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In some countries they sey how thing are, you waste money and time if you start handling feelings. They are working and that is all, it is not personal. broplems needs to be handled and if they are handled fast and firmly you save time and money, it is business not kindercarden.
ребят, я нашел вашу группу несколько лет назад, и это произвело на меня огромное впечатление. спасибо вам за музыку, за энергию. за продюсера немного стыдно, как-то некрасиво на камеру себя вести так, разговаривая подобным образом с артистами. относиться вот так, как к вещам - не кайф
Was worried about the producer being a POS and taking advantage of these members in the group and unfortunately it is true. I hope they all get through and find strength among eachother.
You do understand this band is the same as a UK boy band or Korean K pop band? Watch the clip again to see the producer is everything and the band members just wearing the costumes and can be replaced at any time.
@@abbeystump OK but think of BLACKPINK I don't think there would have been a successful replacement in case one of the girls had left the group. It was an all or nothing, that went really well over many years. I think they stopped operation because Lisa had become so famous that she can make more money with entirely different undertakings, like French fashion business. Mediocre K-Pop bands today are a total frustration. After blackpink everyone has to improve or stay home and do a day job. With blackpink, the producer could not play his whims. There were incidents, it was all over the media. Seems he had to back down several times, or lose money.
The fact that he is able to randomly select Siberian people with no musical background and they can perform at this level speaks more about their ability as performers than his as a producer
Может его методы жесткие... но на самом деле он сдерживает звездную болезнь девочек. Тысячи примеров, когда молодые люди рушат свою карьеру и жизнь только лишь потому, что кто-то не сдержал их. Да, это цинично. Да, это не очень хорошо. Но на самом деле 90% продюсеров так и работают. Сколько судеб сломалось от наркотиков, алкоголя... Да и просто наплевательское отношение к себе молодых людей...
Am I the only person who finds Andrei repulsive and creepy? He tried so hard to make sure we are left with no doubt that it is all about and by HIM, and that the young women are completely replaceable, like parts of a machine, a machine that is totally under his control. That’s why he humiliated that one young woman in front of the camera. He was establishing his dominance to the world. There is so much more I could say and many questions I could ask. I know his kind and I don’t like what I see. I just hope there is someone keeping an eye on him and on the girls to make sure they are SAFE. One thing he does NOT have: he doesn’t have the voices and the spirit that OTYKEN have. He can design sets, write the music, select clothes to his hearts content, but without the musicians none of it comes alive. He didn’t even give them credit for that.
This is not the culture in Russia. It's just that the person is like that - a tyrant and inadequate. Everything that was on camera is just the tip of the iceberg. The podcast with the former members of the group is on my channel.
I was very surprised to see the producer being so busy taking credit for EVERYTHING. And even telling the band members that they are nothing without him. That leaves me a bit cold... Girls, and Ach, I hope you realize that you are world class performers and that you can continue to be that with ANY producer. I believe ANY high class producer in his/her right mind would LOVE to work with you. You are absloutely wonderful.
A lot of Russian/Ukrainian musical acts are set up like the boy and girl bands of the 1990's, here in the USA and UK. The producers form, manage and control all of the band's doings. So, they truly do create these bands and of course should have the control as the performers are employees and are free to leave, if they don't like the situation.
Русский собрал и организовал эту группу, он и поддерживает порядок в женском коллективе, что совсем не просто. Никто не мешает девочкам организоваться отдельно, если кому не нравится.Но по другому нельзя, не получилось бы ничего без строгой дисциплины. Это группа не будет существовать без своего продюсера. Если что то будет, то местный фольклор.
Это 100% продюсерский проект. Девочки - просто наёмные работники. Здесь нет "группы" или "коллектива единомышленников", просто бизнес-проект, коммерческое предприятие.
I can't believe this video was released... it makes the producer look awful and ruins the magic of the band. The thumbnail is showing him verbally abusing the singer... And as far as I'm understanding, he's not an indigenous man but casts indigenous performers and presents the band as such. I remember seeing questions of validity a few years ago, and debates on why Otyken doesn't provide clear lyrics and translations. Whether they were a fake indigenous band. I was always on the fence but wary. Loved the music but didn't know enough about the culture to be sure. This video has just validated those concerns. And it's from the horses mouth. I'm... honestly baffled why the producer thought this was a good idea.
Всё правильно сказали, да коренные жители Сибири и Севера сами много показывают свои традиции, развивают этно туризм и свои национальные блюда, многое можно найти в интернете про народы сибирские и не в искажённом виде, из первых уст. Неприятно видеть как рассказывает продюссер что он популязирует народы эти, как барин о своих наложницах свысока.
I agree with you. Right now I feel disppointed. I thought this band was created organically, with people that decided to create music together. This feels artificial. I get the business part and well, he has taken some decisions that have helped them somehow...? because they have achieved a huge success worldwide. I can't talk about how he deals with the members because I'm not sure if this is a cultural thing, I'm ignorant in that aspect. But after watching this video, I ended up feeling like I've been supporting something although beautiful, it's not that deep nor real? I still think they're amazing and they do an excellent work, they have a lot of talent and somehow are helping to promote their culture (even though there must be more groups and individuals who do the same and they're not that popular), but I wonder if the members are really okay and if the producer is taking it too far, just like US music industry - because he seems to share the same vision as American producers...
@@InannaIrina I mean he definitively borrowed the award-winning toxic formula from K-pop (which in turn is an extreme cultural blend of boy bands + Korean culture). Just grab a bunch of good looking and talented women, dress them up, make them dance, find a gimmick, cash in
Это простой русский национальный мужской менталитет. Он просто не знает как относятся западные мужчины к женщинам. И как западные женщины ценят себя и защищены законом. В общем он сделал огромную ошибку показав себя в настоящем свете. Он просто не знает как люди могут миллионами отписываться в знак протеста против любого произвола. Что никакие твои заслуги не защитят тебя если ты так или иначе оступился перед поклонниками твоего творчества.
No need to change band members only need to change producer and the world is full of more skilled and professional people than that communist clown, who only lacks the clown wig.
I'm so sorry to say this, but c'mon! Otyken represents Siberia indeed but this producer does not! Even if he says in this short documentarty, he is the one who does "everything" behind the scenes. I love these girls, I really love their work, their art and their culture, but this "poducer" guy just made me feel sad for these girls. So sad! Мне очень жаль это говорить, но, черт возьми! Отыкен действительно представляет Сибирь, но этот продюсер - нет! Даже если он говорит в этом короткометражном документальном фильме, он тот, кто делает «все» за кулисами. Я люблю этих девушек, я действительно люблю их работу, их искусство и их культуру, но этот «продюсер» просто заставил меня пожалеть этих девушек. Так грустно!
I see all the comments in English say the same thing, the thing I was about to write a comment on. What an ego on that man. Not only did he think it was a good idea to show what a butt-hole he is, but to be proud of it. Wow.
