Thanks, Peter. It was your channel that inspired me to push forward with my own (which is probably a big reason why I ended up making a video about you). Keep up the good work!
Peter's draw for me is his perfect lighting, and engaging liveliness that always makes me smile! I'm not far into editing yet, but I learn a lot about shooting.
From my procrastination perspective, my problem is to progress from a fragment of a project to a less than perfect whole. I guess having perfection in mind before you’ve completed anything stops you from getting your work finished.
Exactly. It has nothing to do with not putting in the extra effort, it has to do with dwelling in yourself, procrastinating or just simply not getting it done because the more you want to “perfect it” it will never be. Therefore, done is better than perfect.
He talks a load of bollocks let's be honest. He wasn't preaching like that when he only had a few thousand 'fans' - now he's a big name, like all 'famous' people, he thinks he's some kind of preacher, that he knows more than the every day Joe - he doesn't .... but newbies hang oh his words as if they were golden. I'd hate to be such a fanboy to anyone.
I’m a retired professional photographer. I specialized in, what is probably best described as, lifestyle and product photography. There is another aspect of this that may warrant consideration. This is from over 50 years ago, from one of my mentors.... “Always remember you are a professional, and like all other professionals the product you are selling is your time. You cannot order more time from a supplier. You can only steal it from other parts of your life.” Get the project done, and go home to your kids. :)
Also, when you're at a certain level these things don't matter: your 'perfect' barely competes with Peter's hastily 'done'. But hey, this whole audience is a bunch of teens to 25year olds with barely the talent and connections to become wedding photographers, and for your average wedding photographer you don't need McKinnon's level. You don't even need Windsor's level. For your average, lousy wedding that's gonna be over in 5 years, you just need to know pretty much how to use a camera and lightroom, get hired at your local photographer as an assistant and have 3000 spare euros for semi-pro level equipment. I'll call this the reality check mantra. And then there's Neistat, who has a 1DX II collecting dust in his shelf and an entire video editing team backing him to only post pics of his kids taken with a Galaxy S9; Profession: Movie-maker. Earns money by promoting his wife's fashion line-up. Loved for being a Runner. Reality check: if the shit you do works for you, keep doing it.
You should look up "Bumping the Lamp." It's about Roger Rabbit and I think you'll find it relevant to your philosophy. This is a great video on it. ua-cam.com/video/RWtt3Tmnij4/v-deo.html
I read the “Done” meaning as ‘existing’ so many times have I meticulously planned ‘Perfect’ personal projects, and here they are ‘.........’ - they don’t exist Done is better than Perfect - to me means don’t be too precious, 75% of ‘good enough’ is better than 100% of something that doesn’t exist.
This .. I've been watching McKinnon for a while now and it's hard not to get inspired by his enthusiasm and the simplistic way he presents things. Done is better than perfect a lot of times, but sometimes you have to go that extra step. I think his Bucket shot video shows that. He could've snapped that pic at any time of the day, but he wanted it perfect so he waited for the prime opportunity.
Totally. Perfectionism can be crippling for some of us. Just allowing yourself to not be "perfect" sometimes allows you to get moving on a project, and ultimately "perfect" it.
I have been doing the "Done is better than perfect." and it really got me off my duff.. now going to try for consistency.. after a few weeks of this.. headed for that perfection.. this is well done.. thank you!
"Done" is for the masses. "Perfect" is for the few… "Perfect" means nothing to the masses, and "Done" means nothing to the few. Decide who your audience is, and go for it...
I think there is an additional point which is *whats the context* I don’t think McKinnon applies that to ‘client’ Work but it is good advice for ‘content’ creation. Social media is demanding and you need to constantly ‘feed the beast’ whereas client work has a negotiable timeline, set deliverables and agreed outcomes. Interesting video though...
Yeah, it took me some time until I've realized that the details I put into some of my works won't be noticed by your average follower. It's because they don't have that vision to see and spot them like an experienced artist. Nonetheless it adds to the work but not more than 20% even though it usually takes more time; relatively speaking.
Client work implies a deadline. If you can't be timely, there won't be much client work, so perfection isn't an option. For self-commissioned work, there is no built in deadline. I can fiddle forever.
@@YVZSTUDIOS that goes to a lot of professional photography. Rare is the client who will care whether a photographer used a Canon EOS 5DsR or an Olympus OMD EM-1.
