Lonzo Ball vs. Markelle Fultz: Who's Better?
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2017
- A budding rivalry has emerged between unique point guards Lonzo Ball and Markelle Fultz. While the entire basketball community argues over who is better, we broke down each aspect of their game to decide who will truly be best over the course of their careers.
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Can you do Chauncey Billups attention to detail? He Had a crazy pull up game
Kj smith man i agree i used to love watching him play, Mr. Big Shot
i loved chauncey's low post game too.
Yo, GREAT vid. But can you do Ball vs Fox? Seems like that's the choice the Lakers will be making at #2. Thanks
Back when this was a debate :/
The Lonzo Ball circlejerk in this comment section is hilarious.
Y'all would be terrible NBA scouts. "Lonzo is better and it's not even close?"
Smh, you guys lmao.
This video, while good intentioned and researched pretty well, was not as well executed as it should have been. Lonzo is marginally worse than Fultz in the areas he is worse in, but with his style of play, I think he'll transition incredibly well. The one thing to worry about - pick and roll play - will come along, as Ball has had little experience with the set at Chino Hills and UCLA.
All that being said, the one problem I had with the video was the glossing over of the defending. That was far too simplistic. Ball has a tendency to get beaten off the dribble; but he is excellent at recovering and patrols the passing lanes well with his length and size. Fultz is not as explosive defensively, but he is a more consistent defender.
Who do I think is more worthy of a #1 slot? Ball. He's marginally worse right now. But the few holes in his game look to be patched up easily, while Fultz looks to be polished and seems to have less to expand upon.
Lonzo is marginally worse than Fultz at finishing in the paint and taking contested jumpers? You gotta be delusional...due to Fultz's ability to make contest shots and finish with various techniques at the rim, pull up from the mid range, even at taking 3s, the two aren't even close. You could argue that Lonzo is better than Fultz at drive and dish and several other things such as surveying the court and directing traffic, but to say Lonzo is marginally worse than Fultz in the areas he is worse in, that would not be a fair assessment.
HoboWithACamera lmao right
HoboWithACamera
Fr bunch of idiots wtf lmao
Lonzo can't shoot the midrange, he's not quick going to the basket, can't pull up at all going right. These are not easy fixes.
Also, what kind of idiocy is that "he's more polished so he has less upside" line of thinking. Fultz can do many things well, he can expand on every one of those and become unstoppable, become a better shooter with training, or a better floor general with added experience. Lonzo has some fatal flaws he won't be able to do much about, unless he brings his damn elbow on the correct side of his face, and he has shown no intention do do so.
are you breaking down any other ballhandling types
fr men, been waiting for the advance momentum ball handlers breakdown
Love your channel man! Your an inspiration for me making my channel ! Thanks ! I like to break things down like you
This is the best basketball channel, thank you for amazing content!
One of the best analyses I've seen.
This is what breaking down of ball players truly means! Watching their film and combining with stats! Not just simply using stats to see whos better! Great work!
Great video Guys!
I think videos showing us certain moves like the euro step, the rocker step, step backs etc in detail could make for more great content. Also, you have the best basketball content on youtube!!
BEEN WAITING ON THIS!!!!!
In what possible way do people still think Lonzo is better than Markelle? It's complete arrogance now if you think Lonzo is a better talent. Washington will do more for Markelle's NBA career than UCLA will do for Lonzo's career. Washington ran an NBA style offense which will transition well for Markelle in the NBA. Lonzo's gonna have to put in some serious work this offseason if he doesn't want people coming at his neck next year, especially if the Lakers draft him. Markelle can hold his own.
Bean Town
Lonzo plays way faster, which will be perfect for him in the next level. Lonzo only gets better, when the game is faster.
Bean Town He's going to be a Knick. I think we can get a Top 3 pick in the lottery
NJB_ 007 lol hopefully Boston takes lonzo #1 and Fultz drops to my Lakers I will die laughing
Jalendiallo Diallo
Lakers will remain garbage af either way, been tanking for fucking years now.
