Building a NEW Amiga 2000 in 2022 - Part 1 assembly, testing and first power up

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • Why buy a big box Amiga when we can make one...
    If there's one thing that's been missing from my collection its a big box Amiga and since prices of those are heading skyward, me and a few other folk got together and did a group buy of the parts needed to build our own.
    This board is a reworking of the classic Amiga 2000 but redesigned to fit an EATX form factor for use in a modern case. The boards came partly assembled from JLCPCB (not sponsored) but its up to us to put the rest of it together. The chipset comes out of the battery damaged A500+ we looked at a few months ago.
    Thanks to screemo, pillock, liv2 and sparxuk for the help while assembling this. Special thanks to sparxuk for ordering everything and splitting it out into kits for each of us.
    2000EATX GitHub - github.com/jasonsbeer/Amiga-2...
    CRG twitter - / yt_crg
    CRG patreon -www.patreon.com/user?u=139190...
    Music - Modspire by NaokiS ( / naokisaito )
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    01:52 First look at the board
    02:55 Pass through caps
    07:39 Thank you SparxUK
    08:27 Fuses
    08:50 Diodes, stupidly small diodes!
    12:21 Fitting SMD IC's
    14:02 Soldering montage 1
    15:27 SRAM
    17:01 What's next
    18:16 -5v regulator
    19:16 Capacitors
    19:42 Oscillator
    22:07 ATX power connector and modification
    24:49 U103, U105
    25:46 Soldering montage 2
    26:32 Jumpers
    27:31 Sockets
    28:35 Some more stuff needed from the old board
    30:16 Ports
    31:20 U103, U105
    31:55 Some quick tests
    34:26 Video cable and fitting the chipset
    36:19 Setting the AGNUS jumpers
    37:16 First power on
    37:46 Reset and clocks?
    38:33 Clock Fix
    40:30 Second power on
    40:49 A few days later...
    43:54 Amiga test kit
    46:30 What about Zorro?
    47:47 Conclusion, questions and credits.
    #Commodore #Amiga #A2000 #2000EATX
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  • @jason50146
    @jason50146 Рік тому +23

    jasonsbeer here...nice work! Imagine my excitement when an A2000 EATX build video popped up on my youtube feed today. You did a great job going through everything...including the issues people should be aware of. I have probably ordered 50-60 of these boards from JLCPCB through the development phases and for resale. Never had any warped like that, so I don't think that's a production issue. Regardless, that's unfortunate. Looking forward to part 2!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +6

      Thanks for the kind words.
      The warping in the board is unfortunate but it is what it is. I now have the slots fitted and it certainly strengthens everything, the board at least doesn't flex as much.
      All being well part 2 will be up this coming Sunday finishing off the build getting it all into a case.

  • @markwrightrf
    @markwrightrf Рік тому +11

    If only UA-cam had a "this deserves a bigger audience" button... great stuff as ever

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks Mark, this one has quickly turned into my biggest video of the year. Part 2 will be up for Sunday.

  • @deamondeathstone1
    @deamondeathstone1 Рік тому +9

    So a 16-bit Dance Party? 🤣

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +3

      Suppose you could call it that 🤣🤣

    • @hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626
      @hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626 4 місяці тому

      if Paula supported 16 bit samples could have challenged some major 90s rompler synths

  • @MegamanEXEv2
    @MegamanEXEv2 Рік тому +27

    I like the idea of a “reverse sleeper” where the outside is super modern gamer RGB, but the internals are Amiga. Could be fun!

    • @AmEv7fam
      @AmEv7fam Рік тому +1

      I do know that some people are calling them "ricers", where "sleepers" and "ricers originally came from the car scene - and they both apply the definition of performance equally.

  • @mick2d2
    @mick2d2 22 дні тому

    Started with an A500. Added a HDD.
    Then bought a (second hand) A2000.
    Ended up selling both to get an A1200 which is still going strong!
    Wish I could have kept them all.

  • @jjock3239
    @jjock3239 2 місяці тому

    I have just subscribed. I thoroughly enjoyed your build. As an owner of several different Amigas, including a bunch of 2000s, I enjoyed the A2000 for so many years, that I am happy to see that it lives on. Even though my main 2000 has a GVP 030 board doesn't get much use any more, because I am using an 040 powered A3000, as well as a Cyberstorm powered A4000.
    Amiga forever!

