@@thejeffinvade Are you kidding? The Chinese of all people should know the Japanese earned the A bomb. Nanjing massacre caused by Japanese for instance was a stain on human history that can never be forgotten! it was regrettable but unavoidable....
Only Chinese PLA the people army tank can stop in front of a normal people!!USA or so called demoncrazy tank will shoot the demonstrators and move forward roll over the "enemy"...We have see this in many countries crack downs... I am very proud of the PLA and China!
@@pekingman3034 you should be really proud of MAO ZEDONG the Chinese communist leader who has the highest number of murders in the world higher than STALIN and Hitler combine the victims where its own people
As a Chinese grown in mainland, we have more understanding about the protest, I appreciate their efforts for democracy,but it was also naive and ignorant protest in 1980s triggered by CIA and Western proganda.it disturbed China's way for development
So for 30 years, June 4th of each year is your working day, right? The Arab Spring, the Czech 77 Charter and a series of manipulations in Latin America. Failed in China, is it sad for you? Rolling aside
The first intentions of the protests was for fighting against corruption and errors in economic policies, they used to ask for government transparency and ending corruption. But then, the so-called "pro-democratic" forces got involved soon after, and the protests emerged into a demand for the uplift of the existing regime and abolishment of the socialist system. This of course was a threat to the Chinese government.
It is true that there were people gunned down, injured or dead. However, first, this happened around the square, not in it. Second, the government admitted in their report that the soldiers killed only a few protesters and accidentally wounded the onlookers. Last, you may think it is too far that the soldiers killed the students, but nobody said it was too far that the protesters burned military vehicles or attack and even attempt to murder the soldiers, not happening to gun them down in the first place.
Conlcusion: the Tiananmen Square Events could have been a real democratic movement, but as "pro-democratic forces" got involved, it actually turned into a Chinese version of the Arab Spring or the Eastern Europe in 1989. There were students killed, but more soldiers and police died because of the conflicts and *riots (see the Wikipedia preface of "1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre")* around the square.
I keep praying that all Communists regime, whether they are in China, Vietnam, Cuba or North Korea, will all fall one day to at last liberate billions of people from their sufferings.
Oh sweet summer child. Anyone who's wiser will know that these countries will simply evolve into corrupt shitholes like what's happened with Central America, Mexico, Brazil, post-1991 Russia and India, trading a series of hardship with another. There is no light in the end of the tunnel either way.
I don't think you can call China, Cuba and Vietnam communist countries today well North Korea maybe their government refuses to change but you can argue that NK after the 1994 isn't a communist country its more of a Dynasty that only cares about keeping power within the ruling family
Ok I read through some of the comments. There are people critisising ccp and there are people defending it. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who's right or wrong as history is already written and nothing can change it. What's important is that our people must realise that we cannot afford another riot, or massacre, or whatever you call. Because it just doesn't solve any problems but only create more.
The problem is China's government removed this from their history book, CONTROL and CENSOR anything mentioned about this. History will repeat itself because China's government didn't want people to learn from this mistake, so it is bounded to happen again.
Democracy only works in a state with ralatively high economic base and majority people with truely individual integrity, whereas it seems not feasible in China today. Maybe, oneday we can switch to it when we have that foundation, or I guess China can be no difference with chaotic democratic Philipines or India.
@@tomtam8789 so is democracy... the White House has just been stormed by democracy-lover... . you have the greeks, the initiator of democracy, cannot live without slaves...
When asked the question"Will your generation have had a better or worse life than your parents' generation?" 82% of Chinese respondents felt that their generation had a better life than their parents, comparing to 29% in the US. They must suffer from brutal oppression to be so deliriously hyper-optimistic about their future.
Wow another CCCP troll....the difference is that the west was already very developed, still is, its hard to keep a steady rate of economic progress when you are an already highly developed state. Many Chinese at the time didn't even having running water or power;some still don't. So its easy to say "you have it better" than the previous generation. Yes the west has its problems such as high housing cost and lack of higher paying jobs however this is universal even amongst developing countries.
We are not animals or pets that are happy enough with nicer homes and toys and better food. Fundamental things like not being able to decide how many children to have or to have a religion whose tenets must be approved by the state, not being able to express your opposition to communism without being afraid of an arbitrary National Security Law, are so horrible that we in the West are afraid that they will come to where we and our children live.
2:35 Watch this guy inject his own political belief into the idea of democracy by conflating his economic system with the entire principle of democracy. He can say what he wants, it is his free speech to use as he wishes, but he's talking utter shite. Democracy is about state power, but it could also be said that some aspect of democracy is civil liberty. I'm not saying you cannot have democracy without the ability to own property and choose with whom you work, but they definitely correlate.
The average Chinese are not ignorant of the problems in their society. It is ignorant of you to assume outsiders like you can provide a better solution. Democracy is not the goal of governance, it's only a mean, the goal is to create better life for its citizens. On that front, China has done a remarkable job for 30 years since Tiananmen square.
thejeffinvade but the problem is that the party’s legitimacy is based on if they can keep growing the economy. If the economy falls. They basically lost all their legitimacy. Based on the fact that inflate their economic growth, they are on borrowed time. If they stagnate or have a massive recession. The CCP is finished.
The CCCP cannot maintain control forever despite how much they love it. Democracy is the greatest form of governance period.full stop. Democracy is a political system for a well educated and economically prosperous country allowing its citizens to have a more direct say of who is allowed to control their futures. Are you saying Chinese are to stupid to be allowed to help determine their governance?
@@harlequin2614 Democracy doesn't mean your tax dollars will be spend efficiently and effectively. I have lived in Toronto for the past 14 years, it took the city 10 years to add one subway extension. When I went to Beijing this past winter, they are building 20 new subway lines simultaneously and all of them are expected to be finished by 2022. That's on top of 600km existing network. The public consultation period for adding one runway to London Heathrow is 5 years, the Chinese took 4 years to build an brand new airport for Beijing, the world’s largest single-terminal airport. Tax dollars should be spend on the actual subway construction, not on endless studies on how to build one, don't you agree? The current Chinese system is simply better at building infrastructure than any democracies. Ultimately the best government is the one that delivers prosperity, not the one that delivers gender neutral washrooms.
@@harlequin2614 I am saying democracy doesn't necessarily means good governance, just look at Brazil or Iraq. Democracy also leads to populism which gives us Hilter, Brexit and Trump. Ultimately the success or failure of a political system isn't based on how democratic it is, but based on how efficient and effective is it at taxing and spending tax dollars, at how good is it at creating prosperity.
