Paramount's Terrible Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1987 Complete Series DVD (TMNT Review)[Soundout12]
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what did you do in your life this is your silent hill
While I'm not a TMNT fan... I feel your frustration. I'm a LOONEY TUNES fan, and trying to collect all 1000 cartoons on DVD/Blu-Ray is a NIGHTMARE!
Should be a nice torrent with all episodes ???
@@nickwpearceThere is a way to get all the LT/MM. But because many from private collections are in such bad shape, many of them look awful. Relying on WB to slowly restore them over time, and some they probably never will for PC reasons
At least with Looney Tunes, it's more understandable, considering the sheer number of shorts there are. Like you said there's 1000 of them (technically slightly more, if you count the handful of the post-Golden Age shorts). Plus, some of those shorts have content that wouldn't fly today, such as the Censored 11. The best you can do is get all 6 volumes of the Golden Collection (which you can get bundled together) and the Collector's Choice Blu-Ray sets they've been putting out lately.
@@NeoKokoro20 …and also the Platinum Collection Blu-Rays, the Super Stars DVDs, the Mouse Chronicles Blu-Ray, the Porky Pig 101 DVD and Bugs Bunny 80th Anniversary Blu-Ray. If you buy all those AND the Golden Collections and Collector’s Choice sets you’ll have about 60-65% of them.
@@NeoKokoro20 not to mention some of them have the original negatives missing.
I ripped all my DVDs, put them in order on my portable HDD and just watch it that way.
Snap. Been a pain, but busy putting all my media onto Plex. Currently working on ripping a 59 DVD TV boxset….
I don't think I've done anything that big yet, but I certainly know the pain!
@@racx_00 can you share the correct tracklist episode order dude?
@PhillyTTT What are you working through on Plex?
If you Google the show name with Plex next to it, you'll get the correct naming order...
With certain shows you need to create sub folders for specials. So for example, using a real old sitcom as an example, I'd title the specials of Last of the Summer Wine as 'Last of the Summer Wine e01' for the first special on Plex's server listing.
Outside of that, it would be 'Last of The Summer Wine s01e01' for a normal episode.
Hope that helps!
@PhillyTTT the way I do it (not sure if it makes much difference), is to create a main folder titled as the shows name then subfolders for each series or season.
I get the feeling that the reason why so many modern DVD/Blu-Ray releases are so bad, is because they want to force people into digital media instead. I wouldn't be shocked if these phsycial releases being bad is done on purpose.
Except, most releases are given good care. Releases like the ones in this video are the exception to the rule.
Also, if the master plan was to drive people to digital, they wouldn’t of released physical versions AT ALL…
the physical media department has no money in it anymore so they just dont invest in it
They don't even have the latter seasons on digital, so the logic doesn't really work here...
I don't know why a lot of people gave your comment a thumbs up. Because it's simply not true for the majority of releases.
I will never understand why it's seemingly impossible for us to get a good DVD release for any of the TMNT cartoons. I was really disappointed with the new 2003 TMNT DVD's quality but at least that release has all the episodes in order.
I wish Paramount would just let a company that knows what they're doing, like Shout Factory or Discotek, handle the DVD releases.
Shout factory did release next mutation on DVD 😂
Outdated master? Check. Poor cover? Check. Bad encoding? Check. Crap thicc case? Check. Well done, Paramount. What’s worse is that their home video division has been performing quite well recently, must be a license/right neglect. Thanks for you service.
The case is the only good thing about it. Saves so much room.
& Paramount didn't have a box sleeve unlike what Warner Bros. Discovery Home Entertainment had.
@@DennisTamayo You're right but that's never important to me. I always throw mine away.
It can only be licensing issues.
@@Max_Toons In my opinion that doesn't explain why the episodes are still horribly out of order. I don't think there's an excuse for at least that.
it's the Malibu Stacey with a new hat of TMNT DVDs.
It Sould be Blu-ray Discs at This Point and Not DVD!
