@@nashooo5903 Being good means being *quick* at it. My husband can do math like me, but he does it instantly. I gotta break out paper, pencil, and an abacus 😂 Haha God bless ✌️
@@kawaiimombear being good at math means being good at math. Being quick at math means being quick at math. IDK why you want to mix both. Also the latter is not really an useful skill, most of the time you'll still be slower and less accurate than someone with a calculator. And everyone carries a calculator lol.
@@nashooo5903 In my peak of math speed I was faster than people with calculators on + - * ad /. And back then people used calculators. If they had to firstly take their phones and start app it would be even easier. On the other hand it lasted while it lasted, now I'm not a teenager with that flexible mind anymore. Still being fast is good as I can skip putting some calculations in Excel or calculator as I do then in my mind. So I am faster still and it's good to be fast. Problem with being good at math is that like 99% of advanced mathematics you just need to learn methods and algorithms by heart and just practice them and combine them, it has almost nothing to do with basic algebra.
Classic manager move: not admitting to their mistakes or bullshit, but instead just doubling down and gaslighting employees by yapping about "prestige".
Yup. A manager tried that on me. A “salary” and a “title” promotion - would have been less $. I declined and stayed hourly. Made more money that way as they still need me to work the longer hours. Worked for me.
Manager tried something similar on me: I was on salary and they insisted me to go on contract. But on contract I would (after paying all extra costs) receive hourly like 5% more, be stripped of most of my retirement contribution and had unsymetrical notice period: I would have to give it 6 months prior and then could give me one month. 6 Months would render me almost impossible to get a better job. I would have to resign and then search in blind. What was strange is that manager really didn't understand my point of view.
Once got a £20 a month raise. That’s less than £1 pound a day. When I told my boss I was disappointed in the raise, she said “money wasn’t everything.” It’s amazing how managers can sell you crap and expect you to be grateful. Wish I had this kind of sass when I worked there. Veronica is awesome.
Reminder, you don't need to be blue collar to unionize. Don't let them tell you office workers can't be unionized. Even salaried employees can unionize.
@@davidhingst7063 Unions are great because they stand up for you so you don't have to stand up for yourself every dang day. Managers won't even try this stuff if they know you're in a union because Unions usually have legal representation at no cost to members. Wouldn't you rather just do your job in peace and never have to deal with any of this bs?
The problem is that we can’t just conjure a union out of thin air. I’ve been trying to figure out how to make a union in my state and no one even wants to discuss it with me.
The prestige thing is funny. There used to be. Because it meant you were actually full time. Like, for boomers, meant you'd probably work there til you were dead. Pension. Vacation. Now all of that has been stripped over the last 40 years.
This goes right along with "We're giving you a title increase. We thought that you've taken on some more responsibilities in your role, so we've upgraded your title. No, that's it, just the title."
The correct amount for them to pay her for the position change to salaried is $122,500 or more. The reason for than number is that if she were to keep her current pay rate at hourly while working 60 hours a week, then she would also be getting 20 hours of overtime at time and a half. If you multiply her hourly rate by 40 plus the time and a half for the 20 hours for 52 weeks, then you get the number I gave above. Anything more than than would be a genuine increase.
@anandsharma7430 Yall misunderstanding the motive. It's not about rewarding her hard work or some other nonsense. It's about getting costs down. Now that she's refused they'll begin pressuring her to go salary and failing that they'll find a way to get rid of her
@@FantomMisfit from the employer's perspective that makes sense but you're effectively taking a pay cut to become salaried. My argument is that from the workers perspective it's not worth it to become salaried if you take a pay cut and work more hours. It's only worth it if you are still making that same amount you would have made of you worked all those hours as an hourly worker.
@@FantomMisfit oh I understand now. I thought you were saying she should take the "promotion" because if she didn't they'll be more likely to fire her.
When employers don't understand that the only reason people work, is money. Nobody really cares about status, unless it comes with at least twice the hourly pay. I can also guarantee that nobody cares about pizza parties or special work events. We'd all rather just have that money put into our paychecks. Lol
This is a new one I wasn't aware of. Disguising a new disadvantageous contract as a "raise" because technically it is a PAY raise, it's just that the work hours are raised significantly more. Wtf.
