@@bertroost1675if she's in Manchester yeah, But of course that goes for anywhere in the world where you have someone speaking something other than the regional norm
I find it unbelievable that such a dull-colored, formulaic painting is worth 15,000. But one clue that it was once considered a big deal is the obvious expensiveness of its frame. (Ten to one the onlookers, so quiet and concentrating, are family of the owner.)
I kept thinking that boy to the left that kept leaning around the painting was going to knock the painting off the stand. They really should keep the public back at least a few feet.
@DuncanMcintyre-jk3qb .....could buy a bedsit for 15k in Dundee around 1991........now selling for £65k...............PS. - My earnings a year in 91 were approx £15k a year.........and by 1998 were £25k a year and by 2005 i was on £90k a year ..........then economy went to shite around 2009 and hasnt recovered.....doubt it ever will.
My god the comments here are hilarious. The crowds gathered round these Antiques Roadshow videos are as interesting as the crowds gathered round the appraisals. I mean that in the absolute best sense. I lol'd my way thru the comments on this one.
He does seem to have quite a range of values on his works doesn't he? I see a couple of the 60-70k range but a lot more in the few thousands area. Probably out of fashion at the moment as that sort of pastoral/bucolic style was more sought after in the 70's
Past market valuations have relevance to current ones - that's how the entire antique sector works. Also, this is not a "current valuation" channel - it's just interesting older content from AR.
Especially if it was taken to a professional fine art restorer and cleaned. But this was probably 20 years ago by the way they are dressed, so the valuation would certainly be greater now. I love the Dutch painters and was once fortunate to view two original Bruegel paintings at a friend’s penthouse in Manhattan. 😊
@@Gigi-14 It was special and touching to see three generations. I have no appreciation for modern art. If you can't tell if it's upside down then it just a mess. LOL
@@mus139 That's not quite right because what has changed is the value of the pound sterling since 1991. £15k in 1991 would have the purchasing power of £33k in 2024. The painting might not intrinsically be worth more or less, but it might cost you more now to purchase the painting due to inflation.
I feel like the main painting is super under valued. Even some basic paintings by unknown artists these days fetch 10-15K. This is a 17th century painting so should more like 1-200K for the right collector.
Many ceramic objects are a lot less valuable than you might assume, even if they are centuries old. I used to be a ceramics curator and even I can't really explain it other than it perhaps being class based. Jewellery, furniture and paintings were the purview of the upper echelons of society and were more likely to have brand/celebrity attachments than ceramics which, no matter how fine, were much more common-place.
Nothing on British Antiques Roadshow is worth a thing. "Oh my! What a treasure! I'm glad I've lived long enough to appraise an item of this rarity and beauty! It's worth 20 quid."
Wyndham: 'This really is a prime example of Dutch genre painting of the 17th century, with workmanlike brushstrokes by a pupil of that great Old Master, Quiche - the brother of Claude Lorrain. This figure just here is particuleh well-painted whereas the rendering of some other areas (like the cattle and the water) are clearly truly dreadful. It is, of course, not helped at all by its disgustingleh dirteh condition ...' Owner, with cut-glass accent: 'Cut the crep, son-eh - what's it worth? And don't try to short-change meh, do you hear? Eh, eh?''
CLICKBATE. Title misleading. Yes, it was an UNBELIEVABLE value at a massive £15,000. With that title, I thought it would go into several Hundreds of Thousands.
Wrong! It has no value at all unless and until someone is willing to pay for it. THEN, we’ll know it’s value. These Roadshow hosts can put any figure on a piece they want. It makes for good TV. But, that doesn’t set a market value.
Believe me, I have no trouble believing it would be worth 15,000 pounds. I have quite a lot more trouble believing that the reputable Antiques Roadshow would have anything to do with such trashy clickbait as this UA-cam.
No, its not a misleading title.
It is unbelievably worth much, Much less than everyone thought.
Remember, this is just his estimate. It could go for many times that. Don’t be a smart ass.
I’m enjoying watching the young gentleman in the background !😄
Valuer: I've got a posh accent
Owner: Mine is posher than yours
Valuer: Gosh, so it is
Owner: but I still insist on a free valuation and I will cart my painting anywhere to get one.
Is it an "accent" when it is original?
@@bertroost1675if she's in Manchester yeah, But of course that goes for anywhere in the world where you have someone speaking something other than the regional norm
Fuk aff how that for an accent
He's Henry Wyndham, former Chairman of Sotheby's Europe (true). She was HM Queen Elizabeth II's elocution teacher! 😃
I find it unbelievable that such a dull-colored, formulaic painting is worth 15,000. But one clue that it was once considered a big deal is the obvious expensiveness of its frame. (Ten to one the onlookers, so quiet and concentrating, are family of the owner.)