It should also be properly done by Paramount, not just them reusing the discs from the Lionsgate release. It reminds me of those bootleg Star Wars: The Complete Saga DVD sets where it's just the DVDs from the older releases of the Star Wars Original & Prequel trilogies before 2011, but I think Paramount made that official, they literally took the discs from the Lionsgate release and placed it in their case. They did what the bootleggers did and made it official.
Eh. The quality on the TMNT releases really aren’t THAT bad.
I will never understand why so many people dislike regular DVDs. That’s almost exclusively what I buy. I bought the last TMNT the complete series on dvd and I’m happy with it. At that point, it came with a Vudu code on the Walmart receipt, so I not only do I have DVD, but I have digital too.
@BoogSReviews I mean- I'm starting to see the appeal now of digital, BUT I don't think I'd ever swap out physical media for it.
I'm working my way through ripping my DVDs and blu rays so I can watch anything at anytime, without the need of a disc (or swapping discs) on Plex.
Still want to keep my discs as a backup for tech failing, but I'm happy knowing I'm now preserving my physical media.
@BoogSReviews For animation I don't think it's a big deal either way but for live action there is a striking difference between DVD quality and Blu-Ray. I still buy DVDs myself but only either when a film was never released on Blu-Ray or when there's a huge price difference between the DVD and Blu-Ray.
Im glad I kept my original set that came in the Turtle van
Yeah same here.
I saw that and wanted. Glad I got 2 opinions on it.
I have the van set and it's pretty awesome.
That sounds scary
Same here!
I'm shocked they didn't release the full Rise of the TMNT show with the movie included at this point.
Great vid. Seems like, I should begin a petition for Paramount to give _TMNT '87_ the same hi-def restoration treatment as, say, Star Trek: The Next Generation, but for physical and digital home media and streaming releases.
I don't think an HD remaster in the vein of what was done with Star Trek is possible, because this show was finished on video, and I doubt higher quality versions than the ones already released exist.
@@itsjayden8002 Someone needs to check their archive and confirm negatives do not exist.
@@GremmPaltakin How do you know the negatives no longer exist?
They would have to reanimate the show which is possible to do but expensive.
Those HD/Bluray versions of TNG are kinda' bad though. Seeing stains and stand-in marks on the carpet, black paper taped over the LCARS screens that was done originally to prevent the camera being seen in the reflections, they changed the aspect ratio so occasionally you can see boom mics popping in and out of view above the actors heads, etc.
TMNT deserves better.
Thanks for this. I was curious about this set, but you saved me time and money from having to buy it. I don't care about the video quality or whatever, the DVD picture quality is fine, I just want the episodes in order..
You should care.
There are Blu Ray sets that put in many many episodes on Standard Definition which definitely helps with the clutter of having too many discs.
WHOA! I saw this in Walmart yesterday at a decent price. I'm glad I didn't pick it up. Can't wait to see your DVD history because I'm been trying to find this specific TMNT disc set and I had no idea it had troubles behind it.
Why didn't Nick just ask Shout Factory to make the set? I guarantee that they would've done a far better job.
Also, they could've given it a blu-ray release, as well as a butt load of extras.
Considering Hey Arnold, Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron, and Rocko’s Modern Life only got DVD Box Sets by Shout Factory… I think it’s likely the 87 Series would’ve gotten a shout set.
At least TMNT got to keep it's special features between companies. The Real Ghostbusters DVD collection from 2009 was done with Time Life/Sony, but future releases by Sony are taken from different masters or just lazy re-releases don't have anything but the episodes. Same with He-Man, the original boxset was loaded and every US release since has been missing features.
I can attest. I myself have the He-Man complete series DVD box set from BCI Eclipse (which at one point was affiliated with Funimation), and it was decked with every bell and whistle you could imagine: documentaries, art cards, fun facts, and a bunch of interactive stuff. I also have a later “best of” He-Man DVD from Mill Creek, and that had absolutely zero special features.
