Question: If say, hypothetically, I was "single" and "lonely" do you think there would be a tactical advantage to carrying a suppressed pistol, concealed, in the appendix position? Hypothetically.
When I was 17 someone attempted to carjack me, or just kill me, I dont know. I saw him walking down the sidewalk towards my truck in my rearview and for some reason I put it in first gear because something just felt off. He walked up on passenger side and said "whats up dog" and immediately drew a pistol and started firing. Luckily my window was only 3-4" down and he was an idiot who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Being 17 I didn't have a pistol so I just tore out of there like a bat outta hell. Because of this I keep my pistol in my iwb holster, wedged between driver and center seat at all times. You're correct we're not in Baghdad, but man, it can happen anywhere and at any time. I will say, however, that even now and with a pistol next to me I would've been toast if he could aim, there was no time at all.
As a police officer my favorite way to carry in a vehicle was a small frame revolver in an ankle holster. Once seated for my trip I always pulled my pant leg up just over the gun. Extremely quick with little movement. My revolver was on the inside of my left leg and easy to access with my right hand.. maybe old school but when I was getting hired the semi autos where just becoming popular with law enforcement. I was even able to unholster it keep it close to my body and slide it up inside my jacket and under my left armpit as someone approached my vehicle without the firearm being noticed. I used this method one time and my partner didn’t even notice me do it as a very disturbed individual ran up to our auto.
I almost got car jacked. Dude walked past me and made a B line to my blind spot on the passenger side. It’s because of videos like this I was ahead of the curve and saw him and just drove away. Thank you 🙏🏼
Know the feeling. I had to use a drive up ATM late one night, scanning the area around the bank. While collecting funds a man approached from the blindside on the passenger side. My Shepard saw him fist and probably saved me. I had my dogs 🐶 6. Getting my 45 the game. His Hands went up and started walking backwards away from the car.
Two big ones missing, the old school shoulder holster and kydex mounted inside the center console. Both of those allow you to have the gun in the event of a wreck, and prevent you from flagging your legs on the draw. Car carry is one of the scenarios where shoulder holsters actually make sense.
The weapon should be secured in place so in the event of a hard brake, collision or roll over, so you will know where to find the pistol as you recover from the situation.
Yeah, I was pondering that statement, too! I got kids and have seen enough home invasion videos to know that there’s not always time to get to the “secured” piece on the mantle when the door is rushed by multiple assailants. Better safe than sorry.
Your key point about training with different perspectives at the end there, reaches farther than just training, but all knowledge and education. Warren Buffet said, "knowledge is like wealth, it compounds". Great video, man.
A kydex trigger guard "minimalist holster" tied to the inside of the bag would allow for you to carry safely with one in the chamber while "loose" in the bag
Stinger Magnetic Gun Holder mounted to the left side of the console under the dash puts it by my right knee. Or under the dash just above the right knee. VERY secure, out of sight, easy and quick access. It was easy to mount and works like a charm. 20 year LEO, it works for me.
Aren’t car manufacturers regularly putting airbags under the dash for your knees/legs now? I know my F-150 has them, guessing Ford isn’t the only one doing it. I’d think that would pose a pretty significant problem.
When I worked undercover in a vehicle I found a crossdraw holster to work well. When flying aircraft a shoulder holster worked well. The shoulder holster is a form of crossdraw. 👍😊🇺🇸
@@jamesholmes6900 I have used many different kinds of holsters. For striker type pistols I feel Kydex holsters are safer. Before retiring from my flight career I carried a shoulder holster from (if I am correct from Jack Ass Holsters in leather with a 1911). We had been authorized to carry 1911s. In my experience kydex holsters seem to have less drag than other materials when drawing the firearm quickly. I have used several We The People Holsters with success. However, there are several manufactures of quality kydex holsters!👍😊🇺🇸
I have recently begun to pre stage my pistol that I carry AIWB when I drive because I had this exact scenario explained to me and I knew I needed to do better
I like that you are smart enough not to carry a striker-fired pistol with a short trigger pull and no manual safety floqting around loose. I am always amazed how many people can't see the issue with that.
Carrying a striker-fired pistol with a short trigger pull and no manual safety doesn’t make you dumb. Often, when people have a misfire or accidental towards themselves you’ll often learn it’s negligence. Many, when they draw may flag themselves, have a sloppy draw, or don’t practice their draw often. Striker-fired pistols just don’t go off and don’t have a history of doing so within the past 15 years, especially. A short trigger pull? That’s because someone dropped those triggers in there, striker’s don’t come with short trigger pulls by default and usually are a 2.5-3 second trigger pull with at least 3-6 pds of pressure required. The reason why there isn’t a manual safety is because it’s designed to allow you to draw with snagging your clothes or holster when conceal carrying. The safety is often in two places within a striker-fired. 1. Inside often by or around the striker and 2. In the trigger itself. There simply isn’t a lot of cases of people shootings themselves or others accidentally with strikers.
What are you talking about? Striker fired pistols don't just go off. If it does that pistol is 15-20 years old. Also, what does floating around loose have to do with anything? I carry chambered at all times, and not one of my guns has a safety. Me: Draw my pistol and fire. You: Grab your pistol, take it off safety, chamber round-RIP....
@@MattyB7 Floating around loose in a bag? It’s still the same issue as I stated. You don’t have stories of striker fired pistols just going off loose in a bag either! Most people consciously aren’t going to put anything in the bag or area where the striker pistol is located.
I just have a Safariland QLS clip mounted to my center console so I can take the Safariland holster off my range belt and mount it inside my truck. It goes with me everywhere via appendix, but I make long drives frequently and it's nice to have it stored and secure, but with easy access if need be.
@@natelow4989 I can't stand those stupid magnet mounts. GuD EnOuGh FoR mE, sure, until your gun flies around your truck in an accident. "Your car is not a holster" seems to fall on deaf ears frequently. I like the idea of a Level 3 retention holster, that's also at waistband distance, but is permanently secured to my truck.
What do you do in the event that you're pulled over by police? This is something that was never mentioned in the video and I'm wondering how most officers would react to seeing the firearm so easily accessible. I guess it depends on where you live to how they would react
@@TonyAlvestad I don't do a damn thing. It's in my center console, which I can also lock. I don't have to report that I'm carrying a firearm, but am required to answer if I am asked here in Minnesota.
@@TonyAlvestad Any time you get pulled over please roll down ALL windows and put both hands up where the cop can see them. Do not try and reach for your license or registration until asked to do so (the cop walking up does not know what your are reaching for or hiding). At night please turn on the interior light. If the weapon can be seen from outside the car let the cop know right away. if the weapon is concealed I wouldn't tell him. If the weapon is concealed where you keep your license and reg tell the cop before you reach. If you don't and he/she sees a gun thing will get real tense real fast.
Most of these work until you get into a fender bender and everything ends up on the floor. A hard mounted holster would solve this. And a lockbox if you have to leave the gun in the car
Yup, I just leave it on me. I personally don’t like the idea of car holsters. If I absolutely have to I’ll lock it in my truck. Leaving loaded guns un-attended in vehicles is stupid and your just giving your gun to bad people.
For appendix carry; Shirt goes over the lap belt, placing the lap belt along the same line as my actual belt. This makes the draw the almost the same as a seated appendix draw(albeit a bit more reclined in a sedan). Takes less than 10 seconds to do and has become a part of the same unconscious motion as putting on the seatbelt itself.
1+ to this. I've only been carrying appendix for maybe a couple months at this point, but I'm finally getting this committed to muscle memory. Reps ftw.
