History and Disassembly of the Vickers-Berthier MkIII LMG
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The Vickers-Berthier was initially designed by Andre Berthier in France prior to World War One. It went through a number of substantial design changes before the war, and was actually ordered in quantity by the United States right at the end of WWI - but the order was cancelled with the armistice. In the 1920s, Berthier sold the design to the Vickers company in England, which wanted a light machine gun to market alongside its Vickers heavy machine gun.
When the British military decided to replace its Lewis and Hotchkiss light machine guns, the Vickers-Berthier was one of the leading contenders, although in the endurance trials it was edged out by the Czech ZB-33, which would ultimately be adopted as the Bren. However, the Indian Army opted to take the Vickers-Berthier, and it was put into production at the Ishapore Rifle Factory and saw substantial use in World War Two.
Mechanically, the Vickers-Berthier is a tilting bolt design with a long stroke gas piston. It has a thorough set of covers over the magazine well and ejection port, and a relatively slow rate of fire. The barrel is quick-changeable, and it feeds from top-mounted 30-round magazines, with an aperture type rear sight being offset to the left side of the gun to clear the magazine.
Thanks to Marstar for letting me examine and shoot their Vickers-Berthier!
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British Indian Army used these in large quantities, both western desert and against the Japanese...very well liked, and served successfully. I knew a couple of guys who used these in anger.
Dont forget them using the Thompson
When I worked for Vickers, the joke was that the marketing department had won the Nobel Peace Prize as hey couldn't sell anything, to anyone
One of my instructors in engineering worked for Vickers in Southampton and he was trained by one of the supervisors for Barnes Wallis of the bouncing bomb fame...
That disassembly is brilliant. You gotta appreciate the engineering that went into making it so simple to field strip.
"GRI" means "Georgius Rex Imperator" - George King Emperor. King of the British Dominions and Emperor of India. It does not specifically mean made in India, but was widely used throughout the Empire.
Very good info. i've learnt something. in 1940 my father (C.P.O. freddy hall RNAFA)was a vickers k gunner on the "shagbat' (walrus sea plane ) sea rescue maritime patrols out of the English channel. i actually have a photo taken in flight of this gun with the circular magazine on the actual plane in 1940 on patrol. this was really cool. now i know what i am actually looking at. cheers Ian
Forgotten weapons and coffee is a great start to the day. And officially approved Canadian content too.
Seconded.
every morning.... Coffee, Forgotten Weapons (and/or In Range, though I honestly skip a lot of the match videos), Coffee, MAC if they have a new video up, More coffee.... then grab the sports page and head to the throne room for morning meditations......
You mean that Forgotten weapons and coffee are a perfect way to end the day (living in CET)
Pterodactyl Hunter i agree. This is by far the best arms review series around....good content and nice delivery...it helps that Ian seems to be a really nice and knowledgable chap!
Cheers to that my friend!
It sounds like you start your day off just like I do...
Hickock45 or Iraqveteran8888 next? Hahaha
Out of all the practical and goofy WWI guns Ian has featured this is my favorite. Love the magazine lock/cover mechanism, the sights, and the milling marks on the side.
Congratulations on your deal with Larry Vickers Ian. You deserve it for your dedication to the subject matter and the betterment of your channel. I'm sure it wasn't because of me but I asked if you could show the sight pictures on camera and have noticed you include them in every video now. Great continued work from you and Karl!
Thanks!
That whole berthier lmg saga sounds mad interesting
Interesting British marks info:
even without the date stamp you can tell that this weapon is one that had been stamped/marked prior to 6th February 1952. The crown mark (officially known as the Royal cypher) changes with regards to the gender of the monarch. The one on this weapon is the king’s cypher whereas the queen’s cypher is more curvaceous.
Thanks Ian! Would like to see a video on the Vickers GO/Vickers K gun, a development of this Vickers-Berthier, as this was a very important & well used aircraft defensive gun for the RAF & also some SAS jeep armament in WW2.
If you do the VGO/'K' you have to cover the ground LMG version used by the Royal Marines with the trigger under the drum and a stub buttstock on the back.
Amen to that. I understand that the Vickers GO/ Vickers K gun was first developed as a gun for aircraft with an enhanced rate of fire (up to 1200 r.p.m.) reflecting the speed of aerial combat (even in the 1930s ) and the need to put a lot of projectiles in the direction of the other guy in a very short window of opportunity. The small snag was that there wasn't much room for a 300 round drum in an aircraft let alone an aircraft wing. The R A F went with the Browning in the end (even though it was less reliable - allegedly). Some of the RAF's surplus (ex - Gladiators ?) were mounted singly and in pairs on their vehicles by the LRDG - the embryo SAS. If loaded with a mix of ball and tracer they must have made quite an impressive show.