5:34 the man sat at his table and said to his bread, 'you were nothing but a grain of wheat in a field until i found you, you are nothing if not for me' Love heard the man and told the sky the sky told the wind a great storm came that flooded his wheat field, destroyed his house, took the mans bread from his table and swept it on to another mans table.
Удивительно насколько он мерзкий человек. Он потом поверил, конечно, какой он поездатый, а над ним ржут. А он думает он вот такой чё-то может. Недослав такой.
Yeesh! Sergey sounds like an awful dictator of a man! I wouldn't be surprised if this whole enterprise broke up very soon. If he is brazen enough to scold and belittle the women in front of the cameras, imagine what a terrible time it must be when the cameras are turned off?! I now feel sorry for these poor girls! That sucks, because I thought they seemed really awesome for years. I didn't know they were being run by a narcissistic megalomaniac.
This is not the culture in Russia. It's just that the person is like that - a tyrant and inadequate. Everything that was on camera is just the tip of the iceberg. The podcast with the former members of the group is on my channel.
They are smart though, if they play it well, they can benefit from such undertakings with tourism and trade etc., though currently mostly within BRICS. With trade comes power. The situation in BRICS and Eastern Asia is slightly changing towards more populism, in this case means everyone wants it to be real, like the 800 million Chinese folks, allegedly saved from subsistence, having a stable home and jobs. Stability and international competition work much better, if people have some hope and unnecessary humiliation can be avoided.
Не пишу комментарии, но решил сделать исключение. Еще в прошлом году, читая интервью этого продюссера, сложилось стойкое негативное чувство о нем из за его пафоса и высокомерия. Второе: поражает насколько безвольные девчонки в группе, боятся сказать слово, чтобы не попасть в опалу. Это же как их надо запугивать, чтобы довести до такого... Выглядит как рабство. Третье: Надеюсь, кто нибудь из достойных продюсеров, который будет ценить участников, пригласит их. И пусть они будут называться по другому, ничего страшного, ведь ключевым является не название, а ее участники, которые уже известны. RT молодцы, что не вырезали эти нападки продюссера и зажатость участников группы из сюжета.
I enjoy the music and the performers, I do not like the manager taking so much credit, to many times. artists are taken advantage of. Best to the members of the band you are great.
Allright i will be honest with ya.. I understand that Andrey is supposed to be the brain behind this whole thing, i also understand that the band wouldnt be a thing without him as he not so subtly conveys this to us in the video.. But when you are making a behind the scenes short, maybe.. just maybe.. Do not display your performers as replaceable dolls and especially do not humiliate them in front of a camera and before the fans in such a patronizing way. Im sorry that i had to write something so negative here, because i do like your music, but this video will leave a bad taste in the mouths of many people.
YIKES. Instead of providing a fantastic insight into the band and how they developed as a group both social and culturally wise, the producer left me really worried, disgusted and uncomfortable! I hope the band find the strength to free themselves from this terrible man and become more independent and do what they like. I could not finish this video after seeing how he spoke to one of them at a photo shoot and I feel a bit ashamed as someone with Russian background, seeing how another Russian treated these indigenous people and their culture.
Oh hell no, I can't believe they'd even show the director acting like such an ass behind the scenes. (Keep in mind, if that’s what he’s willing to show on camera, imagine what he’s like off camera) It explains a lot about why so many members have been leaving the group. The way he treated Tsveta (starting at 5:26) was absolutely unacceptable. Honestly, if he ever spoke like that to someone I care about, I’d scold the hell out of him... The members deserve so much better than this kind of disrespect.
I love Otyken and all they represent. The Producer just ruined the whole experience. He is like a character out of "Taken" What an arrogant and awful person. This did not advance the brand. I like to be positive about people in general but when people reveal this about themselves in a public forum, it makes me wonder how worse they are in reality.
A good band manager does not humiliate his band member in public. I wish I could rescue these talented performers . They deserve better. I will no longer watch any uploads from this band as long as this guy is their “producer “.
Is this how he makes himself feel better because he's not the public face of the band? They get all of the love and praise from fans, so he belittles and verbally abuses them behind the scenes? Suddenly, it makes sense why so many of our favorites have quit. I love Otyken, but now I feel bad and negative about it. Sad really, that they have to work like this. I've been verbally abused by bosses before, and it destroys pieces of you, little by little. You might not even notice it until many years later. Yikes...
Yes, me too. And I couldn't believe my eyes when the always smiling and fun-making Tsveta 🥰, the sunshine of the group and one of its long-time members, was treated like THAT. How has she been able to bear that all these years? Having seen her and admiring her for long time in all their videos, I never would have expected such a background. I love her proud and unimpressed look at 6:11.
If this were a western production, we would be entirely sure this was scripted as with any aggressive reality show. They make a buck with cynical schadenfreude.
Судя по комментариям видео вызвало не тот эффект, на который рассчитывали его создатели. Если только они не хотели вызвать волну негатива и отвращения.
I think that one can be strict or disciplined without having to hurt the dignity of the group members. I think that sometimes the pressure on the group leader makes him lose emotional control over himself. The members of the group make a great effort and have been very professional, they also deserve consideration as humans, they are not slaves to anyone, even if they are paid for their work; it must be appreciated that they leave everything to be able to continue in the group and contribute their talents in a generous way. This comment is for the leader and representative of the group. Thank you! Pienso que se puede ser estricto o disciplinado sin tener que herir la dignidad de los integrantes del grupo. Pienso que a veces la presión sobre el líder del grupo hace que pierda el control emocional sobre sí mismo. Los integrantes del grupo hacen un gran esfuerzo y han sido muy profesionales, ellos también merecen consideración como humanos, no son esclavos de nadie, aunque les paguen por su trabajo; hay que valorar que dejan todo para poder seguir en el grupo y aportar sus talentos de manera generosa. Este comentario es para el líder y representante del grupo. ¡Gracias!
❤️🔥✌️ Group members are all very talented, but this producer is disrespectful and arrogant. And he's doing all of it in front of a camera. Imagine his behavior in closed places... I wasn't expecting something like that, and it made me very sad. Wow.
@@painkeller20 two of the girls just left a few months ago and you should hear and see the interview they gave to expose this problem and the toxic environment they had to perform in, this is not for show.
We don’t want to hear from the “producer”! We want to hear from the artists and learn more about their life! Get rid of this unfriendly egotistical producer when u have a chance!
@MusicalZombie This "producer" isn't a musical genius, lyrics aren't that sophisticated. These girls would do much better under a Western management and producer. Not only would they be able to tour the world (no Russian sanctions), but actually earn money. I want to bet that this "producer" is hogging 90% of all income too. If he treats them like peasants, he will be for sure stealing their money. People don't watch/listen OTYKEN coz of him, but coz of the performers.
