wilson EASILY.

    • @KingTay74
      @KingTay74 Місяць тому

      what actually is cc doing besides having more turnovers than anyone on the wnba history and her stats leads to losing

  • @henryslatt9041
    @henryslatt9041 Місяць тому +10

    The fever suck. Clark leads the league in turnovers by 50. She turns the ball over more than any player in the history of women’s basketball. She’s actually a terrible passer.

    • @mikewayne6608
      @mikewayne6608 Місяць тому +1

      Terrible passer? Don't forget TV ratings and selling out arenas.

    • @henryslatt9041
      @henryslatt9041 Місяць тому +4

      @@mikewayne6608 what does that have to do with passing the ball?

    • @mikewayne6608
      @mikewayne6608 Місяць тому +1

      @@henryslatt9041Thanks for sharing. Your comments are well thought out and honest.

    • @pyap9779
      @pyap9779 Місяць тому +1

      Well, the total point she generated for the team and fever winning more recently games seem to show her TO is not as big a deal and is a byproduct of her aggressive style of playing.

    • @willawentertainment
      @willawentertainment Місяць тому +1

      @@pyap9779It’s a huge deal! She’s a PG! The excuses. There has never been a PG in the league average that many turnovers. Kelsey Mitchell has strapped that team to her back and has been carrying them.

  • @3drhodes
    @3drhodes Місяць тому

    It’s like taking Jhon Stockton over Michael Jordan 🤦 or Steph curry over LeBron James 🤦

    • @5emio
      @5emio Місяць тому

      Are you comparing Angel Reese to MJ and LeBron?! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrBriancall1
    @MrBriancall1 Місяць тому +2

    Caitlan Clark is a very good player who made her reputation as a College player, but look at the record holder of the player who she beat (Kelsey Plum) Caitlan Clark has a long way to go before she is as good as Kelsey Plum.

  • @tspecht610
    @tspecht610 Місяць тому +1

    19 assists just proves she is miles ahead of Reese. Reese and the wnba cheated more than once to keep her double double streak going to get that record. Reese can't even make layups consistently. What a joke. Clark was full court pressed double and triple covered all night and put up 24 points 19 assists at least 5 boards and a couple steals.

  • @Tri.dawg1
    @Tri.dawg1 Місяць тому

    Comparing Angel Reese to CC is like comparing Shaq to Steve Nas not the same Angel Reese got this 🗣️

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Місяць тому

      Reese winning mvp. Let’s be real. Her step back fadeaway 360 tomahawk reverse layup package is crayyy. Reese mvp stop faking y’all

  • @j-short5431
    @j-short5431 Місяць тому +1

    Angel has a better PER and plus minus. All of a sudden people are pretending like they don’t like analytics.

  • @santiagorodriguez5311
    @santiagorodriguez5311 8 днів тому

    No basketball skills at all can pass can dribble can jump no outside shot at all a disgrace to the game

  • @TrayC94
    @TrayC94 Місяць тому

    You absolutely Nailed it!

  • @LesNessman2001
    @LesNessman2001 Місяць тому

    NaLyssa Smith was also really fun to watch!
    How can I say that, cause I tuned in cause of CC.
    I’ll support any non-hater, plain and simple.

  • @deeel5692
    @deeel5692 Місяць тому +11

    Caitlin Clark. Turnover Leader.

    • @Calidastas
      @Calidastas Місяць тому +7

      Walmart quality troll.

    • @mikewayne6608
      @mikewayne6608 Місяць тому

      Caitlin is leading in that category. However, she's the reason for TV ratings and arena attendance numbers.

    • @pyap9779
      @pyap9779 Місяць тому +4

      At the same time, total points and Assist leader.

    • @deeel5692
      @deeel5692 Місяць тому +2

      @@pyap9779 A'ja Wilson is points leader. Stop making people hate Caitlin Clark with your lying. Angel Reese deserves to be ROY.

