Announcing YouTube Memberships!
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
- 💚 Learn more about being a member: explore.healthygamer.gg/youtu...
We know what it feels like to struggle to get help and we aim to make it easier. Our vision for HG Memberships is to be your resource hub for deepening knowledge and gaining the skills you need to level up in life.
What do our members get?
💚 4 in depth live members-only lectures
💚 Exclusive access to vote on upcoming topics
💚 Live Q&A with Dr. K
💚 Weekly Quests
💚 Early updates about HG & members-only community
💚 Member badges and emotes
With HG Memberships we'll be able to offer more real, raw content that will hopefully be as entertaining as it is educational.
We want you to be able to take the info you get from VODs and apply it IRL in a way regular UA-cam videos can’t. And you'll be able to vote on the topics we cover, so we can dive deeper into the stuff YOU want to learn about most!
Hey there, wanted to clarify a few things.
Memberships will not affect the cadence or quality of the free content we have available now. UA-cam videos will continue to be produced and Dr. K will stream as per the usual schedule.
Memberships is about going deeper and not replacing anything we're already doing.
95% of what we try to provide is free. UA-cam videos, livestreams, resource packs, and our reddit + discord communities will continue to exist.
It takes Dr. K 8 hours to research, write and workshop a single video. Memberships allow us to add 4 new pieces of content a month that is not at the mercy of the algorithm.
Ultimately the mission is to create affordable, accessible, and inclusive content for the digital generation. Our goal is to deliver a lot of value for the price, and we appreciate y'alls feedback in the process. 💚
I wonder if you could trial making some of these vods available for the general public on a second channel? I think everyone fully supports this idea but is disheartened that resources that sound to be so valuable would still be behind a paywall. I would imagine the majority of membership owners would engage more with the streams and polls, but engage less with older content, so publicly available VODs months after release would not harshly impact your bottom line for memberships? Just giving honest feedback, but I think generally the community has been pretty vocal about this same point so just repeating what's already been said.
Hey, I fully support your mission but I'm a bit confused about some stuff, especially given the backlash in the comments - and I would be thankful if you clarified one thing. I don't understand if the following is the membership model you suggested, and if not then why it doesn't work (I don't really know how yt works so I would appreciate the explanation).
The model being: the yt membership system with members that choose the topic of the next very-in-depth video lecture with live member-only QNA regarding that topic - with the VOD of said lecture uploaded onto the second channel that would be created specifically for those deep-dive lectures and without the ability to ask questions in real time (as VODs work).
I am not an expert so all I want is clarification, because many people seem to be confused about the subject why such model wouldn't work, and instead requiring $10 to access those additional lectures. Does the algorithm punish for managing 2 channels dedicated to similar subjects but in different forms? I'm just confused, please let me (us?) understand it better.
Please take care ❤
Can't you just make a patreon so those who can financially support you, can, and those more vulnerable do not have their access to information (likely helpful information) restricted because of their financial circumstances?
Just release the content a month later for free viewers. Or do patreon only streams once a month that you still upload the VOD eventually, but the patrons have exclusive access to participate during the live or something.
Feels like a waaaaay better solution.
Limiting the freedom of information based on financial positioning is a slippery slope, especially when your information is targeted towards the most vulnerable.
@@nothenryporter81 It's not subpar content at all, in fact it's the opposite- the free content over the past 2 years has skyrocketed in quality and will continue to do so. The issue is that when you start to make content deep diving into very specific issues in this field, you go against the demands of the algorithm.
Current uploads conform to the whims of the algorithm, and by extension pay for themselves via views and ad revenue, but they only do this *because* they bring in the numbers that they do, and they only do that *because* they conform, whereas the alternative content will not, hence the subscription fee.
I bought the membership, but I’d be totally fine with the videos being released later for everyone to watch for free
I hope the vids will be released publicly later for everyone to benefit from. If worried about the algorithm then can create a new channel for such VODs i believe
My thoughts exactly
@RJ-sd8ze That just doesn't make sense. The issue is discoverability. If you've ever looked at analytics, it just doesn't make sense to put the videos on another channel. Additionally, when it comes to accessibility, it's better to centralise the information somewhere rather than just spread it here and there without it being complete. Finally, the goal of HG isn't to make money for the sake of shoving it in the corporate or personal bank account of its founders; they need money to increase the amount of services they can offer as close to free as possible. This goes for the foundation, this goes for free content, this goes for reducing costs of coaching, etc. It's basic business sense; you choose who to favour and use resources taken somewhere to focus on delivering better elsewhere, just like a government.
@@DrCornTato that makes some sense, I think? Sure, investing in content is good, and Dr.K should be able to monetize his hard work more, he deserves all the best with what he's doing for us. I'm not sure how discoverability applies when the VODs would not be available on yt though, nor in anyone's feed if they are monetized. I'm just confused by the whole situation, I commented under the pinned message, hopefully he replies. He's a good soul, there's no denying that, but I just wanna understand his decision better because it all seems a bit confusing regarding mentioned accessibility
@@DrCornTatoIf content is locked behind a paywal then it isn't discoverable at all...
@hahahabloods That is probably somewhat true. Dr. K said in the past that he was still trying to figure out how he'd go about content that he's streamed with some form of exclusivity, like the workshops. Until now, much of the resources can still be accessed for free on their website, where there are video guides that you can follow at no cost (it's basically an ordered list of his recorded library). I wouldn't be surprised to see those show up there at some point. Either way, I choose to trust Dr. K to do the things that will benefit the most people in the long run, and that's not something I do lightly. I have not seen Dr. K doing something deserving of distrust until now, and I don't see why that would change any time soon.
Dr. K, Healthygamer team, and community, please be aware that not everyone lives in the US and Europe and there's a lot of people outside of those countries who have mental health issues. And there are some people who live in these places that cannot afford or access mental health services. In my country, 1 USD is about 50 times that of my country's currency. On top of not being able to afford therapy in my country, I cannot afford signing up for the coaching programs. This is because I am saving up. And with the promotion of UA-cam memberships, I certainly cannot afford paying for one every month. With that being said, I am sticking to free content and mental health services.