A good discussion that gets you to think about your setup. Raven Concealment has a trigger guard that can be used to tether to the inside of a bag or even attached to the inside of the vehicle if your're concerned with something getting into the trigger well and possibly creating a discharge.
Mike is such an intelligent man, a true American gem. I’ve been watching him for years. Respect. When he wore Glock… he always had one in the pipe. Now that he switched to Sig…
After buckling my seat belt I lift my shirt, shift the lap belt between the holster and stomach, then let my shirt drop over it. It works for my appendix carry. Also some states (WA) require you to have the firearm directly on your person if loaded in the vehicle. I used to wedge the holster between the seat and center console until I took 911 Academy's multi state carry course. As a law enforcement instructor at Burien and having served as an expert witness in many court cases he covered some uncommon knowledge!
@@CAAAAAish I'm attaching a link for you. The gentleman that teaches the multi carry and i1639 course is or was a law enforcement instructor at the Burien law enforcement academy. He was also an expert witness and has seen the inside of a courtroom many times. There are tons of BS laws and ways to interpret them and this is one of those. Be careful! It could depend on who your law enforcement officer happens to be!
@@CAAAAAish the link keeps getting blocked or deleted. Look up RCW 9.41.050 The import part is "(i) The pistol is on the licensee's person...". The man made this point very clear. Just my opinion, but the places in WA you need to carry the most tend to be liberal and aren't friendly to the 2A.
I use Alien Gear Shapeshift holster with the Driver Defense set up. It is extremely fast, it's secure, and it draws very naturally. The holster sits between your legs attached to your seat. You can then move the holster from seat to OWB carry in less than 10 secs.
I also like this concept. I Find my holster of the same model, with the paddle holster attachment, I can put the paddle between the plastic and fabric of the seat and it locks tight.. Draw is the same as if on my waist. :)
I use an Alien Gear "Shapeshift Driver Defense Holster" and am very pleased with it. The holster is located at the edge of the drivers seat right between my knees. The weapon is secure and I have very easy access. I have practiced so it is an easy draw. The only negative, from the video, is I take my firearm out of appendix carry and put into the vehicle holster (or vice versa) ever time I enter or exit my vehicle.
This is something I have not previously considered so thank you for addressing it. Looks like I need to find a safer way to stage during long commutes and road trips. However, I’d still plan to appendix carry for daily use. But then the same safety concern applies…a lot to think about.
I was appendix carrying when I was in an accident that threw my car 150 feet. I carry with the seatbelt placed under the holster. The seatbelt did the normal damage it does as in it was bruised all the way across but by placing the seatbelt under my holster it didn’t cause extra damage. It also makes drawing if needed faster. So I would say if you’re appendix carrying while in a car ALWAYS put the seatbelt under the holster. I’m glad that’s my SOP!
OK, several points: You are in an SUV (I everyday drive a 2006 Duramax 2500) so you have an elevated view = very good, you can see traffic ahead and potential threats over other vehicles; the bag is a good sale point, but an awkward place to reach for a gun (in a sharp deceleration it usually ends up on the floor); an excellent (zero cost) option is to put some work/tactical gloves (always handy) in the door cubby holder and then place your handgun (inverted) on top...this keeps the damn thing from rattling around the plastic bin and DRIVING YOU NUTZOID! Works for me.
What a great video! It definitely served its purpose. I do see some comments picking some of it apart. You didn’t state it was going to be the sure all to the set up for vehicle carry. The reason it was the best vehicle carry video I have seen so far is this. It was about questioning what I was doing right now. I have worked on my home set as well as how I EDC. I have been thinking about when I am in my vehicle or even a passenger in some one else’s. I have to admit I hadn’t found anything I was confident in or liked yet. You had some great ideas and ignited my commitment to finding the right set up for myself. I had not really worked that hard to finding a solution. I think I was hoping it would just come to me maybe. Thank you for the ideas and educating us why it’s important and some of the practical things to consider! I am subscribing right now to your channel! Big thanks, it’s appreciated!
Great video. 12:33 "have a separate pistol" ... and spare mag(s). When you leave the vehicle, put it in a lock box. EDC stays on your person at all times.
Someone I know uses the G-code vehicle mount system and has it mounted below the ignition infront of them inside of a G-code XST holster mounted to an RTI mount. On the Ronin belt they use they have the G-code hip ride with single strap so the firearm is readily accessible and has lvl 2 retention inside the XST which if needed can be swapped over to the ronin belt. They keep a haley incog in the vehicle so when they get out they take that and the pistol in it appendix. This has easily been the best setup for safety accessibility speed and ease of use for that individual.
The most ludicrous car setup I use to do in the wintertime while doing my part time delivery is Appendix carry g17 with baldr pro light & 30round mag. Bad areas. Usually 43x though most of the time lol
I am right handed and wear my sidearm at the 9:30. Just as fast as appendix, seatbelt does not interfere. Easier draw all around. I drive up to 10 hours a day.
My 18' GMC Sierra 2500 has a perfect pocket next to the console right next to your right leg. Fits my X-Compact and holster perfectly. I go right from my appendix straight to the pocket in the console.
Here goes.... Long before their were plate carriers..... I carried a SW model 65 as my duty weapon in a clam shell holster that was modified to be on my hip, drawing from a seated position was slow and somewhat difficult, when working plain clothes with the SOS unit I was introduced to the shoulder holster, east to remove sidearm when seated and could get to the sidearm with either hand, really liked it. For some reason some "Gun guys" think moving your sidearm to a position in the car is a bad thing, I really don't know why. Practical operation is always the best teacher. Keep up the good work MG.
I carry my pistol held by one of those ridiculously strong magnets mounted under the dash by the cup holders. From the street/outside view you'll never see it without very deliberate searching and aid of a light. From inside, it is extremely quick access and holds remarkably secure. I've run all over my ranch, off road, bouncing around over obstacles and it has yet to drop, move, or pop loose. My ONLY concern is IF I get pulled over and a jumpy cop sees it in "plain view" they may get a little pissy. But I'm willing to risk it and make my interactions with police polite and as comfortable for them as possible.
@@alphabettheo3580 jic the link doesn't post again. I got it on Amazon, Rymmes 45lb gun magnet set. For some reason it seems the reply w/ link to the product keeps disappearing. Or at least it looks that way to me.
After the “hello” beginning comment & it’s style, I naturally began to expect him to start walking over to a bench & closet to change his shoes & put on a light sweater jacket while he started to sing 🎶 “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood…” or some Mike Glover variation 😉👏.
Typically we (people of the inner city) keep the blicky between the seat and the console while spinning the block for some ops. The draw is quick enough since the equipped extends to assist in preventing it from sliding too deep to grab. Great advice to try out.
Also those vz operator grips have eat the side of the shift tower on my little cruz where I keep one inches from my hand….I mean if a mans gonna carry I wanna be the first to the party when that time comes…thanks mike man your the best dude …all you real combaters just are glad to be alive n free…
If you are carrying appendix while wearing a seatbelt, you underestimate the intestinal damage that will occur if you are involved in an accident. Your chances of an accident are much higher than your need to deploy your weapon. Look for an alternative that will work for you while you are mobile. Stay safe.
That is correct, there is such a risk. But the point of the video is not which position is safer in an accident. The point is to compare all the existing options in an external threat scenario. In case of a bad accident, your gun in the bag will fly out and can hit on the head not only you, but also your children in the back seat. And so can your coffee mug or any other heavy object in the car. As for the reaction to an external attacker, a draw from an appendix position, IMHO, is still faster than from a bag in the passenger seat.
I mounted a holster onto my consul in my Jeep Wrangler at my side. I also have an extra mag for my Sig P365XL. IF SHTF it's in my hand and ready to fight quickly. It works for me if I'm seated. In my house my weapon is at my side always. End table, or nightstand.