  • @gertsy2000
    @gertsy2000 Рік тому

    Great vid. Especially luved the Adrians Digital Basement dancing.

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming 9 місяців тому

    I can solder a bit, but it's depressing to watch me solder, so I won't try to solder a board myself. I take my hat off to your soldering skills.

  • @samuraidriver4x4
    @samuraidriver4x4 Рік тому

    Go crazy case, feel like this deserves something noticable.

  • @thepillock
    @thepillock Рік тому

    Great video! Love how you work through the minor problems you had and share the tips

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo8980 Рік тому

    Fascinating watching a brand new big box Amiga motherboard being born here in 2022. I never had nor saw Amigas back in th 1990’s but recently got into them and bought a Vampire V4 Standalone, then got the itch for a big box and so I have Hese building me AA3000+ and then A4000TX motherboards. Expensive hobby once you start adding in Zorro USB, 9000GPU, IDE controller boards and the custom chipset costs but it is fun and luckily classic Amiga OS keeps getting updates with 3141 and 32 in the last couple years. Great video and I enjoyed watching Part 1.

  • @BrainSlugs83
    @BrainSlugs83 Рік тому +2

    Full RGB gamer mode with the iconic bouncing ball etched into the window, so the lights make it glow.
    I think that would be phenomenal. Can't wait for part 2!

    • @BrainSlugs83
      @BrainSlugs83 Рік тому +1

      p.s. I love the idea of using an A500 keyboard in a custom shell. That seems like a fun project on its own too!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thats the plan, use an A500 keyboard. I have a case in mind for the board and there may be some RGB stuff on order too 😉

  • @gklinger
    @gklinger Рік тому +1

    Perhaps your best video yet! So much fun to watch. Thank you!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks, glad to enjoyed it.

  • @leesmithsworkshop
    @leesmithsworkshop Рік тому

    very nice work, nothing better than spending all that time assembling a kit than seeing it working at the end.

  • @Sozzled39
    @Sozzled39 Рік тому +4

    Lovely job Glen! Really cool to see an Amiga 2000 emerging in a new form factor. Look forward to seeing the Zorro slots installed and in action.
    For a keyboard you could use one of those CIA USB adapter thingys until you track down a proper A2000 keyboard.
    Case-wise: Yeah a windowed box sounds good. In a modern case. Sort of an inverse sleeper!!

  • @3vi1J
    @3vi1J Рік тому

    Great progress! Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting.

  • @tiemanowo
    @tiemanowo Рік тому

    9:37 I do appreciate that somebody have a time and skills to recreate such a board but "come one". This is a large board. There is a lot of free space for bigger components.

  • @jkeelsnc
    @jkeelsnc Рік тому +1

    Good Build. 16 bit dance party!

  • @ripper253
    @ripper253 Рік тому +1

    As someone who was perusing the concept of doing something similar with an A3000 recently, your content sure is timed well!

  • @LeftoverBeefcake
    @LeftoverBeefcake Рік тому +1

    Holy chimichangas that's a lot of work, even with some of the items already populated. Consider this another vote for the full RGB treatment. :)

  • @VenturiLife
    @VenturiLife Рік тому +3

    Next-level soldering skills.

    • @mark12358
      @mark12358 Рік тому +3

      Really it is, he's very (very) good at it.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +3

      Thanks guys, mostly I put it down to good solder and flux although I like to think my skills are getting better.

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife Рік тому +1

      @@CRG A quality solder I discovered goes a long way to making easier soldering. Still some around with silver content and it flows so much better.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      @@VenturiLife I use a leaded solder and since changing to that the difference is unbelievable. Flows really easily and leaves a shiny finish.

  • @michaelcarey
    @michaelcarey Рік тому

    Great video! This looks to be a great project. Very tempted to build one...

  • @zero0ryn
    @zero0ryn Рік тому +8

    Nice one Glen, I think RGB All the way :) You could have fun with the Floppy and LPF LED signals using a pi pico to run the light show. I watched the entire video at 1.75X speed. Your voice is perfectly audable at that speed :) I can't imagine how long that took you to do in real time.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +4

      Honestly I think so far I'm into it for about 20 hours. It's a lot of work but look at what it makes by the end, I think it's worth it.
      Still not sure about RGB but I think it needs some lighting in the case. Maybe something that I can select the colours and brightness on is the way to go.