Ross Jukes Photography agreed. The context matters greatly, the platform and the audience matter. UA-cam is certainly a “done over perfect” platform. The audience cares little about perfection and perfection is too hard to define anywho in this medium. Perfect in graphic design is easier to identify. But on YT the concept and personalities matter more than things like audio and visual quality. There’s too much subjectivity in YT to know what is perfect, so, go with done
As a detail-oriented perfectionist, I wholeheartedly agree, and feel much more comfortable using your above-and-beyond approach. However, as somebody who gets easily overwhelmed and discouraged, I think I need to apply Peter McKinnon's philosophy a lot more often
Exactly , in the quest of that perfection , I usually end up delaying my projects by months and even If I do have a breakthrough , my self critical nature always makes me miserable and I feel more bad than good about my creation ( man am I fucked up)
I like how you click baited me into this video (I'm a big fan of Peter McKinnon), but you offered reasonable and well thought out points. Excellent job.
you make some very well thought out points in this video. "don't run before you can walk" was one of the more salient and applicable cliches which is not typically articulated to the degree you have done here. very nicely done, sir.
Perfectionism can be a double-edged sword - on the one hand driving you to strive for real excellence, but it can also be a negative force that discourages you from starting something for fear that it won't be perfect. As someone who struggles with this balance, I have found 'Done is Better than Perfect' to be useful on occasions when beginning a project, just to get myself moving and off of the blank page. Later on, my perfectionist self takes over. An example was my MEd dissertation. I was definitely thinking "Done is Better than Perfect" when I started writing, and that it was a necessary piece of academic writing to be completed before a deadline rather than a genre-defining piece of prose, but by the time it was finished I was given top marks with Honours - and even though it was still a necessary piece of academic writing, I had done the very best job I could do. I knew before I started writing that I had done tonnes of research (probably too much) and had some good ideas, but the idea of writing something excellent was overpowering and prevented me from starting. The idea that I needed to get it done enabled me to start, and then perfectionism could enter the equation.
I think Pete's mantra is about not falling into the trap of never actually producing anything because as artists, we always see room for improvement & would never actually finish anything. You can't be successful if you never actually finish anything. That doesn't mean you have to half arse things, or can't strive for outstanding, high standard work & doesn't mean you can't push for that little bit further. But to answer your question of which photographer people would hire... they definitely wouldn't hire the one that has no portfolio because they can never bring themselves to actually finish a project.
Popped into the comments to say exactly what you said. Done and shown is still better then the 10 "Perfect" videos I still have half finished in my hard drive that no one will ever see.
Agreed. You push further when you actually have something done. Sometimes you have to start with the mentality of what Peter is talking about....but you don’t have to finish that way. So many ways to look at all this, great comments everyone!
I watched a video about a man who went to Japan to learn the craft of forging knives for Sushi Chefs. His mentor told him that 'Done is better than perfect' is not correct. His mantra was 'It's not done *until* it's perfect.' This man went on to learn how to forge the perfect knives for any kitchen task you might have to do. There are great differences between knives used for cutting vegetables, slicing sashimi, de-boning a chicken, or butchering a cow. As a knife smith, he had to know all of them, and how to apply that knowledge when he made a knife. So, that said, your gear can and does matter. If your first efforts are not good, it is on you to learn from them to make you next effort better than the last. This applies to everything- Photography, Cooking, Making Knives, Knitting, Drawing, Writing, or anything else that requires skill and practice.
@@johnwbailey8940 If you watch the video you will see that Jamie agrees with Peter's philosophy. Also John, Peter's millions of subscribers were not only because of the Doing is better than perfect philosophy. If you dig deep into his content, there are plenty more reasons that gained him this popularity. And don't forget that before starting youtube he was an instagram celebrity already with plenty of connections all over Photography and Videography online magazines. So his first 5 hacks video went viral in only one day. And from there he just showed his great personality online and he was one of the first youtubers who combined Neistat - MKBHD - and Kramer into a youtuber who does all the things together in the Photography and Videography category. So for any creators who don't have this magic wand, or the connections in the industry, a lot of times stepping a little bit further in the quality is a clever move considering that your content is going to be seen more when you gain more popularity. And to close this comment, 130k subscribers compared to 3 million are not a lot, but consider its still something huge!!
@@johnwbailey8940 Yeah, but Jamie is smart enough to talk about Pete. That alone will generate more views from people who know Pete, and don't know Jamie. That's down to marketing, - not philosophy!
i've been a professional crastinator almost all my life (procrastinator, that is). so, to get things done, i resort to being done than perfect. i know that if i waited long enough to be perfect, i will never be done.
Done is better than perfect is a very good mentality for someone that has low motivation or someone like me who has adhd. Keep in mind that I only use it to get myself off the couch and get started but when I get a little bit of momentum I go off
Excellent work on your video! I would love to face the challenge you took on with your professor with the 7 weeks of 1 minute films, it sounds like a blast! But what I got out of Peters “done is better than perfect” was that it’s better for you to post and share your work than not sharing it all. I think he was coming from a UA-camr standpoint as opposed to an artistic standpoint, in which case you’d want to show off your abilities in full. Just my two cents
Maybe it's kind of along the lines of: Imperfectly planned and executed is better than perfectly planned and not executed. There is line between perfectionism and just going ahead and doing.
Fear of failure holds a lot of people back and they just need to get it done, then they can improve on it next time. Then if you want stand out from the crowd you need to elevate your work.