The other thing I worry about when driving or having my riffle next to me or bag on the seat. (Didn’t finish the video running to work right now) if I get in an accident, or someone drives into my car on purpose. If it’s on passenger seat ground while I’m driving I may not be able to get to it.
Did similar test some yrs ago and for me off body for sure. After entering vehicle unholster from primary on body and reholster to secondary holster mounted directly under steering wheel. There are sweeping yourself considerations you need to train around but very doable.
I feel like a simple solution was overlooked here. Remove holster from person, and clip it to your seatbelt lap belt on the left side. It's secure, out of the way, not easily visible but easy to (cross) draw. Has the advantage that it's pointing at the driver side window moments after it clears the holster.
Is there a reason you didn’t consider a magnet holder on or under the dash ? I have used this method to great and fast success. Even on bumpy roads I have never had it jump off the magnet and I have never hit it with my leg. In my car it puts it right above my right knee and in some roomier cars you can actually mount it on the steering column. You also can stick the pistol to it vertically or horizontally. We have had times well under the times here.
I had actually thought about but this when I had kids. What I ended up doing originally was screwing holsters all over an old car we had and found what was comfortable . After I found what was comfortable I made a set up that worked for me and mounted it in my truck. I wish I would have thought about bringing my car somewhere to draw and shoot from the spot I was comfortable with .
I will like a video when I choose to do so. I do not believe it is stated inside any manual anywhere on earth that a person must like the video after they have watched it till the end. 😆
As a wrong-handed individual, I find a subcompact in a holster of my front left pocket with an Ulticlip is fast, safe, and convenient. The seat belt is not in the way and the door typically gives more room for draw than a center console would for rightys. If I exit the vehicle, I shift to appendix carry without removing the firearm from the holster.
I installed a holster mounted inside the vehicle. I simply take my firearm off of my body, slide it into the holster mounted in the vehicle and then put it back on when I arrive where I'm going. Wouldn't work for everyone, but it works amazingly well for me. So my setup is similar to his last setup, but hidden much better and more secure.
I use a Harry's Holster OWB holster wedged in the seat/console. The belt loops give it just the right amount of tension to keep the holster in place yet allows easy access to my S&W 9.
With or without a manual safety. With one in the chamber? Hell no. You need to have something that completely covers your trigger guard, regardless of the safety mechanism when carrying with a hot pipe.
Depends on the firearm. Some require some sort of trigger guard, but most modern semiautomatics have a drop safety as a standard feature. Many feature grip safeties plus or minus a trigger safety. So for this scenario with the systems I use, I would have no problem staging my firearm free floating.
I run that Patagonia Atom sling and had the zipper flipped and a peice of plastic with velcro sewn and glued into it. Kydex holster velcros right in. I also added a peice of plastic slightly in tension along the zipper to keep your hand from getting caught when reaching in. The main driver for the bag was vehicle interactions. Works pretty damn good for everything else though too.
I keep my pistol in the same place, always. So without question, muscle memory allows me to instinctively pull it and get on target quickly and accurately... On My Person (strong-side). Note; Those who do lawfully carry, train regularly. Remember this, "failure to train, is training to fail"... because when it counts, you may not get a second chance... and, God forbid, you are ever put into a life threatening situation it's going to matter... it may not only be for your life, but you're freedom as well. So be smart, stay vigilant, and stay safe. God bless you all
Some other suggestions: use a cross draw holsters Bullard Holsters) or a M-TAC Tactical shoulder bag with Sling Strap. There are M-TAC Velcro adjustable holsters that can adjust perfectly to your conceal carry weapon.
Bueno ojalá lo puedas leer esto... considero que cada persona se adapta al uso regular de su arma y se familiariza de acuerdo a su necesidad... veras... yo utilizo el arma a las 12 o a la 1... con un holster oculto no como el holster que tu utilizaste fuera del pantalón... cruzo el cinturón de seguridad x arriba del holster oculto... y la camisa la sacó fuera del cinturón de seguridad... de tal manera que mi camisa cubre el cinturón de seguridad y el arma... si tengo la necesidad de desenfundar solo levanto mi camisa mi accedo al arma... ahora bien x supuesto que incomoda el cinturón de seguridad que va sobre el pecho porque estorba el grip del arma... pero accedo muy rápido... no como tu ejemplo... llevar la cangurera o el bolso en la cintura a la 1 que recomiendas realmente es de fácil acceso... pero se pierde el factor de porte oculto... porque le dices a todos que llevas un arma... es mi punto de vista... te repito cada persona se adapta a esa necesidad utilizar el arma y sobre todo cuenta mucho el lugar donde vives... saludos desde el sur de México
For gun placement in my car I use one of those seat gap organizers that fits snugly between the center console and the passenger's seat. I clip my IWB holster so that the holster and handgun are in the organizer. Don't have to open anything; it's right there. And when I get out of the car I either appendix carry or put it in a sling or fanny pack with a CCW compartment.
FWIW, if I’m going to pull a gun from a bag, it’s not going to be a hand gun. I think that many of the problems described in the video with appendix carry in vehicles either don’t exist in the real world, or are easily overcome by some common sense (e.g. tucking your shirt behind the firearm and seatbelt, etc). IDK, just my 2 cents.
I have a Lexus version of that same truck mike and right below the steering wheel there’s a break between where the wheel moves and the plastic shroud around the steering column. There’s a space just wide enough for the clip of a kydrx holster to fit through to mount a holster right under the steering wheel with the barrel facing forward. So all you have to do is get in, remove your pistol from your body, clip it into the mounted holster which allows very fast access.
Warrior Poet John Lovell, taught me to tuck my seatbelt behind my appendix holster, then free float my tshirt over top. Really easy to access and works. Only takes a second to tuck the belt behind it and off you go, and 1 second to remove the seat belt with situational awareness of course, maybe pulling up in a parking lot, home when neighbors are out etc. The best is that magnet Nick Kum(I already forgot how to spell his name) alatas uses and as he’s about to get out of his vehicle, with situational awareness reholsters. Think about your movements and employ a good strategy guys! Thanks Mike!
Best place my opinion is putting it between your thigh and center console so it is not able to be seen if someone is at your door you have to unbuckle and as you bring your hand forward from belt latch it goes right over that area you can quickly draw bring up in normal manner as if you were opening the door and boom its there in dudes face. And you can easily just transfer your carry gun to the holster set upin the vehicle when get in then put back in ccw holster when get out of the vehicle
Situations awareness is always the key. If you got headphones on or music blasting texting or distracted then you won’t be ready. Since we get videos now of events happening when can see how these situations play out. There are almost always signs
Good vid & nice to see someone who can bring nuance and dare to suggest that being not chambered might make sense for some people in some situations. Sick of people that insist or demand that every person do exactly as they say. When young kids are involved, and they can't rack a slide...having a round chambered is a very different risk than not having it loaded. Lots of other good stuff to consider brought up...I just found a spot in the door that my MnP9c fits tightly into the cup holder. Can draw from there w/o having the holster move. Thanks for bringing these things up.
Don’t have twins but my pistol at the ready in the console cup holder. I’ve also kept it in a holster clipped to the seatbelt…comfortable easy access and I can move the gun to the conceal carry holster
Learn how to use a rivet gun (takes 2 mins) and buy some self adhesive velcro and some black fabric. You can make a very easy to access transmission tunnel holster which is covered so anyone walking past cant see it. I also advocate spare magazines in your door bins and velcro a couple to your trunk lid or just inside the trunk. Again cover with black fabric secured with velcro. Remember you might have to get to this stuff upside down... another good reason to secure stuff with velcro. Also pay attention to knee airbags as these can dislodge firearms stored anywhere under the steering area.
