Among the more intense acting scenes in movie history - really sensational. Pacino is at his absolute apex here, but Diana Keaton is underrated in the scene and doesn't back down.
@@Comictalent I think Diane deserved at least an Oscar nomination for Best supporting actress. (If Talia got nominated for that as Connie, why not Diane as Kay?)
@@frostylunetta I don't know how they decide to award oscars to. It often seems very unfair that stars who deserve an oscar, don't get one. Kay's part in the film was sad. Michael travels to Sicily, falls deeply in love with a beautiful girl and marries her. Kay waits for him and he eventually comes back. That sort of thing does happen in reality and whilst Michael loved Kay and was very happy with her, he loved the Sicilian girl more deeply. It's only a film I know but I hated the scene where the car was blown up with the young wife in it
@@frostylunetta I agree - Keaton was awesome in GF2. You could argue that the entire main cast should've been nominated. I'm still blown away that Cazalle (Fredo) & Duvall (Hagen) weren't nominated - seems impossible. There were 5 acting nominations and should've been 8. I've never seen a better ensemble.
I think Kay's biggest struggle is that when she made the choice to marry Michael she thought she could change him back into the man that she fell in love with.....
She wasn't trying to change him. She was trying to get away from him. But Michael repeatedly lies to her about his involvement in the family business. He says within 5 years the business will be legitimate. He manipulates her into marrying him. Once she had a child, she was trapped. I have no sympathy for Michael in this situation.
@@ohio But at that point he wasn't lying. But he transforms over the course of the films.... sinking into darker and darker places. Look at what Don Vito says in the openning of Godfather 1 -- he foregives the guy for going to the police. He says don't kill the thugs. He has ethics. Michael kills his own brother for crossing him. Would Don Vito have done that?
@@Karlebow571 It was art carney for one of the most forgettable performances ever. The only reason pacino lost and carney won was because, art carney was already a well established actor and al pacino was pretty much unknown.
Difference is Vito embraced the life, Michael never wanted to be a part of it but had no choice. It was a neccessary evil that tormented his soul. Don't forget the goal was to ultimately go legit. "We'll get there Pop."
And Vito had a sicilian wife, while Michael had an American wife. Its a complete opposite. Just compare Kay to Appolonia / Vitos wife (pardon i forgot her name)
Agree, it shows the children are innocent, know nothing about problems between their father and mother. They only know that both of their parents are not in peace
He never smiled again after Sonny and Apolloenia died smh. Then again, he gave a melancholy smirk when he was talking to his father in the garden about his son being three, and already knowing how to read the funny papers.
@@renzopeterson153 also rarely smiled after jus father was shot. Clemenza, who Michael always seemed closer to, managed to get a smirk out of him when teaching him to make sauce.
I wonder how many takes did they do this? The emotion was so raw and explosive, I can't see them doing this many times: it would wear them out. As a former actor I think about this, they have to go to places within that are painful to make this real.
My name is Karl.I just watched the scene at 5:21,and the rage building up.He is about to explode.I have seen this part before on Television years ago,and I believe in the trailer back in the 1970's.She was right about one thing,something was brought to an end...their Marriage.
I was gonna comment the same thing. Acting isn’t as hard as people think. All you have to do is genuinely invest in what your character feels for certain situations, then makes those emotions a reality.
Pacino is great throughout the monologue. Look at his faces: at 4:51, he's confused and shocked, like he wasn't sure what he just heard. At 5:03 it sinks in, and he looks like he's about to vomit. Finally at 5:21, he's ready to choke her the f out.
I know, she just told this Sicilian, Roman Catholic man that she aborted his son. When I first saw this when it came out, I was like OMG he's going to kill her!
There’s a deleted scene about this but Mike wouldn’t have her killed. He loved Kay too much to even consider it. Tom also explains it in the movie based off on a scene with Kay from the book. Tom straight up tells Kay she would be a widow if Michael doesn’t do what he does.
She did. It's spelled out in the novel. At the end of the first novel, she understood Michael lied to her when everyone was calling him Don and Godfather (the point when the movie ends). She starts crying in the kitchen and takes her kids to Hanover, New Hampshire to live with her parents. Michael then sends Tom Hagen to bring her back. He tells her the truth of what had happened (the killing of Carlo Rizzi) and that he would be killed if Michael had known what he had told her. She then comes back, converts to Catholicism (from Protestantism) and goes to church every day to pray for Michael's soul, just like Michael's mother did for for his father.
FN 2187 How funny is it that George Lucas actually even made the montage sequence for the original coz Francis couldnt do right, then messed up emulating francis with Vader
TOTCD in the books is implied that he did love apollonia but after she died he settled for kay. he did care for her but was never in love as how he felt for apollonia, also after her death, michael changed into the ruthless don corleone, he would have been much like his father as don if her would still be alive
I remember seeing this as a kid and being TERRIFIED of Michael. That look of pure rage and that very abrupt shouting reminded me of my own father, and the fights my parents would get in. Even now I get goosebumps. A dangerous, vengeful man.
Diane Keaton’s acting in this scene is phenomenal. Even though we follow Michael’s story from beginning to end, in one scene she makes us feel all the pain and fear Kay has accumulated.
The problem I have with Keaton's character, is that, she is supposed to be this intelligent rather hip ~WASP American woman, but look, she knew he was from a mobster family all along and this ridiculous woman let herself fall in love with a mobster presuming Michael would never behave like a mobster! I mean, WTF was she thinking! It just seems so fitting how women never take responsibility for anything bad that they do.
And just think: he was young and barley did any acting! They were kids, ALL OF THEM! They played around in between shots! The studio demanded he be fired, Coppala put his name on the line for Al! It's truly, truly amazing the way like can, and can not, go.....
5:23 that was just brilliant emotional acting. Without saying a single word you see how much his hate grew by the millisecond and those eye... Oh my god those eyes. It scared the crap out of me
Its the trembling chin of anger. Barely said a word but his face says it all. The metaphor is she aborted their second son, and then he killed his fathers second son
Yep, I think he's a complete natural...in a matter of seconds we see him go from optimistic, to complete despair and then pure rage all without saying a single word.
Tony D to be historically accurate, the whole 'mafia' thing started in Italy after the unification of the country in 1871, so only 150 years ago. Two thousand years ago we still had the Roman Empire. You'd think a teacher should know this. But not a wasp teacher.
@@barb7084 @Barb 708 Brava. Its true and not many people understand. Italy is very ancient, but the "unified" country itself is very young, younger than the USA. They use words like unification but it was a conquering of the Kingdom of Two Sicilies by northern states around Milano. At the time the Kingdom of Two Sicilies was richer and after they were conquered all the wealth was redistributed to the north. This coincides exactly with the first Italian migration to the USA and the rise of the mafia. To this day Italy is very much divided between north and south. I live in the south and when you travel to the north it is like a different country. They speak differently and are more European than what I consider Italian. They look down on people from the south because it is the agricultural center and farm based economy, whereas the north is industrious.
@@barb7084 That's true. Prior to the 1800s Italy was a divided nation going all the way back to the fall of the Roman Empire. Before the reunification, the seat of power in the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany.
I love how Kay's eyebrows shift slightly after Michael says "I know you blame me for losing the baby." Actually, I love pretty much all the acting in this scene. How Pacino didn't get an Oscar for this movie is beyond me.
Those eyes that Al was making when she said "it was an abortion". I felt the his anger and his hate, truly felt that. Al Pacino is one of the best actors out there
Pacino not getting an Oscar for this should have stripped the academy of all credibility, and Keaton could have easily been nominated for Supporting Actress amazing performance by her aswell
+Vivek Kumar Not really. IMAGINE YOU ARE A RESPECTED MAFIA BOSS. How would you react if you learned that your wife murdered your own child, the son you so desired, just because of some stupid notion of "love, fairies, sunshine", just because she couldn't empathize with the position you were in (this, atleast from Michael's perspective). Rather, I give Michael Corleone credit for not ordering the torture and execution of his wife. Tony Montana would have gone Luca Brasi on her.
Gaurab Chatterjee No, the child was aborted not because of those fairytale expectations but because she doesn't want to extend the "criminal" Corleone family by giving it more heirs. What you would do is up to you to decide but I feel Micheal has committed a mistake. If he didn't want to change his track, he shouldn't have made false promises to Kay before marriage.
Vivek Kumar "What you would do is up to you to decide " Please read my comment carefully. Its not my perspective, but Michael's I'm talking. And considering Michael could easily have her killed for this,given how angry he was, he did show remarkable restraint. No real life Mafioso's spouse would ever dare abort his child without his permission. The consequences of that are all too obvious.