Overall, you are getting more money yearly, it’s just that the trade off is you’re working more hours, which takes time away from other things in your life, like for example, others what you could be making even more money
Salary is a funny thing. I say that because some people get bump to Salary pay and suddenly have the amazing freedom of not having to work weekends, overtime, can take off regardless of what time a day it is so long as THEIR work is "done" and even have magical unlimited vacation/PTO time. Meanwhile other people get bumped up to Salary and suddenly it's the Old Schoo, "You get paid more money because you work longer hours", Suddenly you are the first and last person in the building, anything that needs covering regardless of how big or small it is you have to cover, and so on and so on, etc, etc! I don't know I just find it funny how Salary works totally different for some people.
Our top department manager recently mentioned how being salaried is not all it’s cracked up to be. It was so hard not to point out that she chose it. A few years ago, two young managers were complaining about the 60 hr schedules. I told them they needed to keep quiet around the rest of us, because at least they knew how much they were taking home every week. The rest of us had just been cut back and given inconsistent hours for the holidays.
They promote people mostly based on their abilities to be gaslit or to commit gaslighting. Hence why most managers act genuinely shocked when some employees call them out on gaslighting. TLDR; corporations are nests of the psychologically dangerous.
I keep seeing reuploads of these Veronica skits with different animations but I don't ever see any credit to the original person who made these. I don't even KNOW who originally made these. It's all a jumble of reuploads at this point
You really think people want to take pay cuts with added work? I don't care what "title" I gain; I want the pay I would be owed. I can't pay bills with a title, lol.
I once had a coworker that was forcibly transferred to a field office for three months every year. The transfer came with a title change and a high salary (changed from a mediocre wage). This annual three month stint also coincided with the busy harvest period when 12+ hours per day, 7 days a week, were typical. After the harvest was complete and there was no need for such long work days, he would be transferred back to the home facility and resume a lesser title with the crappy wage.
I have a question. If she is salaried, won't she be getting better employee benefits that she doesn't have as an hourly worker? Didn't factor that in to the compensation package. The lack of benefits is why hourly workers have 'higher' hourly rates. But I agree that a promotion may not be worth it if you have to work a hell of a lot more hours.
This is the kind of crap Walmart pulls. Makes all these people managers and they work 60 to 80 hours when figured out is below minimum wage to be on a salary. Plus gives them power over all the people that make hourly never get over 40 hours. They call you an "Associate", but you're nothing more than a worker bee.
Actually the analysis should be the 15000 bump or 288 a week extra divided by the additional 20 hours required or 14.42 per hour. U could make more at mcdonalds as a side gig. Hate this when this happens and they think they are doing us a favor!!
This kinda shit is why I'm happy as a salaried Chemist. Boss can't even dream of holding me longer, my shit's too efficient. Not the craziest pay, but I make it work
On the flip side, what people dont realize is that you are making more money. Sure, less per hour, but more total. Good luck finding a part-time job that is going to pay you $33/hr so that you are really making more per hour. If I went put and found a part time 20 hour oer week job, I would actually be losing money vs. working 60 hours at my current job.
I heard that there are some perks of being salaried. But they seem dubious at best and I really like not having my work phone on when I am not working so, I shall stay an hourly employee thank you very much.
Veronia should have said yeah I will take the salary job because they cannot force her to work more than 40 hours simply because of salary. Take the job, work your 40 hours and go home and when they complain, see other veronica stories.
The reason they do that is because those "over time" hours are just seasonal I left a company that want leads and supervisors to stay over every freaking day for 30 more mins (mind you we were working 12 hrs already) and we never got paid those extra 30 mins
I hope you get a real pay bump so you can get some acoustics foam or maybe a massive tapestry hung up. You work hard on these animations - you should sound like you recorded in a studio. Even though studio time is $$$ you can fake it by muffling the walls with stuff.
I can't tell you how many times I've gotten a raise, and the rebalance on taxes kept me at the same net pay, capitalism doesn't want its working class to have money.