NeoMag Alias setup. Look into it. You can mount and move your holster to a hard mount into the vehicle. Stays stationary and now it's way easier to use. Look into it
You missed one additional options that provides “0” obstructions. I have 2-25 lb. Magnets mounted on the side console just below the dash at my right knee where a 642 S&W sits. The magnets allow me to switch pistols since I sometimes carry a SS P320. I am unlimited as far as firearms that are held in that spot, even a 686 which is considerably heavy. Yes, I prefer a revolver. No safety, no jams, no racking, and always ready.
I'm a big fan of hard mounting a kydex holster inside the center console and storing in there or if you want to wedge taking some velcro on a standard holster and vecroing it between the seat cushions for your firearm to ready access there
I am a newish conceal carry user having no military background struggling with the same problem of strong side IWB vehicle carry. I refuse to carry my gun loose amongst other things for obvious safety concerns. I agree that a Velcro backed full Kydex holster fully protecting the gun trigger is the most safe and effective non-body carry option when situations demand it allowing you to safely carry the gun hot at the ready. I have a similar Velcro hook backed holster that is mounted inside a business looking backpack that has an easy access section that is lined with a rigid backed Velcro loop fabric. Great subject matter!
Check out the Alien Gear core carry pack. One of the features is a mounting plate. Then you have the main holster with a thumb button for retention. I have this mounted under my dash. I can get to it fast, the trigger is totally covered. And if I'm in a crash bad enough for my pistol to come free I'm already dead for sure. I know the modular system isn't for everybody. It's worked well for me though.
I use and gun magnet and rigged up a QD Tether to the firearm in the event of a crash. I carry my p07 cocked and locked as is. So there's an added safety measure there. Then it returns to the appendix holster once I exit the vehicle. Works great for me, had a rollover a couple years ago and the tether setup held up nicely.. just don't make it too long, you don't want all that weight just flying around the cab if you roll your shit.
Wet Okole seat covers offer a neoprene holster for 1 or both front seats. Puts the gun right between your legs pointed at the floor and very accessible.
Thanks, Mike. I always consider what could happen in an accident when carying in my car. In my SUV, everything in back is tied down in case we roll over, I don’t want my fubar bashing me and my kids in the head and I certainly don’t want my gun flying around with one in the chamber. For that reason, my pistol comes out from IWB and into the center console, clipped to s heavy strap I made. Every car is different, so I think the only solution is to go custom. In the event of a crash or roll over, the center console lid will keep my firearm from coming out of the holster. With this setup, I have staged access, as does my passenger if needed. I make the compromise of having to put it back in my waistband while inside the car, but that works for me. In other vehicles I have my backpack on the passenger seat staged just like you showed, only mine is holstered.
I have a Land Cruiser, you can mount a holster on the plastic covering the steering column. Pop off the panel, drill some pilot holes and use some nuts n bolts. Shim the top of the holster so you can get your hand around the grip. I just used some cardboard. It's not fancy but it's functional, concealed, and quickly accessible.
My favorite vehicle carry method is attaching my pistol to strong magnets beneath the steering wheel. I use two magnets for a more secure attachment to the steering column and I have a trigger cover that is tied off to the steering column with a lanyard, which pulls the trigger cover off of the pistol as I pull the pistol away from the magnetic mount. This provides quick and unobstructed access to the pistol regardless of seatbelts, clothing, etc. It also complies with open carry requirements if you do not have a CCW permit, technically. Check with your particular state laws regarding this.
Dual wielding while driving with knees was not discussed, but addressing the friendless, single, and lonely was super helpful!
I fit that script to a tee….$5g gas ain’t helpin
I drive with my knee sometimes, but if I had to use a gun an do it, I'll take an AR pistol, over dual pistols hahaha
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yea harsh
Feel obligated to second that.
Question: If say, hypothetically, I was "single" and "lonely" do you think there would be a tactical advantage to carrying a suppressed pistol, concealed, in the appendix position? Hypothetically.
This needs an answer. For my friends, not me. Totally not me. Just helping friends.
@@Absquatulationist for pure scientific research purposes
You win comment of the day sir lol
Ask Clint Eastwood, they didn't call him dirty Harry for nothing. Buy yourself a 357 😂
Definitely an advantage for females, not necessarily a tactical one though.
When I was 17 someone attempted to carjack me, or just kill me, I dont know. I saw him walking down the sidewalk towards my truck in my rearview and for some reason I put it in first gear because something just felt off. He walked up on passenger side and said "whats up dog" and immediately drew a pistol and started firing. Luckily my window was only 3-4" down and he was an idiot who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Being 17 I didn't have a pistol so I just tore out of there like a bat outta hell.
Because of this I keep my pistol in my iwb holster, wedged between driver and center seat at all times. You're correct we're not in Baghdad, but man, it can happen anywhere and at any time. I will say, however, that even now and with a pistol next to me I would've been toast if he could aim, there was no time at all.
Damn, where was that so I don't go there😅
@@donnyreynoso6465 Happens all the time in Chicago.
@@somebb You were great in Barbarosa
@@thisismagacountry1318 You were great in Narcos.
@@somebb happens allot in nyc. Just as much, police are just... hush hush.
As a police officer my favorite way to carry in a vehicle was a small frame revolver in an ankle holster. Once seated for my trip I always pulled my pant leg up just over the gun. Extremely quick with little movement. My revolver was on the inside of my left leg and easy to access with my right hand.. maybe old school but when I was getting hired the semi autos where just becoming popular with law enforcement. I was even able to unholster it keep it close to my body and slide it up inside my jacket and under my left armpit as someone approached my vehicle without the firearm being noticed. I used this method one time and my partner didn’t even notice me do it as a very disturbed individual ran up to our auto.
I almost got car jacked. Dude walked past me and made a B line to my blind spot on the passenger side. It’s because of videos like this I was ahead of the curve and saw him and just drove away. Thank you 🙏🏼
@Darren Bates you’re right. But I’m only pullin as my final option. Everyone is responsible for there own protection.
Uhhh LOCKED doors?!
@@m118lr My windows were open. Its 90 degrees where I live
Know the feeling. I had to use a drive up ATM late one night, scanning the area around the bank. While collecting funds a man approached from the blindside on the passenger side. My Shepard saw him fist and probably saved me. I had my dogs 🐶 6. Getting my 45 the game. His Hands went up and started walking backwards away from the car.
@@kenwilson4775 Nice. Mans best friend for a reason. How big was your shepherd?
Two big ones missing, the old school shoulder holster and kydex mounted inside the center console. Both of those allow you to have the gun in the event of a wreck, and prevent you from flagging your legs on the draw. Car carry is one of the scenarios where shoulder holsters actually make sense.
my question is how quick is drawing from the cup holder in a center console, I carry my p365 in a kydex holster in that position
Magnet mounted to console works great
Holster that pistol on the sun visor unless you have a hand cannon
@@Harvesttimebluegrassgospel my dad has that magnet right above foot pedal
You would never know it’s there
@@Berserker-lw6kd is that legal we can’t do that here unless you have CWP license
The weapon should be secured in place so in the event of a hard brake, collision or roll over, so you will know where to find the pistol as you recover from the situation.
a safari land holster mounted in a spot that won't break easily
Alien gear car mounts. There's a bunch of different setups out there. Just depends what you want to do.
The FBI Miami/Dade shootout proved the importance of securing
a firearm. 👍🇺🇸
Bro, do you even combat drive?
One of your weapons should be secued.
“No, you’re not sitting at home on the couch with the pistol iwb”
Um, yes I am.