"In time...you'll feel differently" That line dude, it always makes my stomach turn a bit, I think it perfectly encapsulates a passive but abusive toxic relationship
@Melinda GDW everything is. Michael may have done everything to protect kay and his family, but never once did he ever consider her feelings at all. He kept feeding her with empty promises that things will change, only doing things what he thinks is right. Kay is no saint, but at least i can understand how she could feel suffocated being in a relationship with michael.
@Melinda GDW yea i think we may have different perspectives of what makes relationships count as abusive. But i think we can both agree that michael and kay was not a healthy relationship and both of them are better off without each other.
@Melinda GDW Michael did everything but protect his family. He put his family in danger. Killers shooted on their house because of Michael's criminal activities. He first wanted to be different than his father and brothers but he became worst. Kay believed him when he asked her to marry him and that he would make the family's business legal. And he failed. So she leaved.
Michael’s face when Kay tells him it was a son and she had it killed is truly the most terrifying facial expression you’ll ever see in movie history. He’s calm on the outside but his soul is screaming with pure rage!
Kay's way of acting is very "intelligent"... telling an ultra-conservative Roman Catholic husband that she voluntarily aborted their child. She was lucky that Michael only slapped her and not gave her a severe beating like Sonny gave Carlo.
@@rexxtank8165Always found it weird how these “ultra-conservative Roman Catholics” have no qualms about deliberately breaking several of the 10 commandments for a living.
No matter how many times I see this scene it always takes my breath away. When Kay says she had an abortion all I can think is how much she hated Michael by this point. Amazing scene.
He provides for his family by any means necessary, your kids are well looked after but because of how you feel? Her son lackes ambition and her daughter makes out with her cousin, guess it's an AMERICAN THING, HUH
"You're my wife. They're my children. I love you, and I won't allow it." That particular line, even though it's heard from behind closed doors, conveys so much about Michael and his beliefs. He's trying to be sincere, to convey his love for Kay and the children, but ending it with "I won't allow it" shows that he doesn't truly want Kay to stay out of love. He wants her to stay because getting divorced isn't acceptable in his culture; it would reflect poorly on a Don for that to happen.
Michael is also a man used to people obeying him, to have control over everything so of course it shown in his personal life. To be fair though, "I won't allow it" strikes me as the spontanuous words of any spouse (man of woman) when confronted to a spouse who treathens to leave with their children.
Uh, you're reaching. He could actually mean it. How exactly does _"I won't allow it"_ prove otherwise? If he had said _"I won't let you walk away or I won't let that happen"_ would that make it seem more lovey dovey and emotional for you? They both mean the same thing... Nice try at being analytical
Michael lost all control at this point. His brother has betrayed him and his wife has turned against him. The rest of the world hate him and only do what he says out of fear. There is no genuine love or respect
Jabba Hut Yes it is. In my opinion Al’s portrayal of Michael Corleone and Bryan Cranston’s portrayal of Walter White are the 2 best performances In history
It's such a rare thing to see a movie where EVERYONE in the cast disappears completely into their roles and you forget it's just a movie. The Godfather 1 & 2 are as close to perfection as movies can get. Every casting choice was perfect and the performances were so real. Timeless.
It's a really sad scene. On one hand, you feel for Michael being so cold and ruthless, because up at that point, he's been betrayed countless times. No wonder he doesn't trust anybody. But on the other hand, Michael never realized what doing all this is making him become. He thinks he can just eliminate the family's enemies and everything would be fine, but he doesn't realize how endless revenge can be. He has to become more ruthless and powerful to keep the family safe, but at the cost of losing everybody dear to him. Now his brothers are dead, his wife feels unsafe being near him, his sister is alienated thanks to Carlo's death, and his son and daughter are oblivious to it. He has the most powerful mob in the country, but nobody to share it with. At least he still has that beach house.
One of the top 10 definitive moments in film history for me! The chemistry between the two. The pacing. The slow conflictual build. The crisis and insanity creeping over his face and the accompanying wither of his body as she tells him "It was an abortion, Michael"--using that word "abortion" like a dagger. And when she says, "This Sssiccilyan Thhinggg..."--FUCKING PERFECTION.
Was going to go into one on this but yeah, it's a brilliant profound scene that reaches its apotheosis when she says 'Sicilian'. Definitely right, one of the ten or so greatest film scenes of all time.
I fully agree with your comment- I can't stopping looking at it- The way she talks, growing in anger, is perfect- Also for a young woman dressed in Chanel clothes, elegant & educated is terrible to see the way she reacts- Sorry for my English.
And not only this part, but if you look back at the part where bullets came flying into their bedroom, and then Kay was sitting on the couch holding Mary, THAT LOOK she have him then, it told you she was going to do what she just told Michael she did in this scene. She decided then and there that "THIS must all end!" That is how acting done well and great directing produces; when after watching not many films, you can extract whole statements and sentiments from a look--and become an afficianado in short order.
The look on his face is so intense and so insane. That he could have literally done nothing physical. Just the look alone was so powerful and so angry. Al Pacinos best work ever. Of course Diane Keaton was amazing as well.
Diane Keaton's acting is so good here, which would help Al's acting, which is also great. I hope Al didn't legit punch her, because the acting of Diane is just phenomenal here.
shasta evangeline they didn’t have the same liabilities with real slapping in the seventies that we have now. I can’t imagine someone belting Scarlett Johansson across the chops without a huge uproar.
Kay certainly knew how to hit Michael with the ultimate hurt and insult and destroy his love for her forever. The look on his face when she threw the abortion of their baby boy in his face. Had such a look ever been fastened on me, I would start running. Kay was lucky Michael didn't break her neck then and there.
@@lua6586 Did she ever get to keep the kids? I just saw the scene were michael closes the door on her when she visits her children so it seems that none of them end up making a right choice.
Oh my this scene is intensity. Her eyes as he says “I’m gonna change” and her subsequent breakdown of the truth. Diane Keaton IS Kay at that moment. Then his simmering rage. What unbelievable acting by both.
I am shocked that michael didn't have her eliminated just like fredo. Michael really did not love kay. Appolonia was the was woman who had his heart. Kay was just a substitute
almighty agreed, he only dated her to showcase his rebellious attitude and discontent for his Italian culture, the hit on his father and love for him changed all that, he became a monster and didnt need Kay accept to bang out some kids. Maybe he was trying to subconsciously hold onto some of his old self that died the day he shot The turk
I thought he knew Kay before Apollina. If he hadn't killed the police chief he would not have left America, and would have married Kay anyway. Surely this makes Kay his first love. Apollina was a by product of his change of lifestyle. Had things been different, would he have joined the mafia at all? He was supposed to be the intellectual one, who was not in the mob.
Love or not she was his children's mother. How could you ever look at them without feeling guilt let alone they ever actually find out you did such a thing.
The book is different. *SPOILER* After she learns she lied to him, she leaves with the kids to New Hampshire while Michael sets up in Las Vegas. Then Tom tries to persuade her to come back. He said if any of their conversation were to happen between Michael, Michael would kill him. He told Kay that she was the only person he could never hurt.
I gasped when he slapped her. I watched the trilogy for the first time over a weekend and I thought it was heartbreaking to see their relationship deteriorate over the course of these movies.
as an actor, one of the greatest things i love above Pacino is the way his voice is so different , so clear and so raspy at the same time when he’s yelling. especially with the vintage audio from a vintage film, adds so much.
Do you expect me to let you go? Do you expect me to let you take my children from me? Don't you know me? Don't you know that's an impossibility that could never happen. That I'd use all my power to keep something like that from happening. Don't you know that? So powerful delivery..
My favorite part in this is just how much disdain you can hear in kay’s voice when she says SICILLIAN THING and it drives home why michael’s biggest moment of hubris was thinking he could be a a don and have her as a wife. She doesn’t name the sicillian thing, not because she’s afraid of it but because she has absolutely no respect for it and thinks it’s bullshit, a nuisance in her life that she thought would be going away but hasn’t. The mafia lifestyle and Kay are so incompatible that it seems stupid that Michael thought he could have such irreconcilable worlds colliding. But I guess in a way it shows how strongly he felt about her. He went out of his way to pull her in even though he must have known it was gonna be complicated. Sadly it didn’t work for him.
Even from the start of the first film, Michael was always consumed with the obsession of bringing Kay into his family life the way he drags her into the family picture at Connie's wedding. It's a subtle hint of things to come over the entire trilogy.
