Hello Matt. New subscriber from the US. I've been a airgunner since 1979. You gave good practical common sense advice. Just about everybody scopes there air guns so this lesson was much appreciated. ScottinUS
Because the scope is angled down, the pellet trajectory is slightly upwards for some yards when shooting at a target at the same altitude as your firing point. But for its low speed, air resistance and a back-stop it would be in a low orbit of the earth and hit you in the back of your head if you hadn't gone for tea by the time it got back. Google "Ross Dynamics Lab" for a free course on the maths. I'd say "It's not rocket science" - but it actually is.
Well thank you very much :). The HW95 is a very solid, dependable gun. A true long term machine. The TBT kit I fitted was a lovely improvement too :). Glad you liked the video.
One thing not covered here that is especially true with break barrel springers is the "barrel droop" that can grossly affect the "line of sight" with the "line of flight". On many break barrels that I checked in stores, the angle of the barrel is not the same as the cylinder, and you can check by looking down the side while aiming at a light source. Often the reflection of the light on the barrel is NOT the same line as on the cylinder. Really frustrating that they are made this way, and I don't know the reason behind it. If the springer has the "iron sights" mounted on the barrel itself, then barrel droop is of no consequence. But if it is made with dovetails to accommodate a scope, then some serious shimming of the scope may be required. I tested my new "OneLeaf NV400" digital scope (awesome scope) on my Stoeger air rifle, and it shot 18" below target at 20 yards. That's when I observed the barrel droop. After much fiddling with finding a sufficient shimming of the scope, it now shoots with 1/2" groupings at 20 yards, perfect for ratting. Hope this helps with solving other issues one may have with zeroing a scope to a break barrel rifle. Under lever type springers or PCP rifles with barrels fixed to the cylinder tend to not have this issue, but should be checked as well if zeroing a scope is not cooperating.
Very good point. In fact my recently acquired HW80 .25cal (see video's called Hulk(W)80 ) has some droop and I'm playing with a Hawke mouth with droop compensation at the moment...mixed results!
i like the stalking side, anyone can shoot long distance with practice, but not everyone works on the skill of getting in close, plus the further away you shoot the further you have to go get your quarry 😲 before i go out i zero the scope and set the mag usually 6x and look at a 2" disc/section of the target which is a rabbit head size(i know younger rabbits have a smaller head ) and make a mental note of how many mildots are covered. IE: 3-4 dots at 25m, this gives me a sort of range i am from to target, smaller target is further away. i then stalk in until head fits the scope...
Hi Matt. Thankyou for your footage and advice. I think you've you've emphasised the importance, to set out numerous sights, at varying distances, to see where an air rifle is shooting. It's vital an airgun shooter knows what height, or where his pellet will be at, at varying distances.
It's a useful thing to do, as well you know, because ballistics calculators and apps dont always take everything into account, and nothing works better than practical testing. And lets face it... in comparison with other gun shooting.. airgunning is cheap enough that you can justify 7 shots groups at various distances
@@mattscountry363 Can just get a cigarette packet thickness between my scope and barrel ( barrel shroud ) even then I can feel it dragging through the gap slightly.. ideal ...
Easygoing tutorial, very well explained, thank you - and a thumbs-up for iron sights, which I like because they are far quicker to adjust and use.
That's very kind of you to say so. Thank you :)
Very well explained! Thanks for not saying the pellet jumps up as it leaves the barrel!
that only happens in my HW80 when I'm not controlling the recoil/balance properly and at that point EVERYTHING jump up!
Hello Matt. New subscriber from the US. I've been a airgunner since 1979. You gave good practical common sense advice. Just about everybody scopes there air guns so this lesson was much appreciated. ScottinUS
Cheers Scott :) | am glad you liked the vid. Nice to see kind words :)
Learnt so much from just 2 x videos I’ve watched of yours 👏🏼👌
Well that's superb! I'm glad. Thank you!!