Yup, like Al Bundy
That was my thought.
Yeah, I was pondering that statement, too! I got kids and have seen enough home invasion videos to know that there’s not always time to get to the “secured” piece on the mantle when the door is rushed by multiple assailants. Better safe than sorry.
Yup same here if i am out of bed its in my waistband (driving i have a separate spot for it though)
Yes I still am
Your key point about training with different perspectives at the end there, reaches farther than just training, but all knowledge and education. Warren Buffet said, "knowledge is like wealth, it compounds". Great video, man.
A kydex trigger guard "minimalist holster" tied to the inside of the bag would allow for you to carry safely with one in the chamber while "loose" in the bag
Stinger Magnetic Gun Holder mounted to the left side of the console under the dash puts it by my right knee. Or under the dash just above the right knee. VERY secure, out of sight, easy and quick access. It was easy to mount and works like a charm. 20 year LEO, it works for me.
Aren’t car manufacturers regularly putting airbags under the dash for your knees/legs now? I know my F-150 has them, guessing Ford isn’t the only one doing it. I’d think that would pose a pretty significant problem.
Not in florida. No magnet mount
When I worked undercover in a vehicle I found a crossdraw holster to
work well. When flying aircraft a shoulder holster
worked well. The shoulder holster is a form of crossdraw. 👍😊🇺🇸
You use one of the TRUSS holsters? Someone recommended it to me for flying but I haven't heard any other recommendations.
@@jamesholmes6900 I have used many different kinds of holsters.
For striker type pistols I feel
Kydex holsters are safer. Before
retiring from my flight career I
carried a shoulder holster from
(if I am correct from Jack Ass
Holsters in leather with a 1911).
We had been authorized to carry
1911s. In my experience kydex
holsters seem to have less drag
than other materials when drawing
the firearm quickly. I have used
several We The People Holsters
with success. However, there are
several manufactures of quality
kydex holsters!👍😊🇺🇸
Haha! “This isn’t Baghdad” - I-15 sometimes feels like it
I have recently begun to pre stage my pistol that I carry AIWB when I drive because I had this exact scenario explained to me and I knew I needed to do better
I like that you are smart enough not to carry a striker-fired pistol with a short trigger pull and no manual safety floqting around loose. I am always amazed how many people can't see the issue with that.
Carrying a striker-fired pistol with a short trigger pull and no manual safety doesn’t make you dumb. Often, when people have a misfire or accidental towards themselves you’ll often learn it’s negligence. Many, when they draw may flag themselves, have a sloppy draw, or don’t practice their draw often. Striker-fired pistols just don’t go off and don’t have a history of doing so within the past 15 years, especially. A short trigger pull? That’s because someone dropped those triggers in there, striker’s don’t come with short trigger pulls by default and usually are a 2.5-3 second trigger pull with at least 3-6 pds of pressure required. The reason why there isn’t a manual safety is because it’s designed to allow you to draw with snagging your clothes or holster when conceal carrying. The safety is often in two places within a striker-fired. 1. Inside often by or around the striker and 2. In the trigger itself. There simply isn’t a lot of cases of people shootings themselves or others accidentally with strikers.
@@LanternEnergy he specified floating around like in a bag.
What are you talking about? Striker fired pistols don't just go off. If it does that pistol is 15-20 years old. Also, what does floating around loose have to do with anything? I carry chambered at all times, and not one of my guns has a safety. Me: Draw my pistol and fire. You: Grab your pistol, take it off safety, chamber round-RIP....
@@MattyB7 Floating around loose in a bag? It’s still the same issue as I stated. You don’t have stories of striker fired pistols just going off loose in a bag either! Most people consciously aren’t going to put anything in the bag or area where the striker pistol is located.
@@LanternEnergy if that is the case sure but if there are things in the bag theres a risk. Either way there is still a risk doing that.
I just have a Safariland QLS clip mounted to my center console so I can take the Safariland holster off my range belt and mount it inside my truck. It goes with me everywhere via appendix, but I make long drives frequently and it's nice to have it stored and secure, but with easy access if need be.
I did the same thing. Plus my wife didn’t like that I had a loose gun in the truck with 2 kids QLS clip solved that one
@@natelow4989 I can't stand those stupid magnet mounts. GuD EnOuGh FoR mE, sure, until your gun flies around your truck in an accident. "Your car is not a holster" seems to fall on deaf ears frequently. I like the idea of a Level 3 retention holster, that's also at waistband distance, but is permanently secured to my truck.
What do you do in the event that you're pulled over by police? This is something that was never mentioned in the video and I'm wondering how most officers would react to seeing the firearm so easily accessible. I guess it depends on where you live to how they would react
@@TonyAlvestad I don't do a damn thing. It's in my center console, which I can also lock. I don't have to report that I'm carrying a firearm, but am required to answer if I am asked here in Minnesota.
@@TonyAlvestad Any time you get pulled over please roll down ALL windows and put both hands up where the cop can see them. Do not try and reach for your license or registration until asked to do so (the cop walking up does not know what your are reaching for or hiding). At night please turn on the interior light. If the weapon can be seen from outside the car let the cop know right away. if the weapon is concealed I wouldn't tell him. If the weapon is concealed where you keep your license and reg tell the cop before you reach. If you don't and he/she sees a gun thing will get real tense real fast.
Most of these work until you get into a fender bender and everything ends up on the floor. A hard mounted holster would solve this. And a lockbox if you have to leave the gun in the car
Yup, I just leave it on me. I personally don’t like the idea of car holsters. If I absolutely have to I’ll lock it in my truck. Leaving loaded guns un-attended in vehicles is stupid and your just giving your gun to bad people.
For appendix carry; Shirt goes over the lap belt, placing the lap belt along the same line as my actual belt. This makes the draw the almost the same as a seated appendix draw(albeit a bit more reclined in a sedan). Takes less than 10 seconds to do and has become a part of the same unconscious motion as putting on the seatbelt itself.
All fun and games until a crash ruptures your bladder or some shit carrying appendix in a vehicle
Same here, I do the same exact thing every time
1+ to this. I've only been carrying appendix for maybe a couple months at this point, but I'm finally getting this committed to muscle memory. Reps ftw.
Same. No complaints.
I use the same technique and was wondering why it isn’t readily mentioned.
A good discussion that gets you to think about your setup. Raven Concealment has a trigger guard that can be used to tether to the inside of a bag or even attached to the inside of the vehicle if your're concerned with something getting into the trigger well and possibly creating a discharge.
Mike is such an intelligent man, a true American gem. I’ve been watching him for years. Respect. When he wore Glock… he always had one in the pipe.
Now that he switched to Sig…
After buckling my seat belt I lift my shirt, shift the lap belt between the holster and stomach, then let my shirt drop over it. It works for my appendix carry. Also some states (WA) require you to have the firearm directly on your person if loaded in the vehicle. I used to wedge the holster between the seat and center console until I took 911 Academy's multi state carry course. As a law enforcement instructor at Burien and having served as an expert witness in many court cases he covered some uncommon knowledge!
Used to live in WA and have never seen that law. Do you have a reference?
@@CAAAAAish I'm attaching a link for you. The gentleman that teaches the multi carry and i1639 course is or was a law enforcement instructor at the Burien law enforcement academy. He was also an expert witness and has seen the inside of a courtroom many times. There are tons of BS laws and ways to interpret them and this is one of those. Be careful! It could depend on who your law enforcement officer happens to be!
@@CAAAAAish the link keeps getting blocked or deleted. Look up RCW 9.41.050
The import part is "(i) The pistol is on the licensee's person...". The man made this point very clear. Just my opinion, but the places in WA you need to carry the most tend to be liberal and aren't friendly to the 2A.