This is not meant to be stereotypically offensive, but when Fredo’s wife says “Never marry a wop! They treat their wives like shit!” That sounds like foreshadowing for Kay’s outcome with Michael. She shouldn’t have married Michael. Obviously he ended up treating her like shit.
@@pragunahuja6879 when your husband makes you feel that you are unsafe and your children are unsafe, luxury is at the bottom of the list of what matters.
The way she talks with that broken voice after the you won't take my children exchange is some great acting and writing, it made it seem raw and genuine.
4:53 just to backup what user @goncman said literally if you look closely at Michaels eyes,you can see him snap,and he slowly fills with fury and seething rage,it’s absolutely haunting. In addition a fun fact:Al Pacino,In this scene,did indeed really physically strike Diane Keaton;however she didn’t Mind at all,in fact she wasn’t even upset about it at all,she even called the scene “amazing” and even she stated she loved it(of course due she meant in terms of the realism of the scene)
Apollonia had much more in common with him as a Sicilian. Kay was more American than his upbringing could handle. I always thought their marriage would implode after he lied to Kay about Carlo. Kay should have walked out on him then.
It’s a deep scene. She speaks of Michael being blind at this stage in the movie, but it was her who was blinded most. That she actually felt “comfortable” having these conversations means she felt a reassurance (based on past love) that was no longer really there. She felt power that she didn’t have, as the old Michael was long since gone. She wasn’t safe to deliver ultimatums and disclose the abortion without losing the relationship she had as mother to her children forever. Abuse relationships.... you can’t see how much comfort and power you don’t have until it blows up or ends in moments such as these. Then, you see the person for who they really are or they have become over time...
Great analysis. And based on personal experience, you are correct. If she felt unsafe or she thought there was a possibility that the conversation would lead to violence, she might not have even told him she was leaving him. This is telling of how she believed she was dealing with one man, but was met with another one. However, after the explosion of violence, she continued to argue. She stood her ground. She told him, again, that she is leaving with the kids. That says a lot about her character. She was never going to be a pushover - even when she was being literally pushed around. I wonder if she raised the ante, so to speak, by admitting to the abortion in order to provoke him? Or at least break whatever emotional ties he had to her? She had to know telling him she aborted his child then insulting his Sicilian heritage were going to upset him quite a bit.
Except that love did still exist tbetween them otherwise Michael would not have reacted the way that he did. I'd argue this was a bigger betrayal to him than Fredo's and while Fredo was killed Michael did eventually capitulate to he giving her custody and forgave her. He never stopped loving her as is evidenced in the third installment. Kay was maybe the only person on earth besides Vito who Michael loved enough to let them sway his own intentions. I don't know that I would go so far as to call it abusive cause I don't think Michael ever wanted to intentionally harm her but it definitely was toxic and built on a lies.
But wasn't she playing a zero sum game here? She wanted to cut Michael completely off from the children's life. Michael is right on that point: why would she expect him to allow that? The one thing constant about Michael is that he loves his family deeply and doesn't want to lose it. You have to feel for the children: both their parents love them as deeply as they hate each other.
It wasn't that she was under the impression that she had power but that she was willing to take a stand against Michael's behaviour which was becoming increasingly maniacal. They had a life before the family business took centre stage. Kay's naivete about the business and the world it operates in has always been a prominent feature in these films but what's fascinating is Michael's frank exposure of all the criminal activities that had taken place. For an individual to be as open about his father's involvement in criminal activity is a testament to the strength of their relationship. However after becoming the Don, Michael begins to hide things from Kay. When he comes back from Sicily, he employs false promises, deliberately using her innocence as a ploy to earn her trust. Kay may intuitively know that she's being played but her affection for the man she once loved blinds her to the reality of her circumstances. Now personally I don't think Michael was being manipulative about going legitimate but its not an easy thing and perhaps he overestimated the stain upon the family name. Whatever the reason, Kay understands that the family is being destroyed and she isn't wrong. The end of the film confirms this but even before that, Michael is truly alone. At his mother's wake, rather than placate the guests, he sits alone with his children. He doesn't communicate, nor does he let them initiate conversation. It's a sad sad movie. His brothers are dead, his wife doesn't love him, he's isolated from his children, the old guard is gone and he is slowly killing his relationship with Tom. Kay read the situation perfectly and while it could be debated whether she did anything to spare herself from the pain, you can't say that she was the most blinded, especially not after what happens in this film.
i've always viewed Kay as the viewpoint of the audience looking into this nefarious world of the mafia. like at the end of the first Godfather, we see her outside of Michael's study as the door shuts while Clemenza swears his allegiance to Michael, it's similar to the audience getting just a small glimpse of the secretive affairs. With Kay's situation here, she seems to think she understands what she needs to do because she's viewing things from an outsider's view again and takes sides with the senate in the hearings rather than supporting her husband. Michael's (distorted) viewpoint has been that of doing all that is necessary to protect and maintain his family. Part of that included keeping Kay in the dark and ignorant so she would be clean of the dirtiness of the underground. So when Kay starts spouting off her viewpoint of what's going on, he feels utterly betrayed because it's only her viewpoint of what feels limited (even though she isn't completely incorrect). Compare that to Michael's mother who knew what was going on with Vito but supported him nonetheless. The cultural dynamic between Kay and Michael as well as Fredo and his actress wife compared to Vito and his wife is very interesting.
I agree with all these sentiments. I always felt that Appolonia wouldve been a better wife for Michael. He may have been better off being with a woman from where he's from as close minded as it sounds. They have a certain understanding that Kaye from the midwest could've ever understood. Also both Kay and Fredos wife seemed to have a thing about Italians anyway. Kaye mentioning the Sicilian thing and Fredos wife calling him a wop. He didn't choose well with Kay and it caused issue in his personal life.
In a book I have on Diane Keaton they say she was unutilised in this film, that she was waste- Well, looking at this scene I THINK she is NOT !!!!- She is wonderful in it, and a very strong scene indeed !!!!!-
Remember what Don Vito said about putting family first. I think somewhere along the line Michael forgot this and ultimately this was the price he has to pay. Never excuses what she did to him but I think leaving her completely out of the picture for so long caused her to resent him.
ohgodwhy yeah bro. It’s scene where you can see clear distinction between how Vito and Michael handles things. Kay did some BS no doubt but Mike doesn’t handle things well at all at times. But may Kay burn in hell for what she did 😂
Honestly it is difficult to say . Vito handled the family better but his good nature made him vulnerable to his ennemies . Michael HAD to be that cold ruthless killing machine if he wanted to keep his ennemies 6 feet under but in the process he lost his family to his coldness .
I think learning about Kay’s abortion also struck a nerve in Michael because thinking back to Don Corleone’s back story and what he had to go through as a child making him the last person to carry down the Andolini name and bloodline. His family was murdered , had to escape the same mob boss who killed his family, left Sicily and came to America at 9 years old by himself, had smallpox’s and built an empire for his family while facing obstacles. Michael knew it was his duty to keep that legacy going.
I will never forget the first time I saw this scene. It felt so real to me it was completely mind-blowing and surreal. Godfather 2 is probably the best movie I've ever seen and Pacino's performance is probably the best and most layered I've ever seen.
Between This Scene Here And Scarface The Babylon Club Bathroom Scene Man.... Al Just Shift Into A Pissed Off Mike And Take His Frustrations Out On Kate Because She's Wants To Take The Children Away From The Mob Life Mike Decides To Fall Into And It Makes Her Feel Like Mike Is Putting Their Lives In Danger.🙌🏽😳😳 But That Rage From Al Is Fuckin Scary... In Scarface He Was Just Too Controlling With Gina About The Guys She Wants But Tony Just Spazzes The FUCK Out When She Says She F em Whenever She F**k Em. and He Goes Wild.🙌🏽😳😳🔥🔥 Goddamn Al Can portray Some Ruthless Cold-hearted Gangsters. How He Didn't Win A Oscar For This And Scarface Is Really Upsetting To Me.
I saw many people saying it s her choice to aborted because it s her body but she had to talk with with him too because it s his son too he is the father too
He was evil personified. And she allowed that evil into her life. She wasn't stupid. She knew what he was and who he was but she accepted him anyway. Here in this scene she finally realized what a colossal mistake she had made. But by then it was too late. The damage had been done already. No turning back.
And this scene, boys and girls, is why Al Pacino is arguably the best actor ever. Not because of his later, shouty, gravelly voiced work. This. This fucking scene.
Al Pacino is so good, it's pleasant to watch him acting. After watching this scene a few times I realized that Kay is being really tough as well: - You won't take my children - I WILL (closing eyes) - You won't take my children!! - They are my children too (quite but determind) Wow, what a scene this is.