Curiously, I remember having a "dispute" with a museum curator who had displayed a Lewis gun as a Vickers K gun on the basis that it had no inductive cooling jacket (Oh dear !). He wouldn't have it even when I asked him what he thought the clock spring housing and the drum ratchet were for !
Sorry if this is full of errors, I'm struggling with a new tablet and a hostile predictive text. Great video as always.
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The Vickers GO/K was used on Royal Navy small naval combatants (Motor Torpedo and Motor Gun Boats, for example) of the time, and possibly destroyers as well, as the RN was dreadfully short of any suitable antiaircraft weapon (See the Unrotated Projectile as an example of an emergency AA weapon that was employed as a result of this shortfall).
I always loved the way this thing looks.
Got back from a shitty day at work, and a FW video is just the thing to relax with
Never knew the British army in India used, let alone manufactured these 👍
Really cool. I love the engineering behind these guns. You can really see a lot of ideas that Eugene Stoner utilized during his development of the AR platform.
4:14 "It had Finns on the barrel for cooling"... LOL... GREAT VID, as always, tthank you Mr. McCollum, keep up the nice work!
It literally had metal fins (sometimes, and more often will look ribbed) on the barrel; it dissipates heat, allowing for longer sustained fire. Look up the MG 37 for an extreme example.
Thank you Ian for another great video. FYI the Vickers K / GO was used as a free mounted gun on wide variety of multi-seat aircraft pretty much throughout the second world war. Often they were fitted as an additional weapon mounted in an escape hatch or window when the operational circumstances revealed that the standard weaponry and turret armament was insufficient or to cover a blind spot. No doubt the reason being that it was easier to mount one of these magazine guns rather than a belt fed Browning as you wouldn't need to find somewhere to fit a belt feed ammo tank. Also it would've been quite easy to fit several mounts and move a single gun from one position to another rather than mount several guns more permanently. Short Sunderland flying boats in particular had these guns poking out of various places so much so that the Germans referred to them as flying porcupines. These Sunderland aircraft remained in service long after the war and well into the 1950's. I have also seen pictures of these guns mounted on anti-aircraft mounts for airfield defence presumably using the same or similar mounts as a Lewis, Bren, or Vickers MMG.
Peter Hopkins I believe the Sunderlands that stayed on late were mkVs fitted with Hispanos. I think only the Mk1 had VGOs, so those probably weren't around in the 50s
I think you meant Sunderland Dusby.
Sorry, you are right, I'm just an absent minded idiot. I'll edit it
I have that trouble too.
Dubsy 102 I was just trying to make the point that the Vickers gun was used on a variety of aircraft well into the war and not just on a few pre war biplanes. Many later production Sunderlands and other aircraft were fitted with Browning .303 or .5 calibre in electric or hydraulic gun turrets as they became available and the need to improve defences occurred. As far as I am aware the 20mm Hispano was only fitted on a few Sunderlands as fixed forward firing mounts operated by the pilot and never in a turret or free mounting. You are correct about the MkV remaining in use post war and I implying that the aircraft remained in service rather than a specific weapon fit remained in service.
So it came out originally in 1908? Amazing! So its feasible that we could have seen an LMG equipped army in 1914, if only for the conservatism in the GS...wow!
Elegant LMG. Nice to see, you finally got hands on this one, Ian.
Amazing! All these years and I'd never heard of this one.
I think this is the best early portable machine gun I've ever seen. If they made it belt fed and made the handle angled like on the Bren (to shoot from under armpit) it would rival many "modern" guns. The shooting footage looks really impressive. It does not move. Also, the SAS jeep mounted version uses drums, so there was definitely some flexibility to the feeding system. Looks way better than chatellerault.
Great to see you here in canada, Hope she treated you well.
There is the line in the movie a bridge too far where Sean Connery explains that an advanced recon battalion of jeeps with twin vickers machine guns would be sent in first to capture and hold Arnhem Bridge.
Saw a deactivated MKIII at an army surplus store here in Nova Scotia, Canada. Poor thing was all rusted up, and had been hit with a welder at some point. Looked like the magazine had been permanently attached to the gun
Still waiting for that M41A Pulse rifle review - jokes aside - Love all your videos, really interesting stuff!