Yes, Squarespace, because as a creative person it’s important that your website looks like millions of others’. The mark of creativity. Other than that love the vid. The only issue I have is that different situations can create different kinds outcomes. Being under pressure, having too little time, having lots of time, lots of budget, too little budget, etc. all will force different outcomes. And you can never guess what they’ll be.
Sort of, I would say it depends on what the "art" is. In a world of information where people scroll through hundreds of photos a day on Instagram and likely on give 30s at most to an image then "Done is better than perfect" is likely the only philosophy that is viable as a product. Small issues, maybe artifacts from pushing colour to far or a dodgy mask won't be noticed. If the photo is a form of business for you then "Done is better than perfect" when applied to Instagram meets that middle ground. If you are creating images as high art that is intended to be looked at for up to minutes and the image itself is purchased then "done is better than perfect" simply won't do. Any mistakes or small issues can be picked up and immediately devalue the work. If your images are being uploaded to in online social media then spending an extended time on images isn't viable. It pays more on social media to be uploading regularly with content that looks good enough for a quick view. That being said, no work is ever perfect and I think what you said comes into it a bit more. If we know that we will never be 100% happy with your work then it's about time management. If we are going to spend more time to push the work further then working out where you put your time is the most important thing. It reminds me of my time at uni when I studied film. A student was very particular on trying to create the most perfect film he could. Hating when productions accidentally had camera stands in shot and etc. So when they got their film back and saw in a shot in a refection from a window there was a camera stand in shot. He had his colour grader and VFX guy go FRAME BY FRAME to mask out the stand. This took the guy an extremely long time as the shot was tracking so he had to redo almost every frame. I sat there thinking what an absolute waste of time. It's so minor and if the audience notices it then as Hitchcock said, "You have already lost them". The film looked gorgeous but most people couldn't understand what the film was about and didn't resonate with it. All I could think was had they spent that extra time on doing more rough cuts and test screenings then perhaps the film would have been elevated to be better.
Excellent message and 100% agree. You really made me think, I'll put your philosophy in my work in 2019. (and btw, Peter knows what you mean, he recently released "The Bucket Shot" which is the essence of perfection and extra effort. I don't think he thought "done is better than perfect" in that case and look how it is working) Thanks a lot! for your video, nice AE work!
Don run before you can walk IN PRO JOBS. But in a new field try to run for fun/edu first, and if you like it, then learn to walk. Otherwise the fundaments will bore you before you will discover how you love it. So in you 1m film example you run to appreciate the fact, you can’t walk. But if your teacher spent all this time teaching you only fundamentals, you could even not finish the course.
GREAT VIDEO! I am a huge fan of Peter McKinnon and the "Done is Better than Perfect" philosophy AND doing that little bit more!! The world's most successful people after all are indeed only 1% better than some. Well put!!
I think Perfect is a concept like Infinity. It's not something that can ever be reached. You can move towards it, but you'll still be the same distance away as you were before.
Nice. Name drop when you're on the cusp of breaking thru the "Full time UA-camr" barrier. Keep your integrity and applying the knowledge you remain willing to gain. You'll do just fine, Jamie. Blessings and good luck to you. Cheers.
Very interesting deep dive, and something I wrestle with all the time. I feel that my own successes have come from making the "gems", and when I go for "good enough", or quantity-over-quality, the work flounders and gets lost in the vast sea of content. Thanks for the thoughts - subscribed!
As a declining part-time portrait photographer who still sometimes dabbles in this business for friends and family, I came across both you guys when researching for my last shoot (1 of 2 in the last year). You both have great advise and your vids are very polished. I think you summed up what he meant and put your spin on it with some absolute truths in it. My one and only affirmation/compliment from a full time commercial Photog who shot my daughters wedding... he took a look at my Squarespace website and complimented me on how polished it was. That was enough for me to know I've found the right balance of a 2-3hr shoot (a little long by some standards for portraits) and getting some epic photo's for my clients. My first two paid jobs were something like 4-6 hours long for little money which I've learned to cut in half once I found a decent session flow. Keep up the great work... subscribed.
I go with 50% "Done is better then perfect!" and add a drop of perfection if I have the time. All is about time. And in my "learning" time, as an illustrator... "done" is all you should do. And then again and again and again. Stop the masterpiece, plan it, train it. But not everything has to be a masterpiece.
What you describe in this video, going the extra mile to make your output great rather than good, thats exactly how i view your UA-cam content. The best, most insightful photography videos on UA-cam by a mile! Thanks for the amazing work.
Very interesting topic of discussion. I've been that overthinker - vigorously editing one concert photo IN Photoshop trying to get the best out of it and I still have hundreds of shots left to do.
I subbed. I’ve been called the Peter McKinnon Trucker. Done is better than perfect. Perfect slowed me down but now I post everyday. Thanks for sharing.