Revolution certainly doesn't bring good governance, nor human rights, only chaos, just look at Libya or Syria or even the French revolution. 30 years on, is today's Russian society more equal 30 years after the collapse of communism? Is average Ukrainians better off today than the Chinese since they got their vote? My point is while Tiananmen massacre is a crime against humanity, but average Chinese citizens are certainly better of after the crackdown if not because of it.
@thejeffinvade "China has done a remarkable job for 30 years" ...not for those they have killed. not for those they are killing. not for those they have imprisoned. not for those they have poisoned. not for those they will be killing tomorrow.
Funny they kept showing the tankman who was clearly out shopping. He was clearly not massacre Maylai massacre in Vietnam was real massacre.while tankman was enjoying his shopping beyond a doubt.
The "Tank Man" was used as evidence for the "massacre", but on June 4 exactly, the only thing that happened on the square is that the students held their hands together, sing "the Internationale", and departed one by one. The ones who wanted to stay were forcefully carried away. Almost, just almost no casualties were there.
Actually, before June 4, even a Taiwanese student claimed that he never saw bodies in the Tiananmen Square. A CBS reporter who was outside the square, also claimed though there were sounds of gunfire, he (or she) see no one falling down.
A few weeks ago I had a heart wrenching conversation with a woman in Beijing. She told me her husband drove an ambulance for Xiehe ( Peking Union Medical College Hospital) during the Tiananmen protests. This was apparently a hospital built by the USA after WW2 in Beijing to help relieve the suffering of the Chinese people in Beijing by offering medical assistance. She went on to tell me that her husband drove a rudimentary ambulance truck for the hospital. On the night in question, June 4th, he was ordered to Tiananmen as there was a report of many injured students. He arrived there and immediately his van was filled with the injured. He was very scared for his life! There were injured everywhere. He said that he spoke to students who told him that when they saw tanks running over people that they took rifles from soldiers and started shooting at the tanks. In retaliation, the People’s Army returned aggression ten fold! The PLA was responsible for the deaths of anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 civilians from Beijing! Their numbers can never be confirmed because their bodies were cremated on site and hosed into the sewer systems around Tiananmen and never received a proper burial! These things are facts that are never admitted to by a government that firmly believes in the “Lie and Deny” philosophy they have developed over 5000 years. Wake up China! The world knows what happened. There were reporters from all over the world in Beijing covering an event going on at the time. They stumbled upon this as their hotels were around Tiananmen! Why are you denying the facts? 400 people (per government reports) were accidentally killed! Absolutely false! The woman I spoke to tells me her husband ( the ambulance driver) , was held in a room for 3 weeks and was cautioned not to say anything about his experience on that day! When she started sobbing during the conversation with me, I was made aware instantly that there was great fear involved in discussing what happened to them all these years after this tragic event! The students were there under the assumption there was a possibility of changing the political system in China for something other than the repressive government that they had. Their appearance there was jovial and they only wanted their opinions to be heard ! Their peaceful celebration of the possibility of a new era and a new way of life were quickly squashed by an old regime based upon greed of the privileged few who followed the philosophy of all their ancient leaders to suppress the masses!
Grey Eminence The demonstration was a peaceful event staged by the university students....there was no collusion from outside forces! Watch the various videos...it was a FESTIVE atmosphere, everyone was participating peacefully with no malice in their hearts! They we’re massacred!
@@truenorthstrongandfree3699 Just look at that propaganda you're writing. Peace, festival, students, heart.. You would think this was a gathering of hippies who were smoking weed on a meadow minding their own business. Instead of a bunch of rebels who were blocking city square for weeks because they wanted to overthrow a good government in order to install evil system that is democracy. You make it sound like doing evil is okay if you do it with a pen instead of a rifle. They were politely told to disperse multiple times and refused to even when they knew the army is coming. This wasn't a massacre. It was spring cleaning.
Grey Eminence Research my friend! They results will set your mind free! The pop,pop sounds you hear are shots being fired at men, women and children! ...are you LISTENING to what the witnesses are saying or are you so brainwashed you can’t even see and hear the truth!
I don't doubt people were killed that night, they're were battles fought all over the place. But I'm sorry, but I don't believe this particular story is credible
无知的学生做了有意义的事，可恶的暴乱分子做了不该做的事，处处妥协的政府做了该做的事。students did something meaningful, hateful rioters did something they shouldn't have done, and compromised governments did what they should have done
1:02 They always talk about...soldiers mowing down civilians with guns n tanks, but no one could show the footage except the view about the tank man. Oh, the tank man didnt get squashed by tank. 3:24 Oh come now, those folks rise up the goddess of liberty cos they dont trust the government. If you trusted the government back then, youd disperse asap after showing condolence for the death of some gov officials. At Title;FT journalist recalls China 30 years ago, that china was a piss poor country and now it could threaten other countries by telling its tourist to not go to that country.
China tried democracy after Qing Dynasty fell apart and it led to the country being split and ruled by local warlords and ultimately led to civil war after WW II. Honestly, I can see this happening again if China tries democracy again.
agree,these leaders who brought this have already been ashes,but someone always like to say this again and again,i think may be it is better to say 5000 yrs ago when 2 tribal leaders sweared never to fight. do you really think that these 6 leaders of 1989 can escape if ccp want to kill them or a tank can be stopped by human's body? well edited film never tell the truth and i think you foreigners cant find the 'truth' where we can hear from,we know the truth,we just dont what to talk.yes i say u americunts,you must feel heart broken because these money are wasted.
@@江澤民-t2d sometimes sacrifices need to be made. Those students were brainwashed with a fake ideology and since they wouldn't stop protesting there was no other choice
@@TDemonHunter I yes. Just like Chinese government is brainwashed with fake ideology. We too will have no other choice but to nuke China. There will be no other choice.
Sad what some reporters would do and lie for pushing their story, ideas and carrier. Facts: there are over 200 documented deaths, protesters, soldiers and bystanders. US meddled in china and financed and supported protesters, just like supporting and financing the HK protests, financing 'school for separatists' Bbc' Separatists and oppositions from all over the world. Many of the protesters in had their visa rdy and also their study place abroad, after some student witnesses reports. Some of them left the country early. The press lied about the place (not TAM) , time and numbers of deaths, many sources were most likely made up, for example the 2600 deaths given by red cross numbers, because they didn't gave any numbers (nyt). Some reporters said they heard gunfire and they concluded soldiers must have shot ppl, student witnesses and soldiers say shots were fired into the air, during a mass panic many were wounded. After witness testimony one was wounded by bullet because it bounced back from somewhere. And Noone died from Tanks. Tankman got taken away by bystanders after a conversation with the Tank driver. Shooting over his head or even killing him by squashing? Really? Many Tanks were destroyed and burned instead. Fight Fakenews, promote fact-based news. Keep an open mind.
