From Bolt Action Lee to LMG: The Charlton Automatic Rifle

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    The Charlton automatic rifle is one of very, very few examples of a conversion from bolt action to self-loading rifle actually working reasonably well. Typically this sort of project founders in expense and unreliability. Charlton, however, was able to take his vision for providing the New Zealand Home Guard with a new weapon made form obsolete surplus and bring it fully to fruition, with 1500 guns made. They were never fired in anger, but allowed New Zealand to put all of its Bren guns into the field while retaining Charlton as emergency weapons in case of Japanese invasion. Sadly, virtually all were destroyed in a warehouse fire after the war, leaving them extremely rare today.
    Many thanks to the Royal Armouries for allowing me to film and disassemble this very scarce automatic rifle! The NFC collection there - perhaps the best military small arms collection in Western Europe - is available by appointment to researchers:
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  • @codywaller2840
    @codywaller2840 5 років тому +1888

    Now THAT is what should have been mounted into the Bob Semple Tank!

    • @TheCoffeehound
      @TheCoffeehound 5 років тому +142

      What have you done?? You've doomed us all, you fool!!

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 5 років тому +74

      Hes done it. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm damn glad he did.

    • @M50A1
      @M50A1 5 років тому +6

      still would of been a god awful tank with no use

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 5 років тому +101

      @@M50A1 The Bob semple tank was the best tractor in all of ww2

    • @M50A1
      @M50A1 5 років тому +9

      @@grahamlopez6202 That meme died last month. Let it rest

  • @shoopusdawhoopus
    @shoopusdawhoopus 5 років тому +2340

    visually it looks like someone stretched a jpeg of a thompson horizontally

    • @egeo.9645
      @egeo.9645 5 років тому +277

      *d o I l o o k l i k e I k n o w w h a t a j p e g i s?*

    • @heathea9678
      @heathea9678 5 років тому +99

      Someone measured once cut twice and had to use the ole' gun stretcher. Works everytime

    • @Pasta-la-vista
      @Pasta-la-vista 5 років тому +61

      @@heathea9678 FETCH ME THE GUN STRETCHER- Robert Baratheon

    • @Spitfire200
      @Spitfire200 5 років тому +11

      If that foregrip with finger-grooves was missing, you wouldn't be making such a vague connection to a completely unrelated weapons platform.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 5 років тому +10

      EVERYONE thinks that EVERY gun with a vertical fore grip looks like a "Thompson". Ironically, Many (most?) military Thompson SMGs (therefore most, overall?) lack this feature.

  • @RavingRaptor
    @RavingRaptor 5 років тому +1676

    Howell Automatic Rifle 2 : Light machinegun Boogaloo

    • @michagebicki5714
      @michagebicki5714 5 років тому +44

      This needs to be put on a t-shirt, or at least on a poster

    • @issackliener3065
      @issackliener3065 5 років тому +96

      *Light machinegun Didgeridoo

    • @williammiao8862
      @williammiao8862 5 років тому +37

      The perfect rifle to go with the glorious BOB SEMPLE

    • @mazkact
      @mazkact 5 років тому +4

      Nailed it.

    • @iwishyouhappinnes1125
      @iwishyouhappinnes1125 5 років тому +5

      You forgot electric between machine gun and boogaloo

  • @marley6940
    @marley6940 5 років тому +515

    I'm literally from NZ and even looking at the flag in the thumbnail I thought that this gun was Australian because I didn't know we had made any interesting firearms

    • @bigmunter
      @bigmunter 3 роки тому +29

      Kiwi too mate just stumbled on this vid from Ian , didn't realize we made one too

    • @bronsonperich9430
      @bronsonperich9430 3 роки тому +18

      Number 8 wire kiwi ingenuity lol

    • @professionalbeanie8342
      @professionalbeanie8342 3 роки тому +2

      Hello possum brother do you also dress yours up to raise money for schools ?

    • @mauricestevenson5740
      @mauricestevenson5740 3 роки тому +7

      Australian? AUSTRALIAN? Kiwi as, bro. Check your copy of Skennerton's "Lee Enfield Story" - it is one of the interesting conversions applied to Lee's design. The fire that destroyed most of the Charlton conversions was in a building at the showgrounds in Palmerston North.

    • @warwolf715
      @warwolf715 3 роки тому +4

      Chur the fkn boys

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 5 років тому +406

    Adding that vertical “pistol grip” is what actually made it full semi automatic...

    • @RT42069
      @RT42069 5 років тому +78

      No, adding the high capacity assault clipazine made it full semi auto

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 5 років тому +42

      @@RT42069 No, the magazine only allows it to fire .30 caliber clips a second.

    • @SGTRandleOneOne
      @SGTRandleOneOne 2 роки тому +14

      Ahh CNN. Gotta love them.

    • @TheBananamonger
      @TheBananamonger Рік тому +7

      This is the gun lawmakers are scared of

    • @martist911wasits-not-real4
      @martist911wasits-not-real4 Рік тому +6

      @@TheBananamonger lawbreaking gun law makers hate this one simple trick!

