Basically. Which is kinda the heresy as a whole. Perty is basically the only reason the traitors made it to terra as a single force. He had to essentially round up the other legions and MAKE them go do what horus had told them. Then when they got there, the traitors slowly stopped listening to him and started relying on daemons more so he said fuck it and left.
@@WonderwutDorn was also the golden son and was treated like a hero with his legion, while perty and the iron warriors were treated like dirt and sent to the worst sieges with no glory and spat on by everyone else, dispite doing the worst jobs stoically and arguably doing more than the Imperial Fists.
Perty's rage quit here is completely understandable. His traitor brothers treated him worse than before the Heresy (atleast no one back then tried to kill him, *ahem* Fulgrim), his allies lost their marbles and just charged the palace with demons up their ass, thw Baldmaster barely even talked to him, he had to work with the dude that gave him terminal cancer, and no one did any of his plans
Oh yeah, I think it's pretty likely that if the traitor forces were cohesive and actually listened to perty, he probably could have broken opened terra.
I wouldn't even call it ragequitting. it wasn't emotional or on a whim. That was the right decision at the right moment and saved the last bit of his life.
@@MUSIC7052 It was a moment of growth for him. He for once thought of himself and did something for him rather then bottling it up and being angry and bitter. I believe him and Lorgar both grew into fuller more capable people.
@@Vincent_A. Fulgrim tricked Perturabo and took away part of Perturabo's life essense to have enough for his ascention to demon princehood. Perty barely survived and is forced to wear his armor 24/7 to dampen after effects that are comparable to cancer.
@@Vincent_A. Ye, fulgrim siphons perty's soul on his ascension to daemonhood, now perturabo's soul is forever leaking and his lifeforce is wasting away
I don't know alot about the lore but from the very little I know, without Perturabo the Heresy probably would have been stomped out pretty quickly. I'm not sure they'd have even made it to Terra.
The odd part is this is a show of remarkable growth for him, him spacificly refusing to drop a awful sige purely becuase he refuses to be percived as whiny only to whine in a diffrent way has been a consistent issue of his. Him sniffing bullshit, taking a breath and just leaving? It's so honest and self respectful it's kinda shocking
It was already a lie the moment Horus told him that. Did Horus respect the Iron Warior when he was a loyal warmaster and in charge of the crusade ? Did Horus stop the "IW goes to mud and the worst battle ? No
Actually, he looks pretty much the same as before, only larger and his skin is very grey but honestly, compared to his daemonic brothers, he is the most normal.
Fulgrim leaving Anagron a mess and defeated Alphrius dead Magnus getting his ass beat by Vulkan Morty fighting The Khan Horus chooses to do close to nothing Lorgar tries a coup and gets banished Konrad was batshit insane and committed Suicide by assassin So only Perty and Morty were really trying to win
@@Mognemind I think it was the other way around. Horus denied Perturabo the honour of storming the palace, after he carried the whole siege to this point, stripping him of command and put Mortarion in charge instead. I think this was the final straw that made him quit.
+Perty: I have a plan. If we follow it by letter it will be a piece of cake -Chaos Forces: No plan only chaos!!! Some chaos gibberish +Perty: Fuck this shit I m out
Perturabo was basically the one sober student in a group project full of drunks and he dropped the project into the only other semi capable hands, Mortarian who’s the adderall addict in this scenario and was studying while doing two other projects.
People calling out Perturabo for having a rage quit moment And not giving Horus the Dickhead a sidewards glance on what was running through his head for changing command from Perturabo to Mortarion just, cause
Perterabo was barely a Traitor; it's not even that he was really FOR Chaos, it's that he was AGAINST the Emperor, and considering how the Emperor treated most of the Primarchs, you can't blame him entirely. I know Perterabo gets called whiny and such, and that's totally warranted, but if the Emperor had shown him any true affection or praised him every once and a while, it's likely he would've stayed loyal, and without him it's arguable if the Heresy would've gotten to Terra.