Are you in the US? Because the tax system here does not work like that. If you break into a higher tax bracket, only the increase in pay gets taxed at the higher rate so you’re still making more money after taxes.
@@ourtube4266 I am. maybe not the exact checks before the raise, the $/hr rate of my net pay on the first check after was barely any higher than when I checked at some point before the raise. There's some chance it was a case of tax bracket changes, but it still felt miserable.
@@byronsmothers8064 then you’re probably getting more taken out in taxes than you should be and you’ll be getting a much better tax refund for the year. If you’re still really concerned, you can plug your old pay into an online tax calculator and compare it to your new pay to see what your actual net difference is.
The hourly rate probably won't increase much even with a fairly heft raise. The average US worker works something like 1,800 hours a year so a $1,800 pay rise will increase the average worker's hourly rate by $1, pre tax. Maybe that's what's happened Though I agree being a worker sucks :') It's not *just* because of taxes though
Learn math and statistics people. It's also rarely ever about what they're saying, pay attention to what they're not telling you. Once you know that, it's very easy to see how people lie with numbers.
I hate that they say the average is 60ish hours a week. Ok, then 20 hrs of OT pay? I don't do work for free. Compensate me for my time or I work the 40 hrs a week as a full time employee.
AKSHUALLY the math is a bit off because veronica didn't consider overtime. 60 hours worked per week, because those 20 hours of overtime, assuming the typical "time and a half" arrangement in US, would have pay equivalent to 70 hours per week, or warranting 75% increase from 40. 70K*1.75=122.5K; that would be the salary that does not constitute hourly rate decrease.
A manager's worst nightmare: One that knows math very well and wiser than them.
I don't think u ever held a job b4
You think that making a division counts as being good at math? 😢
@@nashooo5903 Being good means being *quick* at it. My husband can do math like me, but he does it instantly.
I gotta break out paper, pencil, and an abacus 😂
Haha God bless ✌️
@@kawaiimombear being good at math means being good at math. Being quick at math means being quick at math. IDK why you want to mix both.
Also the latter is not really an useful skill, most of the time you'll still be slower and less accurate than someone with a calculator. And everyone carries a calculator lol.
@@nashooo5903 In my peak of math speed I was faster than people with calculators on + - * ad /. And back then people used calculators. If they had to firstly take their phones and start app it would be even easier. On the other hand it lasted while it lasted, now I'm not a teenager with that flexible mind anymore.
Still being fast is good as I can skip putting some calculations in Excel or calculator as I do then in my mind. So I am faster still and it's good to be fast.
Problem with being good at math is that like 99% of advanced mathematics you just need to learn methods and algorithms by heart and just practice them and combine them, it has almost nothing to do with basic algebra.
Classic manager move: not admitting to their mistakes or bullshit, but instead just doubling down and gaslighting employees by yapping about "prestige".
"Prestige" doesn't pay the bills.
@@scottburton509 Was thinking the exact same thing, and probably would've been what I would reply to a manager in such a case.
"But you'll get exposure!"
"People die from exposure."
There is no mistake. Companies make more profit from you getting paid less, so or course they're going to pay you the minimum they can.
They didnt make a mistake. They know what they're doing.
Bosses try to bank on your ego.
Prestige doesnt pay my bills, money does.
"prestige" has the same energy as wanting a freelancer to work "for exposure"
"Veronica, I'm confused..."
'Yah, no sh*t; you didn't expect me to be able to do math!'
exacly. You have no idea how they think a blue collar employee is an uneducated dumbo who can't think on the fly and do the math.
The manager is convinced because she's salary. She doesn't want to admit she made the mistake
“I’m confused…”
The only correct response to that is “You’re not confused at all. You know exactly what’s going on here.”
Yup. A manager tried that on me. A “salary” and a “title” promotion - would have been less $. I declined and stayed hourly. Made more money that way as they still need me to work the longer hours. Worked for me.
Manager tried something similar on me: I was on salary and they insisted me to go on contract. But on contract I would (after paying all extra costs) receive hourly like 5% more, be stripped of most of my retirement contribution and had unsymetrical notice period: I would have to give it 6 months prior and then could give me one month. 6 Months would render me almost impossible to get a better job. I would have to resign and then search in blind.