I use Alien Gear Shapeshift holster with the Driver Defense set up. It is extremely fast, it's secure, and it draws very naturally. The holster sits between your legs attached to your seat. You can then move the holster from seat to OWB carry in less than 10 secs.
I also like this concept. I Find my holster of the same model, with the paddle holster attachment, I can put the paddle between the plastic and fabric of the seat and it locks tight.. Draw is the same as if on my waist. :)
Answer: The turret
LOL, remote Ma Duce...
I always drove the warthog 😂
I use an Alien Gear "Shapeshift Driver Defense Holster" and am very pleased with it. The holster is located at the edge of the drivers seat right between my knees. The weapon is secure and I have very easy access. I have practiced so it is an easy draw. The only negative, from the video, is I take my firearm out of appendix carry and put into the vehicle holster (or vice versa) ever time I enter or exit my vehicle.
I run my gun in my car either between my seat and console with the holster or a "go magnet" mounted under the steering wheel.
If you've ever been in a car accident then you'd know that appendix carry under a seat belt would do some real abdominal/hernia damage in an accident.
Got rear ended once and felt like the gun was going to rupture my spleen.
Sounds like another reason to stage the seatbelt under the gun
This is something I have not previously considered so thank you for addressing it. Looks like I need to find a safer way to stage during long commutes and road trips. However, I’d still plan to appendix carry for daily use. But then the same safety concern applies…a lot to think about.
I was appendix carrying when I was in an accident that threw my car 150 feet. I carry with the seatbelt placed under the holster. The seatbelt did the normal damage it does as in it was bruised all the way across but by placing the seatbelt under my holster it didn’t cause extra damage. It also makes drawing if needed faster.
So I would say if you’re appendix carrying while in a car ALWAYS put the seatbelt under the holster. I’m glad that’s my SOP!
@@patrickmcgee6309 how do you get the seatbelt under an AIWB holster inside your pants?
OK, several points: You are in an SUV (I everyday drive a 2006 Duramax 2500) so you have an elevated view = very good, you can see traffic ahead and potential threats over other vehicles; the bag is a good sale point, but an awkward place to reach for a gun (in a sharp deceleration it usually ends up on the floor); an excellent (zero cost) option is to put some work/tactical gloves (always handy) in the door cubby holder and then place your handgun (inverted) on top...this keeps the damn thing from rattling around the plastic bin and DRIVING YOU NUTZOID! Works for me.
What a great video! It definitely served its purpose. I do see some comments picking some of it apart. You didn’t state it was going to be the sure all to the set up for vehicle carry. The reason it was the best vehicle carry video I have seen so far is this. It was about questioning what I was doing right now. I have worked on my home set as well as how I EDC. I have been thinking about when I am in my vehicle or even a passenger in some one else’s. I have to admit I hadn’t found anything I was confident in or liked yet. You had some great ideas and ignited my commitment to finding the right set up for myself. I had not really worked that hard to finding a solution. I think I was hoping it would just come to me maybe. Thank you for the ideas and educating us why it’s important and some of the practical things to consider! I am subscribing right now to your channel! Big thanks, it’s appreciated!
Man, this is so timely. Thank you for going through this with us. I was just asking myself the questions you answered 👍
Great video. 12:33 "have a separate pistol" ... and spare mag(s). When you leave the vehicle, put it in a lock box. EDC stays on your person at all times.
Magnet mounts are just a temporary display device until you’re in an accident and your weapon becomes the projectile.
Ohhhhhhhh, thank you - must be taken into consideration!
Actually that would depend on how strong of a magnet is being used and where the magnet has been set up
Someone I know uses the G-code vehicle mount system and has it mounted below the ignition infront of them inside of a G-code XST holster mounted to an RTI mount. On the Ronin belt they use they have the G-code hip ride with single strap so the firearm is readily accessible and has lvl 2 retention inside the XST which if needed can be swapped over to the ronin belt. They keep a haley incog in the vehicle so when they get out they take that and the pistol in it appendix. This has easily been the best setup for safety accessibility speed and ease of use for that individual.
The most ludicrous car setup I use to do in the wintertime while doing my part time delivery is Appendix carry g17 with baldr pro light & 30round mag. Bad areas. Usually 43x though most of the time lol
I winced in pain reading this.
Lol, anytime I carried my g17 I realize how big of a mistake that was 😂
Sig p365 has won me over and my g17 is retired to home defense only.
@@F80mthree im 6’4 280lbs so g17 easy carry for me
I actually do appendix carry while sitting on the couch watching TV. Great info though, I love your content. Thank you for doing what you do.
I am right handed and wear my sidearm at the 9:30. Just as fast as appendix, seatbelt does not interfere. Easier draw all around. I drive up to 10 hours a day.
That’s one of those positions that’s especially suited to driving and horseback riding.
Cross draw! Like the good ole days
My 18' GMC Sierra 2500 has a perfect pocket next to the console right next to your right leg. Fits my X-Compact and holster perfectly. I go right from my appendix straight to the pocket in the console.
Had me laughing when he said. I'm not just gonna have it at the ready driving down the road. I just picture someone doing that 😆 just ready to go
Here goes.... Long before their were plate carriers..... I carried a SW model 65 as my duty weapon in a clam shell holster that was modified to be on my hip, drawing from a seated position was slow and somewhat difficult, when working plain clothes with the SOS unit I was introduced to the shoulder holster, east to remove sidearm when seated and could get to the sidearm with either hand, really liked it. For some reason some "Gun guys" think moving your sidearm to a position in the car is a bad thing, I really don't know why. Practical operation is always the best teacher. Keep up the good work MG.
I carry my pistol held by one of those ridiculously strong magnets mounted under the dash by the cup holders. From the street/outside view you'll never see it without very deliberate searching and aid of a light. From inside, it is extremely quick access and holds remarkably secure. I've run all over my ranch, off road, bouncing around over obstacles and it has yet to drop, move, or pop loose. My ONLY concern is IF I get pulled over and a jumpy cop sees it in "plain view" they may get a little pissy. But I'm willing to risk it and make my interactions with police polite and as comfortable for them as possible.
What brand of magnet and mount is it?
Where did you get the magnet? I like this idea
@@alphabettheo3580 jic the link doesn't post again. I got it on Amazon, Rymmes 45lb gun magnet set. For some reason it seems the reply w/ link to the product keeps disappearing. Or at least it looks that way to me.
@@thisismagacountry1318 Rymmes 45lb gun magnet from Amazon. Not sure if the link will post on the reply. It keeps disappearing after I post the reply.
After the “hello” beginning comment & it’s style, I naturally began to expect him to start walking over to a bench & closet to change his shoes & put on a light sweater jacket while he started to sing 🎶 “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood…” or some Mike Glover variation 😉👏.
Typically we (people of the inner city) keep the blicky between the seat and the console while spinning the block for some ops. The draw is quick enough since the equipped extends to assist in preventing it from sliding too deep to grab. Great advice to try out.
On the mf gang. Big glizzy riding shotgun
But if you want to have it legally, many states require that it is encased while in your vehicle.
@@somebb Tell that to the criminals.
@@somebb very true, however, i would find it too difficult to throw out of the window in case of an emergency
@@mikemiller551 you will be the criminal if you don't follow the law
Also those vz operator grips have eat the side of the shift tower on my little cruz where I keep one inches from my hand….I mean if a mans gonna carry I wanna be the first to the party when that time comes…thanks mike man your the best dude …all you real combaters just are glad to be alive n free…
It would be great to see how a left handed armed person can deal with a volatile confrontation in a vehicle.
i made a holster attachment to my truck door. granted it means puting holes in your inside side panel but your guns always at the ready
@@stephentillman1076 Better holes in the vehicle door than holes in you. Do what you have to do to get the advantage/survive. 😉😁
Mike Glover is so practical and tactically wise!