Whats nice about peter mckinnon is that he's humble enough to know that he's not the best photographer, he knows his works are not perfect and still needs many improvements, he's just enjoying what he's doing and doesnt force anything to make his work perfect. and thats what the main essence of art is all about, just enjoying the moment and expressing what you feel.
What I like about your video is that they are always have that EXTRA PUSH. I think we all apreciate on how much effort you put in those videos because they look like a well put documentary film. Well done. KEEP PUSHING! :)
His photography (landscapes) are really well done. He is a dedicated photographer. Watch his Bucket Shot video. It's me 20 years ago when I lived in Calgary. I got up for those shots of the Rockies. I like his tutorials on Lightroom and Photoshop as well as video editing. Is he changing the world? No. Is he producing what 2 million subscribers want to watch? Yes. I just hope he's fulfilled as an "artist"...
Keep it going, mate. Don’t stop the videos, they’re intriguing, educational and fun. I started my channel about a year ago, Precise Covers, and the done is better than perfect combined with the truth of this video has helped me progress. Keep it up!
Haha, clickbait done with perfection 😁 As a retired oldphart, I don't have much to contribute, but this video got you one more subscriber and a little UA-cam "engagement" 👍👍
Good enticing title! Sometimes trying to push something just a bit further makes it worse. But that aside, you bring up some awesome points about this wonderful artform we all love. I learned so much last year making vids everyday - that exercise your professor took you through is INCREDIBLE. The saying really only works for perfectionists. As you mention 3/4 of the way through, a commitment to constant progress is required in order to successfully live by the mantra.
By all mean I don't try to defend Peter or what so ever, I just don't agree with the video. This is very funny to me because majority of youtubers can't come with original ideas to vlog about and they rather pick someone popular, twist their words for the worst and still get a lot of channel and video traffic. "Done is better than perfect" is a simple quote to help beginners and those that try to be unsatisfied no matter what and how hard they work on their project... that's something that my brother as designer faces a lot. He rather doesn't release art work that he spend 1 week working on, than releasing it at all, on the end he loses money, time and struggles with the income. So "Done is better than perfect", this simple quote is meant for a lot of people that don't realise that they are self-destroying their own carrier. You have to be objective and view it from both sides, we know what Peter said, but if you watch his videos, he will always give that extra little bit, but leave the margin for natural imperfection, because perfect is only your personal standard.
I feel like Peter's approach is very much so a get out and shoot, shoot what you like, etc. It's is about intuition, but honestly from personal experience, this doesn't inspire you to learn or focus on the details or composition. When I shoot with improvement in mind, I focus on how I could make a picture better. I don't take as many photos, because I'm making sure what I have is what I want. I'm not sure if I agree with the extra push, but from the beginning improvement should be in mind in order for that push to happen imo
Good perspective, will have to think about this too. When shooting on the street I tend to take 2-3 shots of a composition, but generally that's because the scene develops or a moment happens. In the studio I take more time composing 1 shot and taking it before I move something or recompose. For me, this is because I'm shooting street for myself and the randomness of it all. In the studio, I'm trying to produce the best work I can possibly create at that moment for this and future clients.
As a new creator (well, always been creative but often never finishing projects (unless I was in school) and definitely not sharing them) I find your videos engaging and very helpful. Both these theories intertwine nicely together. Awesome advice.
The moment I saw the title I knew what you meant! :D well, kind of! Putting your work out there against procrastination vs do little if required but maintain quality! There is another person out there whose words I also value a lot, "Sean Tucker". Have you seen his content or his philosophy behind his works? You might like it
PMac and Sean Tucker do sound like they are worlds apart when you look at how both approach the creative process. But like you I find their influence (uhoh that term), to be both inspiring and important. I'm just beginning to appreciate Mr. Windsor. I hope he does make a good living off making free content for us. Cheers!
What @petermckinnon says is to start creating and give a form to your idea, get the work done instead of worrying if the work would be perfect or not and not doing it at all with the fear of possible imperfection.
Just Do It! You can always make it better later. If you never start, you failed. Cool video, good luck. Love Peter McKinnon, I have learned a lot from him.
Great video and there is definitely a time and place for each philosophy. I have a tendency to get bogged down in the detail of trying to make something perfect when 'good enough' will do, but then other times going that extra mile makes all the difference.
The ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the "quantity" group: fifty pound of pots rated an "A", forty pounds a "B", and so on. Those being graded on "quality", however, needed to produce only one pot - albeit a perfect one - to get an "A". Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the "quantity" group was busily churning out piles of work - and learning from their mistakes - the "quality" group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.“
Great video Jamie. A friend once said everything is a compromise. And I still to this day challenge that statement and am yet to find and exception. Whether it be a product, say a tool, a camera, lens, car, washing machine. Or a decision you make, a path you take or even the people you form relationships with. Or anything you choose to apply that to. The key is finding the compromise that fits you. With photographic work and focusing on perfection I've found time and again that once it's 'done' means it's time to step back, rest, do something else and only return when that image has stopped being the thing that occupies my thoughts. When I do return and can see nothing more I can and want to do to change it then that is perfection. Of course that perfection is in my eye, you or anyone else might think it's bollocks, but that input can provide a further step toward perfection, potentially. Of course the BIG compromise in that is time so learning that lesson bears fruit, how do you become faster, more effective, say get things right in camera and so on. The beauty is the endless opportunities to grow as an artist and a person, life lessons all round and that is the essence of what your saying for me. Your video and editing work is superb Jamie, thanks for doing what you do.
another great vid, and actually that bit at the end was the best ad i’ve seen for squarespace ever. it just felt like a genuine explanation of why you endorse them i why what they do with creators matter. so much better than the typical copy people read that we’ve all heard a million times. well done!
hahah here you are again and i went on tryng to wipe your thumbnail again.... I havent been on McKinnons channel much lately but i remember seeing this hair of your there a lot and kept trying wipe it off my screen! hahaahah dude your Thumbs is just EPIC :)
Peter McKinnon even STOLE that mantra from Jake Parker the comic artist who FIRST came up with the concept "Finished not Perfect". Peter McKinnon is a hack.
I think the best way to sum this is "pursue perfection but don't wait until it's actually achieved to publish or put out your work". I remember reading somewhere that when your work is 80% of your idea of perfection it's time to release it into the world and allow the audience to react to it. Waiting to get it to 100% before publishing or putting it out there makes it a project that will never finish. Even in your design case I'm sure if you wanted to achieve absolute perfection before submitting you would end up never submitting it to your boss because there will always be something to fix on it.
Peter McKinnon 2.9 million Subs - Jamie Windsor 133K Subs -> question answered! Having said that: You are doing great work but it really depends on what you want to achieve: Ultimate art recognition or "commercial" success it is your choice to determine what your goal is and what is "right" & "wrong"
Great insight into when Quantity and when Quality should be the priority. Appreciate your work and hope that you are successful, but honestly the story of your struggle at the end and the almost begging for support totally destroys the professional edge - you would never see a brain surgeon or other professional add that approach to their marketing. Marketing has 2 prongs - quantity so your name is a household word and quality so that your finest work is featured and targeted at your specific market (let your work and awards be your reputation and let your reputation be your targeted marketing). Sorry - not trying to put you down - that advise was given to me before I started in business and it served me well for 26 years until I retired on my time so I am sharing - I wish you all the success in the world!
Thanks for your comment. I'm not entirely sure which bit you're referring to with the 'begging' comment. Do you mean the bit where I thank my Patreon supporters or the bit where I respond to the huge influx of comments and messages I've received telling me what an awful person I am for taking on a sponsorship? If it's the latter, I'll take your advice and "Keep calm and carry on" as they say.
@@jamiewindsor I didn't remember you mentioning the negative feedback in this video (I did see it in the previous video where you mentioned that You Tube changed your status) - it was the fact that you mentioned that you are trying to earn a living from You Tube and were not quite there yet - to me that was an announcement implying "I am not a success," which first of all is not true since you have completed award winning work and second of all is not very inviting to potential new clients, which should spin off of your You Tube presence (social media is a great way to achieve the quantity side of the marketing recipe and if you feature / display your talent, awards and successful work accomplishments, then you should be able to spin off paying project work. Anthony Morganti, another vlogger whom I enjoy, recently pointed out in a podcast that the value of photographs for sale has declined to virtually zero because some stock photo sites are now offering free photos such that the real value of putting your work up for free or nearly free (as you are doing with your You Tube videos) is the marketing value and the spin off project work that comes from "flaunting your talent." I think that you are a professional with a unique perspective / insight in creativity and quality work ethic that is and will be valuable to prospective clients, but all that is weakened by communicating that you are going through a "reset" in your career. Just show your "stuff" and promote and thank your sponsors including the voluntary donation site (I think that is what it is) but don't comment / imply that your are barely making a living - that is irrelevant to your true talent, which obviously Square Space feels is worth associating themselves with. All the best!
Excellent video. This is something I've struggled with myself: doing enough work to learn, while still having work good enough to generate interest in it.
Yes, he is. In A LOT of things. When his channel began to grow, I began to follow him. I quit after a few weeks. I really have no patience with so much screaming, convulsive editing, and lousy tips. I mean, I do not think he's a BAD PERSON or anything. But I really think that the QUALITY of the content of it is VERY lower than expected for someone in such a specific niche (and with so many followers)
This video was very well done! I’m impressed!
Thanks, Peter. It was your channel that inspired me to push forward with my own (which is probably a big reason why I ended up making a video about you). Keep up the good work!
@@jamiewindsor do youtube full time please and collab with peter
Haha
The perfect is the enemy of the great. simple as that.... Great Peter...