You’re probably right, the only issue would be if he and Dorn would be able to coexist trying to run defenses, but the Traitor’ Legion’s offensive capabilities and willingness to work together would have diminished so much quicker without him.
Yeah, it’s probably best for humanity that he quit, Perterabo probably wouldn’t have been demoralised by Horus’s death, and probably would’ve just pushed harder to take the palace. It’s debatable whether he would be able to take the final fortress before Gulliman and the Lion arrived though
Perturabo proves he did what he promised, that he could achieve victory; just to toss the ball into their bumbling hands... "Now walk the last yard my dear Brothers"
This part is actually really interesting. Horus let him have the floor a lot at the start but when their ego all took them they just focused on Perty's flaws. Had they just listened to him and didnt let their boredom get to them, they probably would've won None of the others would have ever been able to take terra
He did not took this decision lightly tough. In the EATD part 3 he was enraged and furious. It is also in this time that it seem that he would decide to seek to become a demon prince.
He was written to be a demon from his first conceptions he’s never been anything other than a demon The first line ever written about perturabo is “demon primarch of the iron warriors legion”
@@blakemelhuish1118 I'm still surprised none of the traitor primarchs turned back loyalist after finding out Horus had been corrupted by chaos. My understanding is that most of them didn't know until the heresy was well underway.
@@blakemelhuish1118. 40k's back story was written like myth and legend rather than a factual historical account. That's kind of the point of the HH books, to give us the ability to see what really happened and how the Imperium became such a mess. That being said, I don't think they really mesh all that well. Saying "The Emperor was betrayed his most beloved son who lead his brothers in a war against their father" sounds cool. But then showing us all the primarchs were adult superbumans before ever meeting the Emperor makes their relationship towards him different than what the legends describe. That and I think them seeing him as their father is kind of hamfisted and forced. So did Perturabo really become a demon or did someone from the HH time period simply assume he was like the rest? We don't know because not being certain of a lot of the setting was the point.
Mortarion and Angron had only one tactic but slightly different in execution. It was "Go forward." The only difference is that Angron's marines ran faster. Fulgrim had completely abandoned the concept of tactics altogether. The Nightlords were useless in a fight against other marines because they had no discipline making them effectively the same as Fulgrim's forces. The Alpha Legion were so obsessed with having over-complicated plans that they literally lost the plot and didn't know what they were doing half the time. Instead of joining the siege they were away making sure that Guilliman would or wouldn't arrive in time but not really... The Wordbearers, Sons of Horus and Iron Warriors were the only ones that were even slightly competent and the chaos worshipping double-traitors of Lorgar weren't even there. Lorgar ran away before the siege even began after pulling a Starscream and failing to become leader of the decepticons. Somehow they were winning there for a couple of hours...against a numerically inferior foe...and with superior weaponry. Buncha Clowns.
I do honestly think that if they weren't all practically rabid dogs by that point, with Pertuabo's lead, the palace would have fallen in half the time.
I like how most of the traitor primarchs were getting their asses handed to them on Terra, and then Curze was just like "I'mma play murderous hide and seek in your house and win!" with Rowboat Girlyman and the Lion.
I'm impressed that the whole fourth legion (iirc) followed. Idk if that was the gene-coded loyalty or the rank and file saw this as wasteful and saw the retreat as pragmatic.
If it wasn’t for Perty and Morty, and their legions, the Siege wouldn’t have even been a Siege, and would have been a relatively short battle where the traitors would have got their stuff rocked, and it would have ended with the emperor totally fine
Literally all of peturabos actions (besides the bullshit he did to his own legion) we’re actually completely justified. Basically a better siegemaster than dorn but not pretty enough so he was the tool and dorn was the advertisement. Having all your sons getting killed constantly without any actual reward from the emperor is justified. Even konrad got some emperor and me time that crazy fuck. Perturabo could also see the eye of terror always and understood everything. My headcannon is he doesn’t hate the emperor nore the imperium but understood that due to his abilities he would never be able to remain satisfied or even sane bc he would constantly have new ideas to improve the imperium, which I believe the emperor would ignore in favor of his own plan.