  • @Bob_of_the_aif
    @Bob_of_the_aif 5 років тому +674

    “Lee Enfields now banned as this video is evidence that auto convention is possible” 😂😂😂

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 5 років тому +48

      I mean... most guns are easily converted to automatic if you have the right tools. >__>

    • @kameradin8964
      @kameradin8964 4 роки тому +82

      @@planescaped yes i need to get my full auto musket

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 4 роки тому +6

      @@kameradin8964 ua-cam.com/video/rCuVMx5h1x0/v-deo.html

    • @honkhonkler7732
      @honkhonkler7732 4 роки тому +6

      Literally all an AK needs is a shim in the trigger mechanism.

    • @virgilio6349
      @virgilio6349 4 роки тому +19

      @@kameradin8964 I mean, if you really want a full auto musket there where multi barreled prototypes. If you want no gun powder, there is also a full auto ballista...

  • @travissmith2211
    @travissmith2211 3 роки тому +74

    Those Kiwi bubbas are something else altogether. The stock does scream bubba, but to make a conversion kit to turn a bolt action into a full auto is a whole other level.

    • @tommywright2487
      @tommywright2487 Рік тому

      what tf is a bubba

    • @smokeyplane3285
      @smokeyplane3285 Рік тому +11

      ​@@tommywright2487
      meme term originally used to describe someone from the southern United States, Appalachia, or otherwise someone who would be referred to as a "redneck" who would take to modifying firearms, legally or illegally, and with a combination of official attachments, common household items, and homemade parts.
      "bubba" has nowadays further changed to refer to anyone who shoddily modifies a firearm, the term "Ali-bubba" is a good example of this referring to people in Arabic countries that modify or create equally second-rate firearms compared to the average "redneck" bubba.

  • @azkrouzreimertz9784
    @azkrouzreimertz9784 5 років тому +505

    all of these conversions seem equally scary firing as being fired upon by them

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 5 років тому +21

      @@anthonydesisto2328 Ah, it chooches like frig.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 5 років тому +8

      @@anthonydesisto2328 and your rhinoceros leather flak jacket

    • @Lone_wolf--br7fi
      @Lone_wolf--br7fi 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/QrHCn69rppg/v-deo.html

  • @dms110D
    @dms110D 5 років тому +819

    The thumbnail made me think "Zealandshnikov"

  • @BernardTheMandeville
    @BernardTheMandeville 5 років тому +603

    The silhouette of this thing looks like a childs drawing of a machine gun

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 5 років тому +44

      This is the gun I'd use of my main method of travel was a hot air balloon

    • @rodstalwart8338
      @rodstalwart8338 5 років тому +1

      Ha ha ha ha!

    • @eneszevrek3485
      @eneszevrek3485 3 роки тому

      If you ask me it even looks a little bit like a Chauchat

    • @mr.randomperson9900
      @mr.randomperson9900 2 роки тому +1

      @@grahamlopez6202 don’t forget the steam powered rockets on the side for ballon to ballon combat.

  • @WalkaCrookedLine
    @WalkaCrookedLine 5 років тому +343

    The companion article is interesting. Struggling to get the guns made, parts were outsourced all over New Zealand; some of the gas pistons were made by the machine shop class at the Hastings Boy’s High School!

    • @deanlonagan1475
      @deanlonagan1475 4 роки тому +12

      lol..thats the town I was born in..never went to that college though..

    • @Shanetangybits
      @Shanetangybits 3 роки тому +22

      The level of panic in this country at the time should be a more recognised part of history. And how quickly things changed from 1938 to 1940. If we did i think we would have a bigger more capable nzdf

    • @pokemaster123ism
      @pokemaster123ism Рік тому

      Now that’s what I call a community effort

    • @DefunctYompelvert
      @DefunctYompelvert 11 місяців тому

      Lol my granddad went there.. he was born in 1931 so could have been involved but probably too young

  • @phantomshotgun
    @phantomshotgun 4 роки тому +69

    "The most coolest and steam-punky guns of WW2"
    Me: that would make a cool Star Wars gun.

  • @robashton8606
    @robashton8606 5 років тому +755

    One should never underestimate what can result from hacking things up in a shed. It is the British way. Nice to see our Antipodean cousins also understand the Power of The Shed.

    • @oiitssean
      @oiitssean 5 років тому +35

      Don't worry about it mate. Piece piss.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 5 років тому +27

      >Antipodean
      Dunno what that means, but how dare you!

    • @mazkact
      @mazkact 5 років тому +45

      Good word I reckon .
      Antipodean
      /anˌtipəˈdēən/
      adjective
      1.
      relating to Australia or New Zealand (used by inhabitants of the northern hemisphere).
      "Antipodean wines"
      love my Yellowtail and Enfields.

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 5 років тому +80

      Two Blokes In A Shed, LLC: Truly a powerhouse in weapon innovation.

    • @robashton8606
      @robashton8606 5 років тому +49

      @Stephen Carran Accuracy International is an excellent example of The Power of the Shed.
      Of course, with eccentricity being one of the essential factors, ninety nine times out of a hundred what issues from the Shed will be an ingenious solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first place, like an amphibious bacon slicer, or a toilet with anti-lock brakes.
      But then there's that one time out of a hundred, when what emerges is a world record breaking speed boat, or a Wellington bomber, or a Lotus Elise, or a bouncing bomb.
      Make no mistake about it gentlemen, Sheds rock.