Ppl living in China are just fine and obviously better than ever, and of course more freedom . Don’t know what is this journalist’s political agenda here .
The protest was not peaceful, many protesters were armed. If you watch the full tankman video, you can tell they tank driver has no intention of harming the people unlike the cut footage or still frame used in western propaganda to paint a fake picture.
To commemorate the soldiers who were beaten to death and burned to death by the mob, and to celebrate the first successful campaign to break down foreign anti-China forces!
armored car on fire tried to escape from the crowd in the video so called 'three hours documentary' or so on, avoided people hit no one, but stopped by the crowd. Can a armored car driver who willing to kill be stopped by the thugs? 在民運分子或BBC等媒體發布的 諸如“三小時紀錄片”等視頻中 可以看到一輛著火的裝甲車意圖逃出人群 ，左閃右避 ，見到前面有人圍上來 只能停車， 最後被淹沒在人群裡。一台執行殺人命令的裝甲車想要逃生之時，會停下來嗎？會避免撞人嗎？
Atrocities are all bad. Lets not forget atrocities done by 8 nations and more than 20 million chinese died in their hands for 200 years. Lets not forget western countries supported KMT to fight CCP and tens of thousands died too. Lets not forget all of them
My uncle joined the Tiananmen Square protest. He said he did not see the massacre. Look, I support democracy. But I think whether CCP massacred Chinese people is still not confirmed.
@@JonnyBefull I have been living in the west for more than a decade , media have been talking about this massacre for years and years. Look I am not saying that it cant happen. But I doubt it. Cuz I did not see any evidence, not even a single video clip about a solider actual shoot a citizen.
@@JonnyBefull I will actually be very happy and amazed, if you can find a single clip, just a single clip that a soldier shoot a citizen. I mean if its a massacre(genocide), its really not that hard to catch it, right?
So you think all the pictures, all the rush to hospital, all the bloody, all the relatives of the victims and all the Chinese people who fled China all lying?
I am not oppose democracy and not shilling communism or socialism. From my point of view, people even in America (most democratic country I guess) are getting more and more divided and hateful towards one another because each of them think their idiotic views matter. We really should find the middle path which is neither too liberal nor too autocratic. I certainly agreed that we should embrace freedom of speech but to certain extent. Just look at Taiwan, everybody speaks nonsense and sometimes an idiotic elected as President (you know what I mean).
My home country’s government’s attitude towards liberty is concerning, but what’s even scarier is that their propaganda has led to many of the citizens to have that attitude, too😶 在看的中国人们，连你们现在为祖国说好的行为都是犯法，因为大陆没有UA-cam，你们尽然还说我们不需要自由和自由言论🙃 共产党洗脑能力我还真佩服。
students back then were, if anything, bloody naive. Chai Ling is dodgy, cos she made up some stories in an interview. other students leaders were all right. It's shame that the issue is still a senstive topic in China. Both parties did wrong and thought wrong, up to a point.
These student leaders were naive and idealistic, having being raised in cloistered environment of education, and being taught textbook ideals and perfect ideologies. They haven't even stepped out into the real world, get a job, settle down and raise a family, yet they somehow think they know how the best way to govern China already?
@@leelhasa6294 Its actually a Western myth that student protestors actually died on June 3rd and 4th in 1989 that night in Tiananmen Square. The so-called massacre has been thoroughly discredited by the many witnesses there at the time - among them a Spanish TVE television crew, a Reuters correspondent and protesters themselves, who say that nothing happened other than a military unit entering and asking several hundred of those remaining to leave the Square late that night. _Tiananmen Square Massacre is a Myth, All We're 'Remembering' are British Lies by Gregory Clark_ Source: www.ibtimes.co.uk/tiananmen-square-massacre-myth-all-were-remembering-are-british-lies-1451053 In the uploader's video, does it show any student being run over by tanks and getting shot? The Tankman scene even shows the tank halting in front of the man isn't it?
@@Shenzhou. if that's the case why does china hide any mention of 1989 TS? but as we know criminals love to hide history. “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” ― George Orwell, 1984
what were they demonstrating or protesting? it started in nanjing sub sahara african male students would play loud music, drink, parties all night disrespect chinese women etc etc and the people got fed up and it spread to beijing FACT
ONLY 11 DAYS LEFT BEFORE THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY FOR XI TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THE WRONGS PERPETRATED ON JUNE 4TH, 1989 AT TIANANMEN. “We acknowledge our past so we can shape our future” Why isn’t President Xi placing a wreath like he did in Italy last month at a memorial to remember all the students (10,000) who were massacred at Tiananmen and some of who’s bodies never received proper burial and were simply burned on site and hosed into the sewer system?. The civil populace in Hong Kong hold a memorial, why not China who perpetrated the atrocity? Better yet, how about some sort of compensation for the families who lost sons and daughters on June 4th,1989. Why not follow Canada’s example of apologizing and giving $20,000 to the Chinese who were charged a head tax to enter Canada at the beginning of the century when we didn’t know any better at that time how to treat immigrants OR apologizing and giving 13,000 Japanese $21,000 for our mistake of interning them during the war, much like whats going on in Xinjiang today with the Uyghur people. You can learn by your mistakes and become better people as opposed to hiding the truth as you feel you will loose face! “Loosing Face” is the lamest excuse for not taking responsibility for your actions and its a feeling widespread in China! ua-cam.com/video/kMKvxJ-Js3Aq/v-deo.html
I just want to ask you, where’s the evidence of mass killing? You keep saying it’s massacre, but it really is a student movement towards democracy. Just like similar ones in America about race and Vietnam war. But did you see any attack on US ruling party about those issues?
Compare western media and chinese media，think about both side. Freedom democracy vs common wealth of people. Everyone has different opinion...Just try to think without bias...
@@xr9381 You do know, yet you accept it, despite the fact your gov never ever apologized for it. Just as a few Chinese exchange students I've met who defended the necessarily of Tiananmen Massacre. I would like to say you would have thought elsewise if your family of good Communists got persecuted also. Don't you think how weird it is when people _know_ it yet govt keeps censoring it?
Chinese police officers were too gentle, they should have learned from American police that using night stick and pepper spray like in occupy wall street clean up.
@@leelhasa6294 I didn't say the event is fake, I did say the news you got from your propaganda system is fake. If you believe you still can get any real news from that, just keep going. For the camera records, sure, lots of them, they just showed you what they want you to know.