Honestly, Perturabo should've fired upon the traitor legions after pulling his forces back, not to rejoin the Emperor's side, but to give his "Brothers" a parting gift.
I’m most of the way through Angel Exterminatus, almost skipped it cos I fuckin hate the EC and can’t stand reading about them, but I’m glad I started it just cos of Peter turbo. Very well written
Emps: you are my weapon perturabo my world breaker my thundering Sieger I promise to a retirement one where can build to splendor of your hearts contempt endure so this promise my come That that’s was all emperor had to say and perturabo would be as loyal as Dorn
What happened to this guy? For all I know that of Warhammer most of the other primarchs either died during the heresy, fell to chaos, or became like Gilman and the lion being put in a coma for 10,000 years?( Also don't know if those two are the only ones sleeping)
*Figures out how to win the war.* *Nobody fucking listens to him* *About to lose the war.* "Fuck this. Y'all suck. I'm out." *rage quit* "Oh my God, now I know how Johnson feels..."
Lots of people calling it rage… I gotta disagree Perturabo is smart he does the math, he doesn’t care to lose people if it guarantees victory. But I think he knew the traitors had lost and couldn’t win so he stopped letting his men senselessly die and left the traitors to their fate. Primarchs were father and treated there legion like there sons Perturabo was a General and treated them like what they are Soldiers, and he had more sense then pride and left when things were lost.
Still did not repent reflected or anything as always it's about ego with this guy.. literally was the perfect moment to say wtf I'm doing and turn yourself in.. but he would never admit he's wrong.. he rather le a demon go to town on his ass than admit he screwed up.. or admit he could not crack terra's defenses
And this is why chaos, much like order, can't ever truely win. Because they dismiss and rip each other apart. only way it could ever happen is when GW forces the bullshit card.
You have Peterturbo, the guy who beat Rogal Dorn in a siege fight, and no one listened to him? I know pre and post heracy Horace didn't like actually listening to his advisors, but you have the most brilliant meat grinder. At least listen to how he would use Lionel Johnson's siege weapons...
Chaos is fun like that. People with completely justifiable reasons for turning against the Imperium can be rapidly and shockingly twisted into gibbering loons who twirl mustaches and scream 'Just as Planned!' Axe-murdering psychos who yell "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!", sadomasochistic bastards who consider torture porn a basic standard of living, and, of course, ultra-zombies with 3 different forms of Space AIDS, typhoid, every cancer ever, and Explosive Necrosis.
People really love how Perturabo carried the heresy, but in my eyes he was just the workhorse of chaos. Doing more than he had to, just because Horus buttered him up a bit. All the while with his brothers losing their minds and messing around like freak show animals on rocks.
Not my favorite primarch, well in all aspects except engineering and technologysnd building etc. but definitely my favorite traitor legion. IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT!!
Almost makes me wonder if the corrupted Horus was only consciously chaos corrupted, but subconsciously still the original Horus. He would have been subconsciously avoiding enacting Perty's plans to avoid the success they would bring.
It's possible. The prophecy from whats-their-name group said that if Horus wins, he'd become so consumed by guilt and remorse that he would go on to extinguish all Humanity throughout the galaxy, and even the chaos gods themselves, who derived so much of themselves from humanity
Thing is Perturabo is so inconsistent, he neither is an ally nor a villian, nobody likes him. They like the Iron Warriors yes, but not the Primarch, he is a dunce.
He is a very relatable person, which is why people don't like him. He shows the unfortunate side of like even when you try really hard only to have it fuck up last second at someone else's action. The iron warriors are great because they get shit done. He's just been dealt the shifty hand of asshole foreman who has everyone up his arse to get the job done and never gets complimented or thanked. Which led to him being bitter and more blunt than a sledge hammer. Everyone one can relate to that mind set atleast once in their lives, he is just the extreme case of it becoming a permanent mindset and not a temporary one.