What was strange is that manager really didn't understand my point of view.
Lol i used the math trick on my last boss. The look on a bosses face when you break down the math and compare percentages.
Once got a £20 a month raise. That’s less than £1 pound a day. When I told my boss I was disappointed in the raise, she said “money wasn’t everything.”
It’s amazing how managers can sell you crap and expect you to be grateful.
Wish I had this kind of sass when I worked there. Veronica is awesome.
Ask them if they're getting bonuses and then remind them that "money isn't everything".
Should've asked them "If money isn't everything what is the rest of it?"
Reminder, you don't need to be blue collar to unionize. Don't let them tell you office workers can't be unionized. Even salaried employees can unionize.
You don’t need a union to stand up for yourself like in this video.
@@davidhingst7063 Unions are great because they stand up for you so you don't have to stand up for yourself every dang day. Managers won't even try this stuff if they know you're in a union because Unions usually have legal representation at no cost to members. Wouldn't you rather just do your job in peace and never have to deal with any of this bs?
The problem is that we can’t just conjure a union out of thin air. I’ve been trying to figure out how to make a union in my state and no one even wants to discuss it with me.
The prestige thing is funny.
There used to be. Because it meant you were actually full time. Like, for boomers, meant you'd probably work there til you were dead. Pension. Vacation.
Now all of that has been stripped over the last 40 years.
RIP defined benefit.
I'm going to pay SPECIAL attention to my next advancement becuase of this!
This goes right along with "We're giving you a title increase. We thought that you've taken on some more responsibilities in your role, so we've upgraded your title. No, that's it, just the title."
Use that title to go somewhere else for the raise you should have gotten.
I’d love to follow Veronica’s adventures. She’s a hero for the working class.
Lady didn’t know she hired someone competent😂
The correct amount for them to pay her for the position change to salaried is $122,500 or more. The reason for than number is that if she were to keep her current pay rate at hourly while working 60 hours a week, then she would also be getting 20 hours of overtime at time and a half. If you multiply her hourly rate by 40 plus the time and a half for the 20 hours for 52 weeks, then you get the number I gave above. Anything more than than would be a genuine increase.
Though I've not checked your numbers, this is the correct way of calculating a raise. This comment needs to be pinned.
@anandsharma7430 Yall misunderstanding the motive. It's not about rewarding her hard work or some other nonsense. It's about getting costs down. Now that she's refused they'll begin pressuring her to go salary and failing that they'll find a way to get rid of her
@@FantomMisfit from the employer's perspective that makes sense but you're effectively taking a pay cut to become salaried. My argument is that from the workers perspective it's not worth it to become salaried if you take a pay cut and work more hours. It's only worth it if you are still making that same amount you would have made of you worked all those hours as an hourly worker.
@mew2.025 Oh I agree I'm just saying that's their motive Edit: They're effectively trying to trick you
@@FantomMisfit oh I understand now. I thought you were saying she should take the "promotion" because if she didn't they'll be more likely to fire her.
Prestige is code word for more work😂
When employers don't understand that the only reason people work, is money. Nobody really cares about status, unless it comes with at least twice the hourly pay. I can also guarantee that nobody cares about pizza parties or special work events. We'd all rather just have that money put into our paychecks. Lol
One minute old, but it’ll still be a clean video 5 years from now.
Also this is too on point. That’s why I love the Veronica series
This is a new one I wasn't aware of. Disguising a new disadvantageous contract as a "raise" because technically it is a PAY raise, it's just that the work hours are raised significantly more. Wtf.
Overall, you are getting more money yearly, it’s just that the trade off is you’re working more hours, which takes time away from other things in your life, like for example, others what you could be making even more money
Your managerial powers don't work on me, girl. Muah-ha-ha!
Salary is a funny thing. I say that because some people get bump to Salary pay and suddenly have the amazing freedom of not having to work weekends, overtime, can take off regardless of what time a day it is so long as THEIR work is "done" and even have magical unlimited vacation/PTO time. Meanwhile other people get bumped up to Salary and suddenly it's the Old Schoo, "You get paid more money because you work longer hours", Suddenly you are the first and last person in the building, anything that needs covering regardless of how big or small it is you have to cover, and so on and so on, etc, etc! I don't know I just find it funny how Salary works totally different for some people.
