"Not" Intellivision Amico Update: New Roadmap! Lawsuit Update!
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I think everyone's being too hard on these guys. It's not like they had over $17M to work with. Oh, wait...
The first rule of Amico Club is to never speak about the Amico Club.
The second rule...
I think the Amico is almost ready! They're on the launchpad, but they just need a little more fuel to take off! Mark your calendars for 10/10/2020!
In rocketry terms, this rocket launch has been scrubbed multiple times. One time it was because a woodpecker pecked a hole in the external launch tank.
Marked and pre ordered. 😂😂😂
Thanks for continuing to track this debacle!
They've turned the battered horse corpse into a ventriloquist dummy...
I agree that it looks like they're taking the last steps to stuff as much as they can in their pockets before they close it down
I'm fairly certain that Atari got the Intellivision stuff for a song, because Not-Intellivision Entertainment seems to be in worse shape than before the sale. Though I'm sure a certain pair of morons will be galloping along shortly to declare that "The Amico doesn't *need* a controller to succeed, because in many ways a phone is better than a controller!" Perhaps one of them will muse that "Hey! At least the Amico HAS an official Discord! So what if you can't talk about anything there! The Switch doesn't have one at all!" You see, not having any new games or a console or controllers, a place to even ask informed questions or even the very IP the entire system was founded upon is all part of the "human experience" that they're selling!
In "worse shape"? Where's your source on this?
Home was always a beta project. Still is.
The Amico Discord is run the way it is because, after Tommy's experience, it was decided (and pretty much proven) that opinions like yours are not welcome and not productive.
As per branding, they still have the Blue Sky Rangers, still have the rights to an "Intellivision based" console, and still can have "Intellivision games" on Amico produced by Atari.
Oh, and BTW, AFAIC, BSR = Intellivision.
I love how you try and mock the "human experience" because you know it kills all your arguments about Amico's market.
@@PuzZLeR_00 What market? The people waiting on the controllers which are no longer slated for development? The people who are in this for the nostalgia of the Intellivision brand that Atari now owns? The people still holding out hope for a refund? The people who finally had enough and walked away?
If the "human experience" is the best thing that Amico can sell you on, it's in a lot of trouble. A lot of things out there in the world are currently competing to make your experience things as a human. Many include, talking to other humans. Or consuming human food.
So many experiences in my life that have made me say, at least in my mind, "Wow, this is what I call being a human".
@@PuzZLeR_00I'm impressed by your optimism but I haven't seen anything to make me believe Amico has a revenue stream to support success
@@retroxcellence5186 Its not optimism, its copium. Every time something doesn't work out for the Amico the way Puzzler predicted, he changes the narrative. Before he finally threw up his hands and acknowledged that IE were incompetent, he was running all kinds of excuses for them like "Low sales numbers of the games don't mean anything!" and "They don't need a console to be successful!"
I think you're spot on. They will fold before their next convertible note debt instruments mature in December.
Probably. That would explain why the controller has disappeared from the forecast altogether. They know there's no point.
He forgot to put on bankrupcy!
Cant wait to be invited to "The 600 years of experience bankruptcy extravaganza party!"
I'm gonna call them Amico land. They're gonna team up with Pastry land and Indie land you watch.
Pretty sure Blaze (Evercade company) only has a few employees, unlike Not-Intellivision, which was top-heavy with a Vice President for everything. It’s really laughable how Amico seems like a scam at worst, incompetent at best.
Blaze had a clear goal from day one: Make an affordable system for people who want physical games. There's no connecting to the internet for DRM checks, lengthy installs or patches. Pop the cartridge in, pick what game you want to play. That's an itch that definitely needed scratched.
What a disaster. These guys paid themselves 6 figures, took exotic vacations, rented the CFO's office space , which was rumored to be 220k yearly rent, and produced no console. THEY TOOK THE MONEY!
Yup! The Amico saga is a perfect example of how not to design and market a product. Even the Ouya did better than this.
I think your estimate about what is happening is a good one, NSG.
BTW do you have someone feeding you info and screenshots from the 'secret' Amico Discord?
It has been shared often, like on the sub reddit I showed.
@@thenosweargamer1449 Got it, makes sense, thanks
@@SoulBlazer08anyone can join it. I'm in it for the lols.
Holy crap I can’t believe there’s anybody still talking about this mess, my youngest was still in elementary school when this whole thing started and has now graduated high school. Ridiculous that anyone thinks this roadmap means anything and what kind of bonehead would want to be a part of the private discord unless they are suckers for punishment 😂
What cracks me up is that the Roadmap no longer has *any* hardware on it, and all of the remaining games have been shoved to "I dunno...eventually!" This was the company that was going to "disrupt" the industry.
its basically a roadmap for a dead end street.