Any real gains that led to the traitors getting to the eternity gate at all were off Perty's back. everyone else was so fucked up on chaos bullshit that they were barely even contributing by this point, with the worst being the Emperors children who wearnt even really participating in the siege and instead were off fucking about on pointless raids on the civilian population
Bro literally rage quitted and sent one of the worst replacements possible into his place 💀 The only worse primarch would probably be Fulgrim or Konrad
Perty was carrying the whole siege by himself and got angron under check and as soon as mortarion took over he felt disrespected and betrayed so he decided to leave them to carry on without him since they didn't need his advice or guidance
So long story short he said “if I’m going down it’s not with you lot, bye bitches”
Basically. Which is kinda the heresy as a whole. Perty is basically the only reason the traitors made it to terra as a single force. He had to essentially round up the other legions and MAKE them go do what horus had told them. Then when they got there, the traitors slowly stopped listening to him and started relying on daemons more so he said fuck it and left.
Perty runs when he sees hes losing like a coward. Dorn while clearly losing just says "No"
GOATURABO
@@WonderwutDorn was also the golden son and was treated like a hero with his legion, while perty and the iron warriors were treated like dirt and sent to the worst sieges with no glory and spat on by everyone else, dispite doing the worst jobs stoically and arguably doing more than the Imperial Fists.
Yeah my ass he couldn't run anywhere hahaha it's called siege for a reason @@Wonderwut
Perty's rage quit here is completely understandable. His traitor brothers treated him worse than before the Heresy (atleast no one back then tried to kill him, *ahem* Fulgrim), his allies lost their marbles and just charged the palace with demons up their ass, thw Baldmaster barely even talked to him, he had to work with the dude that gave him terminal cancer, and no one did any of his plans
Oh yeah, I think it's pretty likely that if the traitor forces were cohesive and actually listened to perty, he probably could have broken opened terra.
I wouldn't even call it ragequitting. it wasn't emotional or on a whim. That was the right decision at the right moment and saved the last bit of his life.
@@MUSIC7052 It was a moment of growth for him. He for once thought of himself and did something for him rather then bottling it up and being angry and bitter. I believe him and Lorgar both grew into fuller more capable people.
@@Vincent_A. Fulgrim tricked Perturabo and took away part of Perturabo's life essense to have enough for his ascention to demon princehood. Perty barely survived and is forced to wear his armor 24/7 to dampen after effects that are comparable to cancer.
@@Vincent_A. Ye, fulgrim siphons perty's soul on his ascension to daemonhood, now perturabo's soul is forever leaking and his lifeforce is wasting away
The single most justifiable rage quit in human history
Well he was basically carrying the siege alone..
He didn’t just carry the siege, he carried the entire heresy
@@Stannyboyyyyyy yeah . Without him the heresy would have ended in two weeks
I don't know alot about the lore but from the very little I know, without Perturabo the Heresy probably would have been stomped out pretty quickly. I'm not sure they'd have even made it to Terra.
Perturabo said "Fuck this shit, I'm out"
"Iron within, iron without me. Bye loosers"
😂🎉
When Perturabo see his brothers prefered summoning demons and turning against each others than listening him
" I am done, bye fuckers"
The odd part is this is a show of remarkable growth for him, him spacificly refusing to drop a awful sige purely becuase he refuses to be percived as whiny only to whine in a diffrent way has been a consistent issue of his. Him sniffing bullshit, taking a breath and just leaving? It's so honest and self respectful it's kinda shocking
He is the only traitor to get positive character development from the heresy.
I like Perty hitting his buddies the "deuces" meme.
The one thing Horus promised him was the respect he felt the imperium had denied him.