Peter's draw for me is his perfect lighting, and
engaging liveliness that always makes me smile! I'm not far into editing yet, but I learn a lot about shooting.
"Art is never finished, only abandoned"
Leonardo Da Vinci
damn!
Bruh
I get where he’s coming from, but I disagree in some cases.
I think what Peter McKinnon is trying to say is that it is better to do something, than not doing anything.
From my procrastination perspective, my problem is to progress from a fragment of a project to a less than perfect whole.
I guess having perfection in mind before you’ve completed anything stops you from getting your work finished.
Exactly. It has nothing to do with not putting in the extra effort, it has to do with dwelling in yourself, procrastinating or just simply not getting it done because the more you want to “perfect it” it will never be. Therefore, done is better than perfect.
@@jorgedominguez1427 perfectly stated. Especially if you've seen his Bucket Shot documentary video. 🔥
He talks a load of bollocks let's be honest. He wasn't preaching like that when he only had a few thousand 'fans' - now he's a big name, like all 'famous' people, he thinks he's some kind of preacher, that he knows more than the every day Joe - he doesn't .... but newbies hang oh his words as if they were golden. I'd hate to be such a fanboy to anyone.
@@Cagey7531 jealous much?
I’m a retired professional photographer. I specialized in, what is probably best described as, lifestyle and product photography. There is another aspect of this that may warrant consideration. This is from over 50 years ago, from one of my mentors....
“Always remember you are a professional, and like all other professionals the product you are selling is your time. You cannot order more time from a supplier. You can only steal it from other parts of your life.” Get the project done, and go home to your kids. :)
that's deep!
Thanks for sharong that
*SPOILER: No, he’s not.*
*This is a video about my own relationship with Peter’s work philosophy and the journey I’ve been on with it.*
Also, when you're at a certain level these things don't matter: your 'perfect' barely competes with Peter's hastily 'done'.
But hey, this whole audience is a bunch of teens to 25year olds with barely the talent and connections to become wedding photographers, and for your average wedding photographer you don't need McKinnon's level. You don't even need Windsor's level. For your average, lousy wedding that's gonna be over in 5 years, you just need to know pretty much how to use a camera and lightroom, get hired at your local photographer as an assistant and have 3000 spare euros for semi-pro level equipment. I'll call this the reality check mantra.
And then there's Neistat, who has a 1DX II collecting dust in his shelf and an entire video editing team backing him to only post pics of his kids taken with a Galaxy S9; Profession: Movie-maker. Earns money by promoting his wife's fashion line-up. Loved for being a Runner. Reality check: if the shit you do works for you, keep doing it.
You should look up "Bumping the Lamp." It's about Roger Rabbit and I think you'll find it relevant to your philosophy. This is a great video on it. ua-cam.com/video/RWtt3Tmnij4/v-deo.html
@@TheFrogmanTV Thanks for the link. Just watched it. Great video.
Done is better than perfect. And most times, perfect isn't exactly perfect. Most times, for me, perfect isn't artistic.
Great advice.
I read the “Done” meaning as ‘existing’ so many times have I meticulously planned ‘Perfect’ personal projects, and here they are ‘.........’ - they don’t exist
Done is better than Perfect - to me means don’t be too precious, 75% of ‘good enough’ is better than 100% of something that doesn’t exist.
I find this '"mantra" useful for us who are dealing with PROCASTRINATION ^^
This ..
I've been watching McKinnon for a while now and it's hard not to get inspired by his enthusiasm and the simplistic way he presents things. Done is better than perfect a lot of times, but sometimes you have to go that extra step. I think his Bucket shot video shows that. He could've snapped that pic at any time of the day, but he wanted it perfect so he waited for the prime opportunity.
Agreed
Set deadlines
Totally. Perfectionism can be crippling for some of us. Just allowing yourself to not be "perfect" sometimes allows you to get moving on a project, and ultimately "perfect" it.
@@jameslincs those do not help for some people
I have been doing the "Done is better than perfect." and it really got me off my duff.. now going to try for consistency.. after a few weeks of this.. headed for that perfection.. this is well done.. thank you!
"Done" is for the masses. "Perfect" is for the few… "Perfect" means nothing to the masses, and "Done" means nothing to the few. Decide who your audience is, and go for it...
Life & Times of a MultipleMediaManager™ i think you are done with your comment
Hah, perfect is an illusion in your head my friend. It doesn't exist.
Brilliant!
NAILED IT
This.
Jamie's videos are not ordinary. They are extra ordinary. Excellent explained!
I think there is an additional point which is *whats the context* I don’t think McKinnon applies that to ‘client’ Work but it is good advice for ‘content’ creation. Social media is demanding and you need to constantly ‘feed the beast’ whereas client work has a negotiable timeline, set deliverables and agreed outcomes. Interesting video though...
This.