Good thing there is lots of free content available to people like you thats made possible by those paid services that others pay for.
Honestly man at least if they provide regional prices.
It is not the worst idea, but 10 $ a month is a lot for my country. Also main target audience is mostly people who struggle with mental health, having trouble to get job in such bad time. Id love to join but i simply cant.
They should have a patreon or donations, so those who are able to pay can while not leaving behind people struggling financially who arguably need mental health support even more.
You're better off getting it later anyways when more content is available
I like your jersey/sweater… whatever it’s called there. 😄
I think this is literally the exact opposite of what the community said we wanted when I saw the community post yall made a couple weeks ago
You probably wanna check that post again.
@@merkuree read the comments. it's clear that people didn't mind the idea so long as the VODs were available to all
damn HealthyGamerGG is now P2W
I don't quite understand how youtube memberships would remove the impact of the youtube algorithm and the repeating questions from new people - apart from forming additional revenue streams that possibly make attracting new people through the algorithm obsolete. Are you intending to form a two classes community where the free viewers get the standard content that repeats every few weeks but is suitable for new viewers and the nobility ... err ... paying members get the in depth lectures? Perhaps I am misunderstanding your plans here because that doesn't sound positive at all.
I think the thing to consider here though is good content that takes hours to prepare can't always be free. At the end of the day I'd say he works very hard and should feel entitled to extra revenue. However, I guess it just depends on people's perspectives at the end of the day. I can see why you dislike it but personally I'm okay with it.
@@oceanrl3267@oceanrl3267 I wouldn't say he works for free though, I believe he already has a paid course, on top of UA-cam Ad rev and twitch Ad rev and twitch subs and donos, to me it feels like a way of getting even more, those 7 videos out of 10 that he says they make could just as easily be put on a second channel if it wasn't about money...
@@oceanrl3267 I mean, between merch, Dr. K’s Guide, and the coaching program it’s not like he doesn’t already have ways to make money…
A "members only" video gets treated differently by the algorithm.
If they released them publicly, the audience retention would be lower and UA-cam would stop sharing the videos to people
He's lying. He just wants more money.
You could just make another channel for more in depth lectures? If you prioritize helping people out more than money, than making those resources public and free is the superior choice. I dont think its bad that you are monetizing it, but I know I'm not gonna pay for it, and I love the resources about psychology you provide on this channel, so I'd also love to hear some in depth lectures about a particular thing as well.
I would love to join the membership, but with the economic state of my country (Iran) and myself, 10 euros means 20 persent of my monthly wage and simply cant afford it.
I'm not sure how to feel...
I love this community, Dr. K's content possibly saved my life and got me on the right track, I'm even pursuing my master's now in psychology. I'll forever be grateful.
But with that said, putting information so many of us could benefit from behind a pay-wall seems like it contradicts the original values of the channel. I completely understand you have employees you need to pay, a community you need to continue building, but I fear withholding discussions from those who can't afford it (like me) is going to actually turn people away. I pre-ordered your book day 1 because I want to support Dr. K, but I cannot afford a monthly subscription. I really hope these membership-only streams become publicly available at a later date... There are many communities that put main content for their subs a bit earlier than everyone else, or extra content that isn't as essential, like behind-the-scenes stuff for example. I just really don't want HealthyGamer to go down this path when it was originally about providing education to everyone. I care so much about this channel.
Hey, thanks for your support and congrats on pursuing your masters! Of everything we do, more therapists in the world is the most impactful AOE buff.
There's no withholding, we're only adding. Take what feels good to you for free, no thanks needed.
We really appreciate your support for the book and the channel. Our behind the scenes is boring, because we're always building mental health resources. Dr. K is here to share his expertise more than his personal life. Our education *is* for everyone. For those who do want to go deeper with Dr. K and *only* Dr. K, that's memberships. Otherwise, you know we constantly encourage therapy, we have mental health coaching, and mental health guides, etc. This channel cares about you, too. Please allow us some time to nail this format. We have lots of great ideas and just need time to prove it.
@@HealthyGamerGGYou are absolutely withholding content. People who cannot afford to pay for this content will not be able to view it. That is withholding.
@@HealthyGamerGG I appreciate the reply as it shows you guys are genuinely reading the feedback.
I brought up the behind-the-scenes other creators do merely as an example of how they try to find ways to make more revenue without putting paywalls on main content. Every creator needs to find different ways to do it, which is tough for sure, but I do believe you can find benefits for members that don't deprive main viewers of really informative content. After all, education to all, including the less fortunate, always struck me as what this channel is about. Letting members vote for the topics for example is a fantastic idea. Heck, member-only VODs isn't an issue as long as the public eventually gets access to them later on. But you guys have not clarified that will happen, which is where our concerns come from.
We understand your regular uploads will continue, but as a long-time viewer, I'm incredibly interested in deeper, more specific topics as well, and I'm not alone. I am a full-time college student with 2 severe auto-immune diseases that currently keep me from working. I have no consistent income I can spend on a monthly subscription, I don't even have enough money with health insurance to afford therapy. This channel, as a result, was a huge resource for me, and I've been watching every single video for 2 years. I've shared your channel to every single one of my friends, advertise them on my twitter, even cite your videos in my classes. But now because I can't afford to be a member, there will be amazing and informative videos I am not allowed to watch. It just feels awful with how much I've tried to support this channel. Especially when the reasons you guys are giving do not line up very well. The algorithm for example has very little to do with this membership idea... and Dr. K wanting to return to more specific content does not mean it needs to be paywalled. So many of your consistent viewers are just as eager to see more specific content, but we're broke. Dr. K has talked so much about how much our generation financially struggles in his videos too, I'd imagine he understands.
In the end, I am incredibly grateful for everything you guys have done creating this community, but I really hope you guys will reconsider and allow the member-only VODs to become public.
Not putting this kind of content behind a paywall means that nobody gets the content because it wouldn't have been practical to produce.
The entire point of this kind of content for the membership is to be advanced, which means it's for more niche of an audience, which means it will not generate enough revenue to be worth spending all the hours creating it, so it only works as a membership.