The modern DVDs of The Real Ghostbusters also have the issue of cramming 12 to 13 episodes onto a single disc which hurts the image quality. Thank God, I own the Timelife set. I only own the modern Sony DVD set for some of the different episode masters. However on the DVD versions of Volumes 1-5 the episode title cards have been removed and replaced with a forced subtitle telling you what the title is. The commerical bumpers have also been removed. Lastly, the modern releases of the show are missing many episodes. With the DVDs you get 111/140 and with Digital you get 116/140. (neither of the modern releases have the Slimer! cartoons)
I've never owned the full DVD box set for the original 🐢 turtles show (87) but I feel the need for quality here. Appreciate your input. They definitely treat the old show like garbage. I'm more of a Turtles (03) guy and I haven't owned that on DVD either. I still do enjoy the FreeRuns of the old show and do plan to own the 2003 box set by the end of the year. But I do sincerely appreciate the passion for this release and I do hope companies treat the property with the respect they deserve in future iterations.
What saddens me is that then these collections don't sell and then Paramount thinks they shouldnt bother with catering to the TMNT fans since it's not profitable
True dat
Hey Sound I got the DVD set, but I didn't discover your video back before I got it. Once I got it I thought something was off, then I found your video and I knew I was right.
I was considering picking this up. I do have the Lionsgate release. Also, you talked about the case this set comes in. Well, the Lionsgate release uses the exact same abomination of a case. This Paramount release is 1:1 the same as the Lionsgate set, except for different boxart. And the labels on my discs are really dark for some reason.
Although to be fair, I think reprints of the Lionsgate discs was probably the best-case scenario here. Because if Paramount's 2003 boxset is anything to go by, then new DVDs made from new masters would probably leave a lot to be desired. Black bars burned into the side of the image, smeary, hazy, fuzzy shots. Episodes being censored, incomplete Turtles Forever, still. If they made new DVDs, then I suspect it would have been a similar story here.
Either way, thanks for making this review. At least I know not to waste my money on it now. Still crazy to think that these DVDs are still being printed after 20 years!
It's 2024, 4K disc's are going on 9 years old, DVD should be obsolete, and every release should be at least Blu-ray. If this set was Blu-ray, the new format might have forced paramount to put in some effort to release these properly.
I think dvds are still available because some people don’t have blu ray players
I'm sorry but shout factory should have bought the rights to it
Basically everything they make is good. They made Gravity Falls: The Complete Series, and that's the best DVD set I've ever seen. They also did a great job with Transformers.
@bowserbreaker2515 and they also did a great job on the Sentai DVDs
Watching this set in proper order sounds like a nightmare lol.
Paramount should've given the TMNT 1987-1997 DVD creation duties to Shout Factory, look at the great job they did with Alf compared to Lionsgate. Full uncut episodes of Alf, plus the two animated shows and the film Project: Alf
Getting any comprehensive collection of this show in the UK was virtually impossible.
Ironically, i had a dream about Turltes last night. I blame you for doing this to me
Coincidence, not irony.
And wait a minute? They didn't even make new discs like 2003 but just recycled the old ones from lionsgate ? Wow ... Paramount, one step forward and 4 steps backward 😢😢😢😢 bummer in the words of Mikey 87
I don't think Paramount could afford to make new discs.
They had to produce new dvds for the 03 series funimation/4kids releases because they never released season 7 or the turtles forever movie.
Honestly I feel like they should let a boutique label like Shout! take a crack at TMNT cause I feel like they’d do it justice with episode order and plenty of features.
Don't know I got a super overpriced gravity falls set from them and they messed the up the transfer of a major scene. Shout has had a History of good and horrible work.
@@twk8520 whoa really??? I have the set but have yet to watch it. Is it present on all copies or only early ones??
there's also the fact some say the wild thorn berries set has a error on 2 episodes not sure if its fixed since i'm yet to get a copy
@@flybuttero Yeah be careful 50 bucks for my defective Gravity falls I wasn't happy. Shout has gotten lazy in many releases. So far my insane priced farscape set is ok.
