My HW50S shoots the H&N 8.64 grain / 4.51mm head size one hole groups at that short distance. It should hold 1/4” CTC group out to 35 yards. I have several springers and PCP Airguns, and compete with almost all of them. The gentleman that was mentioning your gun placement on the bag and changing your POI is correct. The HW50S is more powerful. I love my TX 200 MKII in walnut and beech , HW97 in .20 caliber, my old Beeman R1 Magnum, and I just got my replacement Crossman 6500 Challenger made by Anschutz. Nice video. Try some other pellets. I don’t use any flat head pellets.
Try a kit from Tin Bum Tuning. The spring guide fits much better than the stock guide. The TBT guide fits very snugly inside the spring which eliminates the spring buzz. Also comes with a very useful tophat for the front of the spring. Kit also comes with a good quality moly, I mixed some tungsten disulfide dry lubricant with the moly to make it a bit slicker and longer lasting. Did both my Beeman limited edition R9 & my R11 with this kit. Huge difference! I also removed about 4 coils from each spring and re dressed the ends. Both were great shooting guns before the tune, now they can drive tacks from a bench rest.
@@WalnutandSteel the rifle still has to arrive, the previous owner said it still shoots good, i have my doubts. Bought it for 225 euro, seems a good deal to me 😄
At 10 meters your grouping can be made tighter by paying more attention to consistency. Just re watch the video and look at your gun placement on the bag and how that affects the vertical spacing of your group and when you get the gun in the same position the groups tighten. Have fun now 👍
Feinwerkbau has a Much Finer true match grade barrel. It cost less to Suss the FWB trigger than to put a match quality barrel on the Weihrauch. Most people would never notice the difference. But the FWB just has more history and Class. 😀 RE: Few Thousandths... Machine rested the difference avgs. .03 difference c-t-c so apparently that works out right on the money.
Hi Nibs. Another great comparison video. I have a couple of Weihrauch air guns. Was wondering if your rear sites match up with your front globe irons. Both of mine factory globe fronts. What rear sites are you using. Thanks for the video. Signed up with your facebook account.
The HW95, which is closer in weight to the FWB 124, will cock with a pinky when tuned down to the power level of the FWB 124. And the firing cycle is probably much smoother when tuned down compared to its factory power level. HW is known for being careless with lubing their guns, so a strip down and relube would definitely protect the gun better and may smooth the firing cycle. Krytox is considered better than moly, but Krytox is very expensive.
I dont want to say too much about my next video but lets just say In a Crosman detuned rifle I got the Rws hobby 7.0gr to go 150 to 450+ fps slower than a premier pointed 7.4gr I like Rws quality but I am not sure they will ever get shot out of my crosman's again after seing this 🤔 Thoses guns seemed to like them tho! My Gamo's really like Rws pellets
That's an interesting result, my guess is the pellet diameter, skirt design and/or hardness will have a more noticeable effect on performance in a detuned rifle. RWS Hobby are a 'go to' lightweight pellet for testing low/medium power spring rifles and decent quality for the price, it seems strange they are going that much slower.
@@Beesa10 forgot to say, this is tool seated or they wont even come out! But I just noticed I messed up it was 50fps slower (average of ~408 fps seated) Or 0 fps not seated (jam) I barely get any spread but my crosmans are not liking harder/bigger skirt pellets!
@@LowkeyAirgunner That makes sense, might be worth trying JSB pellets which are softer, eg Jumbo Express/Jumbo RS, I think JSB Match pellets are available in different weights and diameters if you can find them.
@@Beesa10 had great results with Jsb express and RS yet accuracy wise! (.177) But I did not waste any in the chronograph yet $$$ 😁 Expensive but great pellets! If I had to shoot only type of pellet for the rest of my life with all my airguns it would be one of them!
@@LowkeyAirgunner That is the drawback (I justify the cost by comparing with shotgun cartridges). I bought 1250 Crosman Premier 7.9gr some years ago which worked out pretty good value, quality dome pellets which came in a cardboard box, not as soft as JSB but consistent, good accuracy potential for spring rifles depending on the gun (and the shooter!)
i like math more the feinwerkbau , i dont not a other brand innemore.German rifles from the years 60 and 70 are so good now sche making nothing as rubbisch !!!!!!
Weihrauch for me or nothing!
Very good content. I really enjoy watching your videos. Cheers
All groups look great to me
I like that sight on the first rifle.
My HW50S shoots the H&N 8.64 grain / 4.51mm head size one hole groups at that short distance. It should hold 1/4” CTC group out to 35 yards. I have several springers and PCP Airguns, and compete with almost all of them. The gentleman that was mentioning your gun placement on the bag and changing your POI is correct. The HW50S is more powerful. I love my TX 200 MKII in walnut and beech , HW97 in .20 caliber, my old Beeman R1 Magnum, and I just got my replacement Crossman 6500 Challenger made by Anschutz. Nice video. Try some other pellets. I don’t use any flat head pellets.
Yes you can find H&N ftt can produce a wider grouping out of some rifles, being the pellet can be a bit tight in the rifling .
Nice video.