Yep, another round of 6:4 bashing. Back in 2008 Wikileaks report showed that American Government known all along there is NO mascara during the 6:4 evacuation. But of course that never get any air time by the main stream media. I urge everyone take a closer at all the cut up footages. The so call 6:4 mascara supposed to happen during the early morning on 6:4 and in Beijing that is very dark before 7am so all the footage shown during daylight was taken on the 6:3 morning which there has been clash between student and soldiers and there has been casualties but you don’t see any footage actually on the 6:4 morning when it is all dark with solder shooting. But media will use any footage to make up these story. This story is very close to my heart due to personal reason. But the more I investigated into this the more I realised how this has been twisted for western political purpose. wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
Thus the question; If china is successful now, relatively speaking, then then surely those protesters...and their present day supporters are in the wrong, arent they?
ONLY 10 DAYS LEFT BEFORE THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY FOR XI TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THE WRONGS PERPETRATED ON JUNE 4TH, 1989 AT TIANANMEN. “We acknowledge our past so we can shape our future” Why isn’t President Xi placing a wreath like he did in Italy last month at a memorial to remember all the students (10,000) who were massacred at Tiananmen and some of who’s bodies never received proper burial and were simply burned on site and hosed into the sewer system?. The civil populace in Hong Kong hold a memorial, why not China who perpetrated the atrocity? Better yet, how about some sort of compensation for the families who lost sons and daughters on June 4th,1989. Why not follow Canada’s example of apologizing and giving $20,000 to the Chinese who were charged a head tax to enter Canada at the beginning of the century when we didn’t know any better at that time how to treat immigrants OR apologizing and giving 13,000 Japanese $21,000 for our mistake of interning them during the war, much like whats going on in Xinjiang today with the Uyghur people. You can learn by your mistakes and become better people as opposed to hiding the truth as you feel you will loose face! “Loosing Face” is the lamest excuse for not taking responsibility for your actions and its a feeling widespread in China! ua-cam.com/video/kMKvxJ-Js3A/v-deo.html
LOL, why should the government pay money to rioters? You think democracy is best ideological system is that it? Look at the world's largest democracy and the number of riots they have. They'll go bankrupt if they have to pay compensation money to every rioter. Source: _List of riots in India_ wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots_in_India It is fortunate China did not adopt democracy like them isn't it?
30 years of Amnesia. RIP for those who have died. Justice for Tiananmen Victims!! #neverbeforgotten
Every empire will taste defeat. It may not be soon but later on. Nothing lasts forever, Dear Oppressors of the world
@Teh Chuan China will overtake it very soon. 開心嗎～
agree, USA ·····
@@gokublacksavage1161 Like the way you freed Nagasaki?
@@thejeffinvade Are you kidding? The Chinese of all people should know the Japanese earned the A bomb. Nanjing massacre caused by Japanese for instance was a stain on human history that can never be forgotten! it was regrettable but unavoidable....
When the United Snakes are gone,the world can begin to live i peace.
A very good insightful and truthful report of the massacre! As a survivor, I approve it!
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Thank you. Great content. Never forget with respect.
Chinese 50Cent army down voting and commenting heavily.. what a shame.. People are so much oppressed there.. I have a Chinese friend who told me..
@Teh Chuanalso i know a Chinese communist enjoying UA-cam a product of democracy..go back to your communist tube in your country
The Chuan: Thanks for participating, Wu Mao.
"50cent army down voting and commenting heavily? "
Where? I only see a few compared to the mass libtards commenting "50cents army".
Attention seeker 🤗
Only Chinese PLA the people army tank can stop in front of a normal people!!USA or so called demoncrazy tank will shoot the demonstrators and move forward roll over the "enemy"...We have see this in many countries crack downs...
I am very proud of the PLA and China!
@@pekingman3034 you should be really proud of MAO ZEDONG the Chinese communist leader who has the highest number of murders in the world higher than STALIN and Hitler combine the victims where its own people
Brave youths! Wish there're more comments here to commemorate them. Keeping their bravery alive.
Gee, I wonder where those 66 downvotes came from.
Not from China because this is beyond censored there, prob Russians
As a Chinese grown in mainland, we have more understanding about the protest, I appreciate their efforts for democracy,but it was also naive and ignorant protest in 1980s triggered by CIA and Western proganda.it disturbed China's way for development
from those who work for the Chinese government.
@@jackytang3683 Don't blame US for all you're problems
from here ua-cam.com/video/QMzMHJ3nXKo/v-deo.html
So for 30 years, June 4th of each year is your working day, right? The Arab Spring, the Czech 77 Charter and a series of manipulations in Latin America. Failed in China, is it sad for you? Rolling aside
What sad is the fact that the Chinese army massacred his own people, didn't let the parents mourn and didn't take responsibility.
The first intentions of the protests was for fighting against corruption and errors in economic policies, they used to ask for government transparency and ending corruption. But then, the so-called "pro-democratic" forces got involved soon after, and the protests emerged into a demand for the uplift of the existing regime and abolishment of the socialist system. This of course was a threat to the Chinese government.
It is true that there were people gunned down, injured or dead. However, first, this happened around the square, not in it. Second, the government admitted in their report that the soldiers killed only a few protesters and accidentally wounded the onlookers. Last, you may think it is too far that the soldiers killed the students, but nobody said it was too far that the protesters burned military vehicles or attack and even attempt to murder the soldiers, not happening to gun them down in the first place.
Conlcusion: the Tiananmen Square Events could have been a real democratic movement, but as "pro-democratic forces" got involved, it actually turned into a Chinese version of the Arab Spring or the Eastern Europe in 1989. There were students killed, but more soldiers and police died because of the conflicts and *riots (see the Wikipedia preface of "1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre")* around the square.
I keep praying that all Communists regime, whether they are in China, Vietnam, Cuba or North Korea, will all fall one day to at last liberate billions of people from their sufferings.
Oh sweet summer child. Anyone who's wiser will know that these countries will simply evolve into corrupt shitholes like what's happened with Central America, Mexico, Brazil, post-1991 Russia and India, trading a series of hardship with another. There is no light in the end of the tunnel either way.
@@vinesauceobscurities Are you're American CCP/T-Series Supporter?
I pray demoncrazy fall making me not state controlled anymore.
I don't think you can call China, Cuba and Vietnam communist countries today well North Korea maybe their government refuses to change but you can argue that NK after the 1994 isn't a communist country its more of a Dynasty that only cares about keeping power within the ruling family
I watched all these clips, all I could count r just 2,3 injured or immobile ppl, never more than a few. There were clashes. True. But no massacre.