New York Knickerbockers definitely not going to be a Knick... tf
great analysis sir. all the details you have shown are breakdowned great. props on you sir. (sorry for bad english) 😂😂
This video was great, You just got a new subscriber!!
man your videos are amazing
an honest and realistic analysis at last! we like basketball, not social drama!
your channel is great!
lonzo seems more like a pure pg than a flat out natural scorer, despite his huge range.
weirdly, because of that, he might actually be best served if his stock drops, and a team with more talent drafts him; that way, there will be more finishers around him for him to pass to, and more great 1on1 defenders to cover him until he learns decent nba defense.
I love your videos man, they are really helpful. Would you consider doing some more "attention to detail" on old school players. I would love to see one made on prime Grant Hill. Thanks so much for your content bro
This video is incredibly analytical. Good shit
amazing video!!
awesome video!!
Thanks for it !
best video. I feel properly educated on this topic now
Fultz is one of the best young finishers I've seen
yall looking bias on that defense lol
4 reals i legit didn't see any fultz Plays lmao. Bias asf.
+Jumpman Plug I know it seems that way, but there is not much film available, so I had to draw the conclusion without showing much.
By Any Means Basketball makes sense keep the great vids coming
Yeah........ABSOLUTELY I SEEN LONZO PLAY DEFENSE VERY WELL......HE GETS STEALS AND BLOCKS.....HE IS THE BETTER DEFENDER IN MY OPINION although fultz has gotten some blocks.......LONZO IS THE BETTER DEFENDER!
Lma bruh I thought I was the only one 😂😂 no clips??
Cool concept. Which categories do you think are most important? Because prioritizing and weighting the criteria differently could definitely affect who you think is better
Also, I hope you keep making more videos like this!
This aged well...
very detailed and thorough
Awesome breakdown. Cant go wrong with either pick.
All this really depends on is what a team needs, You need someone to bring the team together and lead them, then take Zo. If you want a scoring guard that can do it all, take Fultz it ain't that hard. Let these NBA teams decide, Lonzo and Fultz are both great players with room to grow, you can't compare the two accurately just yet.
I know if Phoenix remains in the Top 2, they're going to take Lonzo for sure!
Kevin Nguyen i agree
Kevin Nguyen lonzo going to Lakers fultz Celtics
agree do you prefer a nba campion or a mvp ?
Great analysis and I love and respect your objectivity. Can you do a breakdown of who would fit better with the lakers, including josh Jackson
Loved the video man. Great work! I'd take Lonzo tho his play making abilities are ridiculous, he makes everyone around him better
+J Mints understandable! It's an apples to oranges things for most people, depending on what type of player you prefer. At least you state your justified opinion respectfully! 😂
If u replace Lonzo with Fultz on UCLA I think they win the tournament, nobody was gonna stop Fultz on that team
Yung Chocolate finally someone who's knows what he talkin about, Lonzo ain't even the 2nd best guard this draft imo, nevermind better then Fultz
i dont think so
Awesome channel
This is a great Video. I completey agree with everything it had to say.
What team in the NBA rn would be best for Lonzo then? Who plays super high paced transition bball? Serious question i can't think of one
pls do a breakdown of Tyler ulis' defense
on ball, off ball, how he gets steals and how he moves so quick
that would be really helpful 🙏
Best channel on UA-cam 💯
Good work! I'd love to see a Josh Jackson vs Jayson Tatum video.
This video summarizes most of the reason I'd much prefer Fultz. He's a super safe pick. His offensive toolbox is too strong for him to fail and when you start out at such a high skill level with athleticism, the sky is the limit. Ball seems to have had a transformational effect at UCLA but I think the coaching staff did a great job of hiding his weaknesses (keeping him largely on the left side of the court, surrounding him with good spacing and athletes, etc.), and being in college helped him as well. At the NBA level teams will force him right and test the jumper (which I have my doubts about).