Yeah, it took me some time until I've realized that the details I put into some of my works won't be noticed by your average follower. It's because they don't have that vision to see and spot them like an experienced artist. Nonetheless it adds to the work but not more than 20% even though it usually takes more time; relatively speaking.
Client work implies a deadline. If you can't be timely, there won't be much client work, so perfection isn't an option. For self-commissioned work, there is no built in deadline. I can fiddle forever.
@@YVZSTUDIOS that goes to a lot of professional photography. Rare is the client who will care whether a photographer used a Canon EOS 5DsR or an Olympus OMD EM-1.
Ross Jukes Photography agreed. The context matters greatly, the platform and the audience matter. UA-cam is certainly a “done over perfect” platform. The audience cares little about perfection and perfection is too hard to define anywho in this medium. Perfect in graphic design is easier to identify. But on YT the concept and personalities matter more than things like audio and visual quality. There’s too much subjectivity in YT to know what is perfect, so, go with done
"Done is better than perfect." If your eye surgeon or a bomb-disposal technician tells you that, RUN!
Not at all the same thing. You’re comparing eye surgery to photography lol
Well an undone bomb-disposal is an explosion and an and undone surgery is death
so yeah
done is better than perfect
You guys are probably really fun at parties
@@gabimic7022 Lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's the reason I read comments! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a detail-oriented perfectionist, I wholeheartedly agree, and feel much more comfortable using your above-and-beyond approach. However, as somebody who gets easily overwhelmed and discouraged, I think I need to apply Peter McKinnon's philosophy a lot more often
Exactly , in the quest of that perfection , I usually end up delaying my projects by months and even If I do have a breakthrough , my self critical nature always makes me miserable and I feel more bad than good about my creation ( man am I fucked up)
@@anitagarg3316 Same with me :( I end up psyching myself out of so many things I try to do
I like how you click baited me into this video (I'm a big fan of Peter McKinnon), but you offered reasonable and well thought out points. Excellent job.
This is why I like your videos so much. I think it’s clickbait and then there is that nicely edited, mindful content. Well done :)
and also lost a few, I bet.
No big loss.
you make some very well thought out points in this video. "don't run before you can walk" was one of the more salient and applicable cliches which is not typically articulated to the degree you have done here. very nicely done, sir.
Perfectionism can be a double-edged sword - on the one hand driving you to strive for real excellence, but it can also be a negative force that discourages you from starting something for fear that it won't be perfect. As someone who struggles with this balance, I have found 'Done is Better than Perfect' to be useful on occasions when beginning a project, just to get myself moving and off of the blank page. Later on, my perfectionist self takes over. An example was my MEd dissertation. I was definitely thinking "Done is Better than Perfect" when I started writing, and that it was a necessary piece of academic writing to be completed before a deadline rather than a genre-defining piece of prose, but by the time it was finished I was given top marks with Honours - and even though it was still a necessary piece of academic writing, I had done the very best job I could do. I knew before I started writing that I had done tonnes of research (probably too much) and had some good ideas, but the idea of writing something excellent was overpowering and prevented me from starting. The idea that I needed to get it done enabled me to start, and then perfectionism could enter the equation.
I completely agree. I think you've put it perfectly.
@@jamiewindsor Glad to be able to contribute, and thanks for all your interesting and thought-provoking ideas and content.
I gotta say this was a great video!
I think Pete's mantra is about not falling into the trap of never actually producing anything because as artists, we always see room for improvement & would never actually finish anything. You can't be successful if you never actually finish anything.
That doesn't mean you have to half arse things, or can't strive for outstanding, high standard work & doesn't mean you can't push for that little bit further.
But to answer your question of which photographer people would hire... they definitely wouldn't hire the one that has no portfolio because they can never bring themselves to actually finish a project.
^ this
The Reptile spot on!
@@PeterMcKinnon Thanks :)
Popped into the comments to say exactly what you said. Done and shown is still better then the 10 "Perfect" videos I still have half finished in my hard drive that no one will ever see.
Agreed. You push further when you actually have something done. Sometimes you have to start with the mentality of what Peter is talking about....but you don’t have to finish that way. So many ways to look at all this, great comments everyone!
I watched a video about a man who went to Japan to learn the craft of forging knives for Sushi Chefs. His mentor told him that 'Done is better than perfect' is not correct. His mantra was 'It's not done *until* it's perfect.'
This man went on to learn how to forge the perfect knives for any kitchen task you might have to do.
There are great differences between knives used for cutting vegetables, slicing sashimi, de-boning a chicken, or butchering a cow. As a knife smith, he had to know all of them, and how to apply that knowledge when he made a knife.
So, that said, your gear can and does matter. If your first efforts are not good, it is on you to learn from them to make you next effort better than the last.
This applies to everything- Photography, Cooking, Making Knives, Knitting, Drawing, Writing, or anything else that requires skill and practice.
Very well said. "Don't run before you start walking". This is a huge advice and thank you so much for sharing!!
Emilio Takas that bit particularly stood out to me as well.