One time I had a Pakistani arguing with me on UA-cam telling me that a PKM with Indian army markings was a Vickers birthier LOL
Brasstard 7.62 cool story bro
Brasstard 7.62 2 diffrent guns bro
15:22 Are you going to introduce us to your guest?
look at those chatter marks. must have been squeaking like a dive bomber in that arsenal factory.
Should call for the CHATTERlerault
Very interesting gun. A bit to ahead ofit's time to see service in WW1 but a brilliant gun indeed. I put berthier among the top fireweapons designers of all time.
Bolchevik duck fireweapons
firearms or whatever i ain't english
Breaking News: Ian is now working alongside Larry Vickers from Vickers Tactical
General_Atheis Well I don't know exactly what that means for Ian's creativity but it should help him breach Russia
Is that an SKS with 75 round drum? Lol
glad to see i'm not the only one distracted by it
e-Legal Canadian Marstar has a prohibited licence so the company can own fully automatics and standard capacity magazines.
Ayuka Boldyrev SKS D Accepts AK Magazines 😎👍🏼
Chris Chiampo is right, it looks like a D model SKS. I own one myself, it's a fun gun.
Wonder if you still need to feed it with stripper clips. Thought about getting a 30 rounder or more for mine until I found that without modification it would not be easily detachable.
Nice Scorpion in the background too...
From what i can see both the bren and its parent design ZB vc 26 took many of the receiver designes from a danish variant, the Madsen LMG which was a light machine gun that Julius A. Rasmussen and Theodor Schoubue designed and proposed for adoption by Colonel Vilhelm Herman Oluf Madsen, the Danish Minister of War, and that the Danish Army adopted in 1902. It was the world's first true light machine gun produced in quantity. Consequently, Madsen was able to sell it in 12 different calibres to over 34 different countries worldwide, where it saw extensive combat for over 100 years
This LMG is in a game called Medal of Honor Allied Assault, one of it's expansion packs, but the wielder has a North American accent, the level it appears in does take place during the invasion of Italy. Maybe a Canadian officer for the Indian forces?
Breakthrough before the tank battle yes hes was an american
As an odd side note, by pressurizing the water system in the particular model you mentioned, that would raise the boiling point of said water, possibly increasing the cooling capabilities.
Actually, raising the boiling point reduces the cooling capacity. The way water cooling works in guns is that the barrel and water heat up to the boiling point, and then addition generated heat boils off water rather than raising the temperature. If the boiling point goes up, it means that the gun will be running at a higher temperature.
Ah.. good point. More coffee will be consumed next time before I try and sound smart, but thanks for setting me straight. As always, incredible work and thank you for spreading the word of truth and enlightenment about these magnificent pieces!
The numbers on the front of the buttstock are different from those in front of the rear sight, and both of these are different to those on the underside of the receiver? also several parts seem to be clearly marked as "MK2" which could explain why some don't fit correctly as Ian mentioned towards the end?
Gallivanting around. Great visual!
Great video as usual, that seems like a pretty advanced gun for the time. On another note is anyone else getting strange, non gun related videos in their "up next" list?
The Vickers-Berthier was also sold by Vickers-Armstrongs to Portugal & Spain.
I once saw a photograph of someone (in a twenties business suit) aiming something like a scaled-up one of these, mounted on a naval-type pedestal mount. I know there was a pan-fed BSA "LMG" chambered in the Vickers 0.5" (type C: type D was horrendously powerful and used only by the Turkish Navy), was there ever a comparable 0.5" Vickers Berthier? Whatever it was, it had a top-mounted magazine and basically did look like one of these guns, only bigger. Given the man in civilian clothes shooting it, it might have been intended for anti-pirate use on ocean liners or something.
The British Army Infantry Battalions in British Indian Army formations also used this gun, not just Indian troops. These were also used in France in 1940 by the animal transport companies of the Royal Indian Army Service Corps.
Vickers-Berthier / Madsen / Chauchat / BREN / ZB 26 / Châtellerault 1924 / BAR m1918a2 / WZ 28 / DP 27 / Lahti 26 ..... You have presented nearly all inter-war LMG. It lacks the Hotchkiss 1922. Maybe in another video ?
jo dc just a nitpick, but I'm pretty sure that Madsen was pre WWI
The French should have adopted this in the 1930s. They could have issued the FM 24/29 to the Conscript Line and Support units(as they were basically designed for the low maintenance soldiers with their fixed barrels)and issued the Regulars like the Legion with the Vickers-Berthier. They could call them just Berthier, to preserve French pride!