And in the end he didn't even get that
I remem er an exerpt where Horus just lays on the disrespect for Perturabo, didn't even have the courtesy to say it to his face.
In a meta way, Perturabo DID get respect…from the fans
It was already a lie the moment Horus told him that. Did Horus respect the Iron Warior when he was a loyal warmaster and in charge of the crusade ? Did Horus stop the "IW goes to mud and the worst battle ? No
It still looks odd he became a demon primarch. He should have stayed a traitor but not chaos affiliated.
Actually, he looks pretty much the same as before, only larger and his skin is very grey but honestly, compared to his daemonic brothers, he is the most normal.
The irony is he mellowed out as a Demon Primarch, even tries joking with and teaching his sons.
@@styxriverr5237Oh whoa, goes to show there's such things as "It can't get any worse, only better"
@@derpderp8440 which chaos gods did he align with?
@@calvintan8877Nurgle weirdly. It would have been more fitting with Vashtorr the Arkifane but ofc GW doesn’t care.
Don’t forget he blew 18 big holes/gaps into the palace before he left as a final F U to Dorn
Fulgrim leaving Anagron a mess and defeated Alphrius dead Magnus getting his ass beat by Vulkan Morty fighting The Khan Horus chooses to do close to nothing Lorgar tries a coup and gets banished Konrad was batshit insane and committed Suicide by assassin So only Perty and Morty were really trying to win
With this in mind, it makes sense that Morty was given the command of the siege after Perty ragequit
@@Mognemind I think it was the other way around. Horus denied Perturabo the honour of storming the palace, after he carried the whole siege to this point, stripping him of command and put Mortarion in charge instead. I think this was the final straw that made him quit.
+Perty: I have a plan. If we follow it by letter it will be a piece of cake
-Chaos Forces: No plan only chaos!!! Some chaos gibberish
+Perty: Fuck this shit I m out
Perturabo was petty, angry and jealous. But he wasn't stoopid
Perturabo was basically the one sober student in a group project full of drunks and he dropped the project into the only other semi capable hands, Mortarian who’s the adderall addict in this scenario and was studying while doing two other projects.
He should become something akin to a dreadnought that uses daemonkin as fuel, would be cool as fuck.
As someone who plays 30-50 min games of Conquest on Smite, mostly as Solo but occasionally Support, I say he is fully justified.
He carried the entire siege on his back and bailed the moment he broke down the last defenses as the last "Fuck You" to Dorn...
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Bro that's awesome it looks good
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That was honestly one of the best slides if I’m being honest
People calling out Perturabo for having a rage quit moment
And not giving Horus the Dickhead a sidewards glance on what was running through his head for changing command from Perturabo to Mortarion just,
cause
Perterabo was barely a Traitor; it's not even that he was really FOR Chaos, it's that he was AGAINST the Emperor, and considering how the Emperor treated most of the Primarchs, you can't blame him entirely.
I know Perterabo gets called whiny and such, and that's totally warranted, but if the Emperor had shown him any true affection or praised him every once and a while, it's likely he would've stayed loyal, and without him it's arguable if the Heresy would've gotten to Terra.
You’re probably right, the only issue would be if he and Dorn would be able to coexist trying to run defenses, but the Traitor’ Legion’s offensive capabilities and willingness to work together would have diminished so much quicker without him.
Agron was the same way until the butchers nail.he was mad bc his father let his friends die.
Perturabo quiting gave the defenders a chance. Had he stayed Horus forces win the siege.
Yeah, it’s probably best for humanity that he quit, Perterabo probably wouldn’t have been demoralised by Horus’s death, and probably would’ve just pushed harder to take the palace. It’s debatable whether he would be able to take the final fortress before Gulliman and the Lion arrived though
He's the best of the chaos primarchs for sure. Can't wait to get his deamon form model one day
Perturabo proves he did what he promised, that he could achieve victory; just to toss the ball into their bumbling hands... "Now walk the last yard my dear Brothers"
He wanted humanity vs humanity but as the fight goes on all he sees are demons fighting against humans
This part is actually really interesting. Horus let him have the floor a lot at the start but when their ego all took them they just focused on Perty's flaws. Had they just listened to him and didnt let their boredom get to them, they probably would've won
None of the others would have ever been able to take terra
He did not took this decision lightly tough. In the EATD part 3 he was enraged and furious. It is also in this time that it seem that he would decide to seek to become a demon prince.