I kept thinking that boy to the left that kept leaning around the painting was going to knock the painting off the stand. They really should keep the public back at least a few feet.
yeah we don't want kids thinking they can be included! He was fine. Let him be.
Perhaps he was with the lady owner - maybe her grandson. She didn’t seem to mind him being there.
The expert here is Henry Wyndham, former Chairman of Sotheby's Europe, who used to be something of a regular on the show.
In 1991 £15000+ would have bought half a one bedroom flat/apartment in Edinburgh (close to centre) just for reference currently more than £150,000
Half a one bedroom flat? What's that!? Property prices have increased a lot but wages are much the same. £15,000 wasn't that much.
@@pigeonlove cost of a one bedroom flat in sw leith in 1994 was fixed price ( astounding really ) £30,000 -I know cos I bought one
@DuncanMcintyre-jk3qb .....could buy a bedsit for 15k in Dundee around 1991........now selling for £65k...............PS. - My earnings a year in 91 were approx £15k a year.........and by 1998 were £25k a year and by 2005 i was on £90k a year ..........then economy went to shite around 2009 and hasnt recovered.....doubt it ever will.
Thank you for putting up the value and ruining the watching for everyone. 👏👏👏
@@DuncanMcintyre-jk3qb well, I suppose our experiences of life are different. Good for you.
It's a neat look into the past with the clips. Thanks for the uploads.
The look on her face when he tells her that her painting is dirty and how little it's worth. 🤣
this was more than 30 years ago, wonder what the painting is worth now.
That's about $40,000 today.
She probably came thinking her painting was worth 15 million
Question of whether it is an "unbelievable" amount: no. Still a substantial amount, yes.
Some of these short clips are 20 years old. I imagine the value of the pound has gone quite a bit over the years.
@@kathleensue1 closer to 30 years old but yes, the hyperbole is strong in these clickbait titles
This clip was filmed in Whitehaven in 1991.
@@kathleensue1 The value of the pound has fallen. You need more of them to buy the same thing.
The title of this video is unbelievable 😢
My god the comments here are hilarious. The crowds gathered round these Antiques Roadshow videos are as interesting as the crowds gathered round the appraisals. I mean that in the absolute best sense. I lol'd my way thru the comments on this one.
An unbelievable amount made me think £3m + !!!
This is from 1991, so 15£ was a lot.
@@MareShoop £32,835.55 is the value today in 2023.
He had a new painting put at the end of his bed every day to look at, it was a different time
At 12:01 a.m. the servants hear the distant tinkle of a bell
1:32 : And that's why they were called 'Italianisanten'.
And it is also why their paintings have a similar look and feel to it.
What's unbelievable is that I fell forte title.
Unbelievable !!
I wouls love to see the painting once it has been cleaned.
The painting HERMAN VAN SWANEVELT| A landscape with figures among ancient ruins sold at auction this year for £15,000GBP
He does seem to have quite a range of values on his works doesn't he? I see a couple of the 60-70k range but a lot more in the few thousands area. Probably out of fashion at the moment as that sort of pastoral/bucolic style was more sought after in the 70's
Why do they caption 15K as "unbelievable value?" I'd expect the same price and headline at a Volkswagen dealership.
1991 - 15K then is not 15K now!
@@tinymotogarage ahh yes how silly of us to forget that this video was uploaded in 1991
@@onestepfromsuccess Sometimes it makes sense to read the description to be a little better informed.
They were blunter back then. “This bit of the painting is crap, the cows are weak and it’s been kept in a very dirty home.”
Hardly a life changing amount 😂
Wow! 15k. Whoop dee doo!
I have no trouble believing that this is £15K
Lovely bit of sarc, there. Agreed.
Imagine having those tiles in your house and ripping them out
"People actually talked like that Fam"
That painting looks very familiar. I'm pretty sure I've seen prints of it elsewhere.
I was thinking exactly the same...or I've watched these kind of videos on Saturday nights perhaps
Maybe just because there are dozens and dozens of virtually the same scene by dozens of artists.
Rick from Pawn Stars: I'll give ya 20 bucks.
And a kiss on the cheek.
I enjoyed his critique of the painting...especially the hint of poor stewardship.
It could do with a professional cleaning
Get that painting to Julian Baumgartner for restoration.
First recorded 1991 - thirty-two years ago! What relevance has this got to do with today's interest and market?
Past market valuations have relevance to current ones - that's how the entire antique sector works. Also, this is not a "current valuation" channel - it's just interesting older content from AR.
I come from Surrey and have a PhD but wish I could speak like that. I wouldn't be so poor.
Actually I believe the landscape portrait was cheaply priced and would have expected it to be more valuable.