Our top department manager recently mentioned how being salaried is not all it’s cracked up to be. It was so hard not to point out that she chose it. A few years ago, two young managers were complaining about the 60 hr schedules. I told them they needed to keep quiet around the rest of us, because at least they knew how much they were taking home every week. The rest of us had just been cut back and given inconsistent hours for the holidays.
Sorry but my landlord dont accept prestige as payments 😂
Never ever take a salaried job for anything below upper management.
They promote people mostly based on their abilities to be gaslit or to commit gaslighting. Hence why most managers act genuinely shocked when some employees call them out on gaslighting.
TLDR; corporations are nests of the psychologically dangerous.
I keep seeing reuploads of these Veronica skits with different animations but I don't ever see any credit to the original person who made these.
I don't even KNOW who originally made these. It's all a jumble of reuploads at this point
She is.
It's @Customerserviceadvice . It's the link in the title of the vid (though they aren't always creditied)
Anytime i hear salary i hear forced overtime
Same thing happened to me haven’t worked salary in a few years I always budget before I accept anything now
Im invested in this veronica character now
She’s so good
Because she's stealing her content...
@@AndreaForlani Proof?
When they punish hard work with more hard work
You really think people want to take pay cuts with added work? I don't care what "title" I gain; I want the pay I would be owed. I can't pay bills with a title, lol.
Prestige does not pay, and mental sanity comes first. Ergo, good Sir / Madam, keep thine prestige and begone from mine humble sight post-haste!
I once had a coworker that was forcibly transferred to a field office for three months every year. The transfer came with a title change and a high salary (changed from a mediocre wage). This annual three month stint also coincided with the busy harvest period when 12+ hours per day, 7 days a week, were typical. After the harvest was complete and there was no need for such long work days, he would be transferred back to the home facility and resume a lesser title with the crappy wage.
❤ I love Veronica. She keeps it real all the time!! ❤️👍🏿
veronica is our shower thoughts, what everyone hope they could tell their managers if they were 100 honest
This is the fifth time I’ve seen this clip drawn differently
Piggy backers. The original creator found some success and an audience
Prestige is for people who have their needs met
can you eat prestige? pay the utilities? .no? .that's neither a raise nor a promotion. .go away.
I have a question. If she is salaried, won't she be getting better employee benefits that she doesn't have as an hourly worker? Didn't factor that in to the compensation package. The lack of benefits is why hourly workers have 'higher' hourly rates. But I agree that a promotion may not be worth it if you have to work a hell of a lot more hours.
My family cant eat prestige not cam they function better in my abscene. PLUS I gotta work MORE and get PAID LESS?
NO way
she should've said: "prestige doesn't pay bills"
Wow. Didn't know this existed. Thanks for shedding light on this. I'll be sure to check my pay to time ratios!
Lol xD Girl Can do fast math I wish I could do the same
Prestige aint never paid my bills😅😊
This is the kind of crap Walmart pulls. Makes all these people managers and they work 60 to 80 hours when figured out is below minimum wage to be on a salary. Plus gives them power over all the people that make hourly never get over 40 hours.
They call you an "Associate", but you're nothing more than a worker bee.
no way she did the math in her head that quick🧢
Actually the analysis should be the 15000 bump or 288 a week extra divided by the additional 20 hours required or 14.42 per hour. U could make more at mcdonalds as a side gig. Hate this when this happens and they think they are doing us a favor!!
I always tell jobs when hired I refuse to work salary. You have no idea how many mangers i have made angry by saying that.
The numbers.. 😂
This kinda shit is why I'm happy as a salaried Chemist. Boss can't even dream of holding me longer, my shit's too efficient. Not the craziest pay, but I make it work
And this kids is why you should pass math in class
prestige that would require me to give a shit about what others think of me wich i dont care as long as im not doing anything wrong lol
On the flip side, what people dont realize is that you are making more money.
Sure, less per hour, but more total.
Good luck finding a part-time job that is going to pay you $33/hr so that you are really making more per hour.