Weak Aura: Continuing a losing battle
Strong Aura: Rage quit 🗿
Imo making him a demon prince was a mistake. Having him still a traitor but still deny choas would have been more interesting for his character
He was written to be a demon from his first conceptions he’s never been anything other than a demon
The first line ever written about perturabo is “demon primarch of the iron warriors legion”
@@blakemelhuish1118 I'm still surprised none of the traitor primarchs turned back loyalist after finding out Horus had been corrupted by chaos. My understanding is that most of them didn't know until the heresy was well underway.
@@blakemelhuish1118 I honestly think they're gonna retcon it. Not sure but if it's a feeling I have.
@@blakemelhuish1118. 40k's back story was written like myth and legend rather than a factual historical account. That's kind of the point of the HH books, to give us the ability to see what really happened and how the Imperium became such a mess. That being said, I don't think they really mesh all that well. Saying "The Emperor was betrayed his most beloved son who lead his brothers in a war against their father" sounds cool. But then showing us all the primarchs were adult superbumans before ever meeting the Emperor makes their relationship towards him different than what the legends describe. That and I think them seeing him as their father is kind of hamfisted and forced. So did Perturabo really become a demon or did someone from the HH time period simply assume he was like the rest? We don't know because not being certain of a lot of the setting was the point.
When you have daddy issues but figured out you had the least amount of issues.
Morty and perty got screwed by how the seige went, they tryna win it whike their allies just trolled
Horus: "Perturabo, where are you going?"
Perturabo: "This phone number is nolonger in operation. Please direct inquires up your own arse"
Goodly explained 👍
When you had enough of carrying a moronic team you alt f4 and let em die.
It's surprising how ridiculously incompetent the traitors actually were, considering how far they got.
Mortarion and Angron had only one tactic but slightly different in execution.
It was "Go forward." The only difference is that Angron's marines ran faster.
Fulgrim had completely abandoned the concept of tactics altogether.
The Nightlords were useless in a fight against other marines because they had no discipline making them effectively the same as Fulgrim's forces.
The Alpha Legion were so obsessed with having over-complicated plans that they literally lost the plot and didn't know what they were doing half the time. Instead of joining the siege they were away making sure that Guilliman would or wouldn't arrive in time but not really...
The Wordbearers, Sons of Horus and Iron Warriors were the only ones that were even slightly competent and the chaos worshipping double-traitors of Lorgar weren't even there. Lorgar ran away before the siege even began after pulling a Starscream and failing to become leader of the decepticons.
Somehow they were winning there for a couple of hours...against a numerically inferior foe...and with superior weaponry.
Buncha Clowns.
Alright so the plan is to not listen to the guy who is an expert in sieges
-Horus
Perturabo: "Screw you guys, Imma going home....."
"Screw you guys, I'm going home!"
Bro saw the stats of the other team and dipped the fuck out
When the dude thats 20/2/80 in your team just rq because they couldve ended the game at 20mins
I do honestly think that if they weren't all practically rabid dogs by that point, with Pertuabo's lead, the palace would have fallen in half the time.
I like how most of the traitor primarchs were getting their asses handed to them on Terra, and then Curze was just like "I'mma play murderous hide and seek in your house and win!" with Rowboat Girlyman and the Lion.
Had his brothers listened to him, the traitors would have won.
Perturabo at the Siege of Terra: *fuck this shit I'm out*
I'm impressed that the whole fourth legion (iirc) followed. Idk if that was the gene-coded loyalty or the rank and file saw this as wasteful and saw the retreat as pragmatic.