@@SpaceOddity174 I understand what you're saying, but I think you and the HealthyGamer team are significantly underestimating how interested the consistent viewer base is in more in-depth content. Like Dr. K said, he's currently just covering the same topics over and over and it is becoming stale for those of us who are long-time viewers. I can't speak for everyone, but I see I am definitely not alone in wanting more specific topics. They're making assumptions those types of videos won't be worth making without having even tried it.
I have very mixed feelings about this.
On the one hand I totally understand why you've made the decision, on the other hand I very much do not like the idea of these things being behind what is essentially a pay-wall. People are employed by HG and need to be paid, but when I think about what Dr K said about why HG was created in the first place. He said that so many people were coming to him with similar questions that he had to devise a way to communicate this out to the world. This seems like that only the people that are in a position to pay can get that help now.
Don't get me wrong, I love this community and what it's doing and trying to do. I'd be in a very different place if I didn't know about HG. I just don't want it to lose its way.
I feel the exact same way, well said. From an objective standpoint this decision is understandable, but as a member of the community this takes one step away from the value of accessibility that's been core to HealthyGamerGG, which is really sad to see.
I suggest a compromise would be to make old VODs from the members channel available on a second channel? Members still benefit from the live chat, voting for curated content and immediate access to the content; but people who are struggling both mentally and financially can have access to these invaluable resources.
You have mixed feelings because you didnt pay attention. The membership videos are extra. If youre not a member literally nothing will change from your perspective
@@ullantra That's good to know, because the most disadvantaged of us have access to the most resources and money. OH WAIT! No we don't.
@@ullantra It's moreso the principle. It's disheartening to discover that content which has always been free on UA-cam begin to become paid-for, especially content that intends to "fix" current issues with the channel as Dr K mentions. It may logically make sense, and is an understandable financial decision, but as you can see by the comments has the community split. It could signal a step towards pay-walling more content, and is a step in the wrong direction for the community. There are measures that could be taken to encourage revenue streams without pay-walling content, and I think everyone here would advocate for that.
@@ullantra I hear where you're coming from. And believe me, I'd be happier if I was incorrect. The way I took this is that these long videos don't perform well on the channel due to the algorithm. If I'm understanding correctly, they are making four additional videos that may or may not be available to people that don't pay the membership. I (and others in the comments) feel that an approach such as that (paying and potentially pay-walling) is kind of antithetical to what Healthy Gamer really is at least in our heads anyway.
I read the pinned comment and I hope that the additional videos do not completely replace the long form videos that are were made on the channel and the additional videos are made available in some way to the people that really need them. We're all on the same team here believe me. I just wanted to express my concerns about it, no worries 😁
I'm sorry, but this feels a bit dishonest to me.
The question that immediately comes up is: Why can't you just add more indepth content for free, if it apparently doesn't take away from the time you're spending on the existing content? I guess the answer is that you expect it to do worse on YT (algorithm etc), but you still want to make money with it. That is absolutely fine as far as I am concerned, but then please say so! Don't pretend YT membership gives you anything you couldn't do for free, other than (hopefully) appropriate payment for your work.
If I'm way off then I'm deeply sorry, but that is how this comes across to me.
I don't think they misrepresented this in the video. I believe when you say "please say so!", this is the video where he is saying so.
What I understood from the video was: The longer more in-depth videos they (would) make wouldn't perform well on general UA-cam, and so HG wouldn't be properly compensated for their work. To correct this and also foster an environment where more in depth topics can be discussed, and each person can be expected to have some baseline understanding to build on, they turn to UA-cam memberships.
I don't see this as much different than Dr.K's guide, which has helped me quite a lot.
All you said would still make sense if the VODs were made public later on. You could still have a restricted community that pays to choose the topics and then make the content available for everyone.
Just got word from an HG discord mod that VODs will indeed be gatekept and available to members only. Take that as you will.
They'll be re uploaded somewhere
I found your comment in a “Comments By Members” section. I didn’t even know this existed lol
Just the VODs for the member streams or for all streams?
healthygamer micro transactions just dropped
Isn’t the ability to go deep on a topic what Dr. K’s Guide is for? And haven’t many of us (myself included) already paid for it? Or am I not understanding how different this new things gonna be??
Maybe he spent the money he got from Dr K's guide on expanding his business, but now that most people who wanted to purchase it already purchased it, the cash revenue started dwindling and so he needs more regular income to sustain the expansion of his business.
That would be the most charitable guess, just capitalism being capitalism and Dr K being a conduit.
If you're an ambitious person in a capitalist system and want capitalist success, you need to milk your consumers to sustain your business regardless if you're selling food or electronics or in-game skins or enlightenment
Now I’m all for paying for quality info, but if the goal is for people to slowly get exposed to deeper and longer topics, then putting up what is factually a paywall doesn’t seem like a good fix to me.
We don’t all have some money laying around. Tho many of us have a little time a day for self improvement. This might be a wall for more people then you would think + goes somewhat against the purpose of this channel/your goal with it.
A second channel as far as I know would be a better choice in my opinion as I understand this situation
Who said you can't go in depth on here?
So what you are saying is, instead of offering what you think will help the most people based on your insights and training , you are going to allow a select few/minority of your audience, to dictate the content and direction of the channel, because they are paying money... So you are renting out the channels programming?
Just make a damn patreon so those who can pay, can, and those who can't pay (often most vulnerable) can just wait a couple of weeks or even a month to get access to the same info.
This feels antithetical to the whole mission of HGG.
The algorithm says so, as has been explained.
Hey there, thanks for the feedback! Members will not dictate the future of the whole channel, just for members-only videos. 💚
@@TechTeller96 Ok.. So is it the members only content going to be all the content Dr K has been wanting to cover, that is new and more spiritual related with topics in more depth, or the content as voted by the members which is likely to be plagued by the same content/questions/topic requests because membership is not limited to long time viewers?
It is still restricting access of information based on someone's financial standing... Which is still fishy. Especially when those individuals are likely to be the ones who benefit from this particular information the most. And also especially when donation based and Patreon like models have been proven to work in funding large projects and organizations while not pay-walling content and allowing access to all free viewers, be it at a later date.