  • @obsgr1
    @obsgr1 4 роки тому +53

    Designed and built by my great uncle. Nice video, have shared to the family who are currently gaining possession of one.

  • @speckledjim5402
    @speckledjim5402 5 років тому +368

    Like 4 of these still exist, and one of them is going to get crushed because the NZ government are incompetent. There is this one in the UK. There is one in the Army Museum in Waiouru, one in the NZ Police armoury in Trentham, and one in a private collection. The rest were destroyed when the storage unit they were in, burned down, in Palmerston North. The Australian model Charlton is slightly different to this and used Bren magazines.
    EDIT - Luckily the Charlton in question has been saved by a collector in the North Island.

    • @unexpectedcaveman6573
      @unexpectedcaveman6573 5 років тому +10

      There is also (or was at one point) one in the Auckland War Memorial Museum.

    • @Tyrone1111
      @Tyrone1111 5 років тому +7

      yo where did you hear of the government planning on destroying one

    • @seriousnz
      @seriousnz 5 років тому +2

      I have handled the one in the NZ police armory and was surprised at how heavy it was.

    • @floatsomboy
      @floatsomboy 5 років тому +13

      @@Tyrone1111 Because it is a semi auto and they are now illegal to own here in New Zealand, so along with a whole lot of other historic firearms going to be crushed.

    • @floatsomboy
      @floatsomboy 5 років тому +17

      @@zoiders Sure!!! besides most Police in this country know very little about firearms except that they can shoot people so must be destroyed. We are no longer a country of hunters and most Police come form the bigger cities and have little to no exposure to firearms except what training they get in the Police service which is minimal.

  • @loquat4440
    @loquat4440 5 років тому +292

    This is quite a testament of just how strong was the metallurgy and how well designed were the original service rifles dating from 1889 to 1903 (IIRC dates) that they could withstand the rigors of being converted to automatic fire.

    • @CThyran
      @CThyran 5 років тому +51

      Gotta respect the Victorian/Edwardian overbuilding, those things won't just give up the ghost even after you Frankenstein it into a machine gun.

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 5 років тому +52

      My father was an engineer in the slip stick era. Rule of thumb for designing a pressure vessel. 1) Calculate wall thickmess 2) Add a safety margin 3) add 1 and 2 together 4) Double it.

    • @loquat4440
      @loquat4440 5 років тому +20

      @@colbeausabre8842 It is not just the pressure of the cartridge, but the ability of al of the bits and pieces of the action to take the wear and tear of that operation. I may have missed it, but I do not recall Ian saying anything about the the extractor or ejector which are also stressed by such operation.

    • @bigsmoke6189
      @bigsmoke6189 3 роки тому +9

      @@loquat4440 it lasted 10,000 rds so that tells you how durable they were .

    • @adobotachibana732
      @adobotachibana732 2 роки тому

      @@colbeausabre8842 what is the slip stick era?

  • @Bloodreign137
    @Bloodreign137 5 років тому +181

    Me at the beginning of the story: wow what an amazing gun I’ll probably never get to see
    Me at the middle: wow! Maybe I will see one someday! 1500 is more than a lot of the guns on this channel.
    Me at the end: silently crying about the warehouse

    • @damonhunter2564
      @damonhunter2564 5 років тому +12

      Bloodreign137 last time I checked there was one in the C category room at gun city Christchurch here in new zealand

    • @Bloodreign137
      @Bloodreign137 5 років тому +3

      Damon Hunter I’ll have to figure out a trip to New Zealand it sounds like! Thank you for the information on that sir

    • @alistairsamson299
      @alistairsamson299 5 років тому +15

      Visit the UK royal armouries Leeds,
      we might not like private gun ownership, but we understand the importance of museums and history😉

    • @themattbat999
      @themattbat999 2 роки тому +1

      I felt that

    • @spudhunt01
      @spudhunt01 2 роки тому

      Private collector in kapiti coast has one

  • @brendenwymer3976
    @brendenwymer3976 5 років тому +310

    The weapon was made in 1941 and the video is 19:41. coincidence? I THINK NOT!!

    • @lukum55
      @lukum55 5 років тому +1

      The video is 19:40

    • @firstname5418
      @firstname5418 5 років тому +15

      @@lukum55 no its not its 19:41

    • @lukum55
      @lukum55 5 років тому

      @@firstname5418 Were you dropped on your head as a baby or are you just trolling?

    • @kirilnikolovski81
      @kirilnikolovski81 5 років тому +3

      Sneaky jesus

    • @LaterMeansBrick
      @LaterMeansBrick 5 років тому +9

      Thats the Chapter and Verse from the Book of Browning. Praised be the Ammo can of Antioch.

  • @the51project
    @the51project 5 років тому +517

    "From my cold dead steampunky hands"

    • @drivanradosivic1357
      @drivanradosivic1357 5 років тому +10

      Dieselpunk actually.

    • @carll.freemanjr.9867
      @carll.freemanjr.9867 4 роки тому

      Who made up this steampunk garbage bullshit?

