Odroid H3+ First Look, An All New Tiny & Fast X86 SBC! EMU, Gaming, 4K Testing
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- In this video, we take a look at the new ODROID H3+ X86 Single Board Computer from Hard Kernel! It can run windows or Linux and has a 3.3GHz Quad Core CPU! We Do an Unboxing, Overview, Go over the specs, and Test some 4K Video Playback, PC Gaming, and Emulation like the PPSSPP Emulator, The Dolphin EMulator for Gamecube and Wii, CEMU, and even PS2 using PCSX2. So is this new SBC Worth Buying? Let’s Find Out.
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00:00 Introduction
00:29 unboxing
01:06 Overview and assembly
03:19 Odroid H3+ Specs
04:29 Windows performance Odroid H3+
05:59 4k youtube video playback Odroid H3+
06:42 Odroid h3+ N6005 Benchmarks
07:19 Odroid H2+ N6005 Gaming
09:48 PSP Emulation Odroid H3+
10:28 Gamecube and Wii Dolphin Emulator Odroid H3+
11:25 WiiU Emulation Test CEMU Odroid H3+
12:04 PS2 Emulation Test Odroid H3+
12:45 Power consumption and first impressions Odroid H3+
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Very excited to see this running a home server linux distro. Pack it full of HDDs for NAS capability and stuff it with useful VMs/Docker containers, the efficiency is insane at this price point. Especially if you have leftover parts hanging around like random HDDs. But for this channel maybe slap some SteamOS on this guy and a m.2 to PCI adapter and a discrete GPU (RX6400), for the lols.
It's interesting seeing this tiny thing beating my 10yo tower pc in every test taken in this video. Knowing that there are devices using so little power to do things that would need a full-blown pc in the past is quite fascinating. I surely hope we can expect a full on gaming pc capable of at least 1080p high graphic setting on such small form factor in the future.
#1 - you do an amazing job with your channel
#2 - I'd love to see this baby run Trunas (mainly for freeBSD & hardware compatibility) and batocera (separately of course).
Great vid. I love the looks and specs of this product. That being said, I went to order it from Hardkernel and the cost for a case, the H3+ and PS were around $200 US. On checking out, the shipping was set at $111 US. I cancelled the order. I'll wait to see if there are better deals in the future.
Check Ameridroid, $218 with shipping added in for what you're looking for
Awesome video man !!!
This SBC would make a nice ProxMox node for a small cluster. Good for home labs to experiment.
I bought three of these for this reason. I wanted to test a Proxmox cluster.
That setup with an eGPU 2060 or similar would be interesting.
It would be garbage
Oh my god. Literally just ordered one. Now I got 2 different mini PCs coming soon. This one is perfect WITHOUT a wifi card, its compact, and silent. Setups like this are perfect for people like me that need discreet PC's on Linux and cheap enough to be disposable when needed.
I love the n6005 and wish it were more available in mini PCs.
It's a great chip - very snappy for what it is. NVME drive also helps a ton. The N5105 i also have is just sluggish in comparison.
I have the NUC 11 ATKPE, great little mini PC. This is even more interesting but at the cost of potential stability - my NUC is rock solid while my Chinese N5105 from Beelink is just a touch buggy at times
Just wait till the 8505
These are great for a mini server for docker, plex, Pi-hole,wireguard vpn etc.
Man I love your Channel ❤
That is an excellent match for my homelab(which is currently just a bunch of Docker containers on my XPEnology NAS)
quite the little beast, thanks for the heads up!!!
Plan on putting one of these in a gutted ps2 for a little nostalgia
Would be interesting to compare Batocera performance to Windows in PS2 emulation. Will be waiting for your views on the Ultra to see if it's worth going to from the Super version.
I'd love to see that with your PCIe 16x adapter with the Radeon 6400 and Steam OS.
Thanks ETA, let's us know when it has a case. I think I find my SBC for retro. Definitely request seeing Batocera.
I'm very much interested in performance of Manjaro on both the H3 and H3+ in video playback (streaming & files) of up to 4k. Because that'd basically be my use case for them.
Oh man! The H3+ is gonna be my next SBC!
I have the HC4 and really like the look of this.
I would love to see how to setup a NAS using a board like this. I have a few old SATA drives and would love to just have a little home "cloud" storage for everyone in the house to use.
There are first party cases for this board with space for drives. I have bought one myself, still waiting for other components to arrive then I'm gonna slap NixOS with ZFS and root on tmpfs on this board.
I like seeing emulation testing, but Im also itnerested in seeing games like CSGO, Halo Infinite, LoL, etc.