    • @zero0ryn
      @zero0ryn Рік тому +1

      @@CRG I had a ceramic 68010 chip in my A2000T that I made. You notice the 010 speedup if you have no fastram. There is a very nice pi based flicker fixer that plugs into the genlock port. (Assuming you have a pi zero.)

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel Рік тому +1

    Good work, looks quite a complicated adventure!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Despite the amount of work involved there is nothing overly complicated about it. Of course it gets more difficult when you throw the switch and nothing happens but at least that got sorted in the end.

  • @martindebes414
    @martindebes414 Рік тому

    I think you should go for the most over-the-top Amiga/Commodore case you can manage. Red/Blue. Chicken Lips. Amiga Logo; boing ball; etc

  • @kkuusk
    @kkuusk Рік тому

    Acrylic case to admire it from every angle!

  • @neilblackburn1026
    @neilblackburn1026 Рік тому +1

    I was inspired by this video and am part way though building 2 of these. Been asked to do a 3rd (converting a friends Amiga 500) with a black PCB. As I can only order a minimum of 5, there are some currently available on Ebay if anyone wants to give this a go for themselves.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Sorry for the late reply. Great to hear another few of these are being put together. Feel free to link you're eBay listing.

  • @paulladdie1026
    @paulladdie1026 Рік тому

    Excellent work CRG

  • @Chris-yc3mm
    @Chris-yc3mm Рік тому +4

    I could understand why jlpcb could not solder on the amega specific chips, but why could they not solder that mountain of capacitors for example?

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      Remembering back to when this was ordered they just didn't have stock of some components. In fact even getting some stuff to do ourselves was difficult. Parts were ordered from maybe 4 or 5 different places and some of it had to come from AliExpress. I suppose it just comes down to the current worldwide shortages.

  • @RobR386
    @RobR386 Рік тому +2

    Nice work, its a big board, so not to difficult to solder the SMD parts, they're fiddly but having a decent iron and the correct tools does help. I do this stuff for a living 🙂

  • @AmartharDrakestone
    @AmartharDrakestone Рік тому +3

    For the keyboard case - the guy that made the Checkmate cases, also makes keyboard cases for external Amiga keyboards.

  • @MrLukealbanese
    @MrLukealbanese Рік тому +1

    YES - you hero Glen!! Got to be full RGB, the whole 9 yards.

  • @daspec
    @daspec Рік тому

    If I ever decide to build one of my own, the PCB will be modern black and it goes in a Fractal Design case will tempered glass to showcase the TOASTER!

  • @bwack
    @bwack Рік тому

    Oh, This video started as autoplay. Glad I didn't totally mis this ! I love the build from scratch amigas !

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks glad you enjoyed it. The second part is up now, finishing off the board and getting it into a case.

  • @iangodfrey4518
    @iangodfrey4518 Рік тому

    TOP STUFF!
    Watched it all the way through, even with one of my kids bugging me for ice-cream two thirds of the way in...
    Want to build me one? I'm in Australia!

  • @ancipital
    @ancipital Рік тому +1

    Wow! Flipped through your video - manually doing all that soldering, kudos to you, that is extremely hard, I know I wouldn't be able to manage it at this time without a huge amount of invested time. Amazing stuff.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. Recording it does make it take longer but I think for this one in total about 20 hours. I dare say that without the camera and if you just focused on it there would be no problem getting it all done in half that.

    • @ancipital
      @ancipital Рік тому

      @@CRG Spent hours just getting a sinclair Ql microdrive bare wires back in the socket - cheap sinclair cutting corners! LOL!

  • @42markk42
    @42markk42 Рік тому

    Great build Glen - Go 50/50 on the case, i.e. modify a nice modern gaming case with a window, BUT respray it beige :) Also, I have a good Karcher pressure washer that'll clean that board beautifully for you 👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Voyager_2
    @Voyager_2 Рік тому

    Congratulations! A year back I went for the floppie209 board because every chip is in a socket and its easy to repair but I did take a look at this board, and it looks nice!
    I just received my Denise ITX board but the density of all the smd scares me a little ;-)
    For cleaning I used 2 liters of bio ethanol and a large tube.

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek Рік тому +2

    You did pretty well soldering all of those surface mount components. It's surprising how quickly one improves with a little practice.
    I use similar techniques, and I haven't come across anything I can't solder with just a normal soldering iron and a hot air station. However, if it were me and I came across that tiny diode while ordering the parts, I probably would've downloaded the project from the hub for gits, and modified it to use a more normal sized footprint.
    As for the case, I'm not a huge fan of RGB LEDs. Buuuut if you're going to have a case with a window, you'll need some lighting to be able to see it, so I suggest some kind of programmable RGB LED controller. The only other thing I'd suggest is that I've seen beige-ish (more white) coloured modern cases, so that might be a nice nod to the modern and retro contents.