If you are carrying appendix while wearing a seatbelt, you underestimate the intestinal damage that will occur if you are involved in an accident. Your chances of an accident are much higher than your need to deploy your weapon. Look for an alternative that will work for you while you are mobile. Stay safe.
not if you live in brazil lmao. I just keep it under my left leg though.
Good point! 🙏
Just put the seatbelt behind the gun, no?
I've often wondered about this
That is correct, there is such a risk. But the point of the video is not which position is safer in an accident. The point is to compare all the existing options in an external threat scenario. In case of a bad accident, your gun in the bag will fly out and can hit on the head not only you, but also your children in the back seat. And so can your coffee mug or any other heavy object in the car. As for the reaction to an external attacker, a draw from an appendix position, IMHO, is still faster than from a bag in the passenger seat.
I mounted a holster onto my consul in my Jeep Wrangler at my side. I also have an extra mag for my Sig P365XL. IF SHTF it's in my hand and ready to fight quickly. It works for me if I'm seated. In my house my weapon is at my side always. End table, or nightstand.
The other thing I worry about when driving or having my riffle next to me or bag on the seat. (Didn’t finish the video running to work right now) if I get in an accident, or someone drives into my car on purpose. If it’s on passenger seat ground while I’m driving I may not be able to get to it.
Did similar test some yrs ago and for me off body for sure. After entering vehicle unholster from primary on body and reholster to secondary holster mounted directly under steering wheel. There are sweeping yourself considerations you need to train around but very doable.
“This isn’t Baghdad.” Chicago would like to have a word
Great video. I drive a MINI COOPER S, R56 chassis. Defitnitly a challege. Great points dropped Mike. Keep posting.
I feel like a simple solution was overlooked here.
Remove holster from person, and clip it to your seatbelt lap belt on the left side.
It's secure, out of the way, not easily visible but easy to (cross) draw.
Has the advantage that it's pointing at the driver side window moments after it clears the holster.
I like this, but what about airbags?
That's wasting so much time. I can't imagine having a bunch of errands to do, and then doing this idiot shit.
I love your truck. It only misses some bulletholes 😂 kids and guns always my problem. They find everything wherever you hide it lol. Tnx for video
How do you make yourself more tacticool? You put a suppressor cover on your pistol. I have literally never seen anyone do that. That's epic.
Excellent knowledge. Your bags, weapons, are most appropriate. Thank you.
Is there a reason you didn’t consider a magnet holder on or under the dash ? I have used this method to great and fast success. Even on bumpy roads I have never had it jump off the magnet and I have never hit it with my leg. In my car it puts it right above my right knee and in some roomier cars you can actually mount it on the steering column. You also can stick the pistol to it vertically or horizontally. We have had times well under the times here.
Where is this legal? Here in Florida you need to have it encased while in your vehicle unless it is concealed on yourself.
Legal in Texas
@@TheMadShredder Everything is legal in Texas lol
@@somebb as far as gun laws hell yes. God Bless Texas
I had actually thought about but this when I had kids. What I ended up doing originally was screwing holsters all over an old car we had and found what was comfortable . After I found what was comfortable I made a set up that worked for me and mounted it in my truck. I wish I would have thought about bringing my car somewhere to draw and shoot from the spot I was comfortable with .
I love how people will immediately like a video obviously before they have even had the time to watch it. Lol
Love the content keep it coming...
@@Fullyautomagic but why like it at all before you actually like it? Makes no sense. Is it a race to like it before anyone else?
Cuz I'll forget later. Hit the like to support channel if I don't like the content I'll change it at the end.
I will like a video when I choose to do so. I do not believe it is stated inside any manual anywhere on earth that a person must like the video after they have watched it till the end. 😆
@@jnew417 ahhh okay you probably like a gun before you've had a chance to shoot it as well. I understand 👍🏻
@@jamiesteckler5745 A firearms appeal is usually what leads me to want to shoot it so yes. Carry on.
As a wrong-handed individual, I find a subcompact in a holster of my front left pocket with an Ulticlip is fast, safe, and convenient. The seat belt is not in the way and the door typically gives more room for draw than a center console would for rightys. If I exit the vehicle, I shift to appendix carry without removing the firearm from the holster.
"this target was about 100 meters from the car" 😂😂
NOT!
Ty Mike im old Daytona boy also had bail bond company and pawnshop in Daytona and deland much respect brother
I just gotta say, props to you for making what should be a 30 second video into 17 minutes 😂😂
I installed a holster mounted inside the vehicle. I simply take my firearm off of my body, slide it into the holster mounted in the vehicle and then put it back on when I arrive where I'm going. Wouldn't work for everyone, but it works amazingly well for me. So my setup is similar to his last setup, but hidden much better and more secure.
never store a gun loose (wedged or in a bag) in a car. A sudden stop (maybe caused by perp) will make it go flying
I use a Harry's Holster OWB holster wedged in the seat/console. The belt loops give it just the right amount of tension to keep the holster in place yet allows easy access to my S&W 9.
Would you recommend storing a free-floating firearm if it has no manual safety, for example, in this scenario?
With or without a manual safety. With one in the chamber? Hell no. You need to have something that completely covers your trigger guard, regardless of the safety mechanism when carrying with a hot pipe.
Depends on the firearm. Some require some sort of trigger guard, but most modern semiautomatics have a drop safety as a standard feature. Many feature grip safeties plus or minus a trigger safety. So for this scenario with the systems I use, I would have no problem staging my firearm free floating.
I run that Patagonia Atom sling and had the zipper flipped and a peice of plastic with velcro sewn and glued into it. Kydex holster velcros right in. I also added a peice of plastic slightly in tension along the zipper to keep your hand from getting caught when reaching in. The main driver for the bag was vehicle interactions. Works pretty damn good for everything else though too.
I keep my pistol in the same place, always. So without question, muscle memory allows me to instinctively pull it and get on target quickly and accurately... On My Person (strong-side).
Note; Those who do lawfully carry, train regularly. Remember this, "failure to train, is training to fail"... because when it counts, you may not get a second chance... and, God forbid, you are ever put into a life threatening situation it's going to matter... it may not only be for your life, but you're freedom as well. So be smart, stay vigilant, and stay safe. God bless you all
Some other suggestions: use a cross draw holsters Bullard Holsters) or a M-TAC Tactical shoulder bag with Sling Strap. There are M-TAC Velcro adjustable holsters that can adjust perfectly to your conceal carry weapon.
All the free float option are inherently dangerous, it should at least have a no retention kydex you slip off. Trigger guard is not protected.
Great ideas to consider for each individual’s situation
Bueno ojalá lo puedas leer esto... considero que cada persona se adapta al uso regular de su arma y se familiariza de acuerdo a su necesidad... veras... yo utilizo el arma a las 12 o a la 1... con un holster oculto no como el holster que tu utilizaste fuera del pantalón... cruzo el cinturón de seguridad x arriba del holster oculto... y la camisa la sacó fuera del cinturón de seguridad... de tal manera que mi camisa cubre el cinturón de seguridad y el arma... si tengo la necesidad de desenfundar solo levanto mi camisa mi accedo al arma... ahora bien x supuesto que incomoda el cinturón de seguridad que va sobre el pecho porque estorba el grip del arma... pero accedo muy rápido... no como tu ejemplo... llevar la cangurera o el bolso en la cintura a la 1 que recomiendas realmente es de fácil acceso... pero se pierde el factor de porte oculto... porque le dices a todos que llevas un arma... es mi punto de vista... te repito cada persona se adapta a esa necesidad utilizar el arma y sobre todo cuenta mucho el lugar donde vives... saludos desde el sur de México
For gun placement in my car I use one of those seat gap organizers that fits snugly between the center console and the passenger's seat. I clip my IWB holster so that the holster and handgun are in the organizer. Don't have to open anything; it's right there. And when I get out of the car I either appendix carry or put it in a sling or fanny pack with a CCW compartment.