The ratio of negative comments to positive ones speaks for itself.
"I like money" Dr K
@@HeloisGevit"I like free stuff" viewers
@@garimeragonols This youtube channel must generate a ton of ad revenue - but it's not enough, need MORE REVENUE, MORE MONEY ££££$$$$666
i mean if its paid its not really gonna solve the issue@@garimeragonols
@@garimeragonolsIndeed we do, who doesn’t
Just say you wanna make a bag people wont judge. Saying you're doing this because "this channel is growing too fast and everyone is asking the same questions" is a lie.
If one problem is the increasing growth rate of the channel, doing private content for members isn't gonna solve that. At the same time, it seems HG GG still wants to grow... I ask why. Might pick up more people for the channel, to be helped by it, but there will be content that those like me, who can't afford membership and were already a part of this, will miss and not learn about.
I think it would help the new people who, as Doctor K said, ask old questions if there was a document (or something similar) with easy access to old videos that answer those old questions. I'm sad to know there will info I'll miss, but I understand the aim for growth.
This! I know the algorithm wouldn't encourage such things though
There already is a section of his discord that puts together videos on topics he has talked about before answering a specific question
The VODs will supposedly be free.
I think the argument for this will remain that the content being provided is extra for long time members, when they mean growth it just mean money it appears not in terms of reaching more people this time.
i understand wanting to make money out of all of this, with my hope that you will make the best out of it and improve everything with that money. but also....during the live stream you had this whole talk about mens health and at the end of that talk "how to be a man" you ended up with "and if you want to know how to actually handle all of this, it will be in the payed lecture". now that was something i really disliked, this topic is important to me and now i almost feel forced to pay up to watch it Wednesday. not cool. i get that hours of studying to give a proper lecture costs time and money but still....
It is sad how every good idea in internet becomes corrupted into biznes.
I don't see why they can't just release the detailed videos, all the others videos are still in the channel and people can go back and navigate the channel and find other topics and videos, that's what I've done not only here but on any channel of my interest. I remember Dr K clearly saying in one occasion at least that they really didn't need any donations but they're grateful of course, and I am, I purchased the Guide to mental health (the first 3, ADHD is not really something I struggle with so I haven't purchased the last one), so I really don't understand why is that important getting more reach, they already have a very big reach organically.
If they go with this idea I would still watch the channel of course, but I don't think I'll become a member, I really can't afford do a payment month by month, but good luck
Hey, just wanted to inquire about your personal perspective on whether the guide was helpful enough for you to deal with mental problems (depression) on your own, or it didn't feel suffcient enough and left you in need for more mental health advice?
@@marius2738 It was helpful, mind you my main problems are related more to anxiety than depression, I would say it's helpful for understanding the type of depression you might have, understanding how your mind works and taking a more analytic approach to it would definitely help you (this is true also for anxiety,maybe more so...). I think is a good complement to professional treatment, since some people might need medication to cope, it depends on the case but I wouldn't say it's a replacement, take it as a good book that would help you with additional information and as a good starting point to understand the underlying problems that might be going on in your head that you were not aware before, almost forgot to add, it has plenty of meditations that you can try and some info about natural treatment (herbs)
Dr. K, you have the kindest, most sincere smile. I'm new to your channel but I guess unlike others, I watched many of your older clips to find out as much as I could about your group. If you charge, I just simply couldn't afford it.
Same, unfortunately
They will still make free content; this is an option to get extra content catered to you.
@@hoopnani Thank God for that! Since discovering this channel, I've wanted at least one video a day, if not more! I'm digging the insight & education!!
This community gets more and more exclusive with each passing day. Pretty sad about it
It's weird. It's like a family member leaving abroad off from home for wanting more money. Heartbreaking, but the reality. The only thing is how much impact this channel has had on me. On some days when I was too low, this was what kept me just going. Now, I feel little like meh...typical business stuff.
Your not alone in that feeling
Will the paywalled content be ever available for free to the community?
For example after about 2 months
Because if not i think it goes agains the values i thought this channel had, of not gatekeeping anyone. Poor prople and others not from europe or from USA included.
Sry for bad english , is my third language
Sorry, Dr.K, this is a big slap to your community. You can achieve the same goal by using the community tab.
If you are worried about the algorithm, make a second channel for long-in-depth type of videos and let people know in this channel.
You'd split the momentum between two channels then, which defeats the purpose.
i dont quite understand what you mean, i think we can expect that HG is gonna handle this well and make the membership an Extra.
im confident that the community will only bennefit from this
@@merkuree Not really. I know streamers with 3 different channels. A channel works best when you always post the same type of content. It is very common for streamers to have a VOD channel, a highlights channel and a channel for scripted and well-edited content.
@@Septic_Mind It isn't really extra when 4 videos a month are getting locked behind a paywall. These videos could be interesting to us too.
How will the community benefit from missing out on content?
This is a lot of extra effort on their part. They can't survive on the mercy of the audiences budget of 0 dollars. Let them grow as a business so that they can create even more awesome stuff for us. I am very excited about this and will gladly offer my support once I am able to.
so, P2W really man? WTF?
Aoe healing : conditions applied
Exactly!
Dr K is going pay to win. GGs
I like the gaming terminology you use. It is an ironic way to put things
This is such a good way to put it lol. Except it wouldn’t be pay to win, because winning would mean your fully healed. It’s more like pay to think you win.