Ok I read through some of the comments. There are people critisising ccp and there are people defending it. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who's right or wrong as history is already written and nothing can change it. What's important is that our people must realise that we cannot afford another riot, or massacre, or whatever you call. Because it just doesn't solve any problems but only create more.
The problem is China's government removed this from their history book, CONTROL and CENSOR anything mentioned about this.
History will repeat itself because China's government didn't want people to learn from this mistake, so it is bounded to happen again.
@CuongNguyen-le5ic It's literally on the CN government's own website dumbass.
Democracy only works in a state with ralatively high economic base and majority people with truely individual integrity, whereas it seems not feasible in China today.
Maybe, oneday we can switch to it when we have that foundation, or I guess China can be no difference with chaotic democratic Philipines or India.
And yet the killing of innocent students and later on preventing their parents of mourning publicly isn't justified, it's evil!
And authoritarianism has a good track record? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot.. there is no safeguard against them in your system
@@tomtam8789 so is democracy... the White House has just been stormed by democracy-lover...
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you have the greeks, the initiator of democracy, cannot live without slaves...
@@tomtam8789 singapore
@@vivelarevolution2835 Singapore isn't even authoritarianism lmao, they allowed freedom of speech, freedom of press etc lmao
Tell the Commies that like the Straks....We never forget.......nor will be forgive!
This scene will be repeated in 2047.
You’re about 26 years too late
Right title : *Nothing happen in Tiananmen Square in 1989👌👌👌*
Shocking pictures!
Have you seen MK Ultra?
gfchhgrd gddchytfghh - that’s normal for communist countries...look at vietnam, n korea and china.
When asked the question"Will your generation have had a better or worse life than your parents' generation?" 82% of Chinese respondents felt that their generation had a better life than their parents, comparing to 29% in the US. They must suffer from brutal oppression to be so deliriously hyper-optimistic about their future.
Wow another CCCP troll....the difference is that the west was already very developed, still is, its hard to keep a steady rate of economic progress when you are an already highly developed state. Many Chinese at the time didn't even having running water or power;some still don't. So its easy to say "you have it better" than the previous generation. Yes the west has its problems such as high housing cost and lack of higher paying jobs however this is universal even amongst developing countries.
@@harlequin2614 "Already very developed". Yep, and now it's going backwards, see western Europe.
We are not animals or pets that are happy enough with nicer homes and toys and better food. Fundamental things like not being able to decide how many children to have or to have a religion whose tenets must be approved by the state, not being able to express your opposition to communism without being afraid of an arbitrary National Security Law, are so horrible that we in the West are afraid that they will come to where we and our children live.
2:35 Watch this guy inject his own political belief into the idea of democracy by conflating his economic system with the entire principle of democracy. He can say what he wants, it is his free speech to use as he wishes, but he's talking utter shite. Democracy is about state power, but it could also be said that some aspect of democracy is civil liberty. I'm not saying you cannot have democracy without the ability to own property and choose with whom you work, but they definitely correlate.
The average Chinese are not ignorant of the problems in their society. It is ignorant of you to assume outsiders like you can provide a better solution. Democracy is not the goal of governance, it's only a mean, the goal is to create better life for its citizens. On that front, China has done a remarkable job for 30 years since Tiananmen square.
thejeffinvade but the problem is that the party’s legitimacy is based on if they can keep growing the economy. If the economy falls. They basically lost all their legitimacy. Based on the fact that inflate their economic growth, they are on borrowed time. If they stagnate or have a massive recession. The CCP is finished.
The CCCP cannot maintain control forever despite how much they love it. Democracy is the greatest form of governance period.full stop. Democracy is a political system for a well educated and economically prosperous country allowing its citizens to have a more direct say of who is allowed to control their futures. Are you saying Chinese are to stupid to be allowed to help determine their governance?
@@harlequin2614 Democracy doesn't mean your tax dollars will be spend efficiently and effectively. I have lived in Toronto for the past 14 years, it took the city 10 years to add one subway extension. When I went to Beijing this past winter, they are building 20 new subway lines simultaneously and all of them are expected to be finished by 2022. That's on top of 600km existing network. The public consultation period for adding one runway to London Heathrow is 5 years, the Chinese took 4 years to build an brand new airport for Beijing, the world’s largest single-terminal airport. Tax dollars should be spend on the actual subway construction, not on endless studies on how to build one, don't you agree? The current Chinese system is simply better at building infrastructure than any democracies. Ultimately the best government is the one that delivers prosperity, not the one that delivers gender neutral washrooms.
@@harlequin2614 I am saying democracy doesn't necessarily means good governance, just look at Brazil or Iraq. Democracy also leads to populism which gives us Hilter, Brexit and Trump. Ultimately the success or failure of a political system isn't based on how democratic it is, but based on how efficient and effective is it at taxing and spending tax dollars, at how good is it at creating prosperity.
Revolution certainly doesn't bring good governance, nor human rights, only chaos, just look at Libya or Syria or even the French revolution. 30 years on, is today's Russian society more equal 30 years after the collapse of communism? Is average Ukrainians better off today than the Chinese since they got their vote? My point is while Tiananmen massacre is a crime against humanity, but average Chinese citizens are certainly better of after the crackdown if not because of it.
@thejeffinvade "China has done a remarkable job for 30 years" ...not for those they have killed. not for those they are killing. not for those they have imprisoned. not for those they have poisoned. not for those they will be killing tomorrow.
Funny they kept showing the tankman who was clearly out shopping. He was clearly not massacre
Maylai massacre in Vietnam was real massacre.while tankman was enjoying his shopping beyond a doubt.
The "Tank Man" was used as evidence for the "massacre", but on June 4 exactly, the only thing that happened on the square is that the students held their hands together, sing "the Internationale", and departed one by one. The ones who wanted to stay were forcefully carried away. Almost, just almost no casualties were there.
Actually, before June 4, even a Taiwanese student claimed that he never saw bodies in the Tiananmen Square. A CBS reporter who was outside the square, also claimed though there were sounds of gunfire, he (or she) see no one falling down.