What's not in the video is that when forced right Ball can still finish and makes great passes, but still I don't think defenses will be afraid of him. He's great in transition, but in a half court NBA situation I don't think it will be easy for him to quarterback the offense. Best case for Ball would be to get drafted by the Celtics or Sixers. Both teams allow him to ease into his NBA role with multiple better players on the team that the opposing team will either be scared of (Embiid, Thomas) or respect (Simmons, Saric, Bradley, Horford). If he ends up in LA or Sacramento (God forbid) he's cooked. Too much responsibility and expectation to be a savior could be death.
Fultz on the other hand can fit in anywhere. Most of Fultz weaknesses are the result of being too talented (lazy/lethargic at times/settling too much) or too curious (trying things that aren't smart in a team context but could help his overall game later). He's the best PG prospect since Wall and has upside to be a better version of Chris Paul.
plss teach us how to jump in the defender,its easy to say but its hard to do .. the key for this is quick jump through the rim ,is there any technique to have a quicker jump "i mean lay up" through the rim ..?
Very good analysis video. Ball may end up being better, but Fultz is a remarkable player as well.
Can you please do a video about great shooters and their mechanics?
I Think this is all about who gets the 1st pick... if lakers do, i'd go with Lonzo because, that seems to be the piece that LA is missing and let's be honest, DeAngelo Russell loves to shoot (even though he's great at the point) , and he could be great at shooting guard and Lonzo could be the one running the offense.
But if Boston gets the first pick, I'd go with Markelle because they already have Thomas that is outstanding at the point and could use a good help at the offensive load that's where Fultz could help them a lot at the two spot.
Great video i subscribed. I feel the exact same way about these two. To me Ball has the potential to be star in the right spot. Like really special lead a team to a championship type stuff. But Fultz is going to be great wherever he goes. His game translates to any system, any style of play. Both should be the top two picks and if I was the Lakers or Twolves and I had the top Pick it would be Ball. But for most other teams it would be Fultz.
Do a video on Kawhi's all around game please and thank you.
Can you do a Manu Ginobili attention to detail? His game has transformed so much over the years and he's such an underrated passer
Marcelle Fultz is a better scorer and better defender when he tries. Keep in mind that he is not able to show his defensive talent because of such a big offensive load he needs to do for Washington which really drains his energy. Lonzo Ball is a better playmaker and has better intangibles but he will struggle scoring at the next level. Although he has shown good shooting percentages, his jumpshot mechanics will cause problems in the NBA because of how long it takes and how much his feet move foward. NBA teams are smart enough to close out. I say Markelle Fultz is better because his scoring and defense. He's also shown good worth ethic because he got cut from his varsity team freshmen and sophomore year and proved the coaches wrong.
Can you do this for Steph and Kyrie, albeit slightly myopic criteria, I would love to see the juxtaposition
This is exactly like the mvp race.Harden has the more consistent and vet filled team so he doesn't have to work as hard.Russ has the 3rd youngest team in the league in the playoffs and assholes say he cares about stats and not winning but okc is 32-9 when he gets a triple double and 13-25 when he doesn't.
Attention to Detail: Tracy McGrady
plz do an attention to detail on the nations leading scorer...Marcus Keene
i don't mind if anyone prefers one or the other, i'm sure the debate can go both ways. but the categories you chose to compare them seem to be a bit random. there's 7 offensive one and only on defensive. no real breakdown of how they defend different stages of the game (transition, pnr, off ball...), awareness, positioning and so on.
What's this instumental called?
I know i'm acting like the knick fan that I am but whenever you get a chance could you do sleepers of 2017 Draft. I ask this hoping Frank Ntilikina is on there.
fultz don't be stupid Lonzo ball is wayy overhyped he had an average season last year
Beansthegod Beasley both are good. 14/7/7 isn't average
que gran video. se ganaron un suscriptor
I love watching Lonzo shoot it just looks dope when his whack release goes in
Never seen that much of Fultz's game, he seems like the real deal though. Great potential at the next level. Ball is just a winner though and I feel he will find a way to become a successful NBA starter for years to come.