If you actually care about providing advanced content and helping people and not just profiting off of desperate folks by dangling a carrot of something advanced before them once they get hooked on your authority and consider you their guru, why charge $10 instead of $1-2? Surely couple of bucks per viewer will pay for you spending 30-40 hours a month in any case
I feel very mixed about this. I looked throughout the entire comment section before adding one of my own, listening to this on loop. It’s very unclear to me, still, whether or not this content will be free to obtain at any point in time. There was a commentator I felt had a good argument, that there’s already a knowledge barrier for a first time viewer who isn’t going to know about the eastern philosophy/religious concepts Dr. K frequently draws upon, so these advanced lectures deserve to be placed elsewhere where it can be properly appreciated. To that I agree. I don’t understand why a second channel would not be an appropriate place for it, besides a financial incentive. You already have a 2nd channel specifically for parenting content, it seems to me that an “advanced course” channel would be appropriate, similar to the way Crash Course has a separate Channel for Elementary/Middle school courses. I would even be understanding of the paid membership videos if the VODS or large pieces are going to be used in an update or 2nd edition of Dr. K’s guide. Using memberships essentially as funding for upgrading or updating a current or future product doesn’t strike me as morally dubious. If this is just membership content and will not be moving anywhere else then I don’t believe I will be supportive. I will be picking up Dr. K’s guide sometime in the new year when I can afford it. I hope these questions will be answered in the future, and I hope justification of some sort will be given if the content is intended to stay members-exclusive.
Let's be real people, this guy is not struggling for money. But he is asking a community of people, many with mental health problems, to donate $10 a month. I think it defeats the purpose and is prime capitalist thinking: progress for progress' sake, the health of thr community be damned. I've read about the community blog, I've read he released books,. If he needs money he can monetise the context with ads - this is one case where I would actually support that if that keeps the content free.
I do think they are struggling for money, its a business after all and chances are they're not making enough to sustain their business. It's embarrassing for a company who once claimed they wanted to put mental health first putting their business money making ventures first instead
They have employees they have to pay, i bet it would be less work and more money for him if he just continues to work as a therapist instead of all of this
yup guys a doctor lmao
100%, it’s sad to see.
How is it donating. It's paying for a premium service
After seeing what the memberships are being used for, im definitely on board, its a great way of ensuring someone doesnt come here and leave because everything went over their head, for those wondering, its worth the cost imo
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…" Many will see this step as one closer to becoming a sad reality. Many of us, skeptics can see it as a betrayal of early days values.
But I understand, that HG is now a brand, and brands need to grow and also make money to support that. The growth benefits both sides, as HG can reach more people and generate more revenue for whatever reason. New people need the knowledge we already have, that's why we see topics being repeated over and over. The old members can't find new knowledge here, so the idea is great but maybe not implemented to adhere to the old values. As many have said, the middle ground would be other channel or membership content to be released later for everyone.
I am grateful for many HG lessons. I support HG by watching the content and boosting the algorithm - hope this helps. I won't be making excuses for myself - I will not join because there is always a way to freeload content and knowledge.
Ah, another great content creator falls prey to youtube's scheme I see. I guess I had higher expectations here because Dr. K knows that this is how these companies work. They manipulate your data to coerce you into caving to the format they want you to deliver in order to maximize advertising. It doesn't matter what side of the curtain you are on. This move pumps your stats for a while but within a year your following declines as people feel a lack of authenticity because of the "exclusivity FOMO" and "money grab". UA-cam loves this churn. FWIW, you are reaching a lot of people Dr. K, and part of why you do is because you're doing things the way you want to. You should just do that instead of gatekeeping content to make more money. You don't need a machine, just you
I don't understand why you think he doesn't want to do what he's doing.
Also, what's up with memberships?
@@quinndtxd That's not quite what I said. Dr. K is a psychologist that has treated addiction, and has said that he is aware of the way online platforms manipulate you with regards to your content consumption. I believe that he should be equally aware that online platforms also manipulate the content creators to create the type and length of content preferred for ads and monetization (most ads, least monetization) by manipulating your analytics indirectly (only steer users to preferred content) and also using handlers to "guide you to optimize your exposure". Memberships is one of these things your handler will push heavily. But it creates a deep division in your audience (have money/have not) and damages the content creator's perceived authenticity (which is critical in Dr. K's case) because it gatekeeps content and creates FOMO. The problem is, once you start it, you can't stop, otherwise you're letting down your members at some point. That paid content will also stay locked away forever from the rest of your viewers. It also just looks like a money grab on Dr. K's part (his explanation video later helped explain his strategy on it but despite his best efforst, to me, it just said he let himself get bullied by youtube). It takes a strong will to resist such "overwhelming evidence" that memberships is the "right path" but the truth is, the content provision model Dr. K created already worked fine up until now and would have continued to work without the hit to his reputation. UA-cam also recommends this model because it has killed more content creators popularity within a year than anything else. For the reasons mentioned above. UA-cam prefers not to let creators get TOO popular, especially those who are preaching against social media addiction, and whose popularity is getting expensive to pay the monetization on. Also, if there is a lot of churn, that makes room for new content creators, giving the appearance of freshness for youtube. Frankly, IMHO, if he needed more capital, Dr. K would have done better to accept large donations as long as they came with no strings because the last thing he should do is create doubts about his motivations and words since trust is so key in his helping people. A little long, hope it helped explain a bit. TL;DR Memberships are a trap by youtube
that will kill your credibility and viewership within a year.
Great just when I thought one person would try to help without asking for money I don't have...
9.99? Geez everything in this world is about money this truly breaks my heart 💔
You say you work with "big companies" I don't think you need any money from us.. 99 cents shows this is for us, $9.99 shows this is for money...
But i think many of the videos are very useful and everyone has a belly to feed
@@MP-ut6eb yes if he was poor eating ramen most nights trying to fix his life then sure! He is not this. He is paid big bucks by big people to help privilege people get better. THIS was supposed to be his way to help those who can't afford it. As I already stated...
@@MP-ut6ebhis current stream has 4k views..
At 99 cents that's basically at least 4k a month... If he's "hurting" THAT would be plenty to buffer his situation. 9.99 is about money there is no way to spin that at all..
@@MP-ut6ebThis is the single worst thing about the world today, not being willing to compromise and go "backwards" in life. People live 10 million dollar lives but instead of going down to a 2 million dollar life I'm going to lay off thousands of the already meagerly paid staff because I don't want to downsize in life let the people beneath me give up things so I don't have to.
Yall don't know that being a content creator means creating content good or bad, yall yall yall
If the problem is being subject to the UA-cam algorithm and therefore in-depth long-form videos would hurt the channel, then why not make a second channel for the long-form videos? It's awfully convenient that the solution you came up with to solve this cherry-picked list of problems involves handing you our money.