@FilmGamerX, ikr? Look at what Shout Factory did for ALF, after the butchering of the series by Lionsgate. Shout Factory restored all of the scenes that were missing from the Lionsgate releases. All except for the original version of the infamous "try to remember" episode.
Paramount should restore and remaster on the original, “TMNT” cartoon, the original, “Garfield” TV specials, and “Garfield and Friends,” on the complete, Blu-ray sets.
Including, the original, “Ren and Stimpy Show.”
Honestly that’s what Paramount’s Home Media division should’ve done from the get go. Heck, I would be glad if every SpongeBob episode were on BluRay, same goes to the other Nickelodeon Blu-Ray Sets.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosI didn’t know that the original show’s episodes, on the complete DVD set, are out of order.
Naaaah cause eff John k.
I would love a TerryToons blu ray release for animation nerds like me
Had no idea these ancient DVDs came loaded with an ad for 4KIDS OF ALL THINGS!? Absolute insanity that this is what we’re stuck with now.
EDIT: I’m sorry, POWER RANGERS SAMURAI!? WHAT!?
@@Spindash54 *Welcome to my Nightmare begins playing softly in the background*
Yep, even a TMNT Fast Forward trailer!
@@Soundout12 Ivan Ooze: WELCOME, to my nightmare!
It’s sad that the dvds are the exact same ones that are on my turtle van set that came out in 2012. I had my set since 2013 and I was lucky enough to get Rob Paulsen and Jim Cummings to sign it so unless we get this show on Blu Ray, it will never be replaced(even then I would just swap the discs and still use the van).
The big irony is that I think the Power Rangers Samurai DVDs are out of print now. lol
Think yourself lucky. In the UK, we only got Seasons 1&2 together & NOTHING ELSE SINCE. Same with the 2004 series I think 😢
Actually, 2003.
For the record, the episode order on the DVDs, except season 5, was based off of the episode guide on the old "official" ninja turtles website. This was considered to be the "official" order at the time. Though I'm not even sure you can trust the paramount plus air dates. Season 3 especially aired on many different networks across the US and many people who taped episodes back then had them in different orders. Who knows though. Probably information that is just lost to time. Also, the "never before seen" episodes on the season 1 disc, at the time, one of the people who worked on the DVDs claimed it was that those episodes didn't air in all regions.
The way Paramount handled these discs reminds me of how Lionsgate’s re-releases of HiT Entertainment DVDs would keep their old labels with the 20th Century Fox logo on them (or the Anchor Bay Entertainment logo in the case of 95% of their Thomas & Friends re-releases). Funnily enough, however, when Universal began reprinting those same DVDs in 2014, they actually went through the trouble of authoring new discs - not just with different labels, but also updated trailers, and sometimes even the removal of their old special features (which would make sense if they were just DVD-Rom extras that obviously don’t work anymore, but if those extras were genuinely substantial material…).
Wait a minute, I thought they already owned the rights to the 87 TMNT Series. They owned TMNT for a long time, and the 87 characters showed up in the 2012 crossovers, and had newly made toys based on them, that I assumed they own the rights to the 87 show.
Tbh, I dont think its that bad of a release.
Despite the episodes being mostly out of order, they're still numbered unlike the 2012 Series and the quality is still good unlike the 2003 DVD set.
I kinda expected, considering how lazy Paramount is, that they would just reuse the same discs but they even reused the same awful packaging style.
I never expected they would do such a thing, but DVDs are getting worse nowadays, so it’s more then just a Paramount thing.
When Paramount rereleased the first two seasons of South Park after acquiring the other half of Comedy Central, they actually did make a point to remove the WB branding on the discs.
So they can give a damn when it comes to South Park but not when it comes to TMNT
Ok
Also, when Paramount reprinted Shout! Factory’s Complete Series DVD sets of Hey Arnold! and Rocko’s Modern Life, they made new labels and updated the actual disc contents to replace Shout!‘s logo and FBI warning with their own.
