Gut Feeling? Has the Boat Gone Quiet? | The West Wing
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- “You violated international law.”
Season 3 Episode 7: Gone Quiet
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Hal Holbrook played the Captain of The Pueblo in a TV movie in the 70s. "I was there" line was perfect.
I've never heard of that movie nor the incident. Then again in 1973 I was 7. My folks were older (1922/1928 basically a surprise adoption being my dad was over 40 when I was born) so I know Hal Holbrook but if that movie was on tv I was too young to know. Thank you for that information.
You cut off the greatest part of this episode.
Bartlet; "Where's the damn submarine Nancy? I don't want to hear I don't know I want to hear how many people you got swimming around looking for it"
Nancy: "See and I thought you were going to panic sir"
Tell em what? "You've got Cassus Belli?"
For some reason this is one of my fav lines in the series
“It’s a little thing called Latin.” 😉
Later on, Albie is giving them more details about submarines but they stop because Bartlet starts banging his head on the desk “Oh my god, am I still here?”
"Settle down". Two words, delivered with perfection. And a little bit more Latin.
"Lake George" lol
i rollllled
Notice how often the President adds these little requests when asking Charlie for something? "A copy of the Constitution order of succession." "A gun to kill people with" was another one.
"And a copy of the Constitutional Order of Succession" - Albie's not on it.
Nancy McNally needed a bigger role on this show. Anna Deavere Smith played her so well!!
The situation room is by nature a place where you mostly only get bad news
Later on Albie makes the President bang his own head on his own desk, if anyone who hasn't seen this is watching and is wondering if it gets better for Bartlet....
The line about the constitutional line of succession, ALWAYS KILLS ME!
Experience can be intimidating ☺️
Enjoyable character, ludicrous dialogue & scene.
How about the scene where Josh has his breakthrough in therapy.
Please please please upload the NEA discussions with Tawny from this episode. “You funded his performance piece recently, which involved him destroying all his belongings outside a Starbucks in Haight-Ashbury.” “I’ve done that a couple of times…I didn’t know there was funding available.”
“Here’s a woman who gets naked, covers herself completely in chocolate, and sings. Does that appeal to you?” “By and large, I’m not wild about musicals.”
Too-tall McCall. Bartlett hung with her when she was Press Secretary and he was Chief of Staff
Here’s a conversation between a smart but grumpy man who’s well versed in history, opinionated and frequently spouts Latin and another smart but grumpy man who’s well versed in history, opinionated and frequently spouts Latin.
Lake George hahahaha
Crackling dialogue sorely missing from the post-Sorkin era
Yes!
And brilliant ensemble acting!
Leo asking "We don't talk to the North Koreans?" actually requires suspension of disbelief for me to take the rest seriously since it's the impetus for the whole conversation. The idea that he wouldn't know that - considering everything he does know - is kind of absurd.
I'm sure Albie is also in the Spielberg Lincoln movie.
Yeah he played Francis Preston Blair…a figure that film portrays MUCH too kindly but that’s neither here nor there. Good movie tho
Bartlett could never stand not being the most knowledgeable in the room.
Leo should have known better than playing around with Nancy. Don’t think she has a non-serious line in the whole show.
I raise you ‘Admiral Sissypants’
"Admiral Sissy Mary"
I was going to mention this and thought of the whole back and forth with him!
Isn't "Gone Quiet" the name of episode 6 in Season 3? I have "The Indians in the Lobby" listed as episode 7.
Episode 6 is titled "War Crimes". "Indians in the Lobby" is 8. Episodes 2 and 3 were both named Manchester - Manchester Part 1 (episode 2) and Manchester part 2 (episode 3). Maybe that threw off the list?
@@bridyyc "Gone Quiet" is Episode 6, and "Indians In The Lobby" is Episode 7, unless Wikipedia has it wrong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_West_Wing_season_3
@@bridyyc I think what threw off the list is that some sites and streaming services have Isaac and Ishmael listed as Episode 1 of Season 3, while others have it not listed as part of the regular continuity of Season 3 because it is not considered part of the show's canon.
I love this show, but the idea that Leo wouldn’t know what casus belli meant is ridiculous. I know it’s for the audience, but that’s patronising to the audience too. The show rarely made this error, and it jars when you see it, which only illustrates how good the show was that it stands out so badly when it errs.
That said, Leo seems to think Andromeda was a planet, so who knows!
That was the president wanting to prove to Albi that he knew what it meant
Spot on. Another error that really jars is Evelyn Baker-Lang adding the title "Chief Justice" to her signature when dedicating a book to Toby's daughter -- before her nomination is officially announced. She is not at that moment the Chief Justice, and she would NEVER represent otherwise
@@uliwidmaier5192 doesn't she specifically call this out and the president tells her it's not premature
@@uliwidmaier5192That's literally covered off on the episode....
A federal judicial nominee does nit become a federal judge, or Justice, until confirmed by a majority of the Senate. She is being NOMINATED. Now ilher confirmation may be assured. Still, until the Senate vote aftually happens, she does not hold the position. The President cannot change this. Thus we have a glaring error here.
Except that under UNCLOS III, warships are allowed right of 'transit passage' through another nation's territorial waters, so long as it is done in their 'normal mode of continuous transit', and undertake no drills or exercises. That means it is perfectly legal for a submarine to pass through another nation's waters while dived - so, there would be no _causus belli._
That only applies to transit through straits. If it’s not a strait, a submarine has to surface before entering territorial waters.
No it’s not, for that area; it’s not a passage zone as like an international recognized strait and, she’s submerged. The writers didn’t make the international law up or the scenario in which it applies. 12 mile limit as territorial and 200 mile limit as exclusive zone (means no warships wo permission and with escort). The sub, at 60 miles in, has neither, so as pointed out, the US is committing an act of aggression which “could” be interpreted as an act of war.
Fun fact: the US has never ratified UNCLOS III and so is not a party to the agreement.
@@JohnSmith-gb5vgthey were also tapping into a North Korean communication line there too lol
@@trevorhardy4161 holy crap lol
I hated her character! She always had that anguished, constipated look one sees from the progressive left!
Well, that sounds like a perfectly reasonable response....