A few weeks ago I had a heart wrenching conversation with a woman in Beijing. She told me her husband drove an ambulance for Xiehe ( Peking Union Medical College Hospital) during the Tiananmen protests. This was apparently a hospital built by the USA after WW2 in Beijing to help relieve the suffering of the Chinese people in Beijing by offering medical assistance. She went on to tell me that her husband drove a rudimentary ambulance truck for the hospital. On the night in question, June 4th, he was ordered to Tiananmen as there was a report of many injured students. He arrived there and immediately his van was filled with the injured. He was very scared for his life! There were injured everywhere. He said that he spoke to students who told him that when they saw tanks running over people that they took rifles from soldiers and started shooting at the tanks. In retaliation, the People’s Army returned aggression ten fold! The PLA was responsible for the deaths of anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 civilians from Beijing! Their numbers can never be confirmed because their bodies were cremated on site and hosed into the sewer systems around Tiananmen and never received a proper burial! These things are facts that are never admitted to by a government that firmly believes in the “Lie and Deny” philosophy they have developed over 5000 years. Wake up China! The world knows what happened. There were reporters from all over the world in Beijing covering an event going on at the time. They stumbled upon this as their hotels were around Tiananmen! Why are you denying the facts? 400 people (per government reports) were accidentally killed! Absolutely false! The woman I spoke to tells me her husband ( the ambulance driver) , was held in a room for 3 weeks and was cautioned not to say anything about his experience on that day! When she started sobbing during the conversation with me, I was made aware instantly that there was great fear involved in discussing what happened to them all these years after this tragic event! The students were there under the assumption there was a possibility of changing the political system in China for something other than the repressive government that they had. Their appearance there was jovial and they only wanted their opinions to be heard ! Their peaceful celebration of the possibility of a new era and a new way of life were quickly squashed by an old regime based upon greed of the privileged few who followed the philosophy of all their ancient leaders to suppress the masses!
Grey Eminence Can’t you read? They took up rifles AFTER they saw students being run over by tanks! AFTER!.....
Grey Eminence The demonstration was a peaceful event staged by the university students....there was no collusion from outside forces! Watch the various videos...it was a FESTIVE atmosphere, everyone was participating peacefully with no malice in their hearts! They we’re massacred!
@@truenorthstrongandfree3699 Just look at that propaganda you're writing. Peace, festival, students, heart.. You would think this was a gathering of hippies who were smoking weed on a meadow minding their own business. Instead of a bunch of rebels who were blocking city square for weeks because they wanted to overthrow a good government in order to install evil system that is democracy. You make it sound like doing evil is okay if you do it with a pen instead of a rifle. They were politely told to disperse multiple times and refused to even when they knew the army is coming. This wasn't a massacre. It was spring cleaning.
Grey Eminence Research my friend! They results will set your mind free! The pop,pop sounds you hear are shots being fired at men, women and children! ...are you LISTENING to what the witnesses are saying or are you so brainwashed you can’t even see and hear the truth!
I don't doubt people were killed that night, they're were battles fought all over the place. But I'm sorry, but I don't believe this particular story is credible
Libyans once wanted democracy and they got it. I guess they are enjoying life now!!!!!
无知的学生做了有意义的事，可恶的暴乱分子做了不该做的事，处处妥协的政府做了该做的事。students did something meaningful, hateful rioters did something they shouldn't have done, and compromised governments did what they should have done
怂比学生代表 一个个跑的比谁都快
An Ping 得亏当年他们完蛋了！怂逼
1:02 They always talk about...soldiers mowing down civilians with guns n tanks, but no one could show the footage except the view about the tank man.
Oh, the tank man didnt get squashed by tank.
3:24 Oh come now, those folks rise up the goddess of liberty cos they dont trust the government. If you trusted the government back then, youd disperse asap after showing condolence for the death of some gov officials.
At Title;FT journalist recalls China 30 years ago, that china was a piss poor country and now it could threaten other countries by telling its tourist to not go to that country.
@George Job
Communism was bad. Still is bad. China isnt a communist tho, at least not 100% communist.
why do you see those masses of crowds running for their lives? cause they're escaping gunfire you twat?
@@DanielSmith-vd8tp or being rushed by baton-wielding cops. Twat.
China tried democracy after Qing Dynasty fell apart and it led to the country being split and ruled by local warlords and ultimately led to civil war after WW II. Honestly, I can see this happening again if China tries democracy again.
This will happen again both in China and in other places .......
again and again, can you say something new. quite dissapointed
agree,these leaders who brought this have already been ashes,but someone always like to say this again and again,i think may be it is better to say 5000 yrs ago when 2 tribal leaders sweared never to fight.
do you really think that these 6 leaders of 1989 can escape if ccp want to kill them or a tank can be stopped by human's body? well edited film never tell the truth and i think you foreigners cant find the 'truth' where we can hear from,we know the truth,we just dont what to talk.yes i say u americunts,you must feel heart broken because these money are wasted.
again and again, can the CCP solve the problem or just admit their error?
@@江澤民-t2d sometimes sacrifices need to be made. Those students were brainwashed with a fake ideology and since they wouldn't stop protesting there was no other choice
@@TDemonHunter I yes. Just like Chinese government is brainwashed with fake ideology. We too will have no other choice but to nuke China. There will be no other choice.
That’s interesting. It looks much better than the conflict in 1970s USA anti-war protest. We should celebrate that too.
Interesting a reporter mentioned that when he was in Tiananmen in 1989
Too few people died that day. Party was pretty nice to keep the death toll to a minimum.
Really?
中国的很多政治问题不是中国共产党的错，不是资本主义的错，也不是社会主义的错，而是2000多年的封建农业社会惯性，根深蒂固，难以完全拔出，封建残余思想观念和制度至今贻害中国。这只能用工业化和城市化来解决。我们正在工业化和城市化的进行时，处于农业社会向工业社会转变的过渡时期。社会转型期，政治体制肯定也在不断改革以适应经济社会发展需要。
絕對是中國共產黨的錯。如果你的邏輯是成立的話，為何中國人的固有DNA沒有阻止台灣在國民黨白色恐怖極權中走出民主？
@@vasilileung2204 1987年中华民国实控地区人均GDP5330美元，世界人均GDP3810美元。中华人民共和国实控地区至今人均GDP还没超过世界平均水平，经济社会发展水平是比较落后的。民主自由人权这些好听的词汇都需要良好的经济基础才能更好的实现和落实。
Lake Vapour 所以還是共產黨的錯啊
说得好
@@vasilileung2204 台湾已经乱象丛生。不久将自食恶果。
The truth.
Extraordinary crime must be investigated !.
Sad what some reporters would do and lie for pushing their story, ideas and carrier. Facts: there are over 200 documented deaths, protesters, soldiers and bystanders. US meddled in china and financed and supported protesters, just like supporting and financing the HK protests, financing 'school for separatists' Bbc' Separatists and oppositions from all over the world. Many of the protesters in had their visa rdy and also their study place abroad, after some student witnesses reports. Some of them left the country early. The press lied about the place (not TAM) , time and numbers of deaths, many sources were most likely made up, for example the 2600 deaths given by red cross numbers, because they didn't gave any numbers (nyt). Some reporters said they heard gunfire and they concluded soldiers must have shot ppl, student witnesses and soldiers say shots were fired into the air, during a mass panic many were wounded. After witness testimony one was wounded by bullet because it bounced back from somewhere. And Noone died from Tanks. Tankman got taken away by bystanders after a conversation with the Tank driver. Shooting over his head or even killing him by squashing? Really? Many Tanks were destroyed and burned instead. Fight Fakenews, promote fact-based news. Keep an open mind.