Просто "писаный красавец" сей продюсер и руководитель группы, потому как показал себя во всей красе лишь только на 120%, подтвердив информацию от девушек уже покинувших группу. Причем, девушки внезапно ушедшие из данного проекта многое явно недосказали в своих интервью, крайне аккуратно и тактично поднимая эту неприятную для них тему. И если он такое позволяет себе публично, то страшно представить как он унижает участниц группы вне камеры. Разве что беспрестанно лупит розгами и мордует девушек не только словесно??? И я теперь сильно сомневаюсь, что этот самый Андрей не психически больной человек. 🤨
Helpfully Otyken gets away from this producer and finds some freedom to perform on their own terms in the US! I can't image the hell they must deal with being controlled by a psycho like that. We would love to have you in the US!
@@zewruszewrus3903вы просто не понимаете всю трагедию ситуации. Комментатор выше прав. Продюсер просто себя закопал в глазах западных мужчин. Так нельзя относится у женщине.
Почему продюссер позволяет себе такие высказывания? Говорить девушке "ты никто" ни при каких условиях нельзя. Цвета ангел как и все девушки коллектива. Надеюсь, что группа будет существовать и процветать, но уже без такого отношения грубого.
so it is true all the rumors! i know why Otamay Kunchari maya left the band what a disgusting man. i really feel sorry for the members.specially tsveta.
I knew something was wrong when Otamay and Kunchari left Otyken. The way you spoke too them is crazy. “When Found you, you were nothing”, this producer is disgusting
@@Mishapashin13 много грязи здесь льется и за и против, но надо быть объективными - про какую неизвестность вы говорите? Не умаляя достоинств Медоноса, но Маргарита, Ксения продолжают заниматься творчеством в выбранном сегменте, Алина и Александра выбрали семейное счастье. Евгений и Михаил тоже при делах.
I've worked at a few agencies and know many Andrei's. They wrongly believe their creativity gives them license to treat others around them horribly. I hope that the beauty of the band's music continues to outshine the ugliness of the producer's character.
Да уж, хорошо тут подсказали про видео, а точнее интервью с бывшими участницами и мои подозрения полностью подтвердились. Бедные девчонки, хотя надо сказать такая ерунда не только в шоу-бизнесе, в других областях ситуация не лучше бывает, поэтому нужно внимательно читать договор и должностную инструкцию и знать свои права. Увы понимание всего этого приходит только с возрастом и опытом. А вообще женский коллектив, это ещё тот серпентарий.
I thought this band was created organically, with people that decided to create music together. This feels artificial. I get the business part and well, he has taken some decisions that have helped them somehow...? because they have achieved a huge success worldwide. Clearly, he has a vision and works hard with all the members. I can't talk about how he deals with them because I'm not sure if this is a cultural thing, I'm ignorant in that aspect. But after watching this video, I ended up feeling like I've been supporting something although beautiful, it's a performance, just as he said, "a fantasy". In terms or marketing and business, it works. I still think they're amazing and they do an excellent work, they have a lot of talent and somehow are helping to promote their culture (even though there must be more groups and individuals who do the same and they're not that popular), but I wonder if the members are really okay and if the producer is taking it too far, just like US music industry - because he seems to share the same vision as American producers...
My beautiful indigenous people ...still.talked down to & treated as slaves. The "Esau Spirit" of the producer is UTTERLY SICKENING! 😡 What would he do if you all left ALL AT ONCE!!! (surely he own a the publishing & the name) But you can START ANEW IN FREEDOM!
@@ИмяФамилия-ч5цхочешь сказать, он по-другому с русскими бы говорил? 🤡 продюсер женат на представительнице малых сибирских народов, какой тут шовинизм? 🤡
@@OTYKEN He's a POS... This video made him look awful and ruined a lot of the magic of Otyken... I hope you can remember you have value and fans even without his music and writing.
The girls should find a better producer than this guy. I'm absolutely disgusted with the poor girl's treatment in front of the cameras. I'm sure there are a lot of genuinely good producers in siberia who can do better than this guy.
Also I'll never be able to listen to it again. Wtf is that P Diddy / 2000's Hollywood vibe? That's so sad. Hope these talented artists will find other ways of performing, away from that archaic thing who seems to think he's a god. Man...
Margarita and Ksenia have been performing their own songs since leaving Otyken. Had heard rumours about this guy long time back and always wondered if they were true. Tsveta next?
I Love OTYKEN but I'll have a really hard time to listen a song of this band again, because of the producer. I can't support that toxic behavior in any way.
Бас гитаристка супер красивая девочка.. Карабас Барабас собрал себе на старости лет цветник.. и рубит бабло. Нормальный проект! Девчонки, вы набирайтесь опыта, пригодится для самостоятельной деятельности.)
My fave is Genesis. It's so dancable, I love the growls, the throat singing, the rhythm. I love a lot of the stuff you guys do live, I've been obsessed since I found you all. I just love it.
Amamos a este grupo, por su defensa de la música tribal, por defender su origen y expresarlo donde vayan. Nuestros totales respeto por OTYKEN. Saludos desde Argentina y Urugua. Proyecto Mentor 2025. Мы любим эту группу за их защиту племенной музыки, за защиту своего происхождения и выражение его, где бы они ни находились. Наше полное уважение к OTYKEN. Привет из Аргентины и Уругвая. Менторский проект 2025. We love this group, for their defense of tribal music, for defending their origin and expressing it wherever they go. Our total respect for OTYKEN. Greetings from Argentina and Uruguay. Mentor Project 2025.
When music from around the world such as bill x , exhibit, and others are intrested in working with your band you will have NO PROBLEM FINDING A NEW PRODUCER. good luck and rock on,
Producer allows band to play in Dubai, Why because it a country where it acceptable to treat women like shit. That is why ocyken don't perform in civilized nations like the United States of America 🇺🇸.
These girls should change to a Western management and producer. So they are not affected by Russian sanctions and can actually tour the world and start earning money. Do you want to bet that the "producer" is also hogging 90% of the income? Someone like him, treating his artists like peasants, would do that. That's basically stealing, who's the real artist here?? This "producer" isn't special, his lyrics aren't sophisticated and it's not hard to design indigenous clothing. This group has fans because of the performers, not because of that narcissistic Russian man.
@@ИмяФамилия-ч5ц и в чем проблема? У вас патент на культуру что ли ? Ну снимай тогда джинсы и кроссовки, надевай шкуры, хорош носить одежду чужой культуры.
here it turned out to be Andrej Anatoljevič, he is probably the same as Kristina and Liana discussed. He can be strict, but he doesn't have to humiliate his band members and he willingly included them in this documentary. he could talk to them calmly and politely. I also believe the way he treated Alina, he would deserve a slap for that. Tsevilma, you have great light and goodness in you, I salute you and send you much love and light. You are an angel.
I'm actually sorry I watched this. I always thought they were a group of happy people doing what they loved not people ruled by a tyrant. Puts me in mind of the Jacksons. Should have known though. I'll just feel sorry watching them now. Maybe not even watch them at all anymore.
Kinda thought it was natives bringing their culture and music known. Apparently its just a niche version of nsync. Ugh, what are the odds Azyan and producer are banging?