    • @brandonobaza8610
      @brandonobaza8610 4 роки тому +5

      Southern Catfishing Douchey hipsters living in a Victorian Renaissance festival who ride Pennyfarthings and express their creativity by pumping steam into random objects.
      Now, for some reason, steampunk is anything with copper, brass, bronze, or silver, wood furniture, cooling fins, or exposed reciprocating parts, often having no relation to steam.

    • @justicar5
      @justicar5 3 роки тому +1

      @@carll.freemanjr.9867 Goths with engineering skills, been a thing since at least The Difference Engine by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 2 роки тому +1

      @@carll.freemanjr.9867 Literally a guy at a publishing company describing a single-digit number of authors who wrote stories set in 'what if the world's tech base topped out at steam and clockwork and it's society consequently didn't change all that much from victorian times... but technological development kept going anyway?' type worlds. ... Guy literally referred to them as "those steam punks" and it stuck. Follow that up with similar stories appearing in a few media with more pictures and the aesthetic becoming moderately popular, and there you are. Steampunk. (in terms of story writing and world building, it actually Does have some significant elements in common with Cyberpunk, which helped the name stick, though it has a lot of differences too. Pretty much every other 'punk' genre of fiction (but not music) derives from one of those two).

  • @mattwells5347
    @mattwells5347 5 років тому +139

    To me it’s like someone hybridized the Howell, Chauchat, and Thompson and cut open the receiver

    • @iloveindomienoodle
      @iloveindomienoodle 5 років тому +3

      And using the Kalashnikov's stock

    • @dankykay1
      @dankykay1 5 років тому +4

      Double the fire rate of a Chauchat though!

    • @user-oh2kt8lf6g
      @user-oh2kt8lf6g 5 років тому +3

      In you know the trick of replacing the mag quickly.

  • @eobardthawne3333
    @eobardthawne3333 5 років тому +103

    Thompson: boy that Howell was an excellent lay. hopefully she took her pill.
    9 months later...

    • @kungflumaster5495
      @kungflumaster5495 5 років тому +6

      Howell : you monster you abondoned and my kids and now the charlrons are all dead screw you

    • @MarkGoding
      @MarkGoding 4 роки тому +3

      Shot his load too early.

    • @Goldchaingarcia
      @Goldchaingarcia 7 місяців тому +1

      - gurgling, sounds of horror, beyond human comprehension -
      " FaaTTHHeerrRRrr "

  • @moosemaimer
    @moosemaimer 5 років тому +39

    "they'd have to do a good heat treat job on this [...] but that's not a technically difficult thing to do"
    Springfield Armory: "Yeah, you fahkin' try it there chief"

  • @rautavaara9194
    @rautavaara9194 5 років тому +101

    Judging by previous Q&A's, this has to one of Ian's favorite Forgotten Weapons.

  • @John.VanSwearingen
    @John.VanSwearingen 5 років тому +165

    That faceguard looks perfectly engineered to shatter an orbital socket under recoil.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 5 років тому +19

      Doubt it. Considerable mass has been added, the sights raised. it's not a cheek weld weapon anymore. With a cheek weld you couldn't see the sights, let alone the target.

  • @jagx234
    @jagx234 5 років тому +29

    I had no idea that a bolt to semi conversion had ever been successful. Wow!

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 5 років тому +2

      The Howell shoots fairly well also. See the video of firing if you haven't.

    • @spacecadet35
      @spacecadet35 5 років тому +2

      This is a bolt to full auto conversion.

    • @RvEijndhoven
      @RvEijndhoven 4 роки тому

      I didn't either, but I did know for a fact that if one had, it would have to be an ANZAC conversion of a British rifle.

  • @aaronjohnson8575
    @aaronjohnson8575 2 роки тому +8

    This is the NZ-41 from Vanguard.

  • @michaelpee9471
    @michaelpee9471 5 років тому +63

    Ian thank you for referencing companion pieces to your website. Makes for a more fascinating and in depth dive.

  • @n.a.4292
    @n.a.4292 5 років тому +221

    Ah yes Project Kiwinator: New Zealand most powerful weapon, right after Semple tank.

    • @anthonyhayes1267
      @anthonyhayes1267 5 років тому +25

      A bold statement when referencing the most formidable tool of inestimable destruction the world has ever seen.

    • @howardchambers9679
      @howardchambers9679 5 років тому +11

      Never mock the ANZACS, they will find you...

    • @corinhings177
      @corinhings177 5 років тому +3

      We use what we got and we use it well.

    • @dr.lyleevans6915
      @dr.lyleevans6915 5 років тому +6

      The Semple Tank is the sole reasons aliens are scared to mess with us

  • @TheFridge
    @TheFridge 5 років тому +201

    I'm willing to bet that if you stick the nose of a bullet into that cam retention flap and run the bolt, it would pop that cover off. (12:45)
    Kiwis are a clever mob with things like that ;)

    • @Innomen
      @Innomen 5 років тому +6

      I concur.

    • @zensempai7371
      @zensempai7371 5 років тому +2

      Statue bro ?

