I can remember trainspotting back in the UK in the 1950s and we used to see these on the east midland and south yorkshire lines pulling heavy coal trains, they never looked as clean as this though, it's a beautiful sight to see a restored `Garrett` and going so well, thanks to all steam enthusiasts in oz and the uk.
used this line many times while in the british army 1960s the garretts where great to see being an x spotter our leave was spent in mombasa we were stationed at gil gil this time in kenya was pre independance
Whaaaaaat? That machine should be a national icon. And I live in SA! Admittedly I grew up beside the Illawarra Line apposite a level crossing when these things used to thunder past hauling coal trains.
And in the US as we speak, Union Pacific is rebuilding a Big Boy. It doesn't matter that it's a Big Boy, what matters is that it's being rebuilt by its original owner, a company that makes millions in profit each year rather than a government department that's now a shadow of its former self, or a museum. There is no chance the project will stall or the loco deemed too expensive to operate when its done.
In America when steam was being phased out some of them being cut up were 'BigBoys' of No more than ten--fifteen years old, barely run in, they were still in very good condition!!
In late 50s went on Garratt pulled train from Dar-es-salaam to Dodoma. At about 11pm, pulled into a siding to allow a good sleep, then off again in the early morning. Lovely engine, I think fired by wood. (kuni in sawhili.)
I remember her fondly from my years living in Canberra and working at the museum. Never got to see her run, knowing that she had neem sold, I thought that one day I will see steam into Melbourne.
In steam this weekend at Thirlmere (March 1st 2018) after a new long term operating and storage agreement was signed between the new owners, David Sommerville and Phil Davis and the Museum there. Another sign it will not go back to Canberra is the removal of the "City of Canberra" nameplates.....
I visited Dorrigo about 20 odd years ago, what I saw was an absolute discrace, I thought then somebody should step in and take all this and give it to some museum or society to preserve. I were taking photo's of the locos when this bloke came across the yard yelling his head off about me being on private property. The only other sign of life was someone on the roof of a carriage painting it with a paintbrush. they have I was told the only remaining silver city comet and it was hand painted. There is also a sherman tank there, what thats doing in a railway museum I'll never know. All the long gone railwaymen would turn over in their grave if they could see this mess cos thats all it was
I was on the delivery Run when in 1974 when was purchased by Labor Government at that time I was up on foot Plate a the time it very sad that Canberra Museum lost it after spending a small fortune on It but it is good two Steam Fans own with Rail Transport Museum Ian,
Beyer-Garratt 6029 had about three appearances at Maitland Steamfest, and at each appearance, on the Sunday, the old 6029 had to be withdrawn and replaced by a diesel loco for the last few runs of the day to Branxton.
@Brian Thomas: that which you saw with "with three bobbles on its top" at 1:30 was the water tank, immediately behind the coal tender. At 2:19 the diesel loco was brought up the the position behind the coal tender. at 3:04, passenger carriages were placed behind the coal tender with two diesel locos at the rear of the train. 6:09 the announcer got it wrong. The Beyer-Garratt is an "articulated" loco, it has effectively two engines joined together. The part that carries the number 6029 on the front is effectively the second engine, though how it is fueled is beyond my meagre understanding of steam loco engines. This video is made up from several clips, some shot on the same day and some shot on other days.
I went on her earlier this year. It was amazing. I have some videos as well which I also uploaded. (PS: it's REALLY loud. If you want to "experience" what I heard go on the beyyer Garratt departure on my channel, put it on full volume and hold the speaker next to your ear)
That noise at start is largely because they open the cylinder cocks to blow out any water that may have built up while stationary, so you've got steam blasting out of the cylinders on what are effectively TWO engines, one in front and the other behind the boiler/cab in the middle. For its size and power the Garratt is a surprisingly 'quiet' engine from outside when running normally.
Bryan, this was it's first run after recommissioning from overhaul, and the 44 was an insurance policy in case of failure. In other scenes the diesel on the rear allows the diesel to pull the returning out and back shuttle runs when the steamer cannot be turned or run around the train due to timetabling restraints, or a lack of rail infrastructure.
I see 6029 is up for sale as the Canberra ARHS is in "financial difficulties". At least this time there's very little danger of it going to the scrap yard...
EeBee51 the 6029 is staying in canberra now.. as the museum is up and running again.. but the old gal is having repairs before she heads out on full steam
this collection should be broken up and given to the likes of Thirlmere ect.The location is far to remote,even in the large cities finding enough volounteers to maintain a collection as large as this would be a problem. Its sad but its true
The only figure I can find for you is a tractive effort of 63000lb. What that relates to in horsepower, I'm sorry that I'm unable to help you Dallas. Much less than the US titans.