I think it’s more a matter of when the DVDs were done and how much effort they were willing to put in; the South Park season sets were relatively new in the mid-2000s, whereas these TMNT DVDs range from 10-20 years old, and Paramount just sees fit to reuse them as is. Not excusing that, and I think they should’ve at least revised the labels for this new set.
@@JasontheCartoonFan But a lot of the menus were left the same on the Hey Arnold! Paramount set, minus the first disc and openings.
@@ssj4jason737They owned South Park and TMNT, it’s just that they’ve never done TMNT Complete Series DVDs before. Whereas they’ve done South Park for decades.
Nick's got a weird case of these reprints with Paramount.
Their Hey Arnold Boxset has Seasons 2-4 reprinted from Shout Factory (same with Rocko's Modern Life)
SpongeBob's Next and More 100 Epsiodes just reprint the Seasons 6-13 DVDs when the First 100 Episodes was an original anniversary thing in 2009. Paramount's always real weird. But never have I seen them DIRECTLY REUSE THE DISCS DOWN THE ART, HUH!?
Fun Fact, That Ultimate Collection name on the 2K3 set is from their Hey Arnold set for some reason. Along with the packaging design
When I bought this set, my discs 22 and 23 were scratched to hell right out of the shrink wrap.
oofs all around. Feels even worse since all these 40th anniversary Turtles stuff has come out, and yet this still gets a garbage release. I will say another thing to take into account is disc rot. So any newer disc is worth it, even if it's literally copies based off older discs.
I know I've seen other fandoms like Star Wars and Dragon Ball work to make their own remasters of the series. If a company can't make a respectable release, hopefully the fans can.
I think it's time to a blu ray 1080p release or even a 4K release. Don't you think?
I thought I had this from a purchase a few years back, but it looks like I have the Lionsgate release from 2018.
Great rundown of the probkematic nature of these discs! I had no idea.
Actually, 2012. The copyright year is on the disc labels.
I absolutely hate those cases. Bought The Last Kingdom full series set. As soon as I opened the case, every disc fell out onto the floor.
So which collection should I get then? I want a set with all episodes on dvd or Blu-ray.
It’s truly disgusting they purposely release poor dvd sets. They can easily remaster and Blu-ray everything for cheap. For example the power rangers original on blu ray is 100 dollars because they are not available. 🤢🤮🤮
Please do the complete history video ASAP. I have the complete collection in the van, sealed. I'd love to see you break all this down as I have no clue if all the separate releases.
Not sure how this got in my recommends, but glad it did! I had noticed this new release, and me and a friend had been talking about getting it, as it was a set I had been putting off getting since I started collecting physical media, and had really wanted the one that came in the Turtle Van. It sucks to hear that even with all these re-releases that the same issues still plague the set, and that not one of them have corrected the issues. Unfortunately I don't have trust in many streaming platforms given the nature of them and how they can just yank shows whenever they feel like, so for someone like me it seems the headache of piecing the episodes together properly is the only solution. But hey, the heads up is appreciated!
I'd argue the 2003 complete series set was worse because it's new transfers actually looked worse then the ones on the old 4Kids DVDs and it didn't have the uncut version of Turtles Forever(which did come out on DVD in the UK and Australia so Paramount has no excuse for that one)sure the episodes are all in order but they fucked up the aspect ratio so much it hardly matters. Sometimes a new transfer is worse then just reusing an old one, we also saw that on the very flawed Porky Pig's 101 DVD release which had a new worse looking transfer of one of the black and white Porky's shorts that looked considerably better when it was released on the Golden Collection.
This video confirms what I thought when I saw this set at Walmart yesterday that it was the same as the previous complete release with new artwork.
Paramount you just had one job! You should have use the actual gray discs with the actual correct order episodes.
The 2012 series is packed like the 1987 series. I really wish it were packed like 2003. At least the episodes were in order. But they're not numbered, so you have to look it up. Also, season five is partially out of order. And it does have an episode list. It's not too bad. I own the Avatar: The Last Airbender DVD set, and that one is great. It was packed perfectly. If Shout Factory released these shows, they'd do a good job.