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 5 років тому +9

      Agreed, as a Canadian we had similar work-arounds to sort our gear. We have two “big brothers” America and the Brits so we had heaps of envy and so created a can-do attitude to make up for our inferior gear, (which was often hand me downs for both of those countries).

    • @petewood2350
      @petewood2350 5 років тому +1

      Stephen Carran, Don't forget the Jet Boat.

    • @saintpoli6800
      @saintpoli6800 3 роки тому +1

      @@john-paulsilke893
      That’s actually a really good way of describing the relationships between us three. Though nobody likes those French-Canadians because they’re, well, French.

  • @Atraks-1_MILF_Exo
    @Atraks-1_MILF_Exo 2 роки тому +12

    Honestly it's the coolest rifle that exists.

  • @grenli6443
    @grenli6443 2 роки тому +4

    Warzone Pacific brought me here.. thanks for the history lesson on this wonderful weapon 👌🏽

  • @jessetane8802
    @jessetane8802 4 роки тому +5

    I'm from New Zealand and wasn't aware that this existed. Just looking at what was done at the time it is amazing to see what could be done with so little. Taking into consideration that there was rationing of anything considered to be essential to the war effort and they managed to engineer this effective simple weapon that was reliable only using leftover obsolete weapons. Just amazing and as we say here "good old kiwi ingenuity". Thank you for another great video on these forgotten weapons.

  • @davidwatson8118
    @davidwatson8118 5 років тому +62

    What is it in the 19 and 20th century DNA of Kiwis and Aussies ? Need a gun, need a combine harvester, need mechanical shears, need a better lawn mower, need a decent cloths line, need a torpedo, need refrigeration, need stump jump plough, need an aeroplane, yeh no worries mate, I'll go down the shed and see what I can build, just keep the missus off me back for a day or two.😂

    • @peterwouldes3925
      @peterwouldes3925 5 років тому +9

      That is pretty accurate. Not having the ability to just get something imported quickly or at all means that making it yourself is the only option.

    • @spacecadet35
      @spacecadet35 5 років тому +8

      Somebody in Wellington was given the task of making a better dentists drill, so they cam e up with the high speed air drill that you probably cursed at during your last visit.

    • @davidwatson8118
      @davidwatson8118 5 років тому +11

      @Paul Milford
      "Fascist left " ? 🤣😂 do you realise how stupid that statement is.? 🤣
      So whats " happening now " ? Please enlighten us all.
      What a load of shit.

    • @spacecadet35
      @spacecadet35 5 років тому +2

      @@davidwatson8118 - empirically, the literacy rate has gone from 98+% to 65% and the average IQ is dropping 3 - 4% per decade. This is caused by modern teaching "Theories" being implemented.

    • @EthanThomson
      @EthanThomson 5 років тому +2

      @@spacecadet35 or because society places less interest in intelligence so less kids really give a fuck about school
      or you're pulling figures out of your ass

  • @razeel2000
    @razeel2000 5 років тому +41

    A beautiful gun. Imagine the Japanese if they would've encountered those. "The locals fear nothing. Just look at what they dare to shoot with! We have lost; lets go home!"

  • @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
    @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE 5 років тому +18

    Chauchat+AK-47+Bren=this masterpiece.

  • @pemjoe
    @pemjoe 5 років тому +10

    Would LOVE to see a video of this at the range!

  • @tlshortyshorty5810
    @tlshortyshorty5810 5 років тому +202

    Reminds me a bit too much of the Chauchat...

    • @Q__tube
      @Q__tube 5 років тому +9

      Shorty Shorty im triggered just by that word

    • @QUACKHEAD23GAMING
      @QUACKHEAD23GAMING 5 років тому +4

      the chuchet on gattlefeild 1 was so powerful it was so easy to control

    • @homemadetech5712
      @homemadetech5712 5 років тому +18

      whitehall GAMING and VLOGGING its a game not real life
      In real life, it was quite faulty in muddy conditions due to its open magazine and complicated/long recoil mechanism

    • @neilhillis9858
      @neilhillis9858 5 років тому +18

      BF1 is a run-and-gun, rambo-esque, needlessly frustrating ahistorical pile of beautifully rendered garbage. That game had the perfect chance to introduce massive numbers of people to the tension, the great tactical differences, and need for real cooperation between teammates to provide cover for one another's slow weapon action. Verdun >> BF1 by far, if you value earnest attempts at historical accuracy - and done remarkably well, without BF1s giant corporate budget.

    • @MushroomCloudGaming
      @MushroomCloudGaming 5 років тому +17

      @@neilhillis9858 That is like saying complaining about historical authenticity in a Tarantino film.
      As for the video, great to see this gun being showcased, absolutely love these semi and full auto conversions.

  • @spuriousevent7332
    @spuriousevent7332 3 роки тому +6

    Once again you've brought an amazing piece of history back. Kudos. Enjoyed this fully.

  • @kickinitoutdoors5782
    @kickinitoutdoors5782 5 років тому +2

    I am a WWII Historian by hobby and have studied every facet of this war and still learn tones I don't know after 20 + years, but have only read about this conversion, I just want to thank you so much for showing us these weapons most of us would never have the opportunity to view other wise. You do great work sir thanks again.