Him becoming a Daemon Primarch makes no fcking sense.
Crazy part…. If they had listened to him there’s a good chance they might have won….
If it wasn’t for Perty and Morty, and their legions, the Siege wouldn’t have even been a Siege, and would have been a relatively short battle where the traitors would have got their stuff rocked, and it would have ended with the emperor totally fine
He had enough with carrying a bot lobby and decided to bounce.
Literally all of peturabos actions (besides the bullshit he did to his own legion) we’re actually completely justified. Basically a better siegemaster than dorn but not pretty enough so he was the tool and dorn was the advertisement. Having all your sons getting killed constantly without any actual reward from the emperor is justified. Even konrad got some emperor and me time that crazy fuck. Perturabo could also see the eye of terror always and understood everything. My headcannon is he doesn’t hate the emperor nore the imperium but understood that due to his abilities he would never be able to remain satisfied or even sane bc he would constantly have new ideas to improve the imperium, which I believe the emperor would ignore in favor of his own plan.
“Nahhh im leaving, we lose now”
Despite Horus' belief that Dorn was superior, he would have won had he heeded Perturabo.
Amazing how long the loyalists held considering
Honestly, Perturabo should've fired upon the traitor legions after pulling his forces back, not to rejoin the Emperor's side, but to give his "Brothers" a parting gift.
Perty is the best of the tratiors and im pumped hes getting BBEG treatment in the new lores
Oh interesting
I’m most of the way through Angel Exterminatus, almost skipped it cos I fuckin hate the EC and can’t stand reading about them, but I’m glad I started it just cos of Peter turbo. Very well written
when your teammates say one more round after 30 rounds loosing
Emps: you are my weapon perturabo my world breaker my thundering Sieger I promise to a retirement one where can build to splendor of your hearts contempt endure so this promise my come
That that’s was all emperor had to say and perturabo would be as loyal as Dorn
What happened to this guy? For all I know that of Warhammer most of the other primarchs either died during the heresy, fell to chaos, or became like Gilman and the lion being put in a coma for 10,000 years?( Also don't know if those two are the only ones sleeping)
Horus even said during the siege he would’ve taken Dorn over perty in a heartbeat
Does anyone know who the artist who drew the artwork at 026 seconds
@roycoll2123 yes, the one of Perturabo in a cartoon Joe Madureira style. It looks fantastic
@roycoll2123 thanks so much
So Perturabo thought that bringing order into a faction dependent on literal chaos will somehow work out in his favour?
As to why boxing can’t just establish one championship belt is beyond me.
So,what happend to perturabo after this?
Giving mortarion, the biggest lunatic of them all at that time was a terrible choice on horus's count. Even angron was a better choice at that point
Mortarion is definitely not the biggest lunatic compared to perturabo and konrad
*Figures out how to win the war.*
*Nobody fucking listens to him*
*About to lose the war.*
"Fuck this. Y'all suck. I'm out."
*rage quit*
"Oh my God, now I know how Johnson feels..."
Hard carry of the legions. Lol even the other chaos legions don't fck with them. No one wants that hornets nest
Screw you guys, I'm going home
Where’s the book excerpt ?
Lots of people calling it rage… I gotta disagree Perturabo is smart he does the math, he doesn’t care to lose people if it guarantees victory. But I think he knew the traitors had lost and couldn’t win so he stopped letting his men senselessly die and left the traitors to their fate. Primarchs were father and treated there legion like there sons Perturabo was a General and treated them like what they are Soldiers, and he had more sense then pride and left when things were lost.
it's like decades of experience pro seeing his teammates are a bunch of overconfident noobs
Still did not repent reflected or anything as always it's about ego with this guy.. literally was the perfect moment to say wtf I'm doing and turn yourself in.. but he would never admit he's wrong.. he rather le a demon go to town on his ass than admit he screwed up.. or admit he could not crack terra's defenses
Screw you guys. I'm going home
So the best thing he ever did was run away like a coward.
