Bayonetta: Dodge Offset Explained (TURN ON SUBTITLES)
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2014
- As far as I could tell, there was no dodge offset tutorial on youtube. So I made one.
Covers the basics on Dodge Offsetting as well as documenting advanced techniques.
Edit: A lot of this still works in Bayonetta 2, but Taunt Offset, Crow Offset and Accessory Offset has been removed. Regular ol' dodge offset is still the same though. Also, subtitles have been added so you can all stop telling me it's hard to hear what I'm saying. - Ігри
Super appreciated that you added captions. That's rare to to find.
Thank you for mentioning this! And thank the creator for doing this!
"You wanna play bayonetta like a boss"
Yes, along with not dying 5 times in a row to grace and glory
@@lyzder7298 rather fight the og grace and glory than those variants.
Santiago Torres just PPPK lol
@@lyzder7298 i only use onyx roses for rosa XD
@@TheAnimatedGamer once I learned that Onyx Roses stop those fuckers in place, I wiped the floor with them
Grace and glory are fairly easy, fearless and fairness on the opposite hand are fucking hardcore.
8 years later your video is still helping people. Thank you for this it was a big help.
agreed, even with Bayo 3 I still revisit this for some ideas... although it would be nice if there was an equivalent succeeding video that might elaborate on what's available in Bayo 3 what with all the new options relating to Demon Masquerade and Demon Slave, and especially when it comes to Viola...
Godlike bayonetta gameplay is godlike.
Do you know where you can select practice mode?
@@johnsaltfresh5946just press option when a chapter is loading and you go into practice mode
I know Kamiya likes to make people learn the game themselves but I still think the initial tutorial of holding the button to increase the combo window is too vague. The game shows you how to do it but doesn't really explain why it's useful which just ends up giving a lot of people the impression that button mashing is the way to go.
Wait, you mean button mashing isn't the way to go?
Feerd.inand Genzz XD
The game is supposed to teach you that you can shit out damage in an unreal manner by making you fight on a crumbling platform in the first real chapter. Varied results since comments like these exist
Considering the game can't go 5 seconds without throwing you into an unnecessary button mash QTE I don't blame them for thinking the combat has little depth
He’s right yknow
I played Bayonetta from the begining, and I'm a casual gamer, so I heard of dodge offset but never understood it. This helped so much and it's making me want to go back and replay all three games. This is awesome, thank you!
It’s 2023 and this is still the Best Bayo vid on UA-cam!!
man the combat is deep
I have discovered that when using dodge offset in panther form, you can actually continue certain combos as air combos if you jump in cat form while using dodge offset but it requires quick reaction and can be a tricky but is fun :)
Yoshesque, the Queen of Bayonetta!! Such a great tutorial.
Thank you, this video here explains it so well. I have read through the wiki and tried some other sources before which were technically right but the way you described how to use the dodge offset is very clear! Now it finally feels like I am not button mashing anymore.
Another awesome trick you can use is when fighting with Shuruba, charged strike moves can actually be charged during a move animation and if done right do not break combos. So when executing an awesome pause combo you can squeeze a cheeky basic charge slash into almost every gap in the combo by holding the button down while she's in the middle of the animation.
And the wicked weave can also be activated in the middle of a dodge if you hit dodge a split second before Bayonetta has a chance to enter the wicked weave animation.
first off let me start off with thank you for being one of the only good tutorials for Bayonetta on UA-cam second off you have earned a new subcriber
and some of that has to do with the Jeanne profile picture
Jeanne and the Bayonetta series in general is one of my biggest obsessions
phenomenal video
keep it up
Great video showing the most important tip for beginners: Do NOT tap buttons. Hold them. If you are new to this game it will be next to impossible to break natural combo rythm and hold attack button to execute Dodge Offset when you need it. For example try: Punch (hold 1 sec) -> Kick (hold 1 sec) -> Punch (Wicked Weave). Holding attack buttons do not interrupt combos. This way you will always have button held for Dodge Offset when attack is incoming. Literally play like grandma using microvawe. It will be sooooooooo much easier to throw-in Dodge while performing combos. And work your way from there by trying to shorten hold time or skipping it entirely if no immediate attack is brewing.
Second tip: You do NOT have to hit enemy during combo to perform Wicked Weave. Run away, do few combo moves, hold button on last but one move and when enemy is next to you press last one for Wicked Weave. You will get bad level times but it will help you to learn attack timing.