  • @parasitic1344
    @parasitic1344 5 місяців тому +11

    17:40 “thats a subject for a separate video” *4 years later* The separate video

  • @MilesFPantston
    @MilesFPantston 5 років тому +31

    Ian: Vertical pistol grip is an essential element here.
    California would like to know your location.

  • @USSEnterpriseA1701
    @USSEnterpriseA1701 5 років тому +12

    What an amazing coincidence. I just happen to have a 1918 SHTLE MK III* right here to compare to. Funny what happens when you didn't feel like putting things all the way back after a range trip.

  • @damonhunter2564
    @damonhunter2564 5 років тому +2

    I’m a kiwi and iv been waiting 5 long years for this video, bloody awesome, so stocked, cheers

  • @zaynevanday142
    @zaynevanday142 3 роки тому +1

    I served in the New Zealand 🇳🇿 Army so this was a real treat

  • @PixitheGreat
    @PixitheGreat 5 років тому +56

    FrankEnfield. Am I the only one who thinks the pistol grip looks like a sawn-off stool leg?

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 5 років тому +9

      Just bought up a few extra stools from the local pub.

    • @wraithcadmus
      @wraithcadmus 5 років тому +38

      "Why am I sitting 6 inches lower?"
      "Rationing mate"

    • @dukenukem8409
      @dukenukem8409 5 років тому +1

      u nailed it bro

    • @Brian-tn4cd
      @Brian-tn4cd 5 місяців тому

      Bit of a late answer, but I've read stories that that was exactly the case with the prototypes

  • @CountSpartula
    @CountSpartula 5 років тому +40

    "If you have a 20 round Lee-Enfield mag, those will work just fine"
    *A solid minute of fiddling with the magazine later*
    "There we go. Locked in place."
    Seems legit.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 3 роки тому +2

      Non-Kiwi hasn't been taught the trick by local RSM.

  • @okcantbelieveit294
    @okcantbelieveit294 2 роки тому +2

    I find this channel is, without doubt, one of, if not the most watchable, of the armaments channels! No yelling and blustering just very knowledgeable demonstrations by a person who’s done thorough research!

  • @HeavyMetalMonkey
    @HeavyMetalMonkey 5 років тому +177

    Ian, what the f*ck, it just isn't fair how cool you are.

    • @jayytee8062
      @jayytee8062 5 років тому +1

      Cringe!

    • @HeavyMetalMonkey
      @HeavyMetalMonkey 5 років тому +13

      @@jayytee8062 cringe what?

    • @jayytee8062
      @jayytee8062 5 років тому +2

      @@HeavyMetalMonkey
      Your comment suck hole!

    • @microbicgorilla
      @microbicgorilla 5 років тому +20

      Jayy Tee oh no it’s cringe cause he likes Ian? So what?

    • @HeavyMetalMonkey
      @HeavyMetalMonkey 5 років тому +17

      @@jayytee8062 why? Because I'm jealous of all the awesome things Ian shows us on his channel?

  • @CaptainGrief66
    @CaptainGrief66 5 років тому +47

    This thing looks amazing, it's right in between being Dieselpunk and Steampunk and it just is awesome

  • @iudsaenmotrango3271
    @iudsaenmotrango3271 5 років тому +8

    A truly remarkable weapon from a fascinating period of history. I've been waiting and hoping to see this on the channel ever since I heard you mention it on In-Range Q&A with Karl (I was fascinated by the idea of a bolt-action conversion that *wasn't* hot garbage). It's always great to see these parts of history we never would from places we might not be able to travel to!

    • @lewisirwin5363
      @lewisirwin5363 5 років тому +1

      And hopefully one day we may see someone fire one, too! Probably only a copycat one, but still.

  • @brandontanis388
    @brandontanis388 Рік тому +11

    I would love to find a full set of machinist prints for this design.

  • @madmick3794
    @madmick3794 3 роки тому +1

    The Aussies and Kiwis showed some brilliant ingenuity when times called for it.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @plussum3255
    @plussum3255 5 років тому +32

    It's midnight here in New Zealand

  • @MVolkJ
    @MVolkJ 4 роки тому +5

    I just realized that the selector lever on the Charlton is actually a modification of the original rifle's rear volley sight arm. Now that's recycling!

  • @twobrotherscycleanda
    @twobrotherscycleanda 3 роки тому +1

    That story would make a great movie.

  • @beda204
    @beda204 3 роки тому +12

    So I start playing Vanguard Beta & this video is suddenly suggested 😂😂

    • @YellowDogWithCone
      @YellowDogWithCone 2 роки тому +1

      It's a shame they mirrored the model for no reason though.

    • @Caddy47273
      @Caddy47273 2 роки тому +3

      @@YellowDogWithCone ITs for the player to see the cool aesthetic of the gun, if it werent mirrored, we wouldn't see much

  • @BrodieD
    @BrodieD 5 років тому +71

    Been some cool weapons come from Australia and New Zealand

    • @natepatterson4934
      @natepatterson4934 5 років тому +15

      Just about anything mechanical out of Kiwi-land is pretty amazing. Motorcycles for instance: Britten V1000 or Burt Munroe’s Indian Bonneville bike.