The disgust in her voice when she spat the word SICILIAN. The rage in Michael’s eyes. Oh what acting. Great movie scene.
Among the more intense acting scenes in movie history - really sensational. Pacino is at his absolute apex here, but Diana Keaton is underrated in the scene and doesn't back down.
@@Comictalent I think Diane deserved at least an Oscar nomination for Best supporting actress. (If Talia got nominated for that as Connie, why not Diane as Kay?)
@@frostylunetta I don't know how they decide to award oscars to. It often seems very unfair that stars who deserve an oscar, don't get one.
Kay's part in the film was sad.
Michael travels to Sicily, falls deeply in love with a beautiful girl and marries her.
Kay waits for him and he eventually comes back.
That sort of thing does happen in reality and whilst Michael loved Kay and was very happy with her, he loved the Sicilian girl more deeply.
It's only a film I know but I hated the scene where the car was blown up with the young wife in it
@@frostylunetta I agree - Keaton was awesome in GF2. You could argue that the entire main cast should've been nominated. I'm still blown away that Cazalle (Fredo) & Duvall (Hagen) weren't nominated - seems impossible. There were 5 acting nominations and should've been 8. I've never seen a better ensemble.
Really powerful acting from Pacino in this scene. He puts a lot of other actors in the shade
Pacino done more acting with his eyes in Godfather 2 than anything else
They are so intense.
@Elham M Deniro was an Oscar winner even before heat
The Dreamer deniro won his first Oscar for this very movie...
You take Michael Corleone and Tony Montana side by side, the way they look at people is completely different. That’s what a master actor can achieve.
Memento Mori
They have the same expressions when they are in enraged though
I think Kay's biggest struggle is that when she made the choice to marry Michael she thought she could change him back into the man that she fell in love with.....
+J.R. M yet another case of a woman trying to change a man...
She wasn't trying to change him. She was trying to get away from him. But Michael repeatedly lies to her about his involvement in the family business. He says within 5 years the business will be legitimate. He manipulates her into marrying him. Once she had a child, she was trapped. I have no sympathy for Michael in this situation.
J.R. M yeah she was not fit at all to be a mob wife
@@ohio But at that point he wasn't lying. But he transforms over the course of the films.... sinking into darker and darker places. Look at what Don Vito says in the openning of Godfather 1 -- he foregives the guy for going to the police. He says don't kill the thugs. He has ethics. Michael kills his own brother for crossing him. Would Don Vito have done that?
@@otakurocklee how did he manipulate her to be married
How Al Pacino didn’t win an Oscar for his role in The Godfather films is something I will never understand
Who the hell won oscar back 1974?
Loki 2012 Batman the awards ceremony was in February 1975, and the Best Actor winner that year was Art Carney
@@Karlebow571 It was art carney for one of the most forgettable performances ever.
The only reason pacino lost and carney won was because, art carney was already a well established actor and al pacino was pretty much unknown.
@@dawsondjodvorj2408 what movie was that?
@@Peakprospr420 Harry and Tonto
At a certain point, I forget I'm watching a movie. This just feels REAL.
you said lol
macfan128 yeah the arguments between the couple seem pretty realistic, it's just stuff I could see couples arguing about behind closed doors
Well, you know those two were lovers in real life.
Same, everytime I watch this, I get chills
that's the best kind of movie
difference between Vito and Michael, Michael started treating his personal life like business
Difference is Vito embraced the life, Michael never wanted to be a part of it but had no choice. It was a neccessary evil that tormented his soul. Don't forget the goal was to ultimately go legit. "We'll get there Pop."
1,000,256 views so right.
And Vito had a sicilian wife, while Michael had an American wife. Its a complete opposite. Just compare Kay to Appolonia / Vitos wife (pardon i forgot her name)
@@Vanessa-xl5jy Carmela Corleone
Strong take to say Michael’s life would have been better if he had stayed married to the 16 year old.
The shot of the children playing in the hall while they argue is geeeeeenius
Why
Agree, it shows the children are innocent, know nothing about problems between their father and mother. They only know that both of their parents are not in peace
Mang Kanor puts it all into context
Speaking of which, was there actually something wrong with their son, as Kay said in the movie? Like, was he affected by Michael's parenting or not?
@@mangkanor9403 it creates atmosphere
It feels so real it’s almost uncomfortable to watch.
Then don't watch.
@@a.u.j6340 2/10 rage bait, points for creativity!
@@a.u.j6340rage bait used to be believable
“I’m leaving” - Calm -
“With the kids” - Calm -
“I don’t love you” - Calm -
“It was an abortion” - Calm -
“Sicilian THING” - RAAAAAAAAGE -
ForceMaximus84 it was the build up
abortion and Sicilian thing are the same: preclimax and climax
Congrats, you apparently missed the entire point. You must be proud of yourself.
lolomgmetobavi Actually, it was a joke. The fact that it all boiled over after one thing.
I'm sorry I didn't't get the Sicilian thing
After Apollonia n Sonny died so suddenly n looks like days apart, it changed Michael forever. He became extremely cold n ruthless after that.
He never smiled again after Sonny and Apolloenia died smh. Then again, he gave a melancholy smirk when he was talking to his father in the garden about his son being three, and already knowing how to read the funny papers.
Uhm he was cold and ruthless already, remember the scene outside the hospital with Enzo the baker?
He probably smiled when his son was born
@@renzopeterson153 also rarely smiled after jus father was shot. Clemenza, who Michael always seemed closer to, managed to get a smirk out of him when teaching him to make sauce.
The real message of The Godfather Saga: Do NOT marry a WASP woman.
How many people thought "shut up, shut up, shut up"...when she was going on about the abortion!
I kept thinking "run!"
I kept thinking fuck u
I kept thinking "ohhh she gonna get her ass whooped!"
I too thought shut up.You can see,he was about to explode.Bad thinking.
heema b me lol I was like this bitch dead and she don't even know it
Everyone always talks about Al Pacino's acting here, but Diane Keaton is just as brilliant. The whole scene feels unbelieveably real.
I wonder how many takes did they do this? The emotion was so raw and explosive, I can't see them doing this many times: it would wear them out. As a former actor I think about this, they have to go to places within that are painful to make this real.
@@southsideman4891 I wonder too!!
@@miao7002 yes
If it feels real its probably because she and al were an item so they must have brought some of that into their characters
He didn’t even hesitate to slap her maybe because they were actually a couple
I can't understand how the Academy watched this scene and didn't give Pacino the Oscar.
Makica 1981 what fucking values you joke. Its about fucking acting. Wolf is right. Corrupt bastards.
Makica 1981 i don’t really think so. But maybe thats just my opinion. Wish you best of luck Makica.
@Makica 1981 so how do you explain Marlon Brando receiving the Oscar for part 1 then ?
The Wolf of Justice and Truth Oh god, here we go again with this shit.
They both should have one for this scene alone.
Great scene. Look at Pacino from 5:21 - the rage he's building up is unbelievable. He looks like he's ready to murder Diane Keaton.
My name is Karl.I just watched the scene at 5:21,and the rage building up.He is about to explode.I have seen this part before on Television years ago,and I believe in the trailer back in the 1970's.She was right about one thing,something was brought to an end...their Marriage.
Al Cd he's a genius, noboby can play rage without speaking like him
I was gonna comment the same thing. Acting isn’t as hard as people think. All you have to do is genuinely invest in what your character feels for certain situations, then makes those emotions a reality.
There are multiple scenes where his eyes are freakin awesome.
Pacino is great throughout the monologue. Look at his faces: at 4:51, he's confused and shocked, like he wasn't sure what he just heard. At 5:03 it sinks in, and he looks like he's about to vomit. Finally at 5:21, he's ready to choke her the f out.
Every hit begins with Kay
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5:03- 5:12 Al performs better only with his eyes than half of Oscar winning actors can do with their whole body.
That's why he is the GOAT.
He is the GOAT.
That was heartbroken. At 5:22 - 5:26 he was deeply outraged
A year later confirming he’s still the goat. 👑
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4:52 When I first saw this movie I thought Michael was gonna kill her there. Just look at his eyes
I know, she just told this Sicilian, Roman Catholic man that she aborted his son. When I first saw this when it came out, I was like OMG he's going to kill her!
@@karmanbeamon4889 not to mention she crapped in his heritage
There’s a deleted scene about this but Mike wouldn’t have her killed. He loved Kay too much to even consider it. Tom also explains it in the movie based off on a scene with Kay from the book. Tom straight up tells Kay she would be a widow if Michael doesn’t do what he does.