If I went put and found a part time 20 hour oer week job, I would actually be losing money vs. working 60 hours at my current job.
I'm not defending the manager, but how any employee behaves like that and doesn't still work in fast food is beyond me.
I thought they would just fire you if they do this...
I'd call my landlord and ask them if they accept "Prestige" as payment
I heard that there are some perks of being salaried. But they seem dubious at best and I really like not having my work phone on when I am not working so, I shall stay an hourly employee thank you very much.
Veronia should have said yeah I will take the salary job because they cannot force her to work more than 40 hours simply because of salary.
Take the job, work your 40 hours and go home and when they complain, see other veronica stories.
Military has been doing that for decades
Now do "How HR is a make work scheme for woman and political activists."
I hate how much i relate to this jaded antiwork channel. You speak truth in your skits, but in real life, i think this kind of stuff gets you replaced
It's not anti-work. It's anti exploitation
@@beaudwayful i guess when i say "anti work," i mean "anti working culture of these shitty fkin companies"
This shit is why I hate the idea of Salary vs Hourly. Hourly has way more protections, don’t fall for it!
The reason they do that is because those "over time" hours are just seasonal
I left a company that want leads and supervisors to stay over every freaking day for 30 more mins (mind you we were working 12 hrs already) and we never got paid those extra 30 mins
isn‘t that illegal?
60 hours/week,hell no
I have a annual salary i work less hours than a full time salery and the company is still oblegated to pay.
I hope you get a real pay bump so you can get some acoustics foam or maybe a massive tapestry hung up. You work hard on these animations - you should sound like you recorded in a studio. Even though studio time is $$$ you can fake it by muffling the walls with stuff.
Prestige, my a$$.
I can't tell you how many times I've gotten a raise, and the rebalance on taxes kept me at the same net pay, capitalism doesn't want its working class to have money.
Are you in the US? Because the tax system here does not work like that. If you break into a higher tax bracket, only the increase in pay gets taxed at the higher rate so you’re still making more money after taxes.
@@ourtube4266 I am. maybe not the exact checks before the raise, the $/hr rate of my net pay on the first check after was barely any higher than when I checked at some point before the raise.
There's some chance it was a case of tax bracket changes, but it still felt miserable.
@@byronsmothers8064 then you’re probably getting more taken out in taxes than you should be and you’ll be getting a much better tax refund for the year.
If you’re still really concerned, you can plug your old pay into an online tax calculator and compare it to your new pay to see what your actual net difference is.
Man, if only those Capitalists would advocate for flat taxes that didn’t keep your take-home pay the same amount even though you’re making more.
The hourly rate probably won't increase much even with a fairly heft raise. The average US worker works something like 1,800 hours a year so a $1,800 pay rise will increase the average worker's hourly rate by $1, pre tax. Maybe that's what's happened
Though I agree being a worker sucks :') It's not *just* because of taxes though
Learn math and statistics people. It's also rarely ever about what they're saying, pay attention to what they're not telling you. Once you know that, it's very easy to see how people lie with numbers.
I hate that they say the average is 60ish hours a week. Ok, then 20 hrs of OT pay? I don't do work for free. Compensate me for my time or I work the 40 hrs a week as a full time employee.
AKSHUALLY the math is a bit off because veronica didn't consider overtime.
60 hours worked per week, because those 20 hours of overtime, assuming the typical "time and a half" arrangement in US, would have pay equivalent to 70 hours per week, or warranting 75% increase from 40.
70K*1.75=122.5K; that would be the salary that does not constitute hourly rate decrease.
does prestige pay bills...??
Can I pay rent or buy food with prestige?
Where's the blackmail?
You skipped the part she said "good news? You gonna stop asking me for my seconds?" Which makes the haha very funny part not make sense.
Your animations are nice, but you should give credit to the original creator of the audio.
Funny I watched this exact scene on another video with different animation. Same person or is someone stealing content?
"Prestige" lol yeah I smell BULLSHIT
HOLD UP!! She makes $70,000 in customer service??
Right??
Wrong
Black mail? More like using a carrot to lure you into a less meaningful position.
Thank you
Welcome!