Capitalism got your tongue?
Why are you a slave to the algorithm? Isn't the channel popular enough that you could just post what you want even if it means not gaining 2k subs per month? I pretty much only watch your older vids, such as the long-form sessions with normal, relatable people that you did before you moved on to exclusively interviewing big time streamers for clicks. And, man, $10 per month is a lot of money for many people - especially those who need help the most.
The hypocrisy of all these UA-camrs that claim to be outraged at inequality and power imbalance in the world, to later end up on the positive side of that discrepancy and seek out even more is almost a guarantee at this point. Can't have them make any self sacrifices to their lavish lifestyle and evergrowing e-celebrity status.
Agree with you on the interest in interviewing real people not interviewing people that get more acknowledgement and financial assistance when their sleeping or reacting to a video then most people will get throughout their entire lives.
They act like this is the solution when the algorithm could literally change overnight in 2 seconds to push short form prank content or something to the massess.
It's always changing, take the wins and the losses. It evens out. One change doesn't mean you're free of the algorithm forever.
LMFAO DR K BATTLEPASS
I personally dont feel this is a good idea, as someone who has benefitted greatly from dr K.
I feel like this kinda defeats the mission statement of the channel, it’s a shame we won’t be seeing many long-form videos in the future
@@dameanvil What a weird, pessimistic take.
His long form content has become the typical talk show where the "elite" get their branding further out there, while maintaining the image of being relatable and down to Earth.
I disagree. There will still be a lot of free content, and I'd be willing to bet that even the stuff that's behind a pay wall for a while will be released for free. This is the way to create an even deeper community for those who want it, especially in a capitalist society. I think this move makes a lot of sense, even if it may rub some people the wrong way.
Why can’t it be both. What he said in the video makes perfect sense, but he also does needs money just like anyone else, and if he is spending 8 hours on a video he definitely deserves to get paid for it.
Win-win situations is the best way to do things in life. Let him earn the money so he can keep helping people without self sacrifice
And there it is, what started out as a genuine desire to help people has turned into how to maximize profit. Sigh.
to keep Dr.k from seeing the same questions in the chat and not take any of drk's time, cant regular viewers tell the person asking if he already anwsered it and point to where, then his time isnt put to waste and the person asking gets the help.
yup, this could easily be mitigated through various and many other means that don't require a lot of effort
Nope, that wouldn’t be as lucrative for him. He needs his daughters to drive lambos when they hit 16.
@@Crookedjoker1 lets be more optimistic and hope he spends most of his wealth on healthygamer.
What's happening with user interviews? I think they are super valuable
They are his best content, best way to reach a new audience, best way to see a specified and unique perspective, but they aren’t his most lucrative.
Dr K picked the option he liked more.
so now he is a guru I guess, preying on the lost souls for money. Yeah that's fucked up, I'll leave now before this situation becomes even more disgusting. Never blindly trust people's intentions guys it's just a way for you to be taken advantage of
The reason scammers design scams to look the way they are is to imitate genuinely good people and products. Even if it does seem to be a scam to you does not mean it definitely is.
@@themanhimself436 scammers and gurus are not the same thing at all. Even if they were the same, your point doesn't make any sense and could have been applied to litteraly any situation. "even if hilter is a nazi to you, doesn't mean he really is" "even if the sky is blue to you, doesn't mean it really is". like stop trying to sound bright and say actual argument that works if you're gonna come here and try to contradict me
I am not liking that one of the things I will be paying for is my name and such will be shared with 3rd party people as stated in the membership information. Paying for less privacy and increased spam.😢
Sound great, would be nice if the live streaming was members only but the VOD was available for everyone later, not sure if it's already planned to be like that.
Agree completely.
Yep I second this. I think all parts of this idea sound completely understandable, aside from the pay-walling of these VODs.
Hey, I've seen Dr. K talk about this on the "Being a Man in Today's World" stream, and quite frankly this 4 minutes video feels very different from what Dr. K said on stream, though the actual meaning of both these pieces of content is practically the same, I believe they carry drastically different feelings and vibes, which is likely why this seems to be getting some poor responses.
This video feels heavily scripted and calculated, which does not at all pair well with the proposal, as it gives this such a corporate-ish vibe.
I believe a more organic approach to this announcement would do the program a lot more justice.
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PS: I don't really have any strong viewpoint in if this is a good idea or not. Intuitively, this feels odd and a bit alienating to a huge portion of the audience, but I also know that the team must have put a lot of thought into this program and believe it's worth it and in alignment with the group's cause(I trust y'all know what you're doing); so really I'd rather just wait and see
Yall yall yall don't understand he needs to be paid yall. Who else better to pay than idiotic right wingers who think their problems are equivalent to a multi millionairs... yall yall yall
I know everyone puts a lot of effort in this channel and they need to get paid but please do something better than a paywall. Maybe members could see videos earlier and vote specific topics but the content could still be free and for the general public.
I love this channel and i cant put in words how i highly regard Dr.K, please listen to the community.
you could just make it free content as a second channel. kruti going too hard
i see you
- kruti
Sadly, it feels like this channel has gone downhill as time has gone on. There's more clickbait, fewer viewer interviews, and just generally seems more like a business than a passion project. Definitely a more corporate feel, even down to the logo change
I've been feeling the same way. I watched a lot of videos but in the last month it's all clickbait titles, The topics are not that interesting anymore and the general feeling of actual helpful content seems to be gone. To now start charging for more in-depth videos, we used to get for free, does not align with what I thought Healthy Gamer was about. But in the end, guess they need to make some money as it's becoming a business. They just won't get it from me.
Because it is a business.
Yall don't appreciate heating about streamers multimillionaire problems anymore yall? Come on yall.... yall yall yall
@@rakuloe “we used to get for free” why not be thankful it’s been free so long and appreciate how far he’s come. People can’t work for free forever and even then I bet the UA-cam fee will be much lower than going to a therapist once a week. I’ll never get how people want people to give their time for free.