Abortion
Common people: well her body her choice
Sicilian catholics: OH SHIT JUST GOT REAL
If the punch to her face was real, I sure hope Al apologized to Diane after the cameras stopped rolling
Kay: "At this moment I feel no love for you at all."
Michael: "Another Quaalude, she gonna love me again."
Noice
Wrong movie pal
It was Tony who said it bruh not Michael
*scarface theme intensifies*
It's okay frank let her gooo
I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT
I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT
I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT
OVA!!!
FunnyVideoMaker77 Lol. I get it. Miscarriage and Ova! Hahaha! Nice, bro.
If he turns himself into a MGTOW he wouldn't be hearing shit from that bitch lol
NEW YORK SPORTS FAN ii
The OVA reminds me of my dad do much.
Anthony's friends are your button men!
She never understood the family she married into
@@jeunesseeternelle9803 Yes it was possible, you dont need big brains for that.
She did. It's spelled out in the novel. At the end of the first novel, she understood Michael lied to her when everyone was calling him Don and Godfather (the point when the movie ends). She starts crying in the kitchen and takes her kids to Hanover, New Hampshire to live with her parents. Michael then sends Tom Hagen to bring her back. He tells her the truth of what had happened (the killing of Carlo Rizzi) and that he would be killed if Michael had known what he had told her. She then comes back, converts to Catholicism (from Protestantism) and goes to church every day to pray for Michael's soul, just like Michael's mother did for for his father.
It should've been Apollonia.
Damn Fabrizio
@@jeunesseeternelle9803 my late uncle is sicilian and his wife is english...what do you want to say about it?
@@malsudajinpei one like tea and crumpets the other like meatballs and pasta how that...?
This is the transition of Darth Vader we should have seen.
Nice to hear someone else say it. I agree. I think Lucas used Michael Corleone character as inspiration, but shit the bed in executing it.
"From my point of view..naaaah cant do it, not on a Godfather video
FN 2187 How funny is it that George Lucas actually even made the montage sequence for the original coz Francis couldnt do right, then messed up emulating francis with Vader
Moe Greene turned into Vader first I TALKED TO BARZINI
great comment
I'm sure he misses his first wife at times like these.
TOTCD in the books is implied that he did love apollonia but after she died he settled for kay. he did care for her but was never in love as how he felt for apollonia, also after her death, michael changed into the ruthless don corleone, he would have been much like his father as don if her would still be alive
spidlenexor
Yes makes total sense. Michael has seen things. No wonder he became as cold as he was.
Maanday Tueesdayy Fridaayyy
I know that car bomb didn't miss her...
I’m sure Kay wishes his first wife never died either, lol.
I remember seeing this as a kid and being TERRIFIED of Michael. That look of pure rage and that very abrupt shouting reminded me of my own father, and the fights my parents would get in. Even now I get goosebumps. A dangerous, vengeful man.
Wow, how old were you when you saw this movie? Roughly speaking. I saw it in my late teens.
@@PlayNiceFolks I was around 12 or 13 I think. My parents owned the VHS of the whole trilogy.
I was scared too when watching this scene
To heck with fighting with a man!
@@PlayNiceFolks I saw the Trilogy when I was , like , 6
Diane Keaton’s acting in this scene is phenomenal. Even though we follow Michael’s story from beginning to end, in one scene she makes us feel all the pain and fear Kay has accumulated.
The problem I have with Keaton's character, is that, she is supposed to be this intelligent rather hip ~WASP American woman, but look, she knew he was from a mobster family all along and this ridiculous woman let herself fall in love with a mobster presuming Michael would never behave like a mobster! I mean, WTF was she thinking! It just seems so fitting how women never take responsibility for anything bad that they do.
@@mobydick3895Michael promised her in 5 years he was taking the family legit. He lied.
@@mobydick3895 Men will defend the straight up mob before sympathizing with a woman. Y'all stay safe out here.
@@coochieblessings8897 media literacy is so dead 😢
Meh I didn't care the least bit about her. All she did was whine the whole series.
His face at the end, is not that different from the face he had when he was trying to convince her, yet it conveys so much anger.
WitchettyMan yes maybe. When a wife says theyte gonna take away your children.....thats the fake
Face excuse me
i don't agree, it's much more different
5:21-5:25 that rising anger in Michael's face had me at the edge of my seat! Al Pacino is truly one of the greatest actors in history.
And just think: he was young and barley did any acting! They were kids, ALL OF THEM! They played around in between shots! The studio demanded he be fired, Coppala put his name on the line for Al!
It's truly, truly amazing the way like can, and can not, go.....
5:23 that was just brilliant emotional acting. Without saying a single word you see how much his hate grew by the millisecond and those eye... Oh my god those eyes. It scared the crap out of me
crazyangst12
I remember watching that scene for the first time as well. And that was the moment when we all knew.... Kay had fucked up.
Its the trembling chin of anger. Barely said a word but his face says it all.
The metaphor is she aborted their second son, and then he killed his fathers second son
lookin like he was bout to bite her LOLOLOLOL
Yep, I think he's a complete natural...in a matter of seconds we see him go from optimistic, to complete despair and then pure rage all without saying a single word.
This Sicilian thing, that's been going on for 2000 - BAM!!!
Tony D to be historically accurate, the whole 'mafia' thing started in Italy after the unification of the country in 1871, so only 150 years ago.
Two thousand years ago we still had the Roman Empire. You'd think a teacher should know this. But not a wasp teacher.
@@barb7084 @Barb 708 Brava. Its true and not many people understand. Italy is very ancient, but the "unified" country itself is very young, younger than the USA. They use words like unification but it was a conquering of the Kingdom of Two Sicilies by northern states around Milano. At the time the Kingdom of Two Sicilies was richer and after they were conquered all the wealth was redistributed to the north. This coincides exactly with the first Italian migration to the USA and the rise of the mafia. To this day Italy is very much divided between north and south. I live in the south and when you travel to the north it is like a different country. They speak differently and are more European than what I consider Italian. They look down on people from the south because it is the agricultural center and farm based economy, whereas the north is industrious.
Barb 708 it’s okay
She took a falcon punch for her fredo moment
@@barb7084 that's why Mike slapped her.
@@barb7084 That's true. Prior to the 1800s Italy was a divided nation going all the way back to the fall of the Roman Empire. Before the reunification, the seat of power in the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany.
I love how Kay's eyebrows shift slightly after Michael says "I know you blame me for losing the baby." Actually, I love pretty much all the acting in this scene. How Pacino didn't get an Oscar for this movie is beyond me.
Those eyes that Al was making when she said "it was an abortion". I felt the his anger and his hate, truly felt that. Al Pacino is one of the best actors out there
Diane is a fearless actress
Pacino not getting an Oscar for this should have stripped the academy of all credibility, and Keaton could have easily been nominated for Supporting Actress amazing performance by her aswell
@@Tonycillian5 both did an amazing job in this movie. Such chemistry and acting from two great actors.
This is where Tony Montana takes over Micheal Corleone
LOL
+Vivek Kumar Not really. IMAGINE YOU ARE A RESPECTED MAFIA BOSS. How would you react if you learned that your wife murdered your own child, the son you so desired, just because of some stupid notion of "love, fairies, sunshine", just because she couldn't empathize with the position you were in (this, atleast from Michael's perspective).
Rather, I give Michael Corleone credit for not ordering the torture and execution of his wife. Tony Montana would have gone Luca Brasi on her.
Gaurab Chatterjee No, the child was aborted not because of those fairytale expectations but because she doesn't want to extend the "criminal" Corleone family by giving it more heirs. What you would do is up to you to decide but I feel Micheal has committed a mistake. If he didn't want to change his track, he shouldn't have made false promises to Kay before marriage.
Vivek Kumar "What you would do is up to you to decide "
Please read my comment carefully. Its not my perspective, but Michael's I'm talking. And considering Michael could easily have her killed for this,given how angry he was, he did show remarkable restraint.
No real life Mafioso's spouse would ever dare abort his child without his permission. The consequences of that are all too obvious.
+Vivek Kumar thanks for killing the demon. you saved a lot of lives.
"In time...you'll feel differently"
That line dude, it always makes my stomach turn a bit, I think it perfectly encapsulates a passive but abusive toxic relationship
the "I'll change" is also a huge ass red flag lol
@Melinda GDW everything is. Michael may have done everything to protect kay and his family, but never once did he ever consider her feelings at all. He kept feeding her with empty promises that things will change, only doing things what he thinks is right. Kay is no saint, but at least i can understand how she could feel suffocated being in a relationship with michael.