Beijing troll stfu
Ppl living in China are just fine and obviously better than ever, and of course more freedom . Don’t know what is this journalist’s political agenda here .
@emerald christensen: funny name for a 50 cent troll.
If u little head can spin fast enough u would come out sth a little more meaningful lol
Very funny to see this comment when looking what happen in China now
remember of Detroit mascaras in 1967 is a reminder of how brutal a so-called "democracy" government can be
Democracy also is dangerous...
The protest was not peaceful, many protesters were armed. If you watch the full tankman video, you can tell they tank driver has no intention of harming the people unlike the cut footage or still frame used in western propaganda to paint a fake picture.
what happened to the tankman? 01:13
Liquidated
Nothing happened to him,the tank stopped and turned away
m.ua-cam.com/video/qq8zFLIftGk/v-deo.html full footage of the tank man . Tank driver are more polite than most of car drivers
Nothing. He's still alive 🤣
Former Chinese President Jiang Zemin said he was never arrested for that and he wasn't sure where he was
*"I t ' S n O t R e A l C o M m U n I s M"*
Read my many letters to editor in FT.
To commemorate the soldiers who were beaten to death and burned to death by the mob, and to celebrate the first successful campaign to break down foreign anti-China forces!
你好小粉红.给你五毛.
油管 你别推送给我这些垃圾了，从BBC开始
我都点了对这样的不感兴趣，我的主页就没少过64
armored car on fire tried to escape from the crowd in the video so called 'three hours documentary' or so on, avoided people hit no one, but stopped by the crowd. Can a armored car driver who willing to kill be stopped by the thugs? 在民運分子或BBC等媒體發布的 諸如“三小時紀錄片”等視頻中 可以看到一輛著火的裝甲車意圖逃出人群 ，左閃右避 ，見到前面有人圍上來 只能停車， 最後被淹沒在人群裡。一台執行殺人命令的裝甲車想要逃生之時，會停下來嗎？會避免撞人嗎？
Atrocities are all bad. Lets not forget atrocities done by 8 nations and more than 20 million chinese died in their hands for 200 years. Lets not forget western countries supported KMT to fight CCP and tens of thousands died too. Lets not forget all of them
Whataboutism. Mao killed more Chinese than any foreigners.
My uncle joined the Tiananmen Square protest. He said he did not see the massacre. Look, I support democracy. But I think whether CCP massacred Chinese people is still not confirmed.
There are literally video clips of people being shot and hospitals full of casualties. Go back to Russia with your fake news.
@@JonnyBefull Can I see it?? I mean a actual soldier shot someone. Dont just talk trash, your talk is cheap
@@JonnyBefull I have been living in the west for more than a decade , media have been talking about this massacre for years and years. Look I am not saying that it cant happen. But I doubt it. Cuz I did not see any evidence, not even a single video clip about a solider actual shoot a citizen.
@@JonnyBefull I will actually be very happy and amazed, if you can find a single clip, just a single clip that a soldier shoot a citizen. I mean if its a massacre(genocide), its really not that hard to catch it, right?
So you think all the pictures, all the rush to hospital, all the bloody, all the relatives of the victims and all the Chinese people who fled China all lying?
I am not oppose democracy and not shilling communism or socialism. From my point of view, people even in America (most democratic country I guess) are getting more and more divided and hateful towards one another because each of them think their idiotic views matter. We really should find the middle path which is neither too liberal nor too autocratic. I certainly agreed that we should embrace freedom of speech but to certain extent. Just look at Taiwan, everybody speaks nonsense and sometimes an idiotic elected as President (you know what I mean).
My home country’s government’s attitude towards liberty is concerning, but what’s even scarier is that their propaganda has led to many of the citizens to have that attitude, too😶
在看的中国人们，连你们现在为祖国说好的行为都是犯法，因为大陆没有UA-cam，你们尽然还说我们不需要自由和自由言论🙃
共产党洗脑能力我还真佩服。
A story when the student leaders can't answer to CPC leaders what democracy is. lol
students back then were, if anything, bloody naive. Chai Ling is dodgy, cos she made up some stories in an interview. other students leaders were all right. It's shame that the issue is still a senstive topic in China. Both parties did wrong and thought wrong, up to a point.
These student leaders were naive and idealistic, having being raised in cloistered environment of education, and being taught textbook ideals and perfect ideologies. They haven't even stepped out into the real world, get a job, settle down and raise a family, yet they somehow think they know how the best way to govern China already?
@@Shenzhou. even if true what excuse is that for a government to go in a shoot and run tanks over its own people?
@@leelhasa6294 Its actually a Western myth that student protestors actually died on June 3rd and 4th in 1989 that night in Tiananmen Square. The so-called massacre has been thoroughly discredited by the many witnesses there at the time - among them a Spanish TVE television crew, a Reuters correspondent and protesters themselves, who say that nothing happened other than a military unit entering and asking several hundred of those remaining to leave the Square late that night.
_Tiananmen Square Massacre is a Myth, All We're 'Remembering' are British Lies by Gregory Clark_ Source: www.ibtimes.co.uk/tiananmen-square-massacre-myth-all-were-remembering-are-british-lies-1451053
In the uploader's video, does it show any student being run over by tanks and getting shot? The Tankman scene even shows the tank halting in front of the man isn't it?
@@Shenzhou. if that's the case why does china hide any mention of 1989 TS? but as we know criminals love to hide history. “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
― George Orwell, 1984
Michael Flynn endorsing Myanmar style coup in America.
This type of unrest happening soon in America . May god bless you.
Freedom for china ✋
what were they demonstrating or protesting?
it started in nanjing
sub sahara african male students would play loud music, drink, parties all night
disrespect chinese women etc etc and the people got fed up and it spread to beijing
FACT
Ahhh so thats why the Chinese goverment murdered thousands of Chinese running them over with tanks, seems logic.....
@@Tearstank don't waste time arguing with me
. Use that time to do own research
Google is your friend
Elizabeth Palmer, You are brave and great !
ONLY 11 DAYS LEFT BEFORE THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY FOR XI TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THE WRONGS PERPETRATED ON JUNE 4TH, 1989 AT TIANANMEN.