Murica is a capitalist country not socialist.
I don't understand why people are complaining buying this membership is more a investment and i do think it's good that it's behind a pay wall your litterly getting things tough from someone that has 20 years plus experience and it's in full depth
Hey! I think this is a good idea but due to lack of time and money I cannot partecipate in it consistently, is there a way for us to see what was posted albeit not being able to view the content so that I could strategically pay some months here and there to get content that is most interesting and useful to me?
too expensive for me
Well, some people have mixed feeling about this. I don't.
Paywalling "AOE" healing is officially betraying your core tenet. I'd be more inclined to be more understanding if you were out on the streets or cold or if the business would be failing. But your viewers were indeed generous, streams are going well, sales are doing well and your family is warm and fed and you do what you love.
And yet, somehow, this is not enough.
100%
It happens Dr K. Starting inertia!! But just try reducing the amount, not because of backlash but because of empathy (maybe sympathy 😄😄)
I just wish I would have started watching your videos earlier. Just stuck in life from a long time. 😊
Curious, if we can't afford either the time or money for a few months. Will all of the previous member content still be available for us when we do eventually join as works for us each individually?
You usually have a time limit to view, which is the time the content originator chooses…am I wrong?
"I'm prioritizing reach above usefulness, instead of being fine with the status quo, so I'm making it less useful for poor people."
Got it, unsubbed.
I am incredibly excited to join the next time I have my wallet in my hands. I just started watching your videos this month and you have already changed my life. Your explanations and teachings are very helpful and very very very well thought out. I enjoy them. I can't wait to learn more and learn how you learned it. Thank you to you and your team
Damn HG just turned into a P2W system
I think the membership idea is a good one. Your content is worth more than the price. I’m signing up now🎉
Maybe I’m just…old. But I don’t see why so many folks are freaking out about this.
I’ve watched so many channels go through similar adaptations, that a change like this isn’t scary. It’s the norm, and they have to adapt or they die.
God forbid a small team try to find new ways to pay their staff. I feel like a lot of folks view actions done by smaller teams as if they were a mega corporation. Either way it’s clear how many people have no idea how the sausage gets made or the cost of it.
Just open up donation methods so those with the financial means to support the channel, can... This sucks and feels antithetical to the whole purpose of it to begin with.
I don't think this is fuelled by greed, but I don't think it's the right solution either...
Do those who buy Dr K's guide get free/discounted memberships? Because I'm sure much of the content will overlap and they've already forked out for more in depth content.
Also how is making a paywall for some content going to stop people asking the same questions? This is a problem of all UA-camrs not just this field. All channels get asked the same few things over and over again.
I'd love to join but YT membership is too pricey. Maybe if it could be as affordable as a Twitch sub. Ludwig has a dollar YT membership, so something like that would be great.
So does this mean that the 4 lectures will be behind a paywall, or public?
I'm very interested in more indepth things, but am a poor student without expendable income.
Totally understand! The 4 lectures are members-voted topics that are presumably most interesting to the members. We know what's interesting for the community and the "general public", but we're not about to make a "10 things to know about depression" video.
Memberships are for going deeper into things we talk about -- meditation for trauma, pornography addiction, how to make friends, how to stand up for yourself. The content we make will stay as-is. No paywalling, reduced content, or paywalling what has been free. There are over 900 videos and many free deep-dives on the channel, happy watching!
@@HealthyGamerGG The question was not if the current schedule was going to change, the question was “is the new content exclusive to those who pay or will it be available for free at a later date?” (Such as a second channel) I do not see an answer to that question. I, as well as many others in this comment section, would like an answer to that question please.
@@HealthyGamerGGyall don't know. Yall thing yall is how yall speak, yall better take a look inside yall.
I have schizophrenia and am currently out of pshchosis. The only video you made on psychosis was talking with trainwrecks about drug induced psychosis. I trust you to give me accurate information more than my own psychiatrist who just keeps giving me meds in hope they work without explaining anything of what is actually happening to me. Ive heard there are some major negative effects of antipsychotics(and j have side effects such as akathasia and avolition from my current meds) and i want to knoe whay you think
omg the struggle of public facing content having to stay on the surface of things... so real
You could post them to an extra channel maybe?
My only request is regional pricing. 10 dollars a month is really expensive here
People are concerned about Dr. K's intentions, which I don't share but don't blame em either. If you guys want just wait 6 months, buy a membership and you will have between 18-24 lectures. Terminate membership before it renews and repeat every 6 months. 24 in a month may sound like a lot and I understand they are designed to be consumed in order but is what it is.
Edit: Better yet, buy youtube premium service and download the videos annually when ur a temporary member.
I'd love if you set the membership price as low as it can go.
It makes it affordable for us but you guys will still make more money per viewer compared to just ad revenue
I always wonder, how much money is enough money until you are satisfied.
i think there's a thing i keep seeing with people where they are assuming that content that would've otherwise been put up wont now, and what im hearing from the video is that there are extra things they havent done before, and they're going to start doing, but would like to do that behind the memberships programs
Hey Dr. K! I’m not agaist membershio idea because you get to have people who are really interested but..z let me ask you if you guys thought about your audience outside the US? Recently I saw a duolingo tedtalk and the founder talked about how the people who pay for duolingo are in the US while the majority of developing countries dont, simply because it turns out to be a lot. I imagine you have a audience worldwide, and with memberships you’ll mainly get people from richer countries. Just leaving my view, I love your content 🎉
This is a problem solved in the ganing world by just changing the prices, like in mu country I pay less for the same game if I had bought in the US just because its fair
I actually feel that it is reasonable to pay for this content as long as it is not too expensive. I’m in Australia 🇦🇺 and this type of content is very much needed especially on trauma which affects so many people. I have a lot of experience with being treated for trauma and from my experience I can tell psychologists are useless. A doctor has the deep understanding of neurobiology and the manner in which physiology affects the mind.
Thank you Dr K for developing this series which is so needed in our world. 🙏
$10 is too much. I think its okay to have paid elements of a brand like this, I just paid the $10 to be a member for a while! But so much of this community is international and for some folks $10 is like a weeks wages. I'm among the haves, but we still need to support the have-nots.