@Melinda GDW yea i think we may have different perspectives of what makes relationships count as abusive. But i think we can both agree that michael and kay was not a healthy relationship and both of them are better off without each other.
"In time, you'll.......wanna put out a hit on me."
@Melinda GDW Michael did everything but protect his family. He put his family in danger. Killers shooted on their house because of Michael's criminal activities. He first wanted to be different than his father and brothers but he became worst. Kay believed him when he asked her to marry him and that he would make the family's business legal. And he failed. So she leaved.
Michael’s face when Kay tells him it was a son and she had it killed is truly the most terrifying facial expression you’ll ever see in movie history. He’s calm on the outside but his soul is screaming with pure rage!
Kay's way of acting is very "intelligent"... telling an ultra-conservative Roman Catholic husband that she voluntarily aborted their child. She was lucky that Michael only slapped her and not gave her a severe beating like Sonny gave Carlo.
@@rexxtank8165Always found it weird how these “ultra-conservative Roman Catholics” have no qualms about deliberately breaking several of the 10 commandments for a living.
@@Kessekom funny how conservatism works eh
@@CropDudia480p He broke the ten commandments because He was a mafioso, not due to conservatism!
She's Lucky she didn't end up like Fredo
@@planetarygo11 LMAO... "FUCKING PUSSY" Read that in a russian accent. xD
He knew that if he killed the mother of his children he might as well said permanent good bye to them they would have never forgiven him.
Well, her daughter definitely paid for being a Corleone. Waste of a "fucking pussy".
@@planetarygo11 At least Fredo got to bang cocktail waitresses two at time !
Should’ve been her instead
That was so damn intense. Killing the heir of the family is no joke in those days. I'm surprised that he didn't burn her alive with rage in his eyes.
It wouldn't have been the heir, they have a son, Anthony.
@@Anna-ou7or The boy was to weak minded. and soft. He needed another boy.
LOL She aborted the kid as crime prevention
@@CaesarCassius killing cannot be justified.
@@dawsondjodvorj2408 oh shut up🙄
Acting masterclass...I wonder if they had to do many takes for this scene, the actors are too good to have to do that. Classic stuff.
Pacino's EYES on realising what happened to that "miscarriage "
No matter how many times I see this scene it always takes my breath away. When Kay says she had an abortion all I can think is how much she hated Michael by this point. Amazing scene.
No, she hated who Michael has become!
@@mstwelvedeadlycyns Oh no, she hates HIM at this point too
Kay Dread Him
He provides for his family by any means necessary, your kids are well looked after but because of how you feel? Her son lackes ambition and her daughter makes out with her cousin, guess it's an AMERICAN THING, HUH
Kate HATED!! the man he turned into 😢 cold and heartless!!
see appolonia would never pull shit like this
+Ziba Appollonia was way better than Kay
+Jay Jones 😂
***** harsh harsh 😂😂😂
+Jay Jones LMFAOOOOOOOO
Too bad she couldn't drive.
her subtle WTF expression at 4:02. brilliant acting
I know, right? For a second or more he almost won her back but then she's like, 'The hell with this bullshit AGAIN?!'
"You're my wife. They're my children. I love you, and I won't allow it."
That particular line, even though it's heard from behind closed doors, conveys so much about Michael and his beliefs. He's trying to be sincere, to convey his love for Kay and the children, but ending it with "I won't allow it" shows that he doesn't truly want Kay to stay out of love. He wants her to stay because getting divorced isn't acceptable in his culture; it would reflect poorly on a Don for that to happen.
Michael is also a man used to people obeying him, to have control over everything so of course it shown in his personal life.
To be fair though, "I won't allow it" strikes me as the spontanuous words of any spouse (man of woman) when confronted to a spouse who treathens to leave with their children.
@@Evy2526 nothing about Godfather is normative
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
V. C.
Uh, you're reaching. He could actually mean it. How exactly does _"I won't allow it"_ prove otherwise? If he had said _"I won't let you walk away or I won't let that happen"_ would that make it seem more lovey dovey and emotional for you? They both mean the same thing... Nice try at being analytical
Michael lost all control at this point. His brother has betrayed him and his wife has turned against him. The rest of the world hate him and only do what he says out of fear. There is no genuine love or respect
Kay: Not with this Sicilian THING thats been going on for 2000-
Michael: SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!
he was so handsome when he was young ! love him forever !!!
Was??? Hes still handsome!!!
@@Lushy260 ❤️
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We talking about the actor or the character? I guess I could see why the actor, but if you’re talking about the character lol
@@mingchenwei1978 Both ;)
You'll never see acting like this anymore - not to mention the directing.
Jabba Hut Watch the television show Breaking Bad.
@@johnkerr3050 Oh I have - thought it was awesome!
Jabba Hut Yes it is. In my opinion Al’s portrayal of Michael Corleone and Bryan Cranston’s portrayal of Walter White are the 2 best performances In history
Watch marriage story
@@johnkerr3050 agreed
Michael doesn't even need dialogue. His eyes say it all!
It's such a rare thing to see a movie where EVERYONE in the cast disappears completely into their roles and you forget it's just a movie. The Godfather 1 & 2 are as close to perfection as movies can get. Every casting choice was perfect and the performances were so real. Timeless.
It's a really sad scene. On one hand, you feel for Michael being so cold and ruthless, because up at that point, he's been betrayed countless times. No wonder he doesn't trust anybody. But on the other hand, Michael never realized what doing all this is making him become. He thinks he can just eliminate the family's enemies and everything would be fine, but he doesn't realize how endless revenge can be. He has to become more ruthless and powerful to keep the family safe, but at the cost of losing everybody dear to him.
Now his brothers are dead, his wife feels unsafe being near him, his sister is alienated thanks to Carlo's death, and his son and daughter are oblivious to it. He has the most powerful mob in the country, but nobody to share it with. At least he still has that beach house.
I'm in Awww of al Pacino he was so handsome when he was young
Shanelle Ford He looked Pretty good in Scarface , Heat, Then I think it all went Down hill LOL
And in Carlitos way he looked so sexy. There were very erótics scenes with him
Yea he hasn't aged well no offense to him lol
He had a big nose and was very short.
the word is awe, not awww.
4:52 You can actually see in Michael's face the moment he realizes marrying Kay was nothing but a mistake and that he wishes Apollonia was alive.
I don't think Apollonia has anything to do with this scene actually. It's between Michael and Kay only. An acting clinic from Pacino & Keaton.
Yeah, it's sad.
Going from Apollonia to Kay is like fillet steak to a Quorn burger
@@goodyeoman4534 Which one's which?
@Alex F that's not what I asked but i found out through research. Yeah she's the better choice.
No one could ever done Michael Corleone character better than Al Pacino. The guy is unique.
I love how they actually sound like they're inside a hotel, brings more realism to it.
The whole movie you have a feeling Michael is gonna explode like this, and then it really happens.
the quiet ones...
@@jesus4lyfe00 agreed
5:21 How my dad looks at me when he sees my report card and sees I got a C in math
😂😂 Stay safe with those Cs'!
Least you didn’t fail
LOL
Lol uh oh
Are you perhaps Asian...?
Michael is always calm and collective throughout the movies, but it's quite scary when he gets angry
Italians can be extremely hotheaded! The men AND women! Don’t wanna piss em off. lol
By the end of Godfather 2 you could really see how cold and empty Michael was
So could he. But it was too late for him.
One of the top 10 definitive moments in film history for me! The chemistry between the two. The pacing. The slow conflictual build. The crisis and insanity creeping over his face and the accompanying wither of his body as she tells him "It was an abortion, Michael"--using that word "abortion" like a dagger. And when she says, "This Sssiccilyan Thhinggg..."--FUCKING PERFECTION.
Was going to go into one on this but yeah, it's a brilliant profound scene that reaches its apotheosis when she says 'Sicilian'. Definitely right, one of the ten or so greatest film scenes of all time.
I fully agree with your comment- I can't stopping looking at it- The way she talks, growing in anger, is perfect- Also for a young woman dressed in Chanel clothes, elegant & educated is terrible to see the way she reacts- Sorry for my English.
And not only this part, but if you look back at the part where bullets came flying into their bedroom, and then Kay was sitting on the couch holding Mary, THAT LOOK she have him then, it told you she was going to do what she just told Michael she did in this scene. She decided then and there that "THIS must all end!" That is how acting done well and great directing produces; when after watching not many films, you can extract whole statements and sentiments from a look--and become an afficianado in short order.