Especially if it was taken to a professional fine art restorer and cleaned. But this was probably 20 years ago by the way they are dressed, so the valuation would certainly be greater now. I love the Dutch painters and was once fortunate to view two original Bruegel paintings at a friend’s penthouse in Manhattan. 😊
@@Gigi-14 This was filmed in 1991, so 32 years ago.
@@Gigi-14 It was special and touching to see three generations. I have no appreciation for modern art. If you can't tell if it's upside down then it just a mess. LOL
The painting is about 200 years old, I doubt another 32 years would up the Value?@@swebruh
@@mus139 That's not quite right because what has changed is the value of the pound sterling since 1991. £15k in 1991 would have the purchasing power of £33k in 2024. The painting might not intrinsically be worth more or less, but it might cost you more now to purchase the painting due to inflation.
'In excess of 15 thousand pounds. Or possibly more...' Erm...
£15,000 is quite reasonable.
Can anyone translate what the old lady said?
Blblblbmunicmumble mumble
She was speaking English!!...Not the dialogue you speak.
When you say "unbelievable value", I'm thinking more like enough to instantly go home and quit your job.
Henry Wyndham: 'Unbelievable value for such a poorly-kept, genre painting'.
She's very powsh! 😜
Good morning everyone
What is unbelievable is the ludicrous hyperbole employed by clickbait youtubes.
I feel like the main painting is super under valued. Even some basic paintings by unknown artists these days fetch 10-15K. This is a 17th century painting so should more like 1-200K for the right collector.
The tiles are very rare but only worth £100 each?
Many ceramic objects are a lot less valuable than you might assume, even if they are centuries old. I used to be a ceramics curator and even I can't really explain it other than it perhaps being class based. Jewellery, furniture and paintings were the purview of the upper echelons of society and were more likely to have brand/celebrity attachments than ceramics which, no matter how fine, were much more common-place.
Where are the parents of the little chuff next to the picture?
Wouldn't call it unbelievable value even for 1991.
Misleading title
No it's not a misleading title.
It is unbelievably worth much, much less than everyone thought.
Nothing on British Antiques Roadshow is worth a thing. "Oh my! What a treasure! I'm glad I've lived long enough to appraise an item of this rarity and beauty! It's worth 20 quid."
Yeah, a painting worth more than a new car back then is just worthless, right?
@@maxanderson8259Brilliant
She's wound up so tight I'm afraid the elastic might snap.
Really! It's so British it's uncanny
Is uncanny the right word?
More Antiques Roadshow click bait.
She pretended to speak like the Queen just for £15k 😂
Snobbery at it's worst 🙂
That kid is making me nervous.
She probably had cushions worth more than 15 grand.
Wyndham: 'This really is a prime example of Dutch genre painting of the 17th century, with workmanlike brushstrokes by a pupil of that great Old Master, Quiche - the brother of Claude Lorrain. This figure just here is particuleh well-painted whereas the rendering of some other areas (like the cattle and the water) are clearly truly dreadful. It is, of course, not helped at all by its disgustingleh dirteh condition ...' Owner, with cut-glass accent: 'Cut the crep, son-eh - what's it worth? And don't try to short-change meh, do you hear? Eh, eh?''
CLICKBATE.
Title misleading.
Yes, it was an UNBELIEVABLE value at a massive £15,000.
With that title, I thought it would go into several Hundreds of Thousands.
im from the US can get subtitles on these please😊
Bull malarkey. I’ll be more careful next tim
Cant trust the BBC to give accurate headlines
BBC using clickbait headlines ?
Just about a pair of good soccer shoes
“This panting has an unbelievable value!!!!!”
….30 pounds- Antiques road show UK….
Unbelievably low that is...
Ooh I say, la dee da
100 yars. Ha ha a lost era
It's not "Unbelievable"
Wrong! It has no value at all unless and until someone is willing to pay for it. THEN, we’ll know it’s value. These Roadshow hosts can put any figure on a piece they want. It makes for good TV. But, that doesn’t set a market value.
what an ignorant comment. tell that to christies and sothebys fool.
33 years ago and everything (Speech, clothes, manner, hair) looks ludicrously dated. What will they make of us in 2057?
I don't find the value of the painting "unbelievable."
Click bait
Believe me, I have no trouble believing it would be worth 15,000 pounds. I have quite a lot more trouble believing that the reputable Antiques Roadshow would have anything to do with such trashy clickbait as this UA-cam.
First one £15,000 second one £2,000 yawn NEXT
Unbelievable, huh. Talk about clickbait.
How is 15 grand 'unbelievable'?
This clip was from more than 30 years ago. That painting is probably worth 10 times that now.
An 'unbelievably' low valuation.
Listen to her absolutely snobbish voice:-)
Posh!
God I'm posh
She looks SO English. That is not a compliment.
BBC clickbait! 😖
Not a very interesting or attractive painting. Very plain and boring.