@@MCL198027 Ew. But also, it could be diminished to a bastardized version of traditional music, which is super popular nowadays. Mix mongol throat singing with metal, siberian with electro or rap, turkish and arabic with hip hop, classical guitar with metal, hip hop with rap, japanese shamisen to metal or rock, chinese and tradtional russian to rap, gypsy to russian polka, flamenco into a 1000 styles of latin music, african beats to latin music, and the list never ends, they've been doing this for hundreds of years.
I really enjoy hearing and watching this band but had no idea that the members had little autonomy. I hope the creator/producer treats them better than what is shown in this video.
Агрессивное поведение результат детских психотравм, которые есть у каждого, но не каждый над этим работает, считая свою токсичную дурь "изюминкой характера", теша свою самовлюбленность-нарциссизм... ...бородатые не повзрослевшие дети... Ведь у ребёнка отсутствует внутренняя ответственность за последствия взаимо-действий... В основном, среди разных руководителей, большинство нарциссы-психопаты, неэкологично для окружения компенсируют свои психотравмы... Взрослеем родные! Бережно и нежно к друг другу... 💖
@@Elza.27 Это как бы не дает право разговаривать в таком тоне с девушками. Адекватным поведением такое не назовешь. Неудивительно, что уходят. Уйдут и эти, если выводов не будет. Как в сказке будет "осталась старуха у разбитого корыта"
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а если ваш этот продюсер скажет, что он решает кому донаты получать?
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Комменты лучше отключать на такие видео. И все будут довольны🙏
@@Николай_Николаев why would you turn it off ? You don't like people pointing out that their producer is a shit human ?
If the producer is comfortable talking like this to a band member in front of the camera, I wonder how he talks to them off camera.
I was wondering the same thing. I did not appreciate how he treated them at all.
That's the culture in Russia.
@@geraldestabrooks8330, that strict culture they have in Russia, is the reason why they dominated most Olympic sports and other performances.
In some countries they sey how thing are, you waste money and time if you start handling feelings. They are working and that is all, it is not personal.
broplems needs to be handled and if they are handled fast and firmly you save time and money, it is business not kindercarden.
yup
ребят, я нашел вашу группу несколько лет назад, и это произвело на меня огромное впечатление. спасибо вам за музыку, за энергию.
за продюсера немного стыдно, как-то некрасиво на камеру себя вести так, разговаривая подобным образом с артистами. относиться вот так, как к вещам - не кайф
Was worried about the producer being a POS and taking advantage of these members in the group and unfortunately it is true. I hope they all get through and find strength among eachother.
Yeah he seems like a real dickhead. I love the band. He would be nothing without all of them.
You do understand this band is the same as a UK boy band or Korean K pop band? Watch the clip again to see the producer is everything and the band members just wearing the costumes and can be replaced at any time.
@abbeystump Oh I get that. I don't like when people treat others as expendable just because they can.
@@shogun1 Welcome to the music business....
@@abbeystump OK but think of BLACKPINK I don't think there would have been a successful replacement in case one of the girls had left the group. It was an all or nothing, that went really well over many years. I think they stopped operation because Lisa had become so famous that she can make more money with entirely different undertakings, like French fashion business. Mediocre K-Pop bands today are a total frustration. After blackpink everyone has to improve or stay home and do a day job. With blackpink, the producer could not play his whims. There were incidents, it was all over the media. Seems he had to back down several times, or lose money.
The fact that he is able to randomly select Siberian people with no musical background and they can perform at this level speaks more about their ability as performers than his as a producer
Agreed. Brother😆
@@thesocraticmethod3223 Even though, I disagree with the methods he uses, your statement is false.
Может его методы жесткие... но на самом деле он сдерживает звездную болезнь девочек. Тысячи примеров, когда молодые люди рушат свою карьеру и жизнь только лишь потому, что кто-то не сдержал их.
Да, это цинично. Да, это не очень хорошо. Но на самом деле 90% продюсеров так и работают. Сколько судеб сломалось от наркотиков, алкоголя... Да и просто наплевательское отношение к себе молодых людей...
Уймитесь!
На все воля всевышнего!!
Am I the only person who finds Andrei repulsive and creepy? He tried so hard to make sure we are left with no doubt that it is all about and by HIM, and that the young women are completely replaceable, like parts of a machine, a machine that is totally under his control. That’s why he humiliated that one young woman in front of the camera. He was establishing his dominance to the world.
There is so much more I could say and many questions I could ask. I know his kind and I don’t like what I see. I just hope there is someone keeping an eye on him and on the girls to make sure they are SAFE.
One thing he does NOT have: he doesn’t have the voices and the spirit that OTYKEN have. He can design sets, write the music, select clothes to his hearts content, but without the musicians none of it comes alive. He didn’t even give them credit for that.
No you are right and you are not alone, it is absolutely disgusting behaviour and abusive. Despicable little man.
This is not the culture in Russia. It's just that the person is like that - a tyrant and inadequate. Everything that was on camera is just the tip of the iceberg. The podcast with the former members of the group is on my channel.
They are his slaves. They work for him! And if you don't do ask i say I will give you to the wolf's.
I don't even see what she did to make him mad. Was it just for the camera?
It seems he has taken points and inspiration from how Korean producers and reps run K-Pop groups in South Korea. Always replacing members.
I was very surprised to see the producer being so busy taking credit for EVERYTHING. And even telling the band members that they are nothing without him. That leaves me a bit cold...
Girls, and Ach, I hope you realize that you are world class performers and that you can continue to be that with ANY producer. I believe ANY high class producer in his/her right mind would LOVE to work with you. You are absloutely wonderful.
согласен, и рожа лица у него противная
Seriously kind of threw me off too... love them but I feel bad for them now :/
But in a way not that surprising its Russia backward behavior
@@ThePyre666 поведение одного зазнавшегося продюсера никак не связано с Россией
A lot of Russian/Ukrainian musical acts are set up like the boy and girl bands of the 1990's, here in the USA and UK. The producers form, manage and control all of the band's doings. So, they truly do create these bands and of course should have the control as the performers are employees and are free to leave, if they don't like the situation.
Как говорится: "Бей бабу молотом, будет баба золотом".
That producer is going to be without a band one day. Even if he did start everything, he shouldn't treat people like that.
I guess that's why they have such a high turnover rate.
Русский собрал и организовал эту группу, он и поддерживает порядок в женском коллективе, что совсем не просто. Никто не мешает девочкам организоваться отдельно, если кому не нравится.Но по другому нельзя, не получилось бы ничего без строгой дисциплины. Это группа не будет существовать без своего продюсера. Если что то будет, то местный фольклор.
Это 100% продюсерский проект. Девочки - просто наёмные работники. Здесь нет "группы" или "коллектива единомышленников", просто бизнес-проект, коммерческое предприятие.
he will make himself a new band. or hire new models. for the band that ACTUALLY performs these songs
@@ЮджинРосс The producer is just like Putin - an egotistical, narcissistic little man.
I can't believe this video was released... it makes the producer look awful and ruins the magic of the band.