@@0Lu.Lu0 Yep, that look told me everything I needed to know about where their marriage was headed
The look on his face is so intense and so insane. That he could have literally done nothing physical. Just the look alone was so powerful and so angry. Al Pacinos best work ever. Of course Diane Keaton was amazing as well.
Diane is so very talented. She can do roles such as this, and also excel in comedic roles!
When I watched it for the first time in 2002, I said to my Dad, "Annie Hall!"
Very gifted and beautiful …they don’t make artists like this anymore
One of the best performances in Pacino's career, he almost has no lines, but you can tell EVERYTHING that is going through his head only by his eyes.
He was already mad about the abortion but the world Sicilian I think made it kind of a racial overtone and that wasn't acceptable
Diane Keaton's acting is so good here, which would help Al's acting, which is also great. I hope Al didn't legit punch her, because the acting of Diane is just phenomenal here.
Ultradude they dated in real life, but he cheated on her. That might add to their acting dynamic.
@@reikun86 I did not know that.
shasta evangeline they didn’t have the same liabilities with real slapping in the seventies that we have now. I can’t imagine someone belting Scarlett Johansson across the chops without a huge uproar.
Actually, that was the first CGI slap. They did it with an Apple computer.
reikun86 he cheated on her? I’ve never heard of that. Could you direct me to the source?
The look in Michael’s eyes is the greatest acting I ever saw. I didn’t know it was possible to change your appearance this way.
Kay certainly knew how to hit Michael with the ultimate hurt and insult and destroy his love for her forever. The look on his face when she threw the abortion of their baby boy in his face. Had such a look ever been fastened on me, I would start running. Kay was lucky Michael didn't break her neck then and there.
She did the right thing
@@lua6586 Did she ever get to keep the kids? I just saw the scene were michael closes the door on her when she visits her children so it seems that none of them end up making a right choice.
@@lua6586 No, she did not. If she wanted to leave, she should have gone. But you don’t take a man’s children from him.
@@perk_a_licious6506 yes in the third movie we can see that they still kept in touch
@@lua6586 proof
Oh my this scene is intensity. Her eyes as he says “I’m gonna change” and her subsequent breakdown of the truth. Diane Keaton IS Kay at that moment. Then his simmering rage. What unbelievable acting by both.
I am shocked that michael didn't have her eliminated just like fredo. Michael really did not love kay. Appolonia was the was woman who had his heart. Kay was just a substitute
almighty agreed, he only dated her to showcase his rebellious attitude and discontent for his Italian culture, the hit on his father and love for him changed all that, he became a monster and didnt need Kay accept to bang out some kids. Maybe he was trying to subconsciously hold onto some of his old self that died the day he shot The turk
Dizzy Blu Exactly
Giovanni Moncada you must be so sexually frustrated aren't you?
I thought he knew Kay before Apollina. If he hadn't killed the police chief he would not have left America, and would have married Kay anyway. Surely this makes Kay his first love. Apollina was a by product of his change of lifestyle. Had things been different, would he have joined the mafia at all? He was supposed to be the intellectual one, who was not in the mob.
Love or not she was his children's mother. How could you ever look at them without feeling guilt let alone they ever actually find out you did such a thing.
The book is different. *SPOILER* After she learns she lied to him, she leaves with the kids to New Hampshire while Michael sets up in Las Vegas. Then Tom tries to persuade her to come back. He said if any of their conversation were to happen between Michael, Michael would kill him. He told Kay that she was the only person he could never hurt.
The book doesn't even include the events of The Godfather Part 2 so idk the point of this
@@errwhattheflip It was the original story written by the author who would become one of the two screenwriters of the saga. It's worth mentioning.
So say goodnight to the bad guy.
lmao!!!
he can be my "bad guy".
Make way for the bad guy ... there's a bad guy coming through!
It's the last time you'll ever see a bad guy like this, let me tell ya...
Deadass this dude is the truth
Oh you want Elvira instead?
I like how he went from an innocent young man that loved his family too one cold hearted bastard!
I gasped when he slapped her. I watched the trilogy for the first time over a weekend and I thought it was heartbreaking to see their relationship deteriorate over the course of these movies.
as an actor, one of the greatest things i love above Pacino is the way his voice is so different , so clear and so raspy at the same time when he’s yelling. especially with the vintage audio from a vintage film, adds so much.
Do you expect me to let you go? Do you expect me to let you take my children from me?
Don't you know me? Don't you know that's an impossibility that could never happen. That I'd use all my power to keep something like that from happening. Don't you know that?
So powerful delivery..
To anyone reading this, if your significant other talks to you like Michael talks to Kay, RUN. Just RUN.
5:25 his face! What a performance from Al Pacino.
Masterful acting.
SJMJ91 And he didnt win best actor for this. Such a joke.
Al Pacino's eyes were more than enough to win 6 oscars.
My favorite part in this is just how much disdain you can hear in kay’s voice when she says SICILLIAN THING and it drives home why michael’s biggest moment of hubris was thinking he could be a a don and have her as a wife.
She doesn’t name the sicillian thing, not because she’s afraid of it but because she has absolutely no respect for it and thinks it’s bullshit, a nuisance in her life that she thought would be going away but hasn’t. The mafia lifestyle and Kay are so incompatible that it seems stupid that Michael thought he could have such irreconcilable worlds colliding. But I guess in a way it shows how strongly he felt about her. He went out of his way to pull her in even though he must have known it was gonna be complicated. Sadly it didn’t work for him.
Even from the start of the first film, Michael was always consumed with the obsession of bringing Kay into his family life the way he drags her into the family picture at Connie's wedding. It's a subtle hint of things to come over the entire trilogy.
This is not meant to be stereotypically offensive, but when Fredo’s wife says “Never marry a wop! They treat their wives like shit!” That sounds like foreshadowing for Kay’s outcome with Michael. She shouldn’t have married Michael. Obviously he ended up treating her like shit.
@@FormulaPunRacer what about the luxurious lifestyle Kay had? Mama corleone stood by Vito thru shit and Kay gets mad if she can’t go shopping
@@pragunahuja6879 when your husband makes you feel that you are unsafe and your children are unsafe, luxury is at the bottom of the list of what matters.
@@12classics39her and kids were always safe with hundreds of armed killers protecting them
She's like, "Boy, I'm taller than you!"
but he slap her hard
Actually Al Pacino is an inch taller than her
short king
Imagine joe Pesci married this women?
Imagine joe Pesci married this women?
greatest slap a bitch moment in history
For real!
Yeah hahahaha
+Hameed Paul You mean the most deserved!!!
+Hameed Paul It sounded like a punch, his eyes and his face trembling. She had to know it was coming.
+Xavi Campoverde And He's not a fucking terrible person. The only thing terrible about Him is that He loved His fucking family more than Cosa Nostra.
The way she talks with that broken voice after the you won't take my children exchange is some great acting and writing, it made it seem raw and genuine.
4:53 just to backup what user @goncman said literally if you look closely at Michaels eyes,you can see him snap,and he slowly fills with fury and seething rage,it’s absolutely haunting.
In addition a fun fact:Al Pacino,In this scene,did indeed really physically strike Diane Keaton;however she didn’t Mind at all,in fact she wasn’t even upset about it at all,she even called the scene “amazing” and even she stated she loved it(of course due she meant in terms of the realism of the scene)
For some reason when he says "I will use all my power" I believe him
"Anthony's friends are your button men!" It took about 45 years but I finally figured out what she said!
he was better off with Apollonia
Yes, she had no mind of her own and would do as she was told without question. A better match for him.
He would been a different person if Appollina wasn't killed and he stayed happy with her
allwrighty100 that's exactly what we man need you said it good little goodie goodie
Yeah, but its hard to marry smoldering corpses in Sicily. Laws, am i right?
Apollonia had much more in common with him as a Sicilian. Kay was more American than his upbringing could handle. I always thought their marriage would implode after he lied to Kay about Carlo. Kay should have walked out on him then.
It’s a deep scene. She speaks of Michael being blind at this stage in the movie, but it was her who was blinded most. That she actually felt “comfortable” having these conversations means she felt a reassurance (based on past love) that was no longer really there. She felt power that she didn’t have, as the old Michael was long since gone. She wasn’t safe to deliver ultimatums and disclose the abortion without losing the relationship she had as mother to her children forever.
Abuse relationships.... you can’t see how much comfort and power you don’t have until it blows up or ends in moments such as these. Then, you see the person for who they really are or they have become over time...