  • @renepedersen7141
    @renepedersen7141 Рік тому

    Nice work! :D I have also build A2000 board, but a rev.6.2 remake. I look forward to your next video about this machine :)

  • @thumbwarriordx
    @thumbwarriordx Рік тому +1

    I instantly knew that signal diode part number.
    It's honestly the only one I know offhand.
    Was dreading the plot twist where it was installed backwards lol

    • @thumbwarriordx
      @thumbwarriordx Рік тому

      Also I'd honestly be kinda mad if I had to special order the smallest version of the through-hole component I literally have hundreds of at all times.

  • @TheLemminkainen
    @TheLemminkainen Рік тому +1

    When someone asked have you every build you own pc? Yes one new Amiga 2000 :)

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      And this time building it wasn't simply plugging in components 😉

    • @TheLemminkainen
      @TheLemminkainen Рік тому +1

      @@CRG Yeah thats what i meant but they same i build this :) really iam sure you just put parts in :)

  • @247hinkey
    @247hinkey Рік тому +1

    great upload!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks!

  • @pwissink1
    @pwissink1 Рік тому

    Cool build. Good soldering technique. About the case: old style beige case but with a window and light rgb lights.

  • @mogwaay
    @mogwaay Рік тому

    Struggled to watching this build as I'm half way though my own project that I've had to leave hanging due lurgee, work, kids DIY and I'm desperate to get back to it to see if it will work! Seriously, great video and nice to get some soldering tips which will come in handy whenever I get back to my own project! Right, back to cooking...

  • @IkarusKommt
    @IkarusKommt Рік тому

    It is somewhat comforting to know than all those custom chips will eventually expire, and that production of e-waste will finally stop.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      By then we'll hopefully have modern replacements for the customs too 😉

  • @SuperVstech
    @SuperVstech Рік тому

    I have a few of these boards...
    None of the needed parts though.
    I do have a pair of working 2000's though...
    Now I just gotta get em built!

  • @PJBonoVox
    @PJBonoVox Рік тому +1

    Great video bud. I'd say a beige box with a window. To each their own.

  • @jaimecosta2966
    @jaimecosta2966 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant... Love it I subscribed

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

    • @jaimecosta2966
      @jaimecosta2966 Рік тому +1

      @@CRG hi I lived in UK for ouver twenty years I worked for an electronic company in London love it saying that I have left UK ouver twenty five years ago.. I have electronics and conputurrs as a hobby.. My eyes are not very good I am getting old.. With some good lighting I still gett some projects done.. Wish you well

  • @edwincotton1516
    @edwincotton1516 Рік тому

    Great Vid!!! Take a look at BeQueit cases there with RGB and look great also with out, I use the 900 case, and love the point you can switch sides where the glass is to show off the mainboard!

  • @devjock
    @devjock Рік тому

    Your best bet on cleaning the board would probably be Rainbow International. Operating in south Belfast / Bangor according ot the website. The pics on there show them dunking complete CD Players into an ultrasonic bath, so I reckon an a2000 mobo would definitely work as well. Awesome build series my man, looking forward to the second part!

  • @alpaykasal2902
    @alpaykasal2902 Рік тому +1

    Good dance moves at 45:50 !

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      16bit dance party 😉

  • @peddersoldchap
    @peddersoldchap 10 місяців тому

    It would be nice to put it in a brand new A2000 case, but I do know of anyone doing those atm.
    A nice alternative would be the Checkmate case.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @Hrybochok
    @Hrybochok Рік тому

    Great stuff! I always found myself really enjoying watching such re-creation of a retro tech using more modern parts, for me this is some sort of tech p#rn :)
    If question about pc case is still open - I can propose a Phanteks Ethoo Pro lying around and collecting dust in my storage. It may provide that not too modern, but not too old, but with back window n stuff look for this build. Anyway thanks for interesting content :)