The Complete Series DVD set of TMNT 2012 had the same issues. It was a repackage of old DVDs, the DVDs were in a double stack, and the DVDs were out of order.
But you know what doesn't have these issues? Sonic The Hedgehog 3!
Thank you for this review, I had purchased the lionsgate complete box set earlier this year and was disappointed that it was just an awful rerelease of the older box sets. When I heard about this set coming out I was as skeptical as you so I have been waiting for a review about it and now after seeing this,I’ll not waist buying it. Hope your video somehow reaches paramount and they actually fix this.
I know this product only shows the Lionsgate logo, but not Paramount Home Entertainment. Same thing with Akira 4K they only have Funimation not Crunchyroll logo.
I was considering picking this up when I saw it at my local Walmart. Thank you for helping me save money
In general, I always go by production order, not air date order. As lots of shows would be aired out of order like Firefly. I keep hoping they do a blu-ray of the original Addam's Family, but I figure they would have done it by now. I have the bluray of Star Trek Original Series and Next Gen.
21:36, In that case, the best DVD release of a series would be Fast Forward, at least that one had the Theme Sogn
Haha... This is prime example of not doing the homework, or not paying attention to what ones purchasing.
I also share your frustrations with Paramount: as a Golden Age of Animation fan (cartoons from 1930s, 40s & 50s), I've been waiting for them to release the Betty Boop and Mighty Mouse cartoons.
I got the Lionsgate set, and I put the discs in a CD case because I felt like they were safer there than in the official packaging.
9:32: "MGM used to have their DVDs distributed by FOX..."
One all-in-one I have from Shout! is much the same, at least in its first three seasons: Barney Miller (its first three seasons [early 1975-1977] were originally from Columbia-TriStar and Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, and Shout!'s all-in-one has the original C-T/Sony releases as they came, albeit w/Shout! labeling; starting with the fourth season and through to the end, Shout! released those last five seasons themselves, both individually and in the all-in-one).
The Dexter complete series DVD set re-release had that same epic style, I bought a used copy and some of the discs were damaged to the point where I couldn't play certain episodes with any amount of cleaning and i'm pretty sure that damage was due to the packaging.
"Buy our overpriced underwhelming box sets. We hate animation and you!"
"but I can just download better versions for free"
And they wonder why piracy of media has been going up.
There is a 1080p upscaled version out, there stop giving corporations money for garbage products
1987 -1990 was the best era growing up. I was 8-10 then. All the hype.
iam glad iam a 80s 90s kid best times.
Yes that era
@@GremmPaltakin right. That's my favorite
Given how Streaming Services has been becoming even more of a big deal in this decade then how they were in the 2010s, it’s clear that DVDs are just dead compared to BluRays.
A lot of modern DVDs don’t usually contain special features and exciting behind the scenes stuff, and it’s frustrating that we get a complete series DVD of a famous cartoon from the 80s, instead of getting a Blu-Ray box set.
I swear, this isn’t just a Paramount Home Media Thing, this has been happening with any other dvd of a famous show. Last year, Sonic Satam got a dvd in order to celebrate the cartoon’s 30th Anniversary. Not a Blu-Ray of Satam… a DVD. WHY!
It's a standard def show that's why
Thank you for rambling, it’s another dark day for TMNT fans; but we should be desensitized to the violence against our beloved turtles. TMNT III was a cash grab, an unwatchable piece of dog crap. Michael Bay ‘s version of the turtles was an absolute slap in the face to my generation, and now Sophie Campbell is ruining TMNT stories.
We the fans must endure and take our small victories wherever possible and appreciate those who do right by us. However far and few in between these victories come.
Here is yet another reminder that companies are hoping we will buy whatever crap they can slap a TMNT logo on.
I’ll just keep using “on now” Amazon episodes and eating cereal 😂
I believe the reason they’re reprints of the Lionsgate original is because they have the original BANGER intro, but Paramount is stuck using the bullshit remastered intro due to licensing issues.
