Good stuff! You might also discover that when you create more room around persimmon trees that you thought were male, turns out are really female that needed more light / nutrients to fruit!
It's a 50/50 proposition on seeds. You still need some males in the area for cross-pollination, so plant a lot of seeds. Then when the trees are older and you learn which are female, you can cull out surplus males (but not all of them) if necessary for growing room. The other option is grafting, and you can graft limbs from a female tree onto a male tree and make it produce fruit, but that's a whole other ball game!
How about fertilization as well? I know nitrogen at wrong time can trigger fruit drop. But can it be applied at other times? Or benefit from just the P & K, like a clover fertilizer?
I'm not aware of any scientific studies that have looked at fertilization of wild persimmons. But I suspect it would be the same as what was found with oaks and acorns: Don't bother with fertilizer. Just giving the tree more room to grow and full sunlight will significantly increase fruit production, without any soil amendments.
That’s why I made a comment about building compost piles on the drip edge. I also believe thinning out around them helps a lot, the got to have sunlight to grow. Big persimmon tree in town at the end of a lateral line from septic system had branches sagging every year is why I decided to provide nutrients thru composting.
@@estelltabor4692 Thanks. I have a number of medium persimmons (now 25-45ft) that "volunteered" in my food plot. I dodge around them for bushhogging and planting. They get some fertilizer and mostly sun. I will try to daylight some of the ones in woods. But ideas to help production past sunlight are helpful.
Google, tree guilds also, very beneficial. I’ve started to take my gardening practices to my hunting ground. I also like planting things that benefit deer,turkey,and my honeybees.
Not sure what you are asking. We suggest removing any tree with limbs that come in contact with the limbs of the persimmon (or other fruit or acorn producer), or that will soon come in contact with them in another year or two of growth. Always ensure air and open room for growth (plus full sunlight) around the entire crown of the tree.
Very likely. But it also could be because they are very young trees. They usually don't flower (male or female) until they are a few yeas old and growing in full sunlight.
Good stuff! You might also discover that when you create more room around persimmon trees that you thought were male, turns out are really female that needed more light / nutrients to fruit!
Excellent video Lindsay!
Miss you at the GON shoot outs.
I’ve been targeting persimmon trees on my property for a while now. After I’ve identified the females I build small compost piles on the drip edge.
Thanks for watching!
Now that's handy!
Thanks. Hope it helps you!
great information
Thanks for watching!
I am planting some seeds this spring. Is there any other way to tell from the seeds if they’re male or female? Or is it a 50/50 proposition?
It's a 50/50 proposition on seeds. You still need some males in the area for cross-pollination, so plant a lot of seeds. Then when the trees are older and you learn which are female, you can cull out surplus males (but not all of them) if necessary for growing room. The other option is grafting, and you can graft limbs from a female tree onto a male tree and make it produce fruit, but that's a whole other ball game!
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How about fertilization as well? I know nitrogen at wrong time can trigger fruit drop. But can it be applied at other times? Or benefit from just the P & K, like a clover fertilizer?
I'm not aware of any scientific studies that have looked at fertilization of wild persimmons. But I suspect it would be the same as what was found with oaks and acorns: Don't bother with fertilizer. Just giving the tree more room to grow and full sunlight will significantly increase fruit production, without any soil amendments.
That’s why I made a comment about building compost piles on the drip edge. I also believe thinning out around them helps a lot, the got to have sunlight to grow. Big persimmon tree in town at the end of a lateral line from septic system had branches sagging every year is why I decided to provide nutrients thru composting.
@@estelltabor4692 Thanks. I have a number of medium persimmons (now 25-45ft) that "volunteered" in my food plot. I dodge around them for bushhogging and planting. They get some fertilizer and mostly sun. I will try to daylight some of the ones in woods. But ideas to help production past sunlight are helpful.
Google, tree guilds also, very beneficial. I’ve started to take my gardening practices to my hunting ground. I also like planting things that benefit deer,turkey,and my honeybees.
Would you fell the tree that is very close, as shown in your video if there is another tree that is not as close ?
Not sure what you are asking. We suggest removing any tree with limbs that come in contact with the limbs of the persimmon (or other fruit or acorn producer), or that will soon come in contact with them in another year or two of growth. Always ensure air and open room for growth (plus full sunlight) around the entire crown of the tree.
I have persimmons, but always wondered why they didnt fruit…now i know, i have male persimmons
Very likely. But it also could be because they are very young trees. They usually don't flower (male or female) until they are a few yeas old and growing in full sunlight.