  • @priestblood
    @priestblood 11 місяців тому

    Hey thanks for sharing

  • @YogSothoth1969
    @YogSothoth1969 Рік тому

    Wow, what an amount of work!!!! Respect for this!! o7 Cmdr 🙂

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 Рік тому +3

    Of course, we would (or I would) watch all 50 minutes. This is such a nice project. I have seen one for an A4000 in an EATX style too, so it's nice to know there are options. As for the OS: I think if you want to use a CD-ROM you need a newer OS version but I don't remember that for sure. I would personally try to get an as modern case as possible with a window (to see the RGB of course) that also has drive bays. As drive bays are pretty much history these days, this might be a difficult task but getting a floppy drive/Gotek and maybe a CD drive at the very least is nice. Especially since I don't see an external floppy connector on this particular board.
    But either way, this is fascinating. Great job.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +2

      Drive bays in a modern case are really hard to find but at least with Amiga its easy enough to setup everything using WinUAE and especially if you have an easily accessible CF or SD card. I have a case in mind and hopefully it'll be here for the next part.

    • @weepingscorpion8739
      @weepingscorpion8739 Рік тому +1

      @@CRG Of course. I know you can also get USB interfaces for the Amiga, so you could also connect a Gotek and/or a CD drive that way, I think. Anyway, it's just what I would go for. I did myself manage to find a few modernish cases with drive bays. I just don't remember if they were regular ATX or EATX. Likely ATX. Looking forward to the next episode.

  • @WyMustIGo
    @WyMustIGo 5 місяців тому +1

    nice work

    • @CRG
      @CRG  5 місяців тому

      Thanks

  • @jarekjagielski366
    @jarekjagielski366 Рік тому +1

    OK, I never heard of this project until today... might just get my hands on one. Great video, thanks for sharing your experience building it! Wonder if it would work with TF536 for example, would make a sweet setup.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
      It does indeed work with the 536 and I'm considering building one myself for it. I would like one of the full size A2000 accelerator cards but like most things Amiga they are getting a bit too expensive.

  • @josteinkallevik
    @josteinkallevik Рік тому

    Nice build :) reminds me to finish my A4000TX :/ Looking forward to the case, something I can use for my board mabye :) hope you find something vintage correct for the this board.

  • @force4200
    @force4200 Рік тому +1

    Take it to the NeXT level RGB and all 😊

  • @brynjarborgersen8131
    @brynjarborgersen8131 Рік тому +1

    I don't think you need to worry about long videos, mate, at least for me, it didn't feel like it was much more 20min
    Hope you get some Zorro sockets and get to test it out with even more hardware.
    And I swear I shall pack up that 600 during this week

  • @JARVIS1187
    @JARVIS1187 Рік тому +2

    We "watched the video for almost 42 minutes", when you talked about that testing. I'd love to see those parts, too! Just mentioning!
    Great video as usual!
    As for the case: Please do not go the RGB route! Imho that destroys the classic aspect of the Amiga. Modern case would be okay with a window!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      I toyed with the idea of including more of the testing footage etc but when it ultimately ended up just being a bad agnus I thought is there any point in dragging this out for a further 10-15 minutes. Given how long the video is I decided to cut it and just give the highlights. I'll keep it in mind for the future though. Thanks for the feedback.
      As for the case I've got my eye on a nice Corsair 4000D black case with a tinted side window but will see what the rest think.

  • @TimsRetroCorner
    @TimsRetroCorner Рік тому +1

    I've also got a dead A500Plus with battery damage like yours (10+1 power light flashes, but a BLACK screen - haven't figured that out). I was thinking about building an A500++ from it, but now the A2000 is kinda tempting....
    Oh, and Full on RGB, definitely!!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Sounds like it could be Agnus at fault on your board but hopefully not as the 8375 is getting expensive.
      The 2000 board is a great build and I'd highly recommend it if you have the space the full machine would need over a new wedge. It opens the door to Zorro expansions which is something I've never had the chance to play with.
      The new case is on order and some lighting is included. The next part should be out this weekend.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR Рік тому +3

    PCBWAY seem to be more advanced than JCLPCB, Seems that is a place better than anywhere else l.e OSHPARK

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      I can't remember why we went with JLC over PCBWAY, it might just have been cost if I'm honest. Despite the warp in the board it works fine so I'm happy enough.

    • @RealLloyd
      @RealLloyd Рік тому

      @@CRG My first thought was, that you should have to clamp it down or make a jig before any soldering. This might take the stress out of the soldering points after it’s mount in a case.