    • @Ragnarok203
      @Ragnarok203 5 років тому +8

      Gotta love seeing our little ol' country pop up :D

    • @Keifsanderson
      @Keifsanderson 5 років тому +7

      Most impressive is the bioweapons program. Drop Bears, Carnivorous Kangaroos, etc.

    • @BrodieD
      @BrodieD 5 років тому +2

      @@Keifsanderson don't forget the emus

    • @BrodieD
      @BrodieD 5 років тому +5

      @@iatsd if NZ is involved in conflict you can guarantee the Aussies would more than likely be there as well

  • @Estinus
    @Estinus 5 років тому +24

    DICE/EA: Write that down, write that down!!

  • @signingjoe1
    @signingjoe1 2 роки тому +8

    For anyone who is interested, this is the NZ-41 from call of duty vanguard. it's also classified as a " assault rifle"! lol

    • @v12ts.gaming
      @v12ts.gaming 10 місяців тому

      WWII featured this long before Vanguard as a DLC weapon lol

  • @conwaybown1959
    @conwaybown1959 3 роки тому +1

    Another fascinating video. Thanks for doing so much research and taking the trouble to create this video channel.

  • @tomf4889
    @tomf4889 5 років тому +18

    As a New Zealander Maurice was probably pronounced ‘Morris’.

    • @bronsonperich9430
      @bronsonperich9430 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah it is. My uncle's name is Maurice, and we all called him Uncle Morris. RIP uncle.

  • @d3faulted2
    @d3faulted2 5 років тому +44

    I'm really curious how they managed the trigger mechanism works for select fire. Also i really want to see a mud test......

    • @The_New_IKB
      @The_New_IKB 5 років тому +3

      I second that

    • @kevynhansyn2902
      @kevynhansyn2902 5 років тому +1

      And Sand!

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 5 років тому +5

      Big pieces moving at velocity, I think it might clear itself.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому +1

      It's just a dropping sear in the SMLE, right? Should make full auto simple.
      The trick is the out-of-battery sear setup.

  • @markrowland1366
    @markrowland1366 3 роки тому +1

    Here in New Zealand, we call the round disk cooling fins and spacer , washers. We still make them here in memory of these very Kiwi, guns.

  • @larryjohnson150
    @larryjohnson150 5 років тому +4

    Guns like these are some of my favorites as they are so weird and you always wonder why they hell they would go so far to convert a bolt action instead of building an automatic.

  • @T_bone
    @T_bone 5 років тому +8

    Leave it to Kiwis to make probably the most interesting steam punk style but functional gun I at least have seen. When you are in the middle of the ocean, it lends to your ingenuity.

  • @lewisirwin5363
    @lewisirwin5363 3 роки тому +7

    11:50 Someone sacrifice their beloved Lee Enfield, we need to see one of these in action! For Science!

  • @rickyracestrickland8927
    @rickyracestrickland8927 3 роки тому +1

    Ian has the best job on the planet!!!! Forgotten Weapons is THE BEST firearms show EVER!!! I just hope he never tears one of these guns up fooling with'em!!! Lol Keep the videos coming Ian!!!

  • @DarkEclipse223
    @DarkEclipse223 2 роки тому +5

    This gun is in vanguard but known as the NZ-1

  • @charleshaynes815
    @charleshaynes815 5 років тому +10

    Very cool but also a spectacular mud test failure in waiting

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 5 років тому +6

      Probably not a big problem in Australia. Your more likely to get a Koala stuck in the magazine.

    • @korstmahler
      @korstmahler 5 років тому +1

      @@voiceofraisin3778 It's a problem in New Zealand. We live in a jungle charitably allowing us to plonk cities down. The fields are more likely to be reclaimed swamp land than cleared bush.

  • @Arthurzeiro
    @Arthurzeiro 5 років тому +8

    That's a kiwilashnikov.

  • @johnlawrence7097
    @johnlawrence7097 5 років тому +2

    This is amazing and I love all the unique quirks of this rifle

  • @olddynamite
    @olddynamite 5 років тому +5

    I want a the original video back up where Ian fights putting the mag back in for 11 minutes

  • @fien111
    @fien111 5 років тому +6

    "Brett, we need LMGs! Should we start setting up lines to make a Bren or CZ?"
    "Well we could do that or I have this fever dream I've been cobbling into reality in my shed!"

  • @1Okoya1
    @1Okoya1 3 роки тому +1

    not gonna lie that is by far the most steampunk firearm I've ever seen and it looks badass

  • @scoireamerica1609
    @scoireamerica1609 5 років тому +2

    I would love to hear this one fire. Thank you Ian.

  • @alexplatt3972
    @alexplatt3972 5 років тому +8

    Hi Ian, thanks for the video, fascinating weapon. I wonder if one day, you might do a video on the metallurgy of weapons manufacture. Especially over the last century with the advent of automatic weapons.

  • @hbomb3251
    @hbomb3251 5 років тому +4

    Valiant video Ian! Bloody well like this in Call Of Duty WWII

    • @voongnz
      @voongnz 5 років тому +2

      Lol this is where I first saw it.