I thought GRI stood for "GEORGE REX IMPERATOR" and RFI stood for "Rifle Factory Ishapore?" Was India the only member of the Empire to mark their firearms with GRI?
From what I understand, yes. India was the only ones to use G.R.I. The British arsenals and arms manufacturers making guns for the Royal Army, and the armies of the Empire and Commonwealth in the United Kingdom and Canada, and those made for the British by American arms manufacturers, marked theirs G.R. for GEORGIVS REX (George, the King), compared to G.R.I. for GEORGIVS REX IMPERATOR (George, King and Emperor). This is likely due to the the fact that all reigning Kings or Queens of England from Queen Victoria until George VI were titled "Emperor of India" in India, instead of "King" or "Queen" like elsewhere in the Empire and Commonwealth (Queen Elizabeth II, for instance, is styled Her Majesty The Queen of Canada in Canada, and HM the Queen of Australia in Australia. None of her other realms list her, or her predecessors as "Emperor" or "Empress".)
For example, lets use the more common bolt action weapon of the British forces of that era - the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield. An SMLE manufactured by RSAF Enfield in 1916 would have a crown stamp (to show government/crown property), with this underneath it:
G.R.
ENFIELD
SHT. L.E.
III
1916
That stamp would extend to Canadian guns, or guns manufactured for the Crown by British, Canadian, and American manufacturing concerns, only with "ENFIELD" being replaced by whatever company made the firearm. For instance, a Birmingham Small Arms SMLE of the same year as that Enfield would have the Crown mark, followed by:
G.R.
B.S.A. Co.
SHT. L.E.
III
1916
Rifle Factory Ishapore in India, and the Royal Australian Small Arms Factory at Lithgow, New South Wales would be the ones that just HAD to do it differently. Ishapore's were generally marked with the Crown mark followed by:
G.R.I.
ISHAPORE
SHT. L.E.
III
1916
Australia marked theirs with "M.A. LITHGOW" (the M.A. being the more traditional European Continental/French "Manufacture d'Arms"), followed by the type of gun. They also generally did not mark their weapons with the Crown mark. For example, I own a Lithgow SMLE from World War II (manufactured in 1943). Mine is marked:
M.A.
LITHGOW
SMLE No. 1
III*
1943
Outside of the Indians, and the Aussies, everyone else generally just did G.R.
@@EuropeYear1917 India and Australia also were the only colonies to not adopt no.4 Lee Enfield and stuck to no1 mk3
I look forward to the shooting vid.
SKS with a 70 round drum mag. Yes please.
It's a D model that takes AK mags by the look of it, fun gun for sure assuming you don't have any silly magazine restrictions
e-Legal Canadian do what every Canadian does remove the pin or block.
Imagine if the French had this instead of the Chauchat wonder how it would have impacted.
The reason for the Chauchat was that it was cheap and quick to produce. In a war of attrition, the crappy gun you have 100,000 of beats the awesome gun the enemy has 10,000 of.
@@LUR1FAX The Chauchat was not cheap and quick to produce. It was a long recoil gun, which means complex, heavy and expensive, in addition having to a crappy firing rate of about 240 rpm. I can't imagine the reasons for its adoption other than political wrangling. There were better alternatives available such as the Lewis and this one here.
@@lucianene7741 You seem to not know much about WWI light machine guns. There are many great resources right here on youtube to educate yourself so that you don't post such nonsense. Forgotten weapons even has videos directly addressing why the Chauchat was adopted (namely, it was cheap and easy to produce, lighter than other options for the day, and good enough for its role as an automatic rifle)
Still a heck of a monster
Imagine creating one of the most advanced light machine guns in 1905 and fail to get it adopted in any reasonable capability for decades, at which nobody wants it because other things have superseded it
Reminds me of the North Korean Type 73 mainly by the way the magazine is but a few other parts of the machine gun.
Doesn't the buttstock say Mk II? Might that be why they don't line up?
Not sure I'm seeing where it says that. Timestamp?
You can see it at the left side of the frame at 15:34 onwards
Ah, nice eye there. That's defiantly a "mk II"
Tell Marstar to restock their online store when you are next there.
VGO, Lewis style mag, not Bren, but the magazine didnt rotate like the lewis gun.
Will we be able to see the vickers K/Vickers GO machineguns which IIRC were based on the bickers-berthier? Specifically the No.2 Mk1 varient?