Good video! Thank You! for keeping us up to date on this everchanging subject matter!
Now John Alvarado is saying that he left the controllers off the map, because there is no way to get them into production this year, and he wants to focus on things he actually has control over! *EL* *OH* *EL* John is Phil Adam's right hand man. He's the guy who is in control over the whole shebang. If the injection of cash from the Atari deal didn't give them the money to finish the controllers, where's the money gonna come from? Certainly not Amico Home games.
You can always trust the UK !!!
Atari most likely bought it the same way Nexstar bought the CW network from Warner Bros./Discovery which was $0 plus all the debt CW owed (>$100mil), or maybe a little more who's to say. Shoot you have no console, mountains of debt from reckless spending, crowd funding investors demanding a refund, lawsuits, etc.. It'd make since to off load it ASAP, and slink away from the dumpster fire nonchalantly into the shadows. Update: I read the CW sell articles nearly 2 years ago I tried to reread it after SoulBlazer08's Comment, but I posted a reply to it with some clarifications/corrections. That sell was even worse BTW.😏
Sorry, don't mean to nitpick, but your not legally allowed to sell something for nothing. You have to sell it for at least a $1, to make it a 'legal' transaction and have money changes hands, per the rules. Still, I think your right about how that's Atari got the rights -- pay a $1 and agree to take on some/all debt.
And that debt would NOT include investors or crowd funding, since that falls into a different category of 'debt'.
@@SoulBlazer08 Well I read the news about it nearly 2 years ago so I tried to reread it, and from multiple sources. However I can only read the Hollywood Reporter version due to the others I read from the past now have a pay wall system. In the Hollywood Reporter article it states that WBD gave Nextar $54m. They (HR) say that it's exact amount of the debt owed by CW (that's according to them though other news sites said it was over $100m) to take that turd of a network off from WBD's hands (which is worst actually). So Nexstar got the network for $0 period (the money given to them went to pay off CW's debt) So WBD not only made $0 from it they still lost $54m (maybe $100M) to stop the continual bleeding out of money.
LING LIVE THE EVERCADE !!!
This thing will never die and go away. I mean it was basically dead on arrival, but it's hard to believe people are still trying to push this vaperware.
My main 2 questions are how they are dealing with those refunds for preorders, and how they are going to deal with Sudesh.
They're dealing with both of those problems the same way: Hiding and hoping everyone they owe money to forgets.
Just give it up.
Who still didn't get their money back???
I never put any in. These Kickstarters rarely, if ever, work out. I just had a bowl of popcorn and a cold Diet Coke on had... waiting for the drama to unfold. I want a Hulu or Netflix series (something in the vein of Drop Out) of this whole debacle. Frank Grillo would be a perfect Tommy Talerico! Someone make this happen!!!
There are still pre-order customers who asked for deposit refunds that never got them. In addition, according to the SEC documentation from the Start Engine campaign, they owed quite a bit of debt, including to board members, and probably owe some money to investors from the sale of games and game properties. And if the Amico never launches, they should refund all pre-order deposits and physical "game" purchases, but that is unlikely to happen.
All Blaze had to do was just mfg a suped up Game Boy. Hardware and emulators were easily established. They didn't have to make their own games either. Comparisons to Amico are rather unfair.
As per the Amico Discord, where did anyone get the impression that it's a democracy? Looks like Tommy spoiled anti-Amico folk too much, and now they expect to waste John's time too. 🤣🤣🤣
You’re right, it’s not a fair comparison… for Blaze. Because they’ve 1) actually put out the products they advertised 2) followed their roadmap 3) didn’t steal money and 4) don’t have a CEO that makes sexual comments to people while acting as the public face of a “family friendly” company.
Call the Evercade whatever you want, but Blaze actually delivered what they advertised and didn't pick fights with their detractors or potential competitors. Amazing what a small start up can accomplish when the people running it are actually competent and focused!
From an A/V Sales Engineer perspective…is TommIE still in the most favorable position within the videogame business landscape or have these most recent setbacks caused you to rethink that opinion?
@@Jersey28 "You're right".. Thank you.
If Blaze had to mfg a console from scratch instead of put together components of 30+ year old tech, AND had to actually make full games (from scratch too), I don't think you can legitimately say they would have fared nearly as well as they did on your, albiet grossly exaggerated, 4 points either.
@@SomeOrangeCat I remain with my comments. When I call the Evercade a "Suped up Game Boy" I mean it.
That's all Blaze had to do - put together established hardware from the early 90s with an emulator for it to play 30-45 year old ready made ROMs...
Wow. I could be competent too putting together something many retro Gamers already have in their setups.
Not to say Blaze didn't do well, and not to say there isn't a market for the Evercade - both are true, but, we will never know just how competent a company like Blaze is when it comes to doing something lots, lots more demanding like Amico. Never.