Thank ,s for trying my friend but I still love the old steam trains I was brought up with them and I would live to see a double header Beyer Garratt pulling the old Sunlander wagons from Brisbane to Cairns I think that it would be awesome
As was said, 63,000 lbs compared to around 135,000 lbs. The Big Boy and others of similar ilk had boilers and cylinders twice the size of a 60 class and just as importantly, twice the weight. A 60 weighs 264 tons while a Big Boy weighs 535 tons. That said, the 60 is the biggest loco of any description to ever run outside of North America (maybe just the US, don't know too much about Canadian steam).
I can remember trainspotting back in the UK in the 1950s and we used to see these on the east midland and south yorkshire lines pulling heavy coal trains, they never looked as clean as this though, it's a beautiful sight to see a restored `Garrett` and going so well, thanks to all steam enthusiasts in oz and the uk.
One of the greatest locomotives of all time!
What a beauty. You can tell a lot by the sound of the whistle. What a wonderful video.
What a locomotive what a whistle
used this line many times while in the british army 1960s the garretts where great to see being an x spotter our leave was spent in mombasa we were stationed at gil gil this time in kenya was pre independance
What a beautiful locomotive.
Whaaaaaat? That machine should be a national icon. And I live in SA! Admittedly I grew up beside the Illawarra Line apposite a level crossing when these things used to thunder past hauling coal trains.
Agree :-)
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Larrikins54 i also am from the illawarra and would love to see it head down to kiama and nowra
You mean like the Big Boy is to the US or the Flying Scotsman is to the UK? Sorry, but Australia doesn't do that.
I remember seeing 6014 dance down the line at Cumnock about 80 metres from my grandmother's back fence one summer
And in the US as we speak, Union Pacific is rebuilding a Big Boy. It doesn't matter that it's a Big Boy, what matters is that it's being rebuilt by its original owner, a company that makes millions in profit each year rather than a government department that's now a shadow of its former self, or a museum. There is no chance the project will stall or the loco deemed too expensive to operate when its done.
UP MADE 14 BILLION $ IN 2019. A WONDERFUL RR.
Would be nice to see one of the heavy workhorses that was made to conquer saluda (NS).
In America when steam was being phased out some of them being cut up were 'BigBoys' of No more than ten--fifteen years old, barely run in, they were still in very good condition!!
Except for the fact that UP had to stop running their 4-6-6-4 Challenger because running both was (surprise surprise) too expensive.
@@michaelglinski3809 One is better than none.
In late 50s went on Garratt pulled train from Dar-es-salaam to Dodoma. At about 11pm, pulled into a siding to allow a good sleep, then off again in the early morning. Lovely engine, I think fired by wood. (kuni in sawhili.)
Up the Ausies, beautiful
Congrats Canberra you have a beautifully restored Garratt steam engine there and it looks wonderful. Well done guys.
No longer in Canberra. The museum went bankrupt.
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Great collection of shots of 6029 over her short return to steam.
Sweet!! The whistle is reminiscent of an Espee desert style whistle.
And I would give my eye teeth to operate this beauty if only to fire it.
Interesting design
I remember her fondly from my years living in Canberra and working at the museum.
Never got to see her run, knowing that she had neem sold, I thought that one day I will see steam into Melbourne.
A Garrat howling in the distance.
She is now being operated by the NSW rail museum at Thirlmere. NSW
In steam this weekend at Thirlmere (March 1st 2018) after a new long term operating and storage agreement was signed between the new owners, David Sommerville and Phil Davis and the Museum there. Another sign it will not go back to Canberra is the removal of the "City of Canberra" nameplates.....
Great shots!!
Let’s hope this loco never gets left to rot at dorrigo
I visited Dorrigo about 20 odd years ago, what I saw was an absolute discrace, I thought then somebody should step in and take all this and give it to some museum or society to preserve. I were taking photo's of the locos when this bloke came across the yard yelling his head off about me being on private property. The only other sign of life was someone on the roof of a carriage painting it with a paintbrush. they have I was told the only remaining silver city comet and it was hand painted. There is also a sherman tank there, what thats doing in a railway museum I'll never know. All the long gone railwaymen would turn over in their grave if they could see this mess cos thats all it was
I was on the delivery Run when in 1974 when was purchased by Labor Government at that time I was up on foot Plate a the time it very sad that Canberra Museum lost it after spending a small fortune on It but it is good two Steam Fans own with Rail Transport Museum Ian,
Beyer-Garratt 6029 had about three appearances at Maitland Steamfest, and at each appearance, on the Sunday, the old 6029 had to be withdrawn and replaced by a diesel loco for the last few runs of the day to Branxton.