1). Will you ever print the guide? I purchased the entire guide. It is impossible to take notes on the lectures. I have poor vision. I cannot read the flow chart to check off which videos I have completed and taken notes on.
Are we going to have opportunities to ask questions privately? Or you will do consultations one on one base? What if I am not interested any of the topics but only few of them, will I be able to get chance to have you discuss the topic I am interested interested? Also what audiences are you targeting? Man? Women? Age group? Single or married? Dating or not?
If that’s the only goal why not start a series? Do a playlist and giving different series names giving each video an episode/part number.
That way you could go in-depth for people following along. And new people would easier find where to start and what to watch next and continue
You know why
My five cents: I think people who are willing to pay in order to have decisional power over what specific topics you'll do a deep dive into wouldn't mind that content being freely available for others, maybe on a separate channel. It would work a bit like a Patreon account.
For it not to interfere with the algorithm it could be hosted on your website or a separate account.
Of course there could be specific benefits for paying members, but potentially that could be more specific or symbolic things or stuff like name in the credits etc. From where I stand, having more funds + giving people choice in what to deep dive next + keeping content freely available AND not getting boned by the algorithm could be doable.
Bruh this got hearted. They really reading every last comment to be thorough.
How does one get an opportunity to speak with you on stream?
Off topic question. Did a 2:30 hour video about male loneliness get removed? (If it helps I remember a ''+ announcement in the end'' or something like that)
No! They appear in the "live" tab on the channel page!
Dr. K's face right now: $_$
Imagine falling for the "algorithm" and "repeat question" excuse KEKW. Just say you want more money, Dr. K. Be open and honest about it. Don't treat us like we are idiots thinking we will buy all these lame excuses.
Real Problem here is there is so much stuff that is new. And old things are boring. Best thing in this situation is not membership but having other publishers or editors to tailor content out of already made videos. Or your full streams.
They should have a library of articles they can refer people to that contain old topics, with relevant streams and clips embedded within. Make it a resource library.
@@MuffFlux They had healthygamerwiki but it stopped being uppdated. and it had refrences to videos on the topics
That is a great idea honestly, but I'll like to suggest something, after u have made that video that the members selected u to make basically, it'll be great if u do release it to the public after maybe a month or 2 of it being member only. For those people who can't pay but still wanna learn as much as they can. Like me, under my parents roof, can't pay cuz I don't think my parents will let me use their money for this reason and well I'll end up going to college soon and won't have money but I still love the in-depth reasech vieos u do even tho it take me a bit to understand and some online research. I just hope u consider this. I do understand what u mean about the surface lvl stuff, I also felt that the content was getting a bit repaptitive so honestly I'm glad you'll be doing this. But yh I do hope u take my suggestion into consideration. Or maybe that's what u planned to do and I just missed it, idk, I mishear and misread things a lot so it'll be fine if I did. At the very least I hope u read this and consider my suggestion. Hope u have a good time researching :>
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Perhaps for those who do struggle financially, could there be a “sliding-scale”? I’m not sure how this UA-cam stuff works but perhaps depending on each individual’s financial situation?
hey does this channel have a discord server or anything alike?
AOE Healing or AOE Money Farm, you decide Dr K
I think it's gonna go great! I wish your channel to grow and develop even faster!!
Absent from the video is the explanation that joining a UA-cam channel costs money (probably a monthly membership fee) and that HealthyGamerGG will likely make a lot of money from this move.
It seems the talk of money is intentionally omitted from the explanation. I do not like it when we avoid talking about things (especially things some viewers who do not understand the membership process may dislike) because it makes things less transparent.
The unpopular aspects of a decision (like a new feature costing money) should be talked about with the popular aspects. I notice the tendency to avoid talking about unpopular consequences of a line of thought is present when psychologists and philosophers publish their conclusions in academic papers.
I don't like seeing that tendency displayed in any situation.
Unfortunately, in my country, membership is too pricey. I'm sorry Dr K
People got HEATED. But maybe Patreon would be a better option, like getting stuff earlier + exclusives. It feels less "gatekeepy" in some way, but still if you're getting enough value and can afford it membership is great.
Can’t find the Join button for the life of me. Am I an idiot or can you not become a member via mobile?
I’m confused why this is something new? Does a Harvard trained psychiatrist not make enough money as it is? Especially with the Dr K guide?
I would join if its not financially exclusive for me .Please keep it affordable 😊
Member here. To me it costs just 600 ARS a month. That's half a dollar a month. Super cheap lol, it's like less than 0.5% of the minimum salary in my country, it's virtually free!!
PD: I could've joined with just 400 ARS XD but I chose the most """expensive""" option.
The price is not the point.
The point is that my music is 1 dollar. My film is 2. My bottle is plastic, needs 50 cents. Every youtuber has a dollar. Every streamer. Every platform.
You add it all up and you realize that from someone in a poor country, 200 dollar salary and 180 is nickel and dimed by various people. And it comes to a point where you have to choose between entertainment, mental health, relaxation, peace of mind from a backup or a game you like to play online.
Every time another source of your mental stability goes paid, the price is another pillar.
I'm old. I also have some money now. And I remember being young and poor and it was FINE, cause back then forums were paid by the people with some money and everyone could chat. Websites were done by volunteers. There were no barriers back then. And, armed with knowledge, I now have my own place and I help people as I can. I dislike people who grew with free wiki and, when they grow up, paywall their knowledge.
I will not support paywalls of any kind.
If you really are passionate about healing, as you claim, you'll have to make do with the books, the courses, Patreon, donations, stream donations, ad revenue and placements and maybe the member money without also paywalling the content.
You feel me?
Oh yall don't have money? Bad luck for yall. Exposing creator flaws that don't apply at all to yall won't change yall life, but give me money yall
@@nuke291 Can you buy it for me and I pay you with bitcoin, here's it's 10$ a month, that's alot
@@headswillroll89if you don't have 10 dollars you need to stop watching UA-cam videos and go work. That is less then one coffee
How do I join the membership