Great analysis. And based on personal experience, you are correct. If she felt unsafe or she thought there was a possibility that the conversation would lead to violence, she might not have even told him she was leaving him. This is telling of how she believed she was dealing with one man, but was met with another one. However, after the explosion of violence, she continued to argue. She stood her ground. She told him, again, that she is leaving with the kids. That says a lot about her character. She was never going to be a pushover - even when she was being literally pushed around. I wonder if she raised the ante, so to speak, by admitting to the abortion in order to provoke him? Or at least break whatever emotional ties he had to her? She had to know telling him she aborted his child then insulting his Sicilian heritage were going to upset him quite a bit.
Except that love did still exist tbetween them otherwise Michael would not have reacted the way that he did. I'd argue this was a bigger betrayal to him than Fredo's and while Fredo was killed Michael did eventually capitulate to he giving her custody and forgave her. He never stopped loving her as is evidenced in the third installment. Kay was maybe the only person on earth besides Vito who Michael loved enough to let them sway his own intentions.
I don't know that I would go so far as to call it abusive cause I don't think Michael ever wanted to intentionally harm her but it definitely was toxic and built on a lies.
But wasn't she playing a zero sum game here? She wanted to cut Michael completely off from the children's life. Michael is right on that point: why would she expect him to allow that? The one thing constant about Michael is that he loves his family deeply and doesn't want to lose it. You have to feel for the children: both their parents love them as deeply as they hate each other.
It wasn't that she was under the impression that she had power but that she was willing to take a stand against Michael's behaviour which was becoming increasingly maniacal. They had a life before the family business took centre stage. Kay's naivete about the business and the world it operates in has always been a prominent feature in these films but what's fascinating is Michael's frank exposure of all the criminal activities that had taken place. For an individual to be as open about his father's involvement in criminal activity is a testament to the strength of their relationship. However after becoming the Don, Michael begins to hide things from Kay. When he comes back from Sicily, he employs false promises, deliberately using her innocence as a ploy to earn her trust.
Kay may intuitively know that she's being played but her affection for the man she once loved blinds her to the reality of her circumstances. Now personally I don't think Michael was being manipulative about going legitimate but its not an easy thing and perhaps he overestimated the stain upon the family name. Whatever the reason, Kay understands that the family is being destroyed and she isn't wrong. The end of the film confirms this but even before that, Michael is truly alone. At his mother's wake, rather than placate the guests, he sits alone with his children. He doesn't communicate, nor does he let them initiate conversation. It's a sad sad movie. His brothers are dead, his wife doesn't love him, he's isolated from his children, the old guard is gone and he is slowly killing his relationship with Tom. Kay read the situation perfectly and while it could be debated whether she did anything to spare herself from the pain, you can't say that she was the most blinded, especially not after what happens in this film.
i've always viewed Kay as the viewpoint of the audience looking into this nefarious world of the mafia. like at the end of the first Godfather, we see her outside of Michael's study as the door shuts while Clemenza swears his allegiance to Michael, it's similar to the audience getting just a small glimpse of the secretive affairs. With Kay's situation here, she seems to think she understands what she needs to do because she's viewing things from an outsider's view again and takes sides with the senate in the hearings rather than supporting her husband.
Michael's (distorted) viewpoint has been that of doing all that is necessary to protect and maintain his family. Part of that included keeping Kay in the dark and ignorant so she would be clean of the dirtiness of the underground. So when Kay starts spouting off her viewpoint of what's going on, he feels utterly betrayed because it's only her viewpoint of what feels limited (even though she isn't completely incorrect).
Compare that to Michael's mother who knew what was going on with Vito but supported him nonetheless. The cultural dynamic between Kay and Michael as well as Fredo and his actress wife compared to Vito and his wife is very interesting.
I agree with all these sentiments. I always felt that Appolonia wouldve been a better wife for Michael. He may have been better off being with a woman from where he's from as close minded as it sounds. They have a certain understanding that Kaye from the midwest could've ever understood. Also both Kay and Fredos wife seemed to have a thing about Italians anyway. Kaye mentioning the Sicilian thing and Fredos wife calling him a wop. He didn't choose well with Kay and it caused issue in his personal life.
Cinema doesn't get much better than this.
My god, Al looks frightening at 5:20
Manish Bhatia to me, that's a look of a time bomb waiting to go off
Fucking Kay thought she could bring down The Corleone Family
She only wanted her babies stay away from the mafia.
Juan Antonio Moreno I liked Santino more than Michael
Michael did that all on his own. It wasn't Kay's fault their daughter ended up getting to shot to death.
She died because her father was mafia's boss and no car is going to change this fact.
salmarwow Yes, no car
Just remember what year this is. In 1959, the thought of a woman getting an abortion was unfathomable.
THIS MUST ALL END!!!! Only Diane could bring it home like that!
In a book I have on Diane Keaton they say she was unutilised in this film, that she was waste- Well, looking at this scene I THINK she is NOT !!!!- She is wonderful in it, and a very strong scene indeed !!!!!-
She was wonderful in all three movies.
Remember what Don Vito said about putting family first. I think somewhere along the line Michael forgot this and ultimately this was the price he has to pay. Never excuses what she did to him but I think leaving her completely out of the picture for so long caused her to resent him.
ohgodwhy yeah bro. It’s scene where you can see clear distinction between how Vito and Michael handles things. Kay did some BS no doubt but Mike doesn’t handle things well at all at times. But may Kay burn in hell for what she did 😂
Honestly it is difficult to say . Vito handled the family better but his good nature made him vulnerable to his ennemies .
Michael HAD to be that cold ruthless killing machine if he wanted to keep his ennemies 6 feet under but in the process he lost his family to his coldness .
I think learning about Kay’s abortion also struck a nerve in Michael because thinking back to Don Corleone’s back story and what he had to go through as a child making him the last person to carry down the Andolini name and bloodline. His family was murdered , had to escape the same mob boss who killed his family, left Sicily and came to America at 9 years old by himself, had smallpox’s and built an empire for his family while facing obstacles. Michael knew it was his duty to keep that legacy going.
On another note… Michael is so fine and so masculine….🤦🏾♀️
I will never forget the first time I saw this scene. It felt so real to me it was completely mind-blowing and surreal. Godfather 2 is probably the best movie I've ever seen and Pacino's performance is probably the best and most layered I've ever seen.
Between This Scene Here And Scarface The Babylon Club Bathroom Scene Man.... Al Just Shift Into A Pissed Off Mike And Take His Frustrations Out On Kate Because She's Wants To Take The Children Away From The Mob Life Mike Decides To Fall Into And It Makes Her Feel Like Mike Is Putting Their Lives In Danger.🙌🏽😳😳 But That Rage From Al Is Fuckin Scary... In Scarface He Was Just Too Controlling With Gina About The Guys She Wants But Tony Just Spazzes The FUCK Out When She Says She F em Whenever She F**k Em. and He Goes Wild.🙌🏽😳😳🔥🔥 Goddamn Al Can portray Some Ruthless Cold-hearted Gangsters. How He Didn't Win A Oscar For This And Scarface Is Really Upsetting To Me.
This scene is really impressive...what two great actors!!
This is Al Pacino's greatest performance. No question. This is what he should have won the Oscar for.
I saw many people saying it s her choice to aborted because it s her body but she had to talk with with him too because it s his son too he is the father too
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5:21 Best pissed off facial expression ever. Well done Pacino.
Can tell James Gandolfini took a page out his book
When Michael gives you that look at 5:21 you'd better run... far, far away.
I'm afraid running might not help you at that point.
😂😂😂
He was evil personified. And she allowed that evil into her life. She wasn't stupid. She knew what he was and who he was but she accepted him anyway. Here in this scene she finally realized what a colossal mistake she had made. But by then it was too late. The damage had been done already. No turning back.
She killed a baby,She's evil too
She killed a baby she's evil too
And this scene, boys and girls, is why Al Pacino is arguably the best actor ever.
Not because of his later, shouty, gravelly voiced work.
This.
This fucking scene.
antsman88 Nah its up there, but Brando and Cagney have him beat.
Dizzy Blu "arguably"
antsman88 Yep, this is the "arguing"
For me his best was in And Justice for All, it is not his best movie but for me it is his best acting
you can see it in his eyes how hurt he was when she said it was an abortion HOLY CRAP
Two giants, directed by another giant.
This is how you make a masterpiece.
Thanks Pacino, Keaton and Coppola. ❤
Al Pacino is so good, it's pleasant to watch him acting.
After watching this scene a few times I realized that Kay is being really tough as well:
- You won't take my children
- I WILL (closing eyes)
- You won't take my children!!
- They are my children too (quite but determind)
Wow, what a scene this is.