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai Рік тому +1

    You get a thumbs up for a 50 minute video. Another thumbs up for poking fun at Adrian Black. I love his channel, nice to see another creator also watching his channel. My thoughts is your project is NOT an original A2000. So you should go over the top. If this was a restore, then by all means go original.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks, great to hear from someone who enjoys a longer format video. I've been a big fan of Adrian for a few years now. You might say he has been somewhat of an inspiration for this channel.

  • @lokz9632
    @lokz9632 Рік тому

    I enjoyed watching this video. Great work. What about Checkmate case for it? Would it fit?

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it.
      Unfortunately I don't think the checkmate would work without a major redesign of the rear of that case.

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 Рік тому +1

    Nice project. I believe you can get a Keyrah board to convert an existing A500 keyboard into an external one with casings also being available. I can't remember where I saw it for sure but I think Neil from RMC might have done something like this when he set up an A1500 project. I know it's not a 'professional' cleaning method but many people have been using dishwashers to clean circuit boards with good results (just make sure it's properly dried off before powering it up).
    As for the case, something like the NZXT H7 Flow might be a good fit. It is listed as being EATX compatible and is available in black, white or black and white. The black version sports a tinted window which could be a good shout since the basic green of the motherboard is not exactly pretty. It could end up looking a lot better in conjunction with some RGB fans or a lighting kit (since as an Amiga this system is unlikely to need much in the way of airflow). The biggest problem is that pretty much all modern cases don't allow for a floppy drive which is why you might end up looking on Ebay for an older case unless you are willing to use an external drive.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      The A500 keyboard can be easily converted for use as an A2000 keyboard and thats my plan until I can find something better. I'm not sure if RMC has done a video on it but I know certainly GadgetUK has.
      I don't think I could put this in the dishwasher. Yes I seen loads of folk do it but on the chance it'd go wrong for me I don't think its worth it.
      I have a case in mind for this build and yes finding one with an external drive bay is near impossible but I hope I have a work around for that.

  • @Fred_le_lorrain
    @Fred_le_lorrain Рік тому

    Hi, it's a very great job. Nice to see an eternal Amiga in 2022.
    And what case to use with this mainboard? Cruel dilemna.
    I hope next video very soon. Bye.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks. Part 2 should be ready for Sunday. Everything is now here its just a matter of getting it done!

  • @CobraTheSpacePirate
    @CobraTheSpacePirate Рік тому +1

    The A500+ 8375 Agnes is totally different Agnes from A500 8375. The pin out is even different. To upgrade an A2000 to 2MB CHIP RAM with an A500+ AGNES you need an adapter that remaps the pin outs and also adds they extra CHIP RAM. I think. You need like the 8375 (318069-16 only) (PAL) - Amiga 500 from Rev 6 (PAL); Amiga 2000 model B from Rev 6.4 (PAL) or any PAL 8372A from a Rev 6 A500. At least that is what I thought from first glance. I didn't watch the whole video but I just heard you say that you used the chips from and A500+.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      This board has various jumpers to set which let you use any of the various Agnus chips.
      The issue with this one which I initially blamed on a bad Agnus, with some later testing, turned out to be a bad Gary.

  • @brianlhughes
    @brianlhughes Рік тому +1

    I bought the Atari 520 ST back in the day, but would have been happy to have had the Amiga instead. I had a blast coding in Assembler on the 68000.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Only something I can dream of doing to be honest. I did a bit of basic coding back in the day but wouldn't know were to start these days. Always enjoyed it though, maybe I should try to pick it up again.

    • @brianlhughes
      @brianlhughes Рік тому

      this extension for visual studio lets you code on Windows 10. You can debug using an emulator and when your finished transfer the program to the Amiga.

  • @stevesether
    @stevesether Рік тому +1

    Nice job.
    I really like this idea of giving a second like to an Amiga 500 as an Amiga 2000.
    For the case? I think I'm with you, and I wouldn't want a boring beige box. I'm not sure an Amiga really has the aesthetic of a full on gamer box either.
    Maybe some kind of in-between? Something with some style, but still represents something from the old aesthetic. Since this is a 500 turned into a 2000... maybe the case should have some outward styling elements of a 500, but in "full box" 2000 model.
    I honestly always liked that look of Amia 500/600 and the Plus/4 with the cooling vents.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      I have a case in mind for this and all being well it'll feature in the next part this coming weekend.

  • @prozacgodretro
    @prozacgodretro Рік тому

    wait... so you could make a rack mount amiga.... HMMMMMMM...
    lol who am I kidding, that's a LOT of work! would be nifty though. Little Amiga server.