    • @jaythomas3224
      @jaythomas3224 Місяць тому

      Where? Her team? ​@@pyap9779

  • @AllthingsHelenG.
    @AllthingsHelenG. Місяць тому

    Angel Reese is better than Caitlin. Hands down!

  • @og-reacts5824
    @og-reacts5824 Місяць тому +1

    Alot of excuses

  • @christopher8136
    @christopher8136 Місяць тому

    Whos this rese player?

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Місяць тому +2

      She sells Reese’s Pieces

  • @Derrell404
    @Derrell404 Місяць тому

    CC spot on play like Bird

  • @BernardHenryMusic
    @BernardHenryMusic Місяць тому +4

    She has great vision but she's not a great passer. You can't be a great passer with 194 assist and 139 turnovers.
    It's her teammates blah blah blah. Funny how her teammates weren't setting turnover records when she wasn't on the team. So they can catch the pass when a less skilled passer is passing the ball just not when she passes it?
    She also led the NCAA in turnovers during her 4 year tenure in college.
    It's the usage rate, it's because she's a guard, well LeBron has the most turnovers it's everything but accountability.
    That's ok, nobody is perfect.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Місяць тому

      You might be the smartest , most intelligent UA-cam comment analyst I’ve ever seen. Your insight. Accuracy. Fabulous dissection of the game …amazing. I believe they should pay you as an nba executive in fact. They’re really screwing up with the Clark girl you can set them straight. You’re not a moron at all. Please call the fever office TODAY!!

    • @BernardHenryMusic
      @BernardHenryMusic Місяць тому

      @@jaylucas8352 They don't pay enough

  • @LesNessman2001
    @LesNessman2001 Місяць тому

    3:22 ROTY… ha ha ha… if WNBA fumble that… mannn… it’s over.
    New mgmt immediately!

  • @rmad4462
    @rmad4462 Місяць тому

    Everybody wants to see Caitlin play. She's a lean machine--nimble, accurate & exciting to watch. It's petty to make it racial.

  • @stevesanders7614
    @stevesanders7614 Місяць тому

    BS.

  • @Querencias7
    @Querencias7 Місяць тому +1

    Indeed, this reeeeeally is SILLY. Right on, Dan Patrick. Absolutely.
    CC = The Caitlin Clark Effect. 2024 Serious Super Sensation (league wide). H U G E fan magnet and gigantic viewership generator. And that, BTW, in addition to her basketball skills and talent. Hands down, 2024 ROY.
    Reese = Fake Eyelashes of the year (as well as the scrunched up / rolled up shorts award). Also best candidate for the ME3 Award: "Me! Me! Me! Look at me, everyone, please. I need the attentionnnn." 😣

  • @rooseveltheath
    @rooseveltheath Місяць тому +1

    Clark is having a solid season so far and she's getting good stats with everything her team does..key word.. team not one person.. honestly she has a better skill set then Reese who only rebounds and does the easy shots and only makes them half the time.. Reese is ok but I wouldn't say she's way better than Clark.. winning games and getting stats.. well..I won't say any more

    • @immageeable
      @immageeable Місяць тому

      How many of those shots can you make? Lol but you are talking.

    • @rooseveltheath
      @rooseveltheath Місяць тому

      winning games is more important than individual stats

  • @royjones8312
    @royjones8312 Місяць тому

    She plays like a man, that’s the difference. She’s awesome. Also Melo should have won ROY. In my opinion.

  • @CITYDAGR8
    @CITYDAGR8 Місяць тому +4

    So when they stop her and they don’t win does she deserve it? Someone game plan doesn’t determine your status. It just shows you’ve been exposed. Stats and game play determines everything. Y’all drinking that hype koolAide. Y’all act like yall never seen a good Caucasian or pale woman play basketball. It’s deeper then the sport

    • @jdotso23
      @jdotso23 Місяць тому +1

      And yall act like getting rebounds is now the holy grail of bball… never seen someone w/ 0 offensive skills be hyped so much bc she can get rebs … acting like yall haven’t seen a black woman play

    • @justinjohnson6386
      @justinjohnson6386 Місяць тому +1

      Facts. He spoke about everything but the stats…because The stats say it’s a close race.