If celtics get fultz and lakers get ball it works out perfectly. Celtics don't need a leader who has great court vision. They need a flat out scorer to help IT. Markelle looks like a lillard-type player, except he can be a solid on-ball defender. Ball is a Rondo-esque player, with incredible pace and feel for the floor. He will make the right pass to spur the offense. He is a great backcourt teammate for DeAngelo Russell. I hope Boston gets Fultz with 1 and Lakers get Ball with 2. It might be the next great BOS-LAL rivalry.
Fultz
At their best: Do you want James Harden or Jason Kidd
jazon345 Harden
jazon345 harden
jazon345 harden
jazon345 type of question is that beard is shittin on j kidd
Exactly
does anyone know markelle's kicks at 6:48?
This video is accurate lol
Fultz definitely has less bust potential he will most definitely become an effective player in this shoot first guard type league. But Ball is the one with HOF potential! How often do you see a talented athletic pass first guard in today's NBA? Players like Kidd, Nash, Stockton and CP3 are all time greats because they're team first players who care about winning rather than being selfish like most guards in this league. He can elevate the Lakers from being one of the worst teams in the league to a potential playoffs team next season and playoffs contender in the future
they shouldn't be compared, fultz is a 2 guard, he could become d wade with a jump shot if he puts the time in on defense, the tools are there
No one will never know which one will be better, there's a lot of factor to consider not only talent. Will just wait until they are actually playing in the nba and watch
can you do attention to details on kyrie and curry, and before anyone says he did, he did it for their handles not everything. THX
Fultz is the next James Harden while Lonzo Ball is the next Jason Kidd. If I had choose a PG for my Knicks to pair with Melo and KP, I would choose Lonzo because I think he would make KP and Melo play better
New York Knickerbockers melo gonna be gone beo
Melo won't be at the knicks next season
I.T. Tha Goat lonzo ball the same as kidd except the potential to be a better scorer then kidd ever was
I.T. Tha Goat Melo would hog the basketball if it happen
first of all now they are in the NBA
LONZO CAREER HIGH IS 29 POINTS
FULTZ HAS A CAREER HIGH OF 16 POINTS
LONZOS STATS: 10 points, 5 assists 5 rebounds
fultz stats: 8 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists
lonzo ball also plays much better defense then fultz now.
lonzo ball also has a 3 point percentage of 32.7
fultz has a percentage of 28.6
so that means lonzo ball is better than markelle fultz.
The more detailed the dive, the more it will favor Fultz' well-rounded game. The big questions are whether Ball's strengths, while fewer, are *too* strong to be denied; and whether, at the end of the day, Fultz is good-stats-bad-team or a real star. Either way, it's a real interesting time to be a basketball fan.
Make a video on how to atack the pick and roll
Fultz is the best guard to enter the NBA in a long time.
If anybody actually sits down and watches both of them play Fultz is easily the more NBA ready prospect.
can you make a rebounding video?
I really liked the video I didn't see much of Fultz all I knew was he was a tall PG at Washington who was a good at using the screens and attacking
Fultz is the consensus #1 pick, so this wasn't really a question. A better question is Fox v. Ball, esp. b/c Fox outplayed Ball in both of their head-to-head matchups last season.
He only outplayed Ball once.
UCLA won the 1st matchup, but I'd still say that Fox outplayed Ball, esp. since Ball had 6 TOs that game...