  • @WolfiiiiBoy
    @WolfiiiiBoy Рік тому +1

    super video :)

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      Thanks

  • @rebeccaschade3987
    @rebeccaschade3987 Рік тому +1

    This project seems so tempting. I have no idea where to get a donor chipset from though. Perhaps something for the future.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Easiest option is like I did and take it from an A500 or A500+ then add the bluster chip.

  • @akkudakkupl
    @akkudakkupl Рік тому

    This is fucken cool. What would be cooler is if some or all of the chipset got replaced by CPLD's so we don't have to source pricy and scarce chips (and can have the max chip RAM configuration for cheap/get AGA in this form factor without ZIII).

  • @do0ranfrump260
    @do0ranfrump260 Рік тому +1

    This is amazing.. now we need some one to start reproducing the custom chips. Seriously whoever owns the rights please release them into the public domain.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Certainly for AGNUS anyway, the originals and in particular the 8375 are getting very expensive.

  • @DaveVelociraptor
    @DaveVelociraptor Рік тому +1

    Brilliant video! Did you at any point think "I've taken on too much" and regret it? For the keyboard did you consider a checkmate?

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it.
      To answer your questions...
      No, I didn't ever think it was too much work from the point of view of the assembly, if anything I enjoyed it with the anticipation of it being finished and booting. Of course when it didn't there was that sinking feeling of what could possibly be wrong and especially after I fixed the clock. Ultimately it worked though out so all good.
      As for the keyboard, yes I looked at the checkmate but just now it's a little expensive. I'm already about £500 deep into this project and can't afford the £70 for it. Maybe after Christmas.

  • @hiteck007
    @hiteck007 Рік тому +1

    That's a staggeringly big job, my compliments for your patience although I personally hate SMD type boards

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      A year ago I might have agreed with you but honestly now I think SMD is easier than through hole, especially when its the larger pitch SMD stuff. That SRAM and some of the chicken feed was tricky enough.

    • @samp3413
      @samp3413 Рік тому

      ​​​@@CRG You can use radial electrolytics instead of SMD, they make them small enough these days in those values. Just bend both leads 90 degrees outwards from the base of the cap then trim the excess. SMDs tend to leak, so I avoid using them

  • @bobschaus488
    @bobschaus488 Рік тому +1

    I would say go rgb on the case but light it with the check mark colours.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      That would be cool. I've now got the case and some stuff for inside it but there is always room to add a check mark later.

  • @HansCampbell
    @HansCampbell 7 місяців тому +1

    Is there a surface mount parts kit for this board? I am considering buying one and building it. 😃

  • @al.d9592
    @al.d9592 Рік тому

    Good work, what version of the pcb did you build? I have one laying around - still haven’t decided if I want to pay the hefty price for the parts…

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight Рік тому

    I would look for an old 'flip top' or rack mount case- as a starting point and maybe mod that - as its the closest your going to get to the tank of a case that the original '2000's came with, if you were so inclined you could always take a dremel and a couple of cans of paint to it for something unique

  • @GboabGman
    @GboabGman Рік тому

    I have an ultrasonic cleaner that will fit your pcb, only problem is i'm in Glasgow and you would either need to bring it over or post it over.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 Рік тому +1

    Great video Glen! Who's discord was it again? ;) Looking forward to part 2!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      Can't remember, some guy who works on carpet 😉🤣
      Thanks Chris for allowing us to take over your discord for all the discussion around this build. Part 2 coming this weekend I hope.

    • @GadgetUK164
      @GadgetUK164 Рік тому

      @@CRG Correction : Worked on carpet =D No worries! Thought you were deliberately ghosting me for a minute!

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      @@GadgetUK164 Absolutely not mate and please don't think that. I'm forever grateful for the support you and others from your discord have given me over the years.

  • @simant5361
    @simant5361 Рік тому

    Plain case with lighting strips

  • @RobertBullock
    @RobertBullock 11 місяців тому

    I have an original 2000 with SCSI card and iirc a Ram expansion. Need to get it out and get back into it. Scsi2sd card. And I have some ram for the scsi card to install.

  • @kreskogym
    @kreskogym Рік тому

    Nice job! But knife solder tip is much beter for smd components!