This speaks volumes on how much Part Turbo sucks.
And this is why chaos, much like order, can't ever truely win. Because they dismiss and rip each other apart. only way it could ever happen is when GW forces the bullshit card.
You have Peterturbo, the guy who beat Rogal Dorn in a siege fight, and no one listened to him?
I know pre and post heracy Horace didn't like actually listening to his advisors, but you have the most brilliant meat grinder. At least listen to how he would use Lionel Johnson's siege weapons...
He didn't fail at terra, he just left before he lost! A coward would say they are not the same but a loyalist knows they are
Yeah Horus and the others really became idiots with the only one having any excuse being Angron
Chaos is fun like that.
People with completely justifiable reasons for turning against the Imperium can be rapidly and shockingly twisted into gibbering loons who twirl mustaches and scream 'Just as Planned!' Axe-murdering psychos who yell "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!", sadomasochistic bastards who consider torture porn a basic standard of living, and, of course, ultra-zombies with 3 different forms of Space AIDS, typhoid, every cancer ever, and Explosive Necrosis.
horus was wrong to put a demon primarch in charage morty sacrficed the other demon legions weaking the fragile alience
A Coward is always a Coward.
Replacing the lord of iron with Mortarion, as the leader of a siege is just asinine
People really love how Perturabo carried the heresy, but in my eyes he was just the workhorse of chaos.
Doing more than he had to, just because Horus buttered him up a bit.
All the while with his brothers losing their minds and messing around like freak show animals on rocks.
So Horus put 2nd braid dead primarch after Angron to lead the siege 🤡
Not my favorite primarch, well in all aspects except engineering and technologysnd building etc. but definitely my favorite traitor legion. IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT!!
But then in a later scene he baby rages and destroys his bedroom.
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Almost makes me wonder if the corrupted Horus was only consciously chaos corrupted, but subconsciously still the original Horus. He would have been subconsciously avoiding enacting Perty's plans to avoid the success they would bring.
It's possible. The prophecy from whats-their-name group said that if Horus wins, he'd become so consumed by guilt and remorse that he would go on to extinguish all Humanity throughout the galaxy, and even the chaos gods themselves, who derived so much of themselves from humanity
@@ambion19yeah that’s essentially what the cabal told alpharius which I think if I remember correctly kinda lead to his betrayal of the emperor
Thing is Perturabo is so inconsistent, he neither is an ally nor a villian, nobody likes him. They like the Iron Warriors yes, but not the Primarch, he is a dunce.
He is a very relatable person, which is why people don't like him. He shows the unfortunate side of like even when you try really hard only to have it fuck up last second at someone else's action. The iron warriors are great because they get shit done. He's just been dealt the shifty hand of asshole foreman who has everyone up his arse to get the job done and never gets complimented or thanked. Which led to him being bitter and more blunt than a sledge hammer. Everyone one can relate to that mind set atleast once in their lives, he is just the extreme case of it becoming a permanent mindset and not a temporary one.
Any real gains that led to the traitors getting to the eternity gate at all were off Perty's back. everyone else was so fucked up on chaos bullshit that they were barely even contributing by this point, with the worst being the Emperors children who wearnt even really participating in the siege and instead were off fucking about on pointless raids on the civilian population
Bro literally rage quitted and sent one of the worst replacements possible into his place 💀
The only worse primarch would probably be Fulgrim or Konrad
The one thing i most hate about warhammer 40k is that the eye of terrorvshould be draining massive amounts of chaos energy just to maintain.
It probably is. Or maybe rifts of a certain size and area become so massive that they effectively 'kill' the materium's ability locally to push back
Perty was carrying the whole siege by himself and got angron under check and as soon as mortarion took over he felt disrespected and betrayed so he decided to leave them to carry on without him since they didn't need his advice or guidance
Screw you guys I'm going home.