The thumbnail is showing him verbally abusing the singer... And as far as I'm understanding, he's not an indigenous man but casts indigenous performers and presents the band as such.
I remember seeing questions of validity a few years ago, and debates on why Otyken doesn't provide clear lyrics and translations. Whether they were a fake indigenous band. I was always on the fence but wary. Loved the music but didn't know enough about the culture to be sure.
This video has just validated those concerns. And it's from the horses mouth. I'm... honestly baffled why the producer thought this was a good idea.
Всё правильно сказали, да коренные жители Сибири и Севера сами много показывают свои традиции, развивают этно туризм и свои национальные блюда, многое можно найти в интернете про народы сибирские и не в искажённом виде, из первых уст. Неприятно видеть как рассказывает продюссер что он популязирует народы эти, как барин о своих наложницах свысока.
I agree with you. Right now I feel disppointed. I thought this band was created organically, with people that decided to create music together. This feels artificial. I get the business part and well, he has taken some decisions that have helped them somehow...? because they have achieved a huge success worldwide. I can't talk about how he deals with the members because I'm not sure if this is a cultural thing, I'm ignorant in that aspect. But after watching this video, I ended up feeling like I've been supporting something although beautiful, it's not that deep nor real? I still think they're amazing and they do an excellent work, they have a lot of talent and somehow are helping to promote their culture (even though there must be more groups and individuals who do the same and they're not that popular), but I wonder if the members are really okay and if the producer is taking it too far, just like US music industry - because he seems to share the same vision as American producers...
@@InannaIrina I mean he definitively borrowed the award-winning toxic formula from K-pop (which in turn is an extreme cultural blend of boy bands + Korean culture). Just grab a bunch of good looking and talented women, dress them up, make them dance, find a gimmick, cash in
Это простой русский национальный мужской менталитет. Он просто не знает как относятся западные мужчины к женщинам. И как западные женщины ценят себя и защищены законом. В общем он сделал огромную ошибку показав себя в настоящем свете. Он просто не знает как люди могут миллионами отписываться в знак протеста против любого произвола. Что никакие твои заслуги не защитят тебя если ты так или иначе оступился перед поклонниками твоего творчества.
I think you're right, the public doesn't want to see the producer but the band! He is clearly a narcistic frustrated guy
I now understand why the band members rotate out so much!
He is an abuser.
This producer talks like an abuser! I am very disappointed!
Agree. The producer does sound like he's so full of himself
No need to change band members only need to change producer and the world is full of more skilled and professional people than that communist clown, who only lacks the clown wig.
Was just about to post this.
Very sad.
I'm so sorry to say this, but c'mon! Otyken represents Siberia indeed but this producer does not! Even if he says in this short documentarty, he is the one who does "everything" behind the scenes. I love these girls, I really love their work, their art and their culture, but this "poducer" guy just made me feel sad for these girls. So sad! Мне очень жаль это говорить, но, черт возьми! Отыкен действительно представляет Сибирь, но этот продюсер - нет! Даже если он говорит в этом короткометражном документальном фильме, он тот, кто делает «все» за кулисами. Я люблю этих девушек, я действительно люблю их работу, их искусство и их культуру, но этот «продюсер» просто заставил меня пожалеть этих девушек. Так грустно!
Having watched this, I feel sad for the performers.
I only liked it so this would be shown more. Love the band, but would also love seeing the producer torn apart by wolves
I see all the comments in English say the same thing, the thing I was about to write a comment on. What an ego on that man. Not only did he think it was a good idea to show what a butt-hole he is, but to be proud of it. Wow.
World politics is not finer at all, just chooses somewhat finer language...
Я японец, но фанат OTYKEN.
Пожалуйста, настройте UA-cam на отображение японских субтитров.
OTYKEN крутой и красивый, и мне это нравится.
Я тоже болею за тебя из Японии!😊
Хороший репортаж. Отлично показывает натуру продюссера.
5:34 the man sat at his table and said to his bread, 'you were nothing but a grain of wheat in a field until i found you, you are nothing if not for me'
Love heard the man and told the sky
the sky told the wind
a great storm came that flooded his wheat field, destroyed his house, took the mans bread from his table and swept it on to another mans table.
Как говорится: "Бей бабу молотом, будет баба золотом".
Perfect analogy
Удивительно насколько он мерзкий человек. Он потом поверил, конечно, какой он поездатый, а над ним ржут. А он думает он вот такой чё-то может. Недослав такой.
Yeesh! Sergey sounds like an awful dictator of a man! I wouldn't be surprised if this whole enterprise broke up very soon. If he is brazen enough to scold and belittle the women in front of the cameras, imagine what a terrible time it must be when the cameras are turned off?! I now feel sorry for these poor girls! That sucks, because I thought they seemed really awesome for years. I didn't know they were being run by a narcissistic megalomaniac.
This is not the culture in Russia. It's just that the person is like that - a tyrant and inadequate. Everything that was on camera is just the tip of the iceberg. The podcast with the former members of the group is on my channel.
Four of them quit last year. None of them are original members. At that rate, there won't be anyone left to play in the group in a couple of years.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm Anyway, an ensemble with such a "pop" factor usually survives hardly longer than perhaps 8 years, often much shorter.
Вот это эксплуатации коренных народов.
They are smart though, if they play it well, they can benefit from such undertakings with tourism and trade etc., though currently mostly within BRICS.
With trade comes power. The situation in BRICS and Eastern Asia is slightly changing towards more populism, in this case means everyone wants it to be real, like the 800 million Chinese folks, allegedly saved from subsistence, having a stable home and jobs. Stability and international competition work much better, if people have some hope and unnecessary humiliation can be avoided.
Это тот вариант, когда проект крутой, и лучше бы не знал, кто стоит за ним
Не пишу комментарии, но решил сделать исключение.
Еще в прошлом году, читая интервью этого продюссера, сложилось стойкое негативное чувство о нем из за его пафоса и высокомерия.
Второе: поражает насколько безвольные девчонки в группе, боятся сказать слово, чтобы не попасть в опалу. Это же как их надо запугивать, чтобы довести до такого... Выглядит как рабство.
Третье: Надеюсь, кто нибудь из достойных продюсеров, который будет ценить участников, пригласит их. И пусть они будут называться по другому, ничего страшного, ведь ключевым является не название, а ее участники, которые уже известны.
RT молодцы, что не вырезали эти нападки продюссера и зажатость участников группы из сюжета.
I enjoy the music and the performers, I do not like the manager taking so much credit, to many times. artists are taken advantage of.
Best to the members of the band you are great.
Allright i will be honest with ya.. I understand that Andrey is supposed to be the brain behind this whole thing, i also understand that the band wouldnt be a thing without him as he not so subtly conveys this to us in the video.. But when you are making a behind the scenes short, maybe.. just maybe.. Do not display your performers as replaceable dolls and especially do not humiliate them in front of a camera and before the fans in such a patronizing way.
Im sorry that i had to write something so negative here, because i do like your music, but this video will leave a bad taste in the mouths of many people.