Gr8 video, but u ruined it at the end by saying Ball cld be something we've never seen b4. How do u come to that conclusion after listing his cons?
they essentially did 2 attention to details in 1 video
alright, although the majority of the time i wait till the video is over before i say something, but 4:06 in i had to stop it read some of they recent comments tag to the video to see where it's going. now from what i see it's how it should be not many one word answers but actually explanations to why they think what they think, although some of the comments may be biased they still consider all aspects of the persons game. now although i dont follow it as much and this video popped up in my recommended list it seems to be well put together in the aspect of what is need in a persons game in order to compare these two. so its a great job in part of being made and the responses to the video. now i know that long ass explanation did debate the video and doesnt pertain to it, but i will say this exposure wise lavar is the only reason i know who lonzo and his brothers are because i dont follow that much and markelle which is and awesome name, its spelled a little different but its also my younger brothers name. i got side tracked there but good job on the video, and i really couldnt tell who the better player is cause i literally havent watched of their games even with this breakdown to pick my say. sorry down below if you think im stupid or dumb in not picking a certain person based on this video but you can agree since i like to make informed decisions if im gonna both say and back it up. EVERY DRINK AND BE MARY!!!!! CHARLIE MURPHY!!!!!!
looking back at this, i'd give lonzo the edge on pick & roll and defense, both have improved exponentially since entering the league
Kyle Lowry Next! Also, what type of ball handlers are Steve Nash and Lowry.
Beautiful
Fultz is the better prospect. He's way more polished. The people who are hyper focused on the records of UCLA and Washington are missing what matters... who the better NBA prospect is. Point out a flaw in Fultz game if you can that will be a fatal NBA flaw.
- He can shoot from 3
- He has a smooth looking shot with good mechanics
- He has a deadly array of midrange moves and ways to get open in Iso
- He's a good passer
- He has elite measurables at 6'4 with a 6'10 wingspan
- He runs the pick and roll like a veteran
- He can drive left or right and finish at the rim with his left or right hand
- He has the tools of a top defender
- He's a great athlete
- He plays with good pace
- He can play on ball or off ball and PG or SG
What is he missing? What's the flaw? Ball could be great but he has flaws.
Now u no basketball 🏀🔥🔥🔥💪FACTS
dude this video mad predicted all of lonzo's issues
make attention to detail flutz ..we want to know the counter technique behind flutz. thankyou so much. 😊
Fultz better defender? I'll agree with you in every other area but to say he plays "solid defense" is a stretch. He gets beat off the dribble regularly as well.
Also, Fultz is listed at 6'4" while Ball is listed at 6'6". I know official listings are questionable, but what inside info do you have on Fultz's height?
Absolutely agreed with everything in this video. Ball is very good, but overhyped. His form is bad despite good percentages, because to be a great shooter in the NBA you have to be able to shoot both contested shots and shots of the dribble.
I want to see this rivalry span out
I would easily pick fultz over ball, all day long.
did yall watch when they played each other
OF COURSE, Fultz is better. He was last night's first overall pick and Ball was the 2nd. Let's see the Lakers play the Sixers next season, and what happens in the head-to-head matchup. Let's see who will still be there in 10 years. Let's see which one will have the better heart to lead their team to the NBA Finals.
flutz choosing to go to that school let me know what kind of player he was hes gonna get his stats even if his team keeps losing if I'm a nba gm I'm going with the player that makes the other 4 players on the court better
One guy lead his team to the Sweet 16 while the other struggled to win his team 9 games... Total, all season.
Ball is better.
Honestly all i hope is that the 2017 draft class is not as disappointing as this year's
who has the higher ceiling?
plss do kyrie irving. :) your the best basketball analyst in youtbe ive ever seen. i think ur channel become wide and big. :)
They both are going to places that fit them, fultz to sixers, where he doesn't need to lead, and ball(most liekly) to lakers, where they need someone to lead them.
Now, I want to see attention to detail on LBJ before he was drafted. seeing as how a lot of people had high expectations of him when he was a kid
Fultz is a modern day scoring pg like most pgs nowadays but Ball is a old school vintage pg pass first makes his teammates better around him