Great video as ever.
one issue, you talk about a wooden handguard around 04:20 or so but the camera is showing beauty shots of the sight system ...
I was wandering about that gap. Thought it was weird.
Man it looks like they needed to put a new grind on the endmill that cut the pocket in the side of the receiver.... Chewy
Random thought, could the gap be some sort of expansion joint?
Great video! I have a semi-related (and possibly stupid) question that I haven't thought of until now: Are offset sights actually parallel to the bore of the rifle? If so, doesn't that mean that you always actually shoot off to the right by the amount of distance the sights are offset from the bore? If this is the case, is this shift of the point of impact generally accepted as being.. well, necessary because of the top-mounted magazine? I can't imagine that they're NOT parallel because that would just create even more problems..
Yes, the line of the sights is parallel to the bore.
Thank you kindly! :)
I was a tank crewman in the 70's and 80's and gunsights are often mounted to the side of the cannon. As long as the cannon is properly boresighted, no problem
I see, thank you! :)
Pretty sure they aren't expecting better than a 2" hit at 400yards in combat on automatic fire.
EW, marstar. thanks for making the sacrifice, for the guns!
No expenses were spared milling that groove on the side of the receiver...
Great video Ian. Did the Vickers-Berthier magazine actually hold 30 rounds, unlike the BREN mag which famously could only get 27 max?
Few years ago I saw them mounted on jeeps serving with paramilitary forces
I'd want 3 of these mounted on my war elephant.
that sks with a drum in background looks badass ian
Hmm, why not do a comparison shoot both with and without the muzzle brake to settle the question of if it actually does anything?
Saw a picture of a .22 training SMLE converted to a training gun for troops receiving this gun. It was a SMLE with a pistol grip and sights of the Vickers Berthier . I think it was in a History of the 17/21 lancers. It was made in-house by the regiment
Reguarding the round drum for the Vickers k I think you meant to say Lewis type drums? Or perhaps a Thompson because of the spring?
They actually did build 100 round drum mags for the bren gun
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awesome, loving all the stuff from canada lately Ian! It sucks that Marstar is a kin to cancer in the firearms world up here. Dealing with them is a nightmare and anyone watching this video should know NOT do do business with them. Theyve messed up 2 of 2 orders of mine, heavily corroded unselaed ammo, etc. Bad, bad group.
Wait wait wait wait....... the M14 with AK mag.....
Yep Chinese made M14 (M305A) chambered in 7.62x39 and accepts AK Mags
Love your channel !.....Just have a few questions.... Are you simply an encyclopedia of firearm knowledge, or do you extensively research before posting......When you say a firearm was 'favored or liked by troops', what is your basis or reference to this claim.....and finally, when reviewing firearm sights, how do you determine if they are incremented in meters or yards? Thank you for your great content....I really look forward to every new post knowing I will learn something new, of how many different ways a firearm will mechanically function.
No look at the safety, sear and disconnector? Normally a staple with Ian
Does nobody else notice the scoped M-1A with a '74 mag in it?
So who was first, in specific with regards to the bolt/operating rod. The French, Czechs or British?
any chance of you doing an article concerning the Vickers K machine gun at all??
3:56 they still use it...
Till today
If you are going to have a bipod that long, why not put the magazine well on the bottom?
Vickers-Berthier "I'm-not-Bren" MkIII
Great to see you in Canada. I hope you visit MAG, you follow them on instagram!
How in Canada are you able to shoot this type of mg? This is def prohibited. Any info would be great.
At 15:30 , what are all those circular inscriptions on the gun ?
Milling marks. Normally those would be buffed out to provide a smoother finish. Not sure why this thing opted to skip that.
Really neat tech for ww1
See ... we have cool guns in Canada as well :)
Yeggster Shane you've had a better selection versus the US since the Norinco ban. Just sad they're all restricted to the utility of a Remington 700.
is the removable locking shoulder reversible?
What was the submachinegun used by the French at Dien Ben Phu?
It was the MAT-49.
It look like this : warisboring.com/wp-content/uploads/mat-49_01.jpg
and can be folded for transport : 1.bp.blogspot.com/-xyf0kgBENKs/UZYlGagtxBI/AAAAAAAACVo/BiV8EYbLz_E/s1600/mat49_03.jpg
Soldier with a MAT 49 folded : i.pinimg.com/736x/a9/f0/10/a9f010997ec56fe4d59ba2216ed8bea4--mat--french-army.jpg
Your stuff is so cool I've been growing up with guns my whole life first gun I shot was a 22 at about 5 Shot 223 at 6. Never have a gun miss fire on you I wouldn't know who to watch for gun history
Ps. Praise gun Jesus
roll on tomorrow bang bang.