What do you mean about Paramount with a remastered intro? I'm curious. I don't own this 2024 complete series, and I like to know what you are talking about. Are you saying the 2024 release has edited the intros of the 87 series? Did it sound like this?: ua-cam.com/video/M-CJ-VRErSU/v-deo.html
@@NickyHelpYes, it sounds like that, and it’s bullcrap. I’d rather be able to listen to the original banger intro than the crappy new version.
@@Max_Toons Got any information and proof of that? I want to know and see first before I judge.
I used to have all those ninja turtle DVDs back in the day, I wish they would stream them somewhere just to save money on having to buy the DVDs
Here's hoping we get a Blu-ray remaster for this show someday. Won't be buying this after watching this video, so thank you for that. The only reason I see to buy this is to save on shelf space.
Let me guess, the content on the discs are exactly the same as the original releases, and the Lionsgate logo has been left intact for most of the discs.
2:19
Actually, it IS more accurate than you think. Most of Season 10's run got preempted back when it originally aired on CBS, so most people didn't get to see it back then.
That depends on the local affiliate. I'm in Canada, and we used to be stuck with the Toledo CBS affiliate which stopped airing the show after Season 7 in favour of local E/I programming. Two years later, it switched to the Minneapolis affiliate just as they started airing the usual earlier repeats to fill the normal five week gap before reairing. So I saw Gret Shredder through State of Shock which I initially thought were the first new episodes in three years. Then Return Of Dregg came on...
Truthfully, I didn't mind the Lion's Gate releases. (In fact, I was very impressed they fit the entire second season of 13 episodes on one single disc.) And in fairness, the 2004 release of the first season, the 4 bonus "unaired" episodes actually didn't air everywhere in the USA, or in some countries so in a way for some territories they were unaired.
From the sound of it, this set would of been better if they were just the Lion's gate discs redone.
I got the purple one for like $20 new and got scared. Relieved that you're dreading just the new release
Looks like I'll be saving money by just buying Captain Planet. I love the special features on the TMNT DVDs. But other than that, there is no excuse for this at all. I will have to just continue to keep the repackaging case release that has the purple cover art. Thank you for making this video.
I hate those Epic Packs. Paramount uses them for their complete Star Trek blu ray sets and everything is so tight and the discs always come loose.
I get so pist when i hear a dvd sliding out of place in a box set.
9:42 yeah that happened with me and my Once Upon a Time in America bluray. The disc says its from Fox (which makes some sense because it's owned by Regency Enterprises) but literally everything else is from Warner Bros.
The fact that the episodes aren't really in order don't bother me much but the lionsgate set I have doesn't play worth a crap. Once you get into season 3 it starts freezing like the discs are totally scratched but not one visible scratch on them.
I may have the same set, but at least it’s in a case that looks like the Turtle Van. I’ll take “foam base with cuts to put DVDs in” over that kind of packaging, any day.
Yeah, they've had nearly 12 years since November 13, 2012 to get this right and they never did. It they've released this set 3 times now and never got right, they never will. But of course, we know that's because in order to fix the episode order or use new masters, they would have to entirely redo the discs from scratch along with having to change what's listed on the episode selection screen(s) which they are too lazy to do. So that's why the 2018 re-release and now the 2023 re-release just repackage the same old discs with all of the existing problems left intact.
Okay I bought the lionsgate set a few years ago and thought I was tripping when the episodes were just bouncing around haha
This was very helpful. Thank you!
Its almost like everyone forgot how companies do marketing and resell everything just packed different
Yeahhh, Paramount really took a steaming dump on us with this release 😔
..cowabungaaa
I bought the last TMNT the complete series on dvd and I’m happy with it. At that point, it came with a Vudu code on the Walmart receipt, so I not only do I have DVD, but I have digital too. I honestly don’t care about Blu-ray or anything like that, so the regular DVDs are cool with me.
Glad to hear your passion, but not about the lazy effort put into the release.