  • @bushmonsterwilhelm6716
    @bushmonsterwilhelm6716 5 років тому +2

    Thanks a lot on this gun's information. I have been looking for more info on this absoulte monstrocity of a weapon for a while. I love this channel.

  • @yalefail
    @yalefail 3 роки тому +1

    It was a C14 long tom, sent over from Canada in 1914, if the stocks to go by. E14 is from England. i have a NZ03 one that was here new in 1903, and its a long tom, has HG marks and has escaped repair standards, so still has lob sight and mag cutoff, also no sXs marks. We even had our own long tom carbine, called a NZ carbine, theyre pretty cool

  • @MrBackpussy
    @MrBackpussy 5 років тому +3

    I have been hoping for years that you would get your hands on one of these! Kiwis will make anything work if they have to.

  • @antonchigurh5472
    @antonchigurh5472 2 роки тому +4

    They have these in the new call of duty lol

  • @Nordy941
    @Nordy941 5 років тому +1

    Another interesting gun conversion I never would heard of without you gun.

  • @danilonakazone386
    @danilonakazone386 4 роки тому +1

    I really love these first semi/full- auto guns from way back when! It's so interesting and AMAZING how people from 100 years ago kind of saw what the future for small arms were and they made whatever they could! I love your channel Ian (AKA Gun Jesus)

  • @jehb8945
    @jehb8945 5 років тому +10

    Just like the Howell rifle I absolutely love how steampunk this thing looks and from what Ian said this crazy doohickey actually worked really well.
    nothing like a little patriotism and a hair up your ass to inspire you to create something this crazy that actually worked

  • @bojackk7191
    @bojackk7191 2 роки тому +7

    NZ-41

  • @davidandrew1078
    @davidandrew1078 Рік тому

    The Collection started at the Pattern Room at Enfield, moved to Nottingham and, ended up at Leeds.

  • @hayi8957
    @hayi8957 3 роки тому +1

    11:05 "If you can find a 20 round Lee Enfield magazine, that will fit as well"
    Proceeds to spend the next 17 seconds attempting to fit said magazine into the well :P
    Love you Ian

  • @tetchedink7980
    @tetchedink7980 5 років тому +10

    I've never said this about a firearm before but...it looks in pain

  • @TheChad138
    @TheChad138 2 роки тому +5

    How unlikely is it that this gun ended up in a call of duty, lol.

  • @mr.international2778
    @mr.international2778 3 роки тому +1

    Charlton: WHAT DID THOSE GUNSMITHS DO TO ME. THEY TURNED ME INTO A FREAK.
    Howell and Turner: First time?

  • @markorsburn8575
    @markorsburn8575 5 років тому +1

    I have anticipated this video for quite sometime, thank you.

  • @visual-_effects_forlife9243
    @visual-_effects_forlife9243 2 роки тому +4

    Where’s the 50 round mag? And 4 times and 8 times scope????

  • @Activated_Complex
    @Activated_Complex 5 років тому +3

    It’s the Chauchashnikov...ski...wi...
    This has got to be the culmination of the converted bolt-actions, I assume. Interesting to see the concept develop into a serviceable rifle. Thanks for the video.

  • @nicholasfitzsimmons7311
    @nicholasfitzsimmons7311 4 роки тому +1

    I need one now! I love all the lee enfields and this has got to be something that is truly spectacular!

  • @saabaton169
    @saabaton169 3 роки тому +1

    If this was made today, I can see it having a nicely moulded plastic guard over the moving parts

  • @niklasaskham4208
    @niklasaskham4208 5 років тому +32

    New Zealand represent! Pity we can’t even own semi automatics any more

    • @raftash5279
      @raftash5279 5 років тому +5

      We all knew one mass shooting would be all it takes....

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 5 років тому +13

      Don’t know about your part of the country, but pretty much everyone here in the south that I’ve spoken to is going to just hide/bury their proscribed firearms until the law changes

    • @jamestapp8576
      @jamestapp8576 5 років тому +6

      Sadly, those laws never seem to move backwards, only further restricted

    • @magnacartasamadams8189
      @magnacartasamadams8189 5 років тому +3

      Yup and they're going to ship a bunch of muslims to your country so they can take over in you all can't do anything about it Look at Australia they didn't even have a law on the books for home invasion until they banned guns now home invasion rates have skyrocketed

    • @Nate-ov7mt
      @Nate-ov7mt 5 років тому +1

      @@Ebalosus if they do, they cant complain if they get caught. And they cant say it's the law is turning legal "responsible" gun owners into crims, when they make the decision to break the law themselves. People are letting the American gun culture influence ours, which the two couldn't be more different

  • @samueljohnstone3028
    @samueljohnstone3028 5 років тому +6

    New Zealand in the good old days of the British Empire, we have the nanny state now☹

  • @billy.g3597
    @billy.g3597 4 роки тому

    The Charlton auto rifle. A gun that was kept back in case of surprise attacks and boy , they were in for a surprise !!!.

  • @xsx_thunder2410
    @xsx_thunder2410 2 роки тому +2

    So this is why it's called the NZ 41 in call of duty

  • @kiwihame
    @kiwihame 5 років тому +3

    Wow, didnt know about this. Nice one Ian. Cheers from Christchurch, NZ.