  • @mikegravgaard340
    @mikegravgaard340 10 місяців тому

    What about a Lian Li case with window? Genuinely wonder the difference in heat between an original 2000 and the surface mount A2000.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR 5 місяців тому

    There is a FPGA replacement for AGNUS and others follow from the project Amiga custom chip replacement project

    • @CRG
      @CRG  5 місяців тому

      Last I heard that was still a work in progress, is it finished now?

  • @danielmarksel6829
    @danielmarksel6829 Рік тому +1

    Open frame case (ie thermaltake) - Could we have an approx cost of PCB + Kit of parts (excluding Amiga salvaged parts) ?

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Of course and sorry for not covering it in the video. Cost for PCB and components was around £300. To date though I'm probably up to around £500 total with the donor A500+, PSU, Case, Gotek etc.

  • @bobwatson957
    @bobwatson957 Рік тому +1

    Hi CRG, I'm also looking for a big Amiga. I was wondering where you ordered the parts from. Thanks.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому +1

      The GitHub is linked in the videos description, you can get the files needed to order boards along with the bom there.
      Our parts came from various places, components were ordered from a mixture of mouser and digikey. Slots, sockets and the cpld for bluster came from AliExpress. The chipset came out of an old A500+.
      We had to use so many outlets due to the component shortage.

  • @newsolution5669
    @newsolution5669 9 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone have documentation for these specialized integrated circuits and 68060 processors? Where can I download documentation for these chips? Does anyone have any information on this?! Because I would love to see how they built it back then.

  • @Stefan_Payne
    @Stefan_Payne Рік тому

    About the Case:
    There is an issue with modern Cases. They don't have any external 3,5" bays that you need for the floppy or a GOTEK.
    So that's an issue. Heck even internal 3,5" bays are becoming rare these days...
    5¼" Bays are not as hard, so you need at least a 3½" to 5¼" Frame thing and then use a Case that is made that allows E-ATX and has a 5¼" Bay.
    The be quiet Dark Base 900 would fit that, but that's not cheap...
    So you might want to look for older SERVER/WORKSTATION cases perhaps?
    Or go with a good old Desktop one...

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      Yes new cases with external drive bays are very hard to find. I've got a plan though.

    • @Stefan_Payne
      @Stefan_Payne Рік тому

      @@CRG Silverstone Grandia GD-08 or GD09 perhaps? Though you need a 5¼" Adaptor, but that shouldn't be a Problem. A black FDD (Cover) is also something you might want.
      Skinflint (UK Version of Geizhals) should give you a good idea of what you could get and has some nice search options as well.

  • @mcochran9860
    @mcochran9860 Рік тому +1

    It's the dimensions of the board that decides the case you can use, My super micro server boards are best put in a old mac pro g5 case, the one with only 1 cdrom drive. Because the other cases I bought that was eatx Just wouldn't fit it. I bought one, thinking all eatx was same size. A old flip top ibm type case also a good choice for me and my dual cpu server boards, that are huge and not standard sized. The problem I had with the ibm pc case was some graphic cards/gpu's too tall with power cables attached. So how tall are the cards and cables going to be? Things to be considered. My mac pro 5 version of my server builds I think work the best and have the most room for things.. If you like Hacked retro. Seems to be the roomiest case not too expensive on ebay.

    • @CRG
      @CRG  Рік тому

      I have now since built it into a case which you can see in the part 2 video, the last 10 minutes or so if you want to skip to that part.
      One thing I quickly learned is that EATX isn't a defined standard in terms of board size. this board is 330x305mm and the only way I could figure out what case to use was to look for one with 4 screw holes in a row for mounting the motherboard.

  • @Stealthy_Sloth
    @Stealthy_Sloth Рік тому

    Can we get together and bring the Amiga company back to life running linux as an OS?

  • @cod.liver.failure
    @cod.liver.failure Рік тому

    RGB, maybe you can get the amiga tick in there somewhere.

  • @PeetHobby
    @PeetHobby Рік тому +1

    9:50 That are stupid tiny pad, the designer of that cad drawing didn't calculate in for handsoldering, and there is room for bigger pads. I always swap those drawing for a generic 0604 pads (or what the size is) if I come across components drawing with tiny pads like that.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 Рік тому

    Dood the Mac Classic Reloaded MoBo just shipped. You can clear most flux like near ultrasonic cleaning by using nail polish remover.

  • @HansCampbell
    @HansCampbell 7 місяців тому +1

    Your soldering tip is too large for those small SMT parts. Also, you should be using liquid flux, not paste flux. 🤔