Also on the first run pump every money you have into Witch Hearts. Your Dodge Offset will not be perfect when you will start to encounter fierce atacks like from Grace an Glory on very limited space. Prepare to be scratched :)
I hope I'm not the only one who just sucks their way through the game. It's really frustrating. The controls are really unforgiving. This ladies timing is perfect. Bayonetta doesn't do these things with me at the helm :(
Though you may be the only one who posts on google plus
I can reply to myself but not you Kevin...this video actually helped me a lot. I figured out how to dodge offset and now get platinums and gold ...on easy :) I'm using Bayonetta to learn so I can kick ass on Bayonetta 2!
Ewan Sinclair I sucked my way through bayonetta 1
Hana Tsuyoi Stone Medals are the best.
Guys, guys, it's just made for asians, give it up already, will you?
almost two years ago I watched this right before I bought my bayo 1/2 combo pack and it's helped me all this time later get better at the games and still enjoy them a couple hundred hours in each, so I thank you for helping me learn about what is now one of my favorite games.
I kept doing it wrong because I wasn't holding action button while dodging so the combo didn't build, very helpful tutorial.
Highly recommend everyone to practice Dodge Offset. Using it transcends the combat to a whole new level. A rhythm that is absent without using it.
An absolutely great tutorial. Clearly explained, and with perfectly illustrated examples. Thanks!
I needed this vid, trying to 100% bayonetta on switch and I was having issues getting steady combos for platinums. I know it's been a while since you posted this, but THANK YOU!
holy gee thank you for this explanation . now ill stop getting stone awards ;p
jvemPiRe14 They're good though.
Beat the game on normal without many issues not knowing about is, but thank you so much for explaining, I will deffo try to incorporate these moves when replaying on harder difficulties :3
Now that this is BC on the XB1 this video is extremely well done and useful. I found it looking to brush up on my technique, but had no idea of the nuanced power of the "dodge offset" THANK YOU VERY MUCH for putting this together. As a die-hard fan of the franchise you have a new fan and subscriber.
Fantastic tutorial. Dodge offset finally clicked for me when I saw how the combo was extended by holding down the buttons. Now finally able to start chaining together combos instead of mashing buttons.
I appreciate your explanations of this and Pure Platinum. I was able to eventually figure out Dodge Offset for myself, but with rankings, I thought every second wasted exploring between Verses would hurt your score, so I would always try to rush through stages and I'm sure I missed countless Verses, not to mention halos, magic, and materials.
Imagine dodge offsetting in smash bros ;)
DAMN... I've played for MORE THAN 200 hours on the FAILURE PORTED PS3 version and I had no idea you could accessory or taunt offset. Just feel sad that I don't own a xbox360.
Thanks for the upload man, this was great.
Beautiful work. Well-enough explained so that noobie like me can begin to really dig deep into what this treasure of a game can offer.
Thank you so much!
all this video shows, is that I am shit.. I feel sad now
I completely understand everything.. i just can't I cri
This person really knows how it's done, so great!
I knew I wasn't good, I just didn't know how abysmal though.
Thank you for making this video!! I just started playing bayonetta on switch, and I’m starting another run on normal, but this time aiming to get platinum on all chapters! This video will definitely help me get better ahaha. Hope you are doing well and when bayonetta 3 comes out in the future(fingers crossed) hope that we can see more content from you :)
I watched this video when i played Bayonetta on ps3, now i got the game on ps4 and wanted to refresh how to play and ended up here again. Great video, congrats! 🎉
Thank you so much for explaining this. I watched this and I got a lot better in the game just from learning dodge offset.
After all of these years I’ve been playing this game very poorly. Now I will worship the very ground you walk on.
Sooo useful. This'll make my second playthrough a gazillion times better.
These videos are awesome and i really needed the offset one , thank you you angel.
I've watched this multiple times and I still can't do it properly 😭😭
Thanks so much for this tutorial. This game has been kicking my ass--I'm looking forward to getting better at it.
Thanks for the video. I went through Non-stop Infinite Climax mode without using dodge offset after having grinded DMC3/4 since I was younger, didn't even try my hand at dodge offset until Bayo 1 got re-released on the Wii U. I think if you start out using the PPPKKP combo as generic filler it's way easier to work yourself up to more advanced stuff.
Video is a fantastic resource, had no idea there was an accessory offset. Guess it's actually motivation to use more than just the absurdly broken parry bracelet.
Just started playing this a few weeks ago and its great but this single video has started me on the road to ACTUALLY learning how to play this game right...and it feels good already :D :D :D
This is absolutely brilliant. One of my favourite games when it first came on Xbox, been playing it again now it's on PC. Been button mashing for sooo long, that's going to change thanks to this!
This tutorial is AMAZING. THANK YOU!