Since it is a quad core, I bet it can run most older games flawlessly, but getting into 2015 and up, it's probably going to struggle some
@@carsonbrooks1326 I suspect, but I'd still be interested, especially something like LoL which can run on incredibly low specs. I had laptops that coudlnt even come close to running Dolphin GC emulation, but could play LoL perfectly at good settings
@@alexcarlone7967 No way you were getting competitive FPS. Probably got ran over in heavy engagements as your PC chugged to below 30 fps 💀
Halo infinite no way it runs well, that game is surprisingly demanding. I don't think it will run at all tbh. CSGO it might be able to do 30 fps? I have run it on Intel 8550U and UHD 620 and it was 30 fps on low with drops below 30. Perhaps this will perform around the same?
Could you check overwatch 2?
Would love to see this running SteamOS or Manjaro! Very interesting computer considering the low power draw.
I wouldn't waste time with SteamOS, this would be terrible for gaming.
This Odroid SBS is looking pretty nice. I've been looking around for a device that could be used as a home server and NAS. I think this is looking very close to what is required. Maybe when they release the H4+ in a few years it will have 10Gb ethernet as well as more SATA ports. Then this would be a very nice machine indeed!
A 10GB ethernet standard is kind of more than a few years away. Look how just recently 2.5 GB is becoming more common and Gigabit lasted a long time.
I'd say get a Mini-ITX case like a Silverstone ML09B (7.0 Liter case) with an Intel i7-12700 (non-K), a low profile 10GB network card for like $600 total and use that if you need the speed and extra SATA ports.
I've never been so tempted to get this, run an nvme to external gpu adapter, and run some gaming just out of curiousity. these pentium silvers and atom derivatives have evolved so much!
This is exactly what I want to see!
@n n it's a Pentium. 4:54 look at the task manager. It was called a Celeron in error, this is one of the effecient derivatives of atoms many years ago. There is no such thing as a Celeron n6005. There is a Pentium n6005
@n n names haven't had much impact into schematics for Intel in a long time. The "true" Celeron and Pentium parts have been historically single and dual core high power parts. In the last decade they've shared architecture with the mainstream core series. The Celeron and Pentium "N/J" name skus have always been relegated to higher power hybrids of the Atom line though. Processors that are power efficient, but not enough to be an atom, but have 0 dna with their true Core/Celeron/Pentium brethren. To call it a Celeron because it shares the same core count and architecture with the slower twin is odd to me. Celerons with this architecture have historically been dual cores, and pentiums quad cores, then eventually Intel began naming them based on clocks not just core counts with some celerons being quadcore low clocks.
It's no different than the core I3/5/7 U laptop chips, which for 6+ years have always been dual cores with HT, only separated by clocks. If anything, I'd be more inclined to call quadcore celerons pentiums, than call pentiums a Celeron as in the last 4 years there have been several dual core celerons in the "N" naming, but never a dual core Pentium thus the atom hybrid quadcore have always been either called "Atom" or "Pentium" but the celerons have not always been quadcore.
@n n Where does it say Intel is killing celeron, there is news that they are changing the branding because it makes sense as they are not this cheap sht processsors anymore and are really capable of basic tasks well.
@n n You can call it an AMD A8- 10100fkstX-v4 lol just don't correct someone with imaginary names. It's a Pentium. It looks like the last 7 years of low power pentiums.
I'd like to see a comparison against the other odroids and maybe other rockchip SBCs, especially benchmarks
Thanks for the pictures at the end. I was wondering how the fan mounting went? Seems like you might have to adjust size, to match the heatsink.. Are there any dedicated cases for this board?
Thank you for adding WoW in again!
Definitely enjoy all of your reviews , great job. I wanted to ask, could you get a an external gpu and add to it for gaming...
Not sure if anyone has said this but you sound exactly like the Morgan guy that always ask the first questions at ufc press conferences
Oh man, I WANT that! The 6005 is solid for little systems.
Great little SBC, I will keep an eye on it for future endeavors.
Any thoughts on doing a review of the Beelink GT-King II it was just released in June and has the A311D2 chipset
So far there are no English speaking reviews that I can find on UA-cam
Great video!
I would love to see a video of this PCB with Recalbox X86 =)
Plutôt Batocera ;)
I have the HC4 now. Been wanting something with upgradable RAM and faster overall. Seems like a huge bottleneck in my Nextcloud installation.
And I'm liking that type 4 case.
manjaro!! Would like to see how these windows games run with proton along with retro emulation
Seeing it running using batocera would be awesome 👏🤝
Neat little Intel machine. When you do the follow up load up some challenging Steam games too. Please rate its performance and power draw using a SATA HDD as well because some of us can't afford 14 TB SSDs when we want to create a home theater PC :)
Thank you for the video, would you mind benchmarking AV1 decoding on linux (libreelec)... thanx!