    • @jdotso23
      @jdotso23 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@justinjohnson6386what stats? AR leads in rebs that’s it … CC leads in everything else, she is 1 of only 3 players in the Top 20 in pts, assists, Rebs, blks and stls… and she leads the whole W in total pts created … what stats say it’s close??

    • @CITYDAGR8
      @CITYDAGR8 Місяць тому

      @@jdotso23 I can say yall because im not invested in either one and can care less. But I see yall fans triggered 😂😂😂

    • @dizzledizzle2572
      @dizzledizzle2572 Місяць тому

      @@jdotso23lead the league in rebounds as a rookie is nothing to sneeze at. If I’m not mistaken I believe she’s in the top 10, if not top 5, in the league for steals per game as a rookie. Angel is a dawg out there.

  • @willawentertainment
    @willawentertainment Місяць тому +2

    The thing that I don’t like about the media concerning Clark is the overpraise. The last game they won because of Mitchell and Boston, but the media highlighted Clark making a 3 even though she was 2-11 and was 5-17 overall with 6 TO. That’s delusional. That’s what Geno was talking about. The media is in on the delusion. That’s the type of crap that’s ridiculous. Just be honest!
    Mitchell has strapped that team to her back. That’s why they’ve improved but she doesn’t get any credit.
    And what Angel did with the 15 straight double was incredible. If she’s not in the conversation for ROTY, it’s purely because of bias because she’s gotten better as the season has gone on. She and Clark each have a Rookie of The Month.

    • @ZenDCIII
      @ZenDCIII Місяць тому

      If Kelsey Mitchell is the real reason for Fever improvement what do you believe has been the reason for Fever struggling in the past years? The Indiana Fever hasn't been to the playoffs since 2016. Kelsey Mitchell was drafted to the Fever in 2018.

    • @ninad6787
      @ninad6787 Місяць тому +1

      @@ZenDCIII Coaching and the Fever's front office have been notoriously horrible. Do yourself a favor go and compare the 2023 team and individual player stats to this year. This is pretty much the same team except for Caitlin. In 2023 the Fever averaged 81 ppg, now they average 81.3. Fever opponents are averaging more points this year 86.7 vs. last year's 85.1. Kelsey, Nalyssa and Aliyah had better stats last year. Last year's point guard averaged 6.8 assists with 2.8 turnovers while Caitlin is averaging 7.4 ast with 5.9 to's. Last year Christy Sides was a first year head coach.
      The Caitlin hype simply isn't real. She's a good player, but she's definitely not the next Steph Curry. Her +/- is far lower than Angel's for a reason. She's not as valuable to her team as Angel is. Angel is the ROY!

  • @nuniorj.baptite624
    @nuniorj.baptite624 Місяць тому +1

    Since the ROY is a something a few people give go ahead give it yo ya'll fabricated goat. Angel Reese win in the court like he beat her in that college championship ya'll still made about. It's no like Caitlin Clark can win anything on her own. So go ahead give it to her Dan Patrick you old we all know what. That doesn't make her a champion, ya'll still going to be mad about that college lost at the hands of Angel Reese

  • @chitownbro2248
    @chitownbro2248 Місяць тому

    Angel Reese gets a double-double because she misses her short shot and gets her own rebound like Moses Malone used to do. But if you just look at the Stat sheet you believe she's having a dominate game. Maybe you bring in racist Jemele Hill and talk about how Stats Don't Lie. Didn't that show get canceled??

    • @j-short5431
      @j-short5431 Місяць тому +1

      That lie has already been disproven. Repeating it doesn’t make it true.

    • @chitownbro2248
      @chitownbro2248 Місяць тому

      @@j-short5431
      You talk about the Truth? As Jack Nicholson said about the Truth, "You can handle the Truth," you Buster!

  • @user-cn2dh5rc3h
    @user-cn2dh5rc3h Місяць тому

    Williams😂 should be FMVP not Reese😩 just like Curry🤗not Iguodala😖