Oh man, Marstar. We appreciate you bringing us these videos, but does they ever have a bad reputation in Canada after their fake and dangerous M1 fiasco.
@Preston Henson
Marstar sold some absolutely DANGEROUS rebuilt M1 rifles that had been thrown together by a hack gunsmith. When Canadian customers found out they'd been sold absolute dogs, they wanted to return them and get their money back.
The owner of Marstar then not only doubled down, but started insulting customers who wanted refunds.
He eventually relented, but not before trying to resell the rifles that had been returned to Marstar by customers for being unsafe.
Marstar has been a bottom feeder retailer for years who has gotten by on cheap Chinese imports, and fleecing Canadians.
Quite a few people had been burned by Marstar, or gotten fed up by their awful customer service policies before the M1 scandal/scam. A lot of shooters chose to fully sever relations after that.
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the cameraman knows his job. Who is he?
Hi Ian. In general what are the pros and cons in weapons with magazines located above the weapon, for instance does it affect shooting?
There's a comment a few above this one with some good replies. Basically it would feed more reliably with weak magazine springs and you could get the gun lower to the ground and/or have a higher capacity magazine than a bottom feed. faster mag changes when prone as well.
Top mag fed LMG's were conceived as a two/three man team weapons, the No.2 was the loader and changed magazines while No.1 kept the gun on target. They both carried 6 magazines and the spare barrel, tools and spare parts were carried by an NCO usually referred to as No.3 who also directed fire.
In the RN No 2 kept count of the mags and would shout "Tenth Magazine". When that was emptied, he'd change the barrel. Gave the barrels a chance to cool. This on the LMG (a metric Bren)
Please, can you review in HD the Madsen LMG and the Hotchkiss M1909 Benét-Mercié ?
Ian you must run some long days. I get done at 6am and you usually have a video up before that.
Possibly scheduled uploads.
Talked to him when he was here he had just finished his visit to Marstar and the amount of videos he had done was insane.
Mr2greys I know in an older Q and A video he talked about his general day at an auction house and it was definitely a lot.
The gun on the right behind him with the drum magazine, anyone know what it’s called?
Love
Tom
Do you know, I’m really sorry, I’ve just watched it back and it’s clearly either a Russian or Finnish sub machin gun
So why on earth I asked I have no idea.
Once again very sorry
Love
Tom
@@tomwotton9 Looks like it might be an SKS converted to take AK magazines? I don’t know how well that would work. But that definitely looks like an RPK drum.
SKS drum?
why were people designing machineguns with magazines on the top, what was the advantage? (my guess is that it was easier to go prone with magazine on top)
Mag fed LMGs suck, because the only way to feed them with high capacity mags is though the top due to their hight, this is why the RPK had to have such a tall bipod for it's 45 round mags.
Belt feeding really changed this as you could have high capacity and still have a low bipod.
It was probably a combination of shooting while prone and the idea of walking fire. A magazine on top of the gun is easier to reload when you're holding the gun at your waist.
"It's easier to change whilst prone, too" Very true, trying to wrestle a 40 rd
underneath a weapon while your prone can be....tedious...8)
Just Curious Ian why hasn't anyone tried using Automotive Antifreeze/Coolant Mix in a Water Cooled Machine Gun would it not increase Cooling Efficiency and Protect the Metal Parts from Rust & Corrosion 👨🏼🔧👩🏻🔧👍🏼
Chris Chiampo I'm guessing antifreeze was developed after water jackets were largely abandoned
Many modern shooters do use an antifreeze mixture to prevent corrosion.
Forgotten Weapons thank you for the response Ian 😎😀👍🏼
Antifreeze decreases cooling efficiency, water alone is more efficient at cooling. Antifreeze only lowers its freezing point and prevents corrosion.
Seth Rich it also increases the Boiling Point with a 50/50 Mix in Automotive n Truck applications 👨🏼🔧👩🏻🔧
Bro have an copy of the Bren gun
Bit overengineered. Especially the spring loaded loading tab boggles my mind.
15:30 Wow. That is some bad mill work on the side of that receiver. Learn to set your speed and feed, unknown long-dead British Raj factory machinist!
I suppose it would have been used by the Indian Army in Kenya, Italian Somalia, British Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan and Iraq
Battlelfield 1 dlc gun I know this ones coming