Do you think it's possible to add a M.2 to SATA adapter to add 5 more SATA port, so use this board in a NAS system. It will be passive cooled and low power. Thought?
Thanks for mentioning power consumption!
This looks like a great pfSense box!
need this kinda chip in a fanless handheld 🎮
Nice!!
Let’s get my boy too 1m subs
Under Linux you can offload video decoding on the GPU via VA-API, Firefox is now able to utilize it, Kodi can manage 8K videos without breaking into sweat.
Gracias por la información, muy interesante. :)
Same cpu but on a mini-itx board with 4x Sata and 1x PCI express slot would be better.
As a longtime Slackware user I'd like to see you run that on it.
With respect to N5105 cpu and virtualization potential, Proxmox forum discussions over the summertime 2022 indicated that while PM itself was stable on N5105, users' VMs themselves ununderstandably were crashing (i.e., without impairment of Proxmox itself). J4125 Celeron (Goldmont Plus microarchitecture) was continuing to garner these PM users' attention; I don't know whether N5105 issues relating to Proxmox have been patched since. Some Proxmox users had switched to VMware in order to deploy N5105 VMs . . . *So . . . will the same be said for N6005 as N5105 (both are Tremont microarchitecture)?* Dunno.
Awesome vid, Prime. 👍 Thank you very much for the at-the-wall power consumption measurements.
Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
I have been running Proxmox with 2 VMs on a 5105 for several months. It is absolutely stable. No problems.
@@TheDanno530 Thank you Dan. Kindest regards.
Thanks for your videos, what do you think is better Odroid H3+ with 16gb ram or Khadas edge 2 pro for running Ubuntu as a desktop? Thanks
Love hard kernel but they're for specific use cases. Rarely will you be better off with their sbc over a nuc.
This is an amazing board, the 6005 is a very capable cpu. Imo its a really amazing offering from Odriod, only thing holding me down to is the Realtek lans, for a router i would prefer intel.
8:26 for a moment I thought Michael from GTAV was in Marvel vs. Capcom...
I wouldn't use this for games, there are better options, but a video using this for like pfsense, or unraid as a router/firewall or media server would be interesting. 2 Nics makes it perfect for that. I wonder if anyone makes cases for it.
I saw cases for this board on Hard Kernel's site. There are multiple options for it.
Please do a Plex server with this. I want to see how many 4K HEVC to 1080p h264 transcodes it can do with QuickSync. This could be an awesome Plex box with that GPU.
I hope to see the day when small x86 boards like this hit the market with proper ECC RAM
Yes yes yes!
The Udoo Bolt Gear makes use of so-dimm ECC.
love to see it running Batocera Ps2
nice little unit. here come the big but. can currently buy a full 57oog based system for only 60 pound more here in the UK after tax and import duties. with 16gb , 512 m.2 nvme , mobo, power supply and case with fans.
👍👍👍👍👍Great Video; Thank You!
Yes. Linux pls.
Scaling ui doesn't affect 4k or whatever, its not double pixeling or like that it just affects scale for ui elements and font sizes.
I think manjaro. Main reason is lower end steam games would definetly be somthing this pc will be best for. Like og far cry and pixel games such as hero seige
Looks to be the perfect Desktop for the vast majority of users. SFF, low-TDP and silent. 👍
double 4TB HDD in raid0, 1TB nvme for cache and 64GB eMMC for system ... true nas is best for me and i can do everything on this ... nice look thx ETA
a good one to max out nvme and ram and use bonding or bridge to get 5g node perf
I’d love to see Batocera. I’d also like to see options for enclosures to get a better feel on how this little guy can be customized and utilized. I’d bet it’s pretty solid.
When are you going to revisit VMan's image, he is using retrobat on windows as his base, its come along way since the pi days. He just added PS vita emulation which is still very new. Lots of content you could talk about.
Batocera would be great, thanks. And perhaps some newer MAME games, which require a current version of MAME?
Would love to see TrueNAS with Plex running on this machine
It's funny, I was waiting to learn about a chip that can run Windows that could rivaled the RK3588 in terms of costs. And this seems to hit the sweet spot for me to make a RE: Outbreak server from.
would ❤️to see some Batocera on this!
I really wish those 2 white fan headers were sata ports too. This would be the perfect little 4 bay nas board then. you could still achieve it with an m.2 to sata controller board though for a little extra cost. i just have no idea how reliable those are.
I think the two white fan headers you are talking about are actually SATA power connections. Necessary for those two sata ports. I suppose you could add some sort of external power though. According to the product page, there's only one active fan header. It's on the opposite side of the SATA connections.
Now we're talking!
Hey ETA Prime, just a small detail: the N6005 isn’t a Celeron, but a Pentium Silver processor. Not that it really matters.