“We acknowledge our past so we can shape our future”
Why isn’t President Xi placing a wreath like he did in Italy last month at a memorial to remember all the students (10,000) who were massacred at Tiananmen and some of who’s bodies never received proper burial and were simply burned on site and hosed into the sewer system?. The civil populace in Hong Kong hold a memorial, why not China who perpetrated the atrocity? Better yet, how about some sort of compensation for the families who lost sons and daughters on June 4th,1989. Why not follow Canada’s example of apologizing and giving $20,000 to the Chinese who were charged a head tax to enter Canada at the beginning of the century when we didn’t know any better at that time how to treat immigrants OR apologizing and giving 13,000 Japanese $21,000 for our mistake of interning them during the war, much like whats going on in Xinjiang today with the Uyghur people. You can learn by your mistakes and become better people as opposed to hiding the truth as you feel you will loose face! “Loosing Face” is the lamest excuse for not taking responsibility for your actions and its a feeling widespread in China! ua-cam.com/video/kMKvxJ-Js3Aq/v-deo.html
www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2156285/sir-alan-donald-british-ambassador-beijing-during
I just want to ask you, where’s the evidence of mass killing? You keep saying it’s massacre, but it really is a student movement towards democracy. Just like similar ones in America about race and Vietnam war. But did you see any attack on US ruling party about those issues?
Good
The Pacific think tank has completely unveiled the real veil: Agent performer！
Compare western media and chinese media，think about both side. Freedom democracy vs common wealth of people. Everyone has different opinion...Just try to think without bias...
Flexibility of mind is good but let's not be to stubborn about that. ua-cam.com/video/2mQ8plzWl9g/v-deo.html
There is just one truth here
People died on Tiananmen *and its surrounding* and Chinese gov is still denying it.
Jedi solo That’s what u see in media, in facts we do know
@@xr9381 You do know, yet you accept it, despite the fact your gov never ever apologized for it. Just as a few Chinese exchange students I've met who defended the necessarily of Tiananmen Massacre. I would like to say you would have thought elsewise if your family of good Communists got persecuted also. Don't you think how weird it is when people _know_ it yet govt keeps censoring it?
Chinese police officers were too gentle, they should have learned from American police that using night stick and pepper spray like in occupy wall street clean up.
SAD
You still believe the fake new you made 30 years before? That's great.
Which part do you think is fake?
fake news? its all been recorded on camera, you can't throw "fake news" at this one baby
@@leelhasa6294 I didn't say the event is fake, I did say the news you got from your propaganda system is fake. If you believe you still can get any real news from that, just keep going.
For the camera records, sure, lots of them, they just showed you what they want you to know.
cool
民主看得见摸不着，就是鸡肋，人民幸福平安就好。
豬也是這麼想的
洗脑彻底成功的效果^
@@jamesroc7435 你看到的民主是选举，政治选举就像选秀，谁包装的漂亮就选谁，治国能力其次。我看到的民主是台湾的奇葩政府。
@@Energysunn2215 难道民主不是一种洗脑方式吗，让你相信你是自由的，其实你一直被资本和政治人物操控。
Xin 咱们心里明白就好，我都没想到出来有这么多沙雕
FAKE
haha
UA-cam is here to tell the truth
Yep, another round of 6:4 bashing. Back in 2008 Wikileaks report showed that American Government known all along there is NO mascara during the 6:4 evacuation. But of course that never get any air time by the main stream media.
I urge everyone take a closer at all the cut up footages. The so call 6:4 mascara supposed to happen during the early morning on 6:4 and in Beijing that is very dark before 7am so all the footage shown during daylight was taken on the 6:3 morning which there has been clash between student and soldiers and there has been casualties but you don’t see any footage actually on the 6:4 morning when it is all dark with solder shooting. But media will use any footage to make up these story. This story is very close to my heart due to personal reason. But the more I investigated into this the more I realised how this has been twisted for western political purpose.
wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
来点新鲜的行不？
bruh this is to remember and commemorate the victims from 30 years ago, not a McDonalds menu
@@simonxiao876You mean to remember and commemorate the soldiers beaten to death or fired to death by those mobs?
@@johnnylee4637 ikr, USA gvmt really twisted this history
johnny lee no to remember those who died
30 years later, China is becoming better and better.
Thus the question;
If china is successful now, relatively speaking, then then surely those protesters...and their present day supporters are in the wrong, arent they?
炒作。
You should be showing about Myanmar 🇲🇲 2021 instead a waste of time on 1989🤣🤣🤣
This was uploaded 2 years ago you idiot.
I will remember Tiananmen Square RIOT! Shame on you！
Communist very evil about nazist not very evil
美國不存在這個地球。世界就和平了!
你是指美国的制度不好？
你们倒是换点人采访啊，那些被养在zoo里的印第安人你们怎么不去问问。
Fake news.
Clinton Foundation allies
1101
Vase
Can you show us the footages about massacres beside just repeat the same interviews with all these 'Chinese Amercouts'?
ONLY 10 DAYS LEFT BEFORE THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY FOR XI TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THE WRONGS PERPETRATED ON JUNE 4TH, 1989 AT TIANANMEN.
“We acknowledge our past so we can shape our future”
Why isn’t President Xi placing a wreath like he did in Italy last month at a memorial to remember all the students (10,000) who were massacred at Tiananmen and some of who’s bodies never received proper burial and were simply burned on site and hosed into the sewer system?. The civil populace in Hong Kong hold a memorial, why not China who perpetrated the atrocity? Better yet, how about some sort of compensation for the families who lost sons and daughters on June 4th,1989. Why not follow Canada’s example of apologizing and giving $20,000 to the Chinese who were charged a head tax to enter Canada at the beginning of the century when we didn’t know any better at that time how to treat immigrants OR apologizing and giving 13,000 Japanese $21,000 for our mistake of interning them during the war, much like whats going on in Xinjiang today with the Uyghur people. You can learn by your mistakes and become better people as opposed to hiding the truth as you feel you will loose face! “Loosing Face” is the lamest excuse for not taking responsibility for your actions and its a feeling widespread in China! ua-cam.com/video/kMKvxJ-Js3A/v-deo.html
LOL, why should the government pay money to rioters? You think democracy is best ideological system is that it? Look at the world's largest democracy and the number of riots they have. They'll go bankrupt if they have to pay compensation money to every rioter.
Source: _List of riots in India_ wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots_in_India
It is fortunate China did not adopt democracy like them isn't it?
Alex Mercer “We acknowledge our past so we can shape our future”