What's sad is I only knew you could extend P and K because she can hold her moves in Smash. Thank you for this, I didn't quite understand what Dodge Offset was!
Great tutorial. This helped me get the three required torture attacks against Grace & Glory on hard mode in the first chapter.
I've always naturally let go of my held attack when I dodged. I held it a couple times before, but never thought much of it. So this is cool to know. I also never knew about that book that has all those techniques in it, too, lol.
It feels pretty strange to do this technique. I'm so used to letting go of my attack, hahah. Gonna take some practice!
Thank you very much for explaining. I played the game for the first time and finished it on normal difficulty just recently without using dodge offset. I wondered why it was so hard even though there are two harder difficulties. Again, thanks :)
Spring Break is here
time to git gud
you make this game look way better than DMC
I've been doing dodge off set the whole time and had no idea, lol I didn't find out what it was until right now. didn't know you can use the book to practice thanks for this
Thank you for this amazing tutorial ! Bayonetta is such a great game !
Whoop. Just what I needed. Thanks for the breakdown!
Just started playing it’s so fun so much into it I keep replaying old levels before moving on
This guide is also useful for Bayonetta 2 btw. Thank you!
I was heart broken when you got hit as I am when I get hit... Such beautiful work.... You're phenomenal
THAT WAS INSANEEEEEE and very helpful thank you so much!!
This is the first and only source that has helped me in this game, thank you so much.
I was wondering if you could offer some aerial combat advice, like which weapons/moves are best for getting enemies in the air quick, and what moves to use in the air and keep it in the air. This is the main thing I haven't mastered in this game yet because there's very little material online for combat help.
Cody Carpenter Aerial combat/juggling is something I've been meaning to cover with this series. However, it's currently on the backburner as I'm working on Bayonetta 2 videos right now. It'll happen, eventually.
yoshesque
That's great to hear you're planning on it. I don't blame you for doing Bayo 2 at the moment. I look forward to it!
I thought I knew all I needed to know about dodge offset. But man was I wrong. This is very helpful.
This was extremely helpful. Thank you!
Thanks a lot. I kind of the idea of what dodge offset meant, but this explains it a lot better.
Sweet video! Awesome work!
Been playing through 1 and 2 on Wii U and Whoa I wish I was that good at those air combo, I just took the easy way out using the whip to "stay in the air"
i really needed this
Just bought bayonetta on switch, reach chapter XII, i understand now i had absolutely no idea on how to play this game. Thank you, need to train now !
how do you dodge offset when there is a delay in the combo moveset? where the command is punch delay punch. Combos can only be offsetted when there are no pauses written in the combo right? ex. (ppp.p) p stands for punch.
Great tutorial, thanks for doing it.
Your discussion on the mechanics of Bayo has really grabbed my interest! Reviewers haven’t done the game much justice, other than “it’s cool looking, over the top action, with a sexy protragonist.”
I confess to be a Souls-Bourne fanboy and haven’t found anything else I enjoy enough on the switch that keeps me interested aside from DSR.
This definitely looks like it’s for me, even if watching your combat shenanigans is about to give me a nervous breakdown.
What are those button promps for mid combo? Is that the QTE people are referring to?
Thanks for the explanation. This will help me to learn how to play Bayonetta faster. :)
This is so helpful I normally only play traditional 2D fighting games. But seeing games like DMC/Bayo having some technicality to them is interesting. Cool accent Btw! Subscribed do Bayo 2! Though I heard 1 is better
Your explanations for Bayo remind me of a Blazblue player Bojack768. Not everyone goes to to this extent to breakdown/explain and well.
Also watching you whooping ass was a delight. Playing this must be such a mood lifter when you get in the zone.
Still useful tyvm. Total game changing video. Turned the game from a cancerous experience into a satisfying one.
Before seeing this I couldn't beat Grace and Glory without taking damage, but after seeing this video I Pure Platinumed them. Omfg sub and likes forever sad to see you have so littles subscribers.
did you ever make a video explaining the fighting system in general? ive looked through your playlists and couldnt find anything it would be a great help
not a dedicated one, no. Bayo was/is so niche that I didn't think there would be a need to go into the intricacies of the system. If there's enough interest I can definitely put one together though.
There's definitely still interest. I generally don't like hack and slash at all, but I just bought it on PC knowing how well-regarded it is and I was bored with it, nearly uninstalled an hour into the game until I found this video. I was unaware of the depth of the combat system, now I'm sitting here practicing combos, something I've never done in a game before.
InfamousMyzt cool story. Glad you decided to give the game a second chance.