This is a pretty decent emulation machine it's to bad it struggles on some games I was almost sold on this thing. I wonder what holds it back the cpu or gpu. Maybe there is a work around for better performance.
Something like this with a 8CU Navi 2 APU would be great.
omg that makes me drool
So basically a SBC with the SteamDeck APU?
@@Get-Rekt Of course it has to be a newer generation CPU core. Steamdeck is running on Zen 2.
I like to see ArchLinux loaded on the card how will it preforms. I like to see how it will handle usb WiFi and Bluetooth.
Could you try Xpenology using ARPL and if it works, show the power consumption with two 3.5 HDD’s 🙏
Neat little SBC. Intel shows the N6005 to be a Pentium Silver CPU.
With 16GB max RAM according to Intel, 64GB according to HardKernel. ???
@@combatepistemologist8382 Hardkernel tested it themselves and it was able to support 64gb. If you tried this yourself, you almost definitely should get the same results. It might be a result of intel trying to downplay their pentium cpus in favour of pushing potential customers to their higher end core series. Personally I feel that 64gb of ram is way overkill for a cpu of this performance tier, unless there is some very niche workload that uses a lot of ram but does not need a strong cpu.
Can you connect the M.2 GPU Dock? Maybe run some Plex transcodes or Forza Horizon 5 with the external GPU
what was the max power draw and average power draw of the whole setup including the fan?
in this particular case playing these games
Need some advice:
1) what enclosures can be used?
2) is there a beefier passive heat sink that can be mounted?
Dual LAN makes this an amazing little router.
Still better than anything the Raspberry Foundations has put out.
Everyone seems to put out better SBCs than Raspberry pi....It sucks because such great cases come out for the Raspberry pis...I dont want to support them. I want to support HardKernel, or anyone else
Love to see kali linux running on this pc
Very nice 👍
looks like a great foundation for a NAS + Plex server.
What is the model of that monitor?... the Benq. it looks really nice
I wonder if any of these SBC's will be able to reliably run Future Pinball or VPX
Me a sorprendido. Planeo construir una máquina Arcade y estoy si meterle un PC de gama media, un mini PC de 500 a 600 dólares o un mini PC básico de oficina de 100 a 200 dólares y la Odroid parece también ser una buena opción, la Raspberry la tengo descartada ya tenía una y además que su precio actual es muy alto para lo que ofrece.
interresting to install steal OS on External SSD and EGC !
I'm thinking this will make one damn nice handheld gaming PC running steam os
That fan made a massive difference in temperatures... Being clock limited after that, I assume we can't push up the clocks on this guy or are there any tweaks?
I wish it comes with usb-c display capability
I just found about this SBC yesterday so the timing of this video couldn't have been better 😄
Anyways, the Geekbench performance is surprisingly similar to a RK3588 SoC which makes me wonder how would these two compare in emulation and some light linux gaming (FOSS games like Xonotic that can be compiled on basically any CPU architecture)
It would be also pretty cool to see which one of these chips is more efficient and whether a smaller company like Rockchip can match the performance and efficiency of low power Intel Pentium CPUs
x86 will be better because of the whole driver support issue on ARM SBCs.
@@AD34534 Well, if you are a windows user, I get that ARM SBCs might not be for you but for FOSS and GNU/Linux nerds, these are some of the best toys because you can run most of the things you would run on your regular x86 PC and if something doesn't work out of the box, you can just nerd over it and compile it yourself.
I found myself in a weird spot - I don't even play computer games because my PC can't run the good ones and the rest doesn't satisfy me and tinkering with GNU/Linux (Arch, btw) gives me much more joy 🤣
Run Garuda linux it's very optimised infact it runs on my 16 year old celeron processor pc clocked at 1ghz
Also it's based on arch Linux and uses Pacman package manager its really good with ui and animations if you don't want you can disable the animations and it has got a lot of themes inside the flash tool plus it is very well optimised linux distro for gaming
It would be nice to see linux on this board with nvme to PCIe adapter installing 1050ti like low-range GPU. I guess you can easily use sata ssd to release nvme port.
Dude, get a AMD 300U mini pc. It worked with a RX 560 4GB and a RX 6700 12GB. It actually worked, could play a 4k 60fps game just fine on the RX 6700.
Can you use an eGPU with the beast adapter and an ssd or a head drive through sata?
@3:25 This feature the Intel N6005 chip... isn't that "Pentium Silver" (Jasper Lake / Tremont) rather than "Celeron" ?
Ever wonder what that shiny bag and bright yellow warning sticker meant?
Can you maybe put it against an H2+? This is what I have right now. It used to be a NAS, but I needed more drives and I made a NAS out of my old desktop.