Even re-releases of pre-2018 DreamWorks Animation releases by Universal still keep the original printing from their original distributors. They just change the disc label
Finally, the company with the worst streaming app interface and user functionality ever has made a piece of physical media that is equally abysmal
The only way we're getting another set is if they decide to do a Blu Ray set. Which is highly unlikely
I mean most of episodes are standalone so it’s not a total loss I mean I’d be more upset if it was a continuative narrative series like the 2003 series the 87 series is more of an episodic series
You pretty much covered it all, but yeah, the maddening thing about this release is that they could've improved it over the previous one. Killer part is if they remade it from the ground up and did it the right way, it would still be a 23 disc set.
Accounting for all 193 episodes here:
- 9 episodes per disc from discs 1-18 which would be the first 162
- disc 19 have 7 episodes which stops at episode 169
- discs 20-22 be the final 3 seasons each since each one of those is 8 episodes.
(I'm suggesting it this way to separate the red sky seasons and to keep it organized that way)
- disc 23 be the previous special features, minus the duplicate episodes of course (and assuming having special features would really matter?)
To address the cases, the one the 2003 set came in is the epik pak, whereas the stacked discs pack is called mega pak. But yeah the cases are maddening as well, considering the epik paks can hold up to 24 discs at most, and when it's an odd number of discs, at least one side of the trays would only have one disc hub, so yeah, they really screwed this one up. Which is why the Nickelodeon complete series release sucks as well because that could've easily been in a 20 disc epik pak case, but they put that one in a mega pak instead.
This was a great video but I find myself wondering how this young guy knows the Original series. Did your folks turn you on to it?
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, man!
Where can I find the chart you made so I can watch it in order?
In our Discord sever!
Only reason this was re released was for a new audience discovering it. Thats really it. Thats always been tricky especially in season 4 as some episodes aired on saturdays and others week days. One episode, "the cufflink caper" aired in prime time right before the very first episode of "tiny toons adventures" the other daily episodes where syndicated. They aired on WPMT FOX 43 for us 1989-1990 at 3:30-4:00 mon-friday. Beginning in season 5 it was all Saturday mornings. So season 3-4 are the trickiest considering the regional difference in air times and stations and the partial saturday morning exclusives during 1990-1991. And those where massive seasons
The show started on CBS in 1990 with Season 4
I got the boxset in the turtle van and yes that’s exactly the same as that one. But that one does have a booklet of all the episodes.
Wow, that is some IMPRESSIVE half-assing on Paramount's part. I assumed that they'd be the same discs as the Lionsgate release given the number of them and the cheap price of the set, but the EXACT SAME DISC LABELS, too?? Oh well, at least the casual DVD-buying public of 2024 won't have to miss out on ads for TMNT Fast Forward airings on a defunct kids block, 2011's hot new Power Rangers series, that one animated Thor movie where he has a sword, William Shatner's Gotta Catch Santa Claus, and, of course, other TMNT DVD releases that are completely redundant because they're already part of the set.
Honestly, I wouldn't bother agonizing about the exact episode order for most of this show while rewatching it. I marathoned it a couple years back, and the only episodes that I bothered switching discs for were the European Vacation arc, Planet of the Turtleoids, and Once Upon a Time Machine. (Just because Plan 6 from Outer Space leads directly into the former and the latter two feature characters that either first appear in or reappear in other episodes.) The show is so largely episodic that the only real thing that might seem weird is the Technodrome occasionally being in a different location. It's definitely not worth sitting through that logo constantly in pursuit of perfect airing order. 😅
Out of order and repeated episodes didn't bother me nearly as much as skipped episodes. It was such a relief when we got them on the season 10 set.
I’m 42 years old and, all I’ve wanted since the release of DVD’s is a TMNT complete box set with every episode in order and the made for TV special all-in- one for the 1987 cartoon. Now it seems I will have to wait until the franchise is sold to another company or, subject myself to the shameless-cash- grab that now represents my childhood.
THANK YOU PARAMOUNT FOR RUINING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS RIGHT FOR TMNT FANS OF ALL AGES!
I have not bought and will not buy this mockery of my childhood.