Please do. Games just released on Switch, and I need a dedicated video! :''''(
I learned quite a bit. Thank you
how do you counter block? im having trouble with enemies blocking or staggering me during a combo (not intercepted by other enemies)
I'm starting my climax run today and I hope your video helps me a lot, my biggest fear is still Rodin
Excellent video :3
Omh thx so much i really was baffled by dis. I think I understand now i just need to work on my afterburner kicks more
The most irreplaceable tutorial video in this game series.
Holy crap that was awesome!! O_O
Hi Yoshesque,
I've been watching many of your playthroughs and guides, and am practicing bayo. There are still two combos I can't understand and can't find anything on Google.
They are the 360 degree horizontal spinning kick with guns or kilgore (kkk can show similar result by seems like you have a more powerful shortcut), and the enemy step off of kilgore.
Do you mind sharing the command of these two movements?
Cheers!
Ben Hu The spinning kick is the bullet climax attack for the feet (rotate left stick + K) performed in the air. To do so, jump, then quickly perform the bullet climax. Very easy once you figure out the timing.
For enemy step: If you're near an enemy and press the jump button Bayonetta will jump off the enemy (this also resets the jump counter fyi). If you have guns equipped to your feet they will fire, so Scarborough Fair, Onyx Roses, Bazillions and Kilgore will each have a slightly different action associated with enemy step. Enemy step in this game is very generous, so you can experiment yourself by jumping on an Affinity with any of those weapons equipped to the feet.
NB: Kilgore will only fire every two or three steps (unsure off the top of my head, it's been ages since I played the game), unless you reset by landing on the ground. SF and Bazillions will fire on every enemy step. Not too sure about Onyx Roses, but I believe they fire on every step as well, otherwise, it's the same as Kilgore.
Hope that helps!
yoshesque Hey thanks so much! I finally grabbed it! Muak!
So looking forward to your new LPs!
After watching this video I feel like a complete loser. Just bought the game on the Switch a month ago and as much as I love the game it's extremely frustrating. Idk if I'll be able to pull any of this off but I'll practice this to see if I get any better at this combat (playing on normal)
GREAT video btw!
How to offset combos with "holes* in it with weapons like shuraba? But with holding and releasing?
Im gonna have to hit the lab it seems. This looks very cool and fun
Does using dodge offset as a move cancel just to get to the wicked weave part make the moves weaker or is it the same amount of damage ?
Cuz I dodge offset in a way that for the kick part of PKP, the kick does not even do the full animation and then I go for WW
Is it good ? Or should I just make sure that each move can be extended as much as it can be ?
There's no damage difference of the WW if you dodge offset to the WW part of a combo. Of course, you'll do more damage if you hit with each move in between, but that doesn't seem to be what you're asking about.
11:36 That Taunt mid-combo HOPY SHIP! So stylish!
This video changes the entire game :o
lol never learned how to do dodge offset even after beating the game on non-climax mode XD feelsbadman but ill try it now since you did a great job explaining it :)
Do you have a video comparing the combat system between Bayo 1 and 2?
Thanks for the video, looks like I'm hitting practice mode again! I'm just getting into this game after overlooking it for years and I totally suck at it. Currently stuck on my first playthrough at the two golden claw guys in chapter ten. >.
May I ask how you preform combos that have that light pause in them? In the move list they have a small dot in between them. Also how exactly does Combo scoring work? Do I have to chain my combos by never letting them end? If that's the case whats counted when I get my final score? My overall combo score or is the rating based on how much i was able to do keep together?
The easiest way of practicing the timing for pause combos is to use the guns. Say, for the PP-P combo, after the second punch, let the gun spin in her hand before continuing. As a general rule, if you let the gun spin before continuing you'll be able to do the combo. Of course, this doesn't work for kick combos, so that's just a matter of practicing.
As for combo scoring, I've got a video in the works for that, so just wait until then.
I don't stand a chance but, Thank you very much!!
This will definitely be useful once I get bayonetta
Amazing! And I'm trying to do something in this game with 4-5 hit combos.
HI there, this video was super helpful to me, so a lot of thanks for the video. however, I'm having a bit of problem with the animation cancels to get straight to the ww moves like you did one in 4:57(pppppk). is there a trick for animation cancels for a long combo that fast? cause I got the cancels as you did on 4:57 once accidentally(was kinda spamming rt and y and then b). cause it takes a lot of time for me to do that manually with accurate inputs! please help, a bit of explanation would be helpful!