@@martonmakhult3416 he doesn't know what to do because he is not a producer but an anthropology with a bad attitude
Don’t do this behind the cameras
Consider that RT is a very modern and very critical media. Practically, I think they took him for a ride.
Андрей Анатольевич, не сильно ругайте девушек. Переживаем за группу, после интервью бывших участниц.
Мы передадим ему Ваше пожелание! 😊
знали бы вы, что там делают с крокодильчиками...
@@sergunka79 с какими крокодильчиками?😁😁
Трёп глупых малолеток который...))
@@ГенаБентон-й6о так вся группа малолетки - зачем вы их смотрите?
I used to like tyem because their music seems so happy, but it's hard to listen now knowing there's an abusive boss on the other side.
when the band is hotter than the models.
YIKES. Instead of providing a fantastic insight into the band and how they developed as a group both social and culturally wise, the producer left me really worried, disgusted and uncomfortable! I hope the band find the strength to free themselves from this terrible man and become more independent and do what they like. I could not finish this video after seeing how he spoke to one of them at a photo shoot and I feel a bit ashamed as someone with Russian background, seeing how another Russian treated these indigenous people and their culture.
Oh hell no, I can't believe they'd even show the director acting like such an ass behind the scenes. (Keep in mind, if that’s what he’s willing to show on camera, imagine what he’s like off camera)
It explains a lot about why so many members have been leaving the group.
The way he treated Tsveta (starting at 5:26) was absolutely unacceptable. Honestly, if he ever spoke like that to someone I care about, I’d scold the hell out of him...
The members deserve so much better than this kind of disrespect.
wait did he just call Tsveta an 'insolent brat"? man, f this guy Tsveta is a goddess!!!
They need a proper manager not a bully OTYKEN❤
It's their producer tho
I agree! His attitude is completely fucked up! How are the band members supposed to feel comfortable to deliver the art in a healthy way..
@@arthurreede4478 their current producer. He is free to leave at any time too just as he said to the band. They could make him their former producer.
@@BrianPoitras-o9k That's right. I hope they form a new band and leave this producer. It's really disgusting to see how he treats them.
Директор - самодур это беда, знакомая ситуация.. ОТУКЕН, люблю вас!
Как говорится: "Бей бабу молотом, будет баба золотом".
I wish I would not have watched that video. Now I see them as victims rather than artists.
Those band members need to stand up to him, he provides nothing.
I love Otyken and all they represent. The Producer just ruined the whole experience. He is like a character out of "Taken" What an arrogant and awful person. This did not advance the brand. I like to be positive about people in general but when people reveal this about themselves in a public forum, it makes me wonder how worse they are in reality.
A good band manager does not humiliate his band member in public.
I wish I could rescue these talented performers . They deserve better.
I will no longer watch any uploads from this band as long as this guy is their “producer “.
Oh yeah , the man is from the boat in one of their videos…he should show more respect to the women making him rich…♥️🌀
Is this how he makes himself feel better because he's not the public face of the band? They get all of the love and praise from fans, so he belittles and verbally abuses them behind the scenes? Suddenly, it makes sense why so many of our favorites have quit.
I love Otyken, but now I feel bad and negative about it. Sad really, that they have to work like this. I've been verbally abused by bosses before, and it destroys pieces of you, little by little. You might not even notice it until many years later. Yikes...
I can’t believe he kicked beautiful Sveta out of the photo shoot. And the pompous ass takes credit for everything.
Yes, me too. And I couldn't believe my eyes when the always smiling and fun-making Tsveta 🥰, the sunshine of the group and one of its long-time members, was treated like THAT. How has she been able to bear that all these years? Having seen her and admiring her for long time in all their videos, I never would have expected such a background. I love her proud and unimpressed look at 6:11.
If this were a western production, we would be entirely sure this was scripted as with any aggressive reality show.
They make a buck with cynical schadenfreude.
Судя по комментариям видео вызвало не тот эффект, на который рассчитывали его создатели. Если только они не хотели вызвать волну негатива и отвращения.
I think that one can be strict or disciplined without having to hurt the dignity of the group members. I think that sometimes the pressure on the group leader makes him lose emotional control over himself. The members of the group make a great effort and have been very professional, they also deserve consideration as humans, they are not slaves to anyone, even if they are paid for their work; it must be appreciated that they leave everything to be able to continue in the group and contribute their talents in a generous way. This comment is for the leader and representative of the group. Thank you!
Pienso que se puede ser estricto o disciplinado sin tener que herir la dignidad de los integrantes del grupo. Pienso que a veces la presión sobre el líder del grupo hace que pierda el control emocional sobre sí mismo. Los integrantes del grupo hacen un gran esfuerzo y han sido muy profesionales, ellos también merecen consideración como humanos, no son esclavos de nadie, aunque les paguen por su trabajo; hay que valorar que dejan todo para poder seguir en el grupo y aportar sus talentos de manera generosa. Este comentario es para el líder y representante del grupo. ¡Gracias!
❤️🔥✌️
Group members are all very talented, but this producer is disrespectful and arrogant.
And he's doing all of it in front of a camera. Imagine his behavior in closed places...
I wasn't expecting something like that, and it made me very sad. Wow.
He treats the Siberians like they are disposable to Siberian music. I think he called them puppets at one stage...
he did call them puppets! absolutely horrible.
06:04 What??!!!! This producer talks like an abuser! I am very disappointed!
So hang on, he was just verbally abusive on camera and no one said anything?? Thats absolutely disgraceful. What a disgusting man.
I think it's just for show... Because if they didn't like it... They can leave...
@@painkeller20 Dynamics between abusers and victims are always more complex than that.
Это , чтоб булки не расслабляли😹😹😹
Как говорится: "Бей бабу молотом, будет баба золотом".
@@painkeller20 two of the girls just left a few months ago and you should hear and see the interview they gave to expose this problem and the toxic environment they had to perform in, this is not for show.
We don’t want to hear from the “producer”! We want to hear from the artists and learn more about their life! Get rid of this unfriendly egotistical producer when u have a chance!
I read about the rumours than Azyan was responsible for the musicians leaving the band but now I think it was because of the manager/producer.
@@RobinC63I think it was both
That’s awesome advice!😆 And who will write the lyrics and music for them then?
@MusicalZombie This "producer" isn't a musical genius, lyrics aren't that sophisticated. These girls would do much better under a Western management and producer. Not only would they be able to tour the world (no Russian sanctions), but actually earn money. I want to bet that this "producer" is hogging 90% of all income too. If he treats them like peasants, he will be for sure stealing their money. People don't watch/listen OTYKEN coz of him, but coz of the performers.