Oh I noted that 3016 had been repainted from royal blue to black. Spent many an hour polishing her brass dome. Sigh.
At 1min 30sec, the Beyer -Garratt had a black "tender" with three bobbles on its top. At 5min 30, that had disappeared - to where please?
@Brian Thomas: that which you saw with "with three bobbles on its top" at 1:30 was the water tank, immediately behind the coal tender. At 2:19 the diesel loco was brought up the the position behind the coal tender. at 3:04, passenger carriages were placed behind the coal tender with two diesel locos at the rear of the train. 6:09 the announcer got it wrong. The Beyer-Garratt is an "articulated" loco, it has effectively two engines joined together. The part that carries the number 6029 on the front is effectively the second engine, though how it is fueled is beyond my meagre understanding of steam loco engines. This video is made up from several clips, some shot on the same day and some shot on other days.
Why the diesels in the consist ???
Steam issue defiantly king no ifs or buts about it.
I went on her earlier this year. It was amazing. I have some videos as well which I also uploaded. (PS: it's REALLY loud. If you want to "experience" what I heard go on the beyyer Garratt departure on my channel, put it on full volume and hold the speaker next to your ear)
That noise at start is largely because they open the cylinder cocks to blow out any water that may have built up while stationary, so you've got steam blasting out of the cylinders on what are effectively TWO engines, one in front and the other behind the boiler/cab in the middle. For its size and power the Garratt is a surprisingly 'quiet' engine from outside when running normally.
Is it any wonder boys of all ages wanted to become train drivers ??? Fancy having control of so much raw power......
boys today only care about fortnite or whatever the fuck can entertain their 5 second memory span
Why does a massive loco like this need help from a diesel to pull 3 cars?
Bryan, this was it's first run after recommissioning from overhaul, and the 44 was an insurance policy in case of failure. In other scenes the diesel on the rear allows the diesel to pull the returning out and back shuttle runs when the steamer cannot be turned or run around the train due to timetabling restraints, or a lack of rail infrastructure.
"the 44 was an insurance policy in case of failure" Thank you for explaining!
I see 6029 is up for sale as the Canberra ARHS is in "financial difficulties". At least this time there's very little danger of it going to the scrap yard...
EeBee51 the 6029 is staying in canberra now.. as the museum is up and running again.. but the old gal is having repairs before she heads out on full steam
That's a relief :)
It must never get to dorrigo he already has 2 which will never run again by look of his sad effort so far
this collection should be broken up and given to the likes of Thirlmere ect.The location is far to remote,even in the large cities finding enough volounteers to maintain a collection as large as this would be a problem. Its sad but its true
Is it a 4-8-4 4-8-4 type ?
It is indeed Sir.
Great chime whistle on 6029-any details?
Mothballed at Thirlmere. Terrible outcome. So sad
I would like to no what the horse power it is compare to the yanks big boys
The only figure I can find for you is a tractive effort of 63000lb. What that relates to in horsepower, I'm sorry that I'm unable to help you Dallas. Much less than the US titans.
Thank ,s for trying my friend but I still love the old steam trains I was brought up with them and I would live to see a double header Beyer Garratt pulling the old Sunlander wagons from Brisbane to Cairns I think that it would be awesome
As was said, 63,000 lbs compared to around 135,000 lbs. The Big Boy and others of similar ilk had boilers and cylinders twice the size of a 60 class and just as importantly, twice the weight. A 60 weighs 264 tons while a Big Boy weighs 535 tons. That said, the 60 is the biggest loco of any description to ever run outside of North America (maybe just the US, don't know too much about Canadian steam).
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Not the most powerful, 59 class of east Africa. 83000 lbs tractive effort
@@nigelslade5276 I know that and I've always wondered why? How did they get an extra 20,000 lbs out of the 59?
Get RID of the POXY diesels, a Garrett steam locomotive has plenty of power, it does NOT need help from a damn diesel!!!!
Sadly we cannot go back, more’s the pity!
Beyer Garretts SUCK!
I've never seen that thing pull a REAL LOAD by itself! A waste of iron and steel!
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