Thank you for a reassuring informative video for an old newbie,
Well that is my pleasure. Thank you for your kind words :)
I also like the head cover and the old school camo parka! Your rifle looks superb, as well. I'm primarily a springer man, too. ScottinUSA
The pellet never comes up the scope is angled down
Because the scope is angled down, the pellet trajectory is slightly upwards for some yards when shooting at a target at the same altitude as your firing point. But for its low speed, air resistance and a back-stop it would be in a low orbit of the earth and hit you in the back of your head if you hadn't gone for tea by the time it got back.
Google "Ross Dynamics Lab" for a free course on the maths. I'd say "It's not rocket science" - but it actually is.
Yes a 3-9x32 cuts down parallax error being it gets closer to the barrel .
Excellent for hunting and HFT shooting nice video Cheers 🥂
Thanks Neil
Well explained.
Well thank you for the kind words :)
Nice rifle! Good video
Well thank you very much :). The HW95 is a very solid, dependable gun. A true long term machine. The TBT kit I fitted was a lovely improvement too :). Glad you liked the video.
One thing not covered here that is especially true with break barrel springers is the "barrel droop" that can grossly affect the "line of sight" with the "line of flight". On many break barrels that I checked in stores, the angle of the barrel is not the same as the cylinder, and you can check by looking down the side while aiming at a light source. Often the reflection of the light on the barrel is NOT the same line as on the cylinder. Really frustrating that they are made this way, and I don't know the reason behind it.
If the springer has the "iron sights" mounted on the barrel itself, then barrel droop is of no consequence. But if it is made with dovetails to accommodate a scope, then some serious shimming of the scope may be required. I tested my new "OneLeaf NV400" digital scope (awesome scope) on my Stoeger air rifle, and it shot 18" below target at 20 yards. That's when I observed the barrel droop. After much fiddling with finding a sufficient shimming of the scope, it now shoots with 1/2" groupings at 20 yards, perfect for ratting.
Hope this helps with solving other issues one may have with zeroing a scope to a break barrel rifle. Under lever type springers or PCP rifles with barrels fixed to the cylinder tend to not have this issue, but should be checked as well if zeroing a scope is not cooperating.
Very good point. In fact my recently acquired HW80 .25cal (see video's called Hulk(W)80 ) has some droop and I'm playing with a Hawke mouth with droop compensation at the moment...mixed results!
Another good one mate ! Look forward to the next one.
More to come! More to come :) I have numerous things to discuss, explain and hopefully help people understand things a little...more clearly
i like the stalking side, anyone can shoot long distance with practice, but not everyone works on the skill of getting in close, plus the further away you shoot the further you have to go get your quarry 😲
before i go out i zero the scope and set the mag usually 6x and look at a 2" disc/section of the target which is a rabbit head size(i know younger rabbits have a smaller head ) and make a mental note of how many mildots are covered.
IE: 3-4 dots at 25m, this gives me a sort of range i am from to target, smaller target is further away. i then stalk in until head fits the scope...
That's very very good advice... stalk in close, and learn your field craft. And lets also remember, the rabbit's brain cavity is quite small too.
Hi Matt. Thankyou for your footage and advice.
I think you've you've emphasised the importance, to set out numerous sights, at varying distances, to see where an air rifle is shooting.
It's vital an airgun shooter knows what height, or where his pellet will be at, at varying distances.
It's a useful thing to do, as well you know, because ballistics calculators and apps dont always take everything into account, and nothing works better than practical testing. And lets face it... in comparison with other gun shooting.. airgunning is cheap enough that you can justify 7 shots groups at various distances
Brilliant.
Chris that is very kind of you to say, Thank you Sir. Best regards, Matt
Its a very nice gun matt, that one in particular.
You, Sir, are biased :)
@@mattscountry363 yes.. yes I am 🤗
Interesting subject
Thank you :)
How about Alloway pellets
Red Kite @6:35
Is your scope touching the barrel ?
On all my guns it's very close to the cylinder on a springer or barrel on a PCP .. as close as I can get it.
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Can just get a cigarette packet thickness between my scope and barrel ( barrel shroud ) even then I can feel it dragging through the gap slightly.. ideal ...