Try a kit from Tin Bum Tuning. The spring guide fits much better than the stock guide. The TBT guide fits very snugly inside the spring which eliminates the spring buzz. Also comes with a very useful tophat for the front of the spring. Kit also comes with a good quality moly, I mixed some tungsten disulfide dry lubricant with the moly to make it a bit slicker and longer lasting. Did both my Beeman limited edition R9 & my R11 with this kit. Huge difference! I also removed about 4 coils from each spring and re dressed the ends. Both were great shooting guns before the tune, now they can drive tacks from a bench rest.
Just bought a fwb 124 serial nr 10933 should be close to yours i guess. Has the same stock and triggerblade. Keep those nice videos coming 😀
Do you know if the piston head has been replaced on yours? They were know to be problematic on these. Easy fix though
@@WalnutandSteel the rifle still has to arrive, the previous owner said it still shoots good, i have my doubts. Bought it for 225 euro, seems a good deal to me 😄
Sounds like a good deal either way.
Nice air rifles, it think the HW50 fresh spring has more power and therefore a little less stability.
At 10 meters your grouping can be made tighter by paying more attention to consistency. Just re watch the video and look at your gun placement on the bag and how that affects the vertical spacing of your group and when you get the gun in the same position the groups tighten.
Have fun now 👍
Feinwerkbau has a Much Finer true match grade barrel. It cost less to Suss the FWB trigger than to put a match quality barrel on the Weihrauch. Most people would never notice the difference. But the FWB just has more history and Class. 😀
RE: Few Thousandths... Machine rested the difference avgs. .03 difference c-t-c so apparently that works out right on the money.
evribody his oppinion but i stay til myn lest days schoothing with verry old en she schootingdam accuraat !!!! have a nice day myn friend
Hi Nibs. Another great comparison video. I have a couple of Weihrauch air guns. Was wondering if your rear sites match up with your front globe irons. Both of mine factory globe fronts. What rear sites are you using. Thanks for the video. Signed up with your facebook account.
Congratulations my friend! The carbines were beautiful. I tried to use the R15 scope on my carbines, but the scope was not interesting for accuracy.
Thanks!
The HW95, which is closer in weight to the FWB 124, will cock with a pinky when tuned down to the power level of the FWB 124. And the firing cycle is probably much smoother when tuned down compared to its factory power level. HW is known for being careless with lubing their guns, so a strip down and relube would definitely protect the gun better and may smooth the firing cycle. Krytox is considered better than moly, but Krytox is very expensive.
Buenos rifles .un Saludo
excellent video 👌👌, could you please tell me which sight you are using on the HW50S or better send me a link where I could find it ready to mount it🙏🙏
I have the gowutar 2 moa red dot on it. I did use a picatinnyto 11 mm adaptor on it
@@WalnutandSteel Thank you very much for your response👌🙏🙏
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Question, what would a Beeman be called in the Hw50? From what I see the Beeman has a good warranty. Thanks
I don’t know sorry
Beeman R6
@@whiskeykilmer1866 Yes you had the R6 and the R8, the R8 was the earlier version with 25mm diameter piston. This newer has a 26mm.
I see the "Steel" but where is the "Walnut"?
Pretty sure the fwb is made with walnut. The weihrauch is beech I believe
77/97 platform is the one for me.
Just rebuild a Crosman 140 22 caliber. Replaced all seal. When you pump it it binds. How can this be fixed?
It binds when you try to close the pump handle?
@@WalnutandSteel it binds when you pull the pump handle all the way out. Is there any way to contact you directly? Thanks
My email is in description text of this video
I dont want to say too much about my next video but lets just say In a Crosman detuned rifle I got the Rws hobby 7.0gr to go 150 to 450+ fps slower than a premier pointed 7.4gr
I like Rws quality but I am not sure they will ever get shot out of my crosman's again after seing this 🤔
Thoses guns seemed to like them tho!
My Gamo's really like Rws pellets
That's an interesting result, my guess is the pellet diameter, skirt design and/or hardness will have a more noticeable effect on performance in a detuned rifle. RWS Hobby are a 'go to' lightweight pellet for testing low/medium power spring rifles and decent quality for the price, it seems strange they are going that much slower.
@@Beesa10 forgot to say, this is tool seated or they wont even come out!
But I just noticed I messed up it was 50fps slower (average of ~408 fps seated)
Or 0 fps not seated (jam)
I barely get any spread but my crosmans are not liking harder/bigger skirt pellets!
@@LowkeyAirgunner That makes sense, might be worth trying JSB pellets which are softer, eg Jumbo Express/Jumbo RS, I think JSB Match pellets are available in different weights and diameters if you can find them.
@@Beesa10 had great results with Jsb express and RS yet accuracy wise! (.177)
But I did not waste any in the chronograph yet $$$ 😁
Expensive but great pellets!
If I had to shoot only type of pellet for the rest of my life with all my airguns it would be one of them!
@@LowkeyAirgunner That is the drawback (I justify the cost by comparing with shotgun cartridges). I bought 1250 Crosman Premier 7.9gr some years ago which worked out pretty good value, quality dome pellets which came in a cardboard box, not as soft as JSB but consistent, good accuracy potential for spring rifles depending on the gun (and the shooter!)
I can't quit watching videos that say Weihrauch in the title 😢
i like math more the feinwerkbau , i dont not a other brand innemore.German rifles from the years 60 and 70 are so good now sche making nothing as rubbisch !!!!!!
Much better workmanship in the Vintage rifles. 👍
Most of the new rifles exhibit better fit and machine work. Only the stocks are a step down.
Not good trkt
Huh?