@@thomaslol9753such typical western arrogant bs
Просто "писаный красавец" сей продюсер и руководитель группы, потому как показал себя во всей красе лишь только на 120%, подтвердив информацию от девушек уже покинувших группу. Причем, девушки внезапно ушедшие из данного проекта многое явно недосказали в своих интервью, крайне аккуратно и тактично поднимая эту неприятную для них тему. И если он такое позволяет себе публично, то страшно представить как он унижает участниц группы вне камеры. Разве что беспрестанно лупит розгами и мордует девушек не только словесно??? И я теперь сильно сомневаюсь, что этот самый Андрей не психически больной человек. 🤨
Отамай так и говорила про продюссера " он не обязан им ничего, а участницы обязаны всё " и это о многом говорит , что происходит за кулисами
That guy is a jerk.
Helpfully Otyken gets away from this producer and finds some freedom to perform on their own terms in the US! I can't image the hell they must deal with being controlled by a psycho like that. We would love to have you in the US!
Вот сейчас было смешно, да 🤣🤣🤣
@@zewruszewrus3903вы просто не понимаете всю трагедию ситуации. Комментатор выше прав. Продюсер просто себя закопал в глазах западных мужчин. Так нельзя относится у женщине.
Почему продюссер позволяет себе такие высказывания? Говорить девушке "ты никто" ни при каких условиях нельзя. Цвета ангел как и все девушки коллектива. Надеюсь, что группа будет существовать и процветать, но уже без такого отношения грубого.
По идее раскол в коллективе неизбежно
5:30 Surprised they kept that in the footage. Seems like a lot of Hollywood producers
I don’t like the manager. He’s abusive
so it is true all the rumors! i know why Otamay Kunchari maya left the band what a disgusting man. i really feel sorry for the members.specially tsveta.
DID MAYA LEAVE TOO!?! 💔
I knew something was wrong when Otamay and Kunchari left Otyken. The way you spoke too them is crazy.
“When Found you, you were nothing”, this producer is disgusting
Благодаря ему они знамениты! Точка!
@@igpi649 They are just employees of this Russian colonist. He is only out to make money off their backs.
А вот и нет. Этот человек уже давно сделал сам себя, и без него они растворяется в неизвестности. Поинтерисуйтесь судьбой бывших участниц.
@@Cugel what a nonsense. Does anyone force them to be in a band?
@@Mishapashin13 много грязи здесь льется и за и против, но надо быть объективными - про какую неизвестность вы говорите? Не умаляя достоинств Медоноса, но Маргарита, Ксения продолжают заниматься творчеством в выбранном сегменте, Алина и Александра выбрали семейное счастье. Евгений и Михаил тоже при делах.
I've worked at a few agencies and know many Andrei's. They wrongly believe their creativity gives them license to treat others around them horribly. I hope that the beauty of the band's music continues to outshine the ugliness of the producer's character.
Девушки Хакасочки, красавицы, звездочки! Жаль что у них продюссер Медонос такой абьюзер попался...
Culture or not, if that producer really is like that to the group, then this won't last long. His behaviour is indeed toxic. Nobody deserves that.
Не знаю почему, но мне так нравится Азян, как только увидел, так сразу влюбился.💝
Красотки ❤ имена тоже наши тюркские Ачанай, Отамай , ну и так далее 😊
This group of kids are just outstanding.
Great music and lets hope they can keep up with this journey!
Hugs from Alaska
数ヶ月前日本のラジオ番組で紹介されていたOTYKENの曲を聴いてファンになりました😊
Disrespectful producer, Love for Siberian people. 🥰
I live in New Zealand and am also a big Otyken fan,.I think they are fabulous and I dream that one day I will see them live in concert !
Да уж, хорошо тут подсказали про видео, а точнее интервью с бывшими участницами и мои подозрения полностью подтвердились. Бедные девчонки, хотя надо сказать такая ерунда не только в шоу-бизнесе, в других областях ситуация не лучше бывает, поэтому нужно внимательно читать договор и должностную инструкцию и знать свои права. Увы понимание всего этого приходит только с возрастом и опытом. А вообще женский коллектив, это ещё тот серпентарий.
А что он так опешается с группой Отукен я сам Кыргыз мне не понравился этот директор или как там он
I thought this band was created organically, with people that decided to create music together. This feels artificial. I get the business part and well, he has taken some decisions that have helped them somehow...? because they have achieved a huge success worldwide. Clearly, he has a vision and works hard with all the members. I can't talk about how he deals with them because I'm not sure if this is a cultural thing, I'm ignorant in that aspect. But after watching this video, I ended up feeling like I've been supporting something although beautiful, it's a performance, just as he said, "a fantasy". In terms or marketing and business, it works. I still think they're amazing and they do an excellent work, they have a lot of talent and somehow are helping to promote their culture (even though there must be more groups and individuals who do the same and they're not that popular), but I wonder if the members are really okay and if the producer is taking it too far, just like US music industry - because he seems to share the same vision as American producers...
Обожаю Отукен! Азян, Цветочка, Хакайда, новые участницы... Скучаю по Кюнчари и Отамай.
а я по Майе
А я по Айко..
Самая загадочная. ❤❤❤
@MountainNomad Айко и Кюнчари похожи внешне. Мне тоже она нравится.
My beautiful indigenous people ...still.talked down to & treated as slaves.
The "Esau Spirit" of the producer is UTTERLY SICKENING!
😡
What would he do if you all left ALL AT ONCE!!!
(surely he own a the publishing & the name)
But you can START ANEW IN FREEDOM!
Обнимаю. У меня не у одной ощущение что иностранцы прочувствовали весь русский шовинизм по отношению к российским северным азиатам в этом интервью.
@@ИмяФамилия-ч5цхочешь сказать, он по-другому с русскими бы говорил? 🤡 продюсер женат на представительнице малых сибирских народов, какой тут шовинизм? 🤡
@@Elza.27 это всего лишь говорит о его сексуальных предпочтениях.
да девченки не легко там вам. но это того стоит. вас все любят и о вас все знают. а это дорогого стоит. удачи, счастья и здоровья вам девчата.
Да! Точно 😊
Только продюсер и ругает, больше не кто 😂😂😂
@@OTYKEN He's a POS... This video made him look awful and ruined a lot of the magic of Otyken... I hope you can remember you have value and fans even without his music and writing.
@@OTYKENобнаглевший как с девушкой разговаривает, нужно всем собраться и уйти от него,без девушек ты никто? А они нового продюсера найдут!
Жестковат Медонос. Я думаю надо немного доброты девочкам. Конечно без дисциплины никуда. Но всё же...
I love Otken's music, it's brilliant, they are beautiful and their sound is unique. любовь и свет ❤️🇦🇺
I second that statement !
I listen to their music from Adelaide, south Australia 🇦🇺
@@piendawg Happy new year ! If I had a favorite song , it would be ''oneness'' .
When the bass drops I go crazy.
@MarvinStoker mine is Altay
@piendawg Sydney
The girls should find a better producer than this guy. I'm absolutely disgusted with the poor girl's treatment in front of the cameras. I'm sure there are a lot of genuinely good producers in siberia who can do better than this guy.
But,but he writes the lyrics, designs the costumes, directs the choreography, -they need someone above him-A Director.