FWIW, if I’m going to pull a gun from a bag, it’s not going to be a hand gun. I think that many of the problems described in the video with appendix carry in vehicles either don’t exist in the real world, or are easily overcome by some common sense (e.g. tucking your shirt behind the firearm and seatbelt, etc). IDK, just my 2 cents.
I have a Lexus version of that same truck mike and right below the steering wheel there’s a break between where the wheel moves and the plastic shroud around the steering column. There’s a space just wide enough for the clip of a kydrx holster to fit through to mount a holster right under the steering wheel with the barrel facing forward. So all you have to do is get in, remove your pistol from your body, clip it into the mounted holster which allows very fast access.
Perfect! Direct and to the Point. Great Editing. Thank you
Warrior Poet John Lovell, taught me to tuck my seatbelt behind my appendix holster, then free float my tshirt over top. Really easy to access and works. Only takes a second to tuck the belt behind it and off you go, and 1 second to remove the seat belt with situational awareness of course, maybe pulling up in a parking lot, home when neighbors are out etc.
The best is that magnet Nick Kum(I already forgot how to spell his name) alatas uses and as he’s about to get out of his vehicle, with situational awareness reholsters. Think about your movements and employ a good strategy guys!
Thanks Mike!
Lol...Im a weirdo I guess, but I do carry IWB at home sitting on the couch. It goes on in the morning and stays there till bedtime.
Fanny pack is very good method!!! Good video!!!👍🇺🇸
Best place my opinion is putting it between your thigh and center console so it is not able to be seen if someone is at your door you have to unbuckle and as you bring your hand forward from belt latch it goes right over that area you can quickly draw bring up in normal manner as if you were opening the door and boom its there in dudes face. And you can easily just transfer your carry gun to the holster set upin the vehicle when get in then put back in ccw holster when get out of the vehicle
On your waist. Drove cross county appendix and 4oclock. Train both ways as well.
Situations awareness is always the key. If you got headphones on or music blasting texting or distracted then you won’t be ready. Since we get videos now of events happening when can see how these situations play out. There are almost always signs
I appreciate the, “I can do this and look cool” while sounding the complete opposite of cool
Good vid & nice to see someone who can bring nuance and dare to suggest that being not chambered might make sense for some people in some situations. Sick of people that insist or demand that every person do exactly as they say. When young kids are involved, and they can't rack a slide...having a round chambered is a very different risk than not having it loaded. Lots of other good stuff to consider brought up...I just found a spot in the door that my MnP9c fits tightly into the cup holder. Can draw from there w/o having the holster move. Thanks for bringing these things up.
Don’t have twins but my pistol at the ready in the console cup holder.
I’ve also kept it in a holster clipped to the seatbelt…comfortable easy access and I can move the gun to the conceal carry holster
I use a magnet mount under the dash
Learn how to use a rivet gun (takes 2 mins) and buy some self adhesive velcro and some black fabric. You can make a very easy to access transmission tunnel holster which is covered so anyone walking past cant see it. I also advocate spare magazines in your door bins and velcro a couple to your trunk lid or just inside the trunk. Again cover with black fabric secured with velcro. Remember you might have to get to this stuff upside down... another good reason to secure stuff with velcro. Also pay attention to knee airbags as these can dislodge firearms stored anywhere under the steering area.
NeoMag Alias setup. Look into it. You can mount and move your holster to a hard mount into the vehicle. Stays stationary and now it's way easier to use. Look into it
You missed one additional options that provides “0” obstructions. I have 2-25 lb. Magnets mounted on the side console just below the dash at my right knee where a 642 S&W sits. The magnets allow me to switch pistols since I sometimes carry a SS P320. I am unlimited as far as firearms that are held in that spot, even a 686 which is considerably heavy. Yes, I prefer a revolver. No safety, no jams, no racking, and always ready.
I'm a big fan of hard mounting a kydex holster inside the center console and storing in there or if you want to wedge taking some velcro on a standard holster and vecroing it between the seat cushions for your firearm to ready access there
important topic. thank you for all the work and then sharing.
I am a newish conceal carry user having no military background struggling with the same problem of strong side IWB vehicle carry. I refuse to carry my gun loose amongst other things for obvious safety concerns. I agree that a Velcro backed full Kydex holster fully protecting the gun trigger is the most safe and effective non-body carry option when situations demand it allowing you to safely carry the gun hot at the ready. I have a similar Velcro hook backed holster that is mounted inside a business looking backpack that has an easy access section that is lined with a rigid backed Velcro loop fabric. Great subject matter!
Check out the Alien Gear core carry pack. One of the features is a mounting plate. Then you have the main holster with a thumb button for retention. I have this mounted under my dash. I can get to it fast, the trigger is totally covered. And if I'm in a crash bad enough for my pistol to come free I'm already dead for sure. I know the modular system isn't for everybody. It's worked well for me though.
I use and gun magnet and rigged up a QD Tether to the firearm in the event of a crash. I carry my p07 cocked and locked as is. So there's an added safety measure there. Then it returns to the appendix holster once I exit the vehicle. Works great for me, had a rollover a couple years ago and the tether setup held up nicely.. just don't make it too long, you don't want all that weight just flying around the cab if you roll your shit.
I wore the fanny pack as a chest rig while camping in the dixie last week. LOVE IT. quick access to all the goodies I stored inside.
Wet Okole seat covers offer a neoprene holster for 1 or both front seats. Puts the gun right between your legs pointed at the floor and very accessible.
As a lefty, most in the car options blow for me.
Thanks, Mike. I always consider what could happen in an accident when carying in my car. In my SUV, everything in back is tied down in case we roll over, I don’t want my fubar bashing me and my kids in the head and I certainly don’t want my gun flying around with one in the chamber. For that reason, my pistol comes out from IWB and into the center console, clipped to s heavy strap I made. Every car is different, so I think the only solution is to go custom. In the event of a crash or roll over, the center console lid will keep my firearm from coming out of the holster. With this setup, I have staged access, as does my passenger if needed. I make the compromise of having to put it back in my waistband while inside the car, but that works for me. In other vehicles I have my backpack on the passenger seat staged just like you showed, only mine is holstered.
Do you seatbelt your bag down?
I have a Land Cruiser, you can mount a holster on the plastic covering the steering column. Pop off the panel, drill some pilot holes and use some nuts n bolts. Shim the top of the holster so you can get your hand around the grip. I just used some cardboard. It's not fancy but it's functional, concealed, and quickly accessible.
An old KGB guy said that they would ride with a pistol laying on the seat under their thigh.
My favorite vehicle carry method is attaching my pistol to strong magnets beneath the steering wheel. I use two magnets for a more secure attachment to the steering column and I have a trigger cover that is tied off to the steering column with a lanyard, which pulls the trigger cover off of the pistol as I pull the pistol away from the magnetic mount. This provides quick and unobstructed access to the pistol regardless of seatbelts, clothing, etc. It also complies with open carry requirements if you do not have a CCW permit, technically. Check with your particular state laws regarding this.
"I had a couple shots off..." LOL!!! I love MG's modesty.
Yea a couple shots off at 100 meters with a handgun...I definitely need to do alot more shooting