Animation cancels are simply a matter of queuing up your inputs correctly. As long as the game recognises that you've hit the P or K button, you can offset the animation, regardless of whether you've actually started the animation at all. So, for instance, if you wanted to get straight to the K in PPPPPK, you would press P -> dodge -> P -> dodge -> P -> dodge -> P -> dodge -> P -> dodge -> K in quick succession. You do need to be fast and accurate to pull off moves like this. There is also an element of memorisation, because you have to remember where you are in the combo, but as I said in the video it all comes down to practice.
Hope that clears things up!
Is there any information you could give about weapon sets? Currently it would seem that guns are quite good (especially when dodging). Because I feel that my choice of weapons don't seem to work well enough at the heat of battle. Recommendations?
My A set in Bayo1: Kulshedra and Durga (mainly fire with that one).
My B set in Bayo1: Shuraba and Lt. Col. Kilgore.
I like to use Kulshedra to drag enemies to me or me to them (no need to run everywhere in battle) and I enjoy the high damage output of fire Durga (explosions!) also I'm pretty much prepared for angels on fire.
Shuraba's charge attack I like it's high damage output, the speed and range. Lt. Col. Kilgore has a high damage output even if enemies are a far.
Is there something wrong with my sets or am I just not using them right? :/
You can use pretty much any set you want as long as you're good enough. However I see two problems with your sets.
1) Fire Durga, Kilgore and charged Shuraba all do very high damage but don't give you a lot of combo points. These weapons are useful if there is one enemy that you need to kill really quickly, points be damned (like Joys at the end of verses) but I wouldn't recommend using them against everything, because you will most likely fail to reach the combo requirement.
2) None of your weapons shoot projectiles while dodge offsetting, which is useful you to keep your combo. This means that if enemies are far away you have to use the handgun button to shoot them and keep your combo going or be really quick with Kulshedra. I personally like to have at least some kind of weapon that shoots bullets while dodge offsetting (Scarborough Fair, Bazillions, Sai Fung etc.), it's a lot less stressful.
Overall I would recommend that you have at least one set with a quick, low-damage weapon that dodge offsets so that you will get a good combo. I myself tried playing with Shuraba and Kilgore before I learned how to dodge offset. Today I like to use Scarborough Fair the most because keeping your combo going is easy and playing with them looks great with Bayonetta's fighting/dance moves and bullets flying everywhere.
With normal Dodge Offsetting would negative-edging the attack button after the dodge (basically continuing to hold the attack button while in the dodge animation then releasing the attack button right after the animation into another attack button) work ?
+Nathanael Eugene No it wouldn't, the way I understand negative-edging is that releasing a button that was being pushed activates the attack instead of pressing it. However there is no way to punch, kick or create a wicked weave by releasing a button, it must be pushed.
Sure you can dodge and keep the attack button held down and run around for a while but then releasing the button won't activate an attack.
What you are describing sounds just like regular dodge offset, since to dodge offset you keep an attack button held down, dodge, release the button and then press an attack button again to continue the combo.
well now, so this is what Dodge Offset does. I must say, this is quite astounding. time to blow the dust of Bayonetta and see if i can't bump a few of those golds into platinums. would you happen to have any advice on how to wield the whip and odette effectivly, by the way?
The whip is mainly for battlefield control with lots of enemies (it's good for swinging enemies at other enemies and killing the swung-at enemies stupidly fast with lots of combo points); do this by knocking an enemy's armor partway off (as armor tends to block your whip attacks), then hold the punch button and pressing back on the control stick mid-hold. It's also good for staying in the air for long periods of time by holding punch while in the air near an enemy. It's good for those stupid air-manta ray things, since they're hard to hit otherwise, and it's good for flaming enemies, since you can hit them without being hurt.
A bit niche, but it shines when it's useful. It's especially great with Grace and Glory. Get them both grouped together after you've knocked the armor partly off of one, dodge for witch time, then do the lasso-swing on it to basically one-shot-kill the other one.
Oh, and the lasso-swing deflects projectiles by hitting the projectile with the enemy you're swinging around.
Haven't played with Odette, since I haven't gotten to that part of the game yet. (I just got the game a couple of days ago.)
What was that circle portal taunt you did at 12:34? How do you do that? Not the Moon parry--the thing right before that.
+PiesCanFly hold down the lock-on button
Do you have to hold down punch or kick the whole time you're doging, or does the button only need to be down when you press dodge? In other words, can you release punch or kick during the dodge animation?
Yes you can, just make sure you pressed dodge WHILE holding punch/kick.
thanks for the tips
YES AN AUZZIE QUEEN I LOVEEEE
7:55
That pause after "playing around with Sergey's Lover" XD
Oh XD