I don't like the "manager"
OTYKEN, лучшая группа, которую я когда-либо слушал❤
У меня есть 2-летняя сестра и она танцует под твои песни 😊
Amazing 🔥
I hope you find yourself a good producer.
Also I'll never be able to listen to it again. Wtf is that P Diddy / 2000's Hollywood vibe?
That's so sad. Hope these talented artists will find other ways of performing, away from that archaic thing who seems to think he's a god.
Man...
Margarita and Ksenia have been performing their own songs since leaving Otyken. Had heard rumours about this guy long time back and always wondered if they were true. Tsveta next?
Теперь стало ещё более понятно, почему две участницы ушли из группы. С таким хамским отношением никто не захочет иметь дело.
I Love OTYKEN but I'll have a really hard time to listen a song of this band again, because of the producer. I can't support that toxic behavior in any way.
Бас гитаристка супер красивая девочка..
Карабас Барабас собрал себе на старости лет цветник.. и рубит бабло. Нормальный проект!
Девчонки, вы набирайтесь опыта, пригодится для самостоятельной деятельности.)
Congratulations you guys are GREAT 😃👍
Моя любимая группа достигла таких успехов, которых я не ожидал, к стыду.
Лучшие😍
Pozdravuji z České republiky!
My fave is Genesis. It's so dancable, I love the growls, the throat singing, the rhythm. I love a lot of the stuff you guys do live, I've been obsessed since I found you all. I just love it.
That old dude should go away. He claim being the producer but in reality he is nothing. The band is everything.
OTYKEN , if you read this, find another producer! Leave everything (since he probably owns everything) and start over on your own terms!
Жаль что продюсер не из коренных народов, девушки жалко
Otyken is the greatest thing to come from Russia!!
Мужественные девушки под таким руководством, конечно.
Amamos a este grupo, por su defensa de la música tribal, por defender su origen y expresarlo donde vayan. Nuestros totales respeto por OTYKEN. Saludos desde Argentina y Urugua. Proyecto Mentor 2025.
Мы любим эту группу за их защиту племенной музыки, за защиту своего происхождения и выражение его, где бы они ни находились. Наше полное уважение к OTYKEN. Привет из Аргентины и Уругвая. Менторский проект 2025.
We love this group, for their defense of tribal music, for defending their origin and expressing it wherever they go. Our total respect for OTYKEN. Greetings from Argentina and Uruguay. Mentor Project 2025.
Ach is so cute. Watching him blush as he's interviewed. And they're going to barbecue and eat that producer one day. Mark my words.
I love Ach. Whenever his throat singing solos start I turn the volume up to the max
When music from around the world such as bill x , exhibit, and others are intrested in working with your band you will have NO PROBLEM FINDING A NEW PRODUCER. good luck and rock on,
Producer allows band to play in Dubai, Why because it a country where it acceptable to treat women like shit. That is why ocyken don't perform in civilized nations like the United States of America 🇺🇸.
These girls should change to a Western management and producer. So they are not affected by Russian sanctions and can actually tour the world and start earning money. Do you want to bet that the "producer" is also hogging 90% of the income? Someone like him, treating his artists like peasants, would do that. That's basically stealing, who's the real artist here??
This "producer" isn't special, his lyrics aren't sophisticated and it's not hard to design indigenous clothing. This group has fans because of the performers, not because of that narcissistic Russian man.
🤕🤢
Such typical arrogant b s
Он так и сказал что открывает интернет и плагиатит культуру северных народов.
и в чем проблема? У вас патент на культуру что ли ? Ну снимай тогда джинсы и кроссовки, надевай шкуры - хорош носить одежду чужой культуры.
@@ИмяФамилия-ч5ц и в чем проблема? У вас патент на культуру что ли ? Ну снимай тогда джинсы и кроссовки, надевай шкуры, хорош носить одежду чужой культуры.
here it turned out to be Andrej Anatoljevič, he is probably the same as Kristina and Liana discussed. He can be strict, but he doesn't have to humiliate his band members and he willingly included them in this documentary. he could talk to them calmly and politely. I also believe the way he treated Alina, he would deserve a slap for that. Tsevilma, you have great light and goodness in you, I salute you and send you much love and light. You are an angel.
We don't know if she was being equally bad. But being Russia....
I'm actually sorry I watched this. I always thought they were a group of happy people doing what they loved not people ruled by a tyrant. Puts me in mind of the Jacksons. Should have known though. I'll just feel sorry watching them now. Maybe not even watch them at all anymore.
Kinda thought it was natives bringing their culture and music known. Apparently its just a niche version of nsync.
Ugh, what are the odds Azyan and producer are banging?
@@MCL198027он не ругается, а милуются с Азян 😊
@@MCL198027 Ew. But also, it could be diminished to a bastardized version of traditional music, which is super popular nowadays. Mix mongol throat singing with metal, siberian with electro or rap, turkish and arabic with hip hop, classical guitar with metal, hip hop with rap, japanese shamisen to metal or rock, chinese and tradtional russian to rap, gypsy to russian polka, flamenco into a 1000 styles of latin music, african beats to latin music, and the list never ends, they've been doing this for hundreds of years.
@@ЛюсьенОлда uh huh sure...🤣
Hey Hey we’re the Monkees!
MEXICO loves OTYKEN!! 🖤👍🏻✨
I really enjoy hearing and watching this band but had no idea that the members had little autonomy. I hope the creator/producer treats them better than what is shown in this video.
Kendinize güvenin ve güçlü kalın dostlar✊️ Kimsenin malzemesi değilsiniz. 👍 Özünüzü takip edin. Daha iyi işler başaracaksınız.❤
Every single member of otyken is truly gorgeous❤.
It is great listening to each of you talking about yourself❤
Even the pudgy guy?
Я бы посоветовал продюссеру ценить людей. Доброе слово делает больше, чем сумбурный ор. Запомни, пчеловод
Агрессивное поведение результат детских психотравм, которые есть у каждого, но не каждый над этим работает, считая свою токсичную дурь "изюминкой характера", теша свою самовлюбленность-нарциссизм...
...бородатые не повзрослевшие дети...
Ведь у ребёнка отсутствует внутренняя ответственность за последствия взаимо-действий...
В основном, среди разных руководителей, большинство нарциссы-психопаты, неэкологично для окружения компенсируют свои психотравмы...
Взрослеем родные!
Бережно и нежно к друг другу...
💖
группа прекрасна. продюсеру не надо стараться придумывать всякие легенды для популярности. Группа умеет песней завоевывать её
Ну так собери сам группу, проспонсируй, попиши им музыку и тексты, потом советуй. Посоветовал бы он, советчик нашелся.
@@Elza.27 Это как бы не дает право разговаривать в таком тоне с девушками. Адекватным поведением такое не назовешь. Неудивительно, что уходят. Уйдут и эти, если выводов не будет. Как в сказке будет "осталась старуха у разбитого корыта"
Это не значит, что он не ценит. Просто не все знают, что такое - руководить коллективом