However, Peter's philosophy has gained him millions of subscribers in a few years. Jamie's philosophy has gained him 132, 000.
@@johnwbailey8940 If you watch the video you will see that Jamie agrees with Peter's philosophy. Also John, Peter's millions of subscribers were not only because of the Doing is better than perfect philosophy. If you dig deep into his content, there are plenty more reasons that gained him this popularity. And don't forget that before starting youtube he was an instagram celebrity already with plenty of connections all over Photography and Videography online magazines. So his first 5 hacks video went viral in only one day. And from there he just showed his great personality online and he was one of the first youtubers who combined Neistat - MKBHD - and Kramer into a youtuber who does all the things together in the Photography and Videography category. So for any creators who don't have this magic wand, or the connections in the industry, a lot of times stepping a little bit further in the quality is a clever move considering that your content is going to be seen more when you gain more popularity. And to close this comment, 130k subscribers compared to 3 million are not a lot, but consider its still something huge!!
@@johnwbailey8940 Yeah, but Jamie is smart enough to talk about Pete. That alone will generate more views from people who know Pete, and don't know Jamie. That's down to marketing, - not philosophy!
Peter is like a movie star, Jamie is a specialist. Probably most of Peter's followers don't even have a DSLR or even an instagram account.
Man! All your videos are so amazingly well done in all senses!! Information delivery / creative edit / feeling!
Glad you like them!
i've been a professional crastinator almost all my life (procrastinator, that is). so, to get things done, i resort to being done than perfect. i know that if i waited long enough to be perfect, i will never be done.
Done is better than perfect is a very good mentality for someone that has low motivation or someone like me who has adhd. Keep in mind that I only use it to get myself off the couch and get started but when I get a little bit of momentum I go off
I wanted to hate this video , but I end up being a fan 😁
Cool. Part intuition, part introspection, part inspiration. Good Job.
You nailed it in this one. Also, your editing and animation skills are FIRE.😍
Yeah who needs b-roll having those animations
If the skills weren't on point we wouldn't believe him...
Excellent work on your video! I would love to face the challenge you took on with your professor with the 7 weeks of 1 minute films, it sounds like a blast! But what I got out of Peters “done is better than perfect” was that it’s better for you to post and share your work than not sharing it all. I think he was coming from a UA-camr standpoint as opposed to an artistic standpoint, in which case you’d want to show off your abilities in full. Just my two cents
Maybe it's kind of along the lines of:
Imperfectly planned and executed is better than perfectly planned and not executed.
There is line between perfectionism and just going ahead and doing.
You are everything McKinnon never will be! Well done
Fear of failure holds a lot of people back and they just need to get it done, then they can improve on it next time. Then if you want stand out from the crowd you need to elevate your work.
Yes, Squarespace, because as a creative person it’s important that your website looks like millions of others’. The mark of creativity. Other than that love the vid. The only issue I have is that different situations can create different kinds outcomes. Being under pressure, having too little time, having lots of time, lots of budget, too little budget, etc. all will force different outcomes. And you can never guess what they’ll be.
Don’t feel it’s necessary to explain yourself so much on the sponsorship.... this is my first video of yours I’ve watched and immediately subbed
fully agree... very good content men! :)
I think it’s about the perfect balance between the two.
Sort of, I would say it depends on what the "art" is. In a world of information where people scroll through hundreds of photos a day on Instagram and likely on give 30s at most to an image then "Done is better than perfect" is likely the only philosophy that is viable as a product. Small issues, maybe artifacts from pushing colour to far or a dodgy mask won't be noticed.
If the photo is a form of business for you then "Done is better than perfect" when applied to Instagram meets that middle ground.
If you are creating images as high art that is intended to be looked at for up to minutes and the image itself is purchased then "done is better than perfect" simply won't do. Any mistakes or small issues can be picked up and immediately devalue the work.
If your images are being uploaded to in online social media then spending an extended time on images isn't viable. It pays more on social media to be uploading regularly with content that looks good enough for a quick view.
That being said, no work is ever perfect and I think what you said comes into it a bit more. If we know that we will never be 100% happy with your work then it's about time management. If we are going to spend more time to push the work further then working out where you put your time is the most important thing.
It reminds me of my time at uni when I studied film. A student was very particular on trying to create the most perfect film he could. Hating when productions accidentally had camera stands in shot and etc. So when they got their film back and saw in a shot in a refection from a window there was a camera stand in shot. He had his colour grader and VFX guy go FRAME BY FRAME to mask out the stand. This took the guy an extremely long time as the shot was tracking so he had to redo almost every frame. I sat there thinking what an absolute waste of time. It's so minor and if the audience notices it then as Hitchcock said, "You have already lost them". The film looked gorgeous but most people couldn't understand what the film was about and didn't resonate with it. All I could think was had they spent that extra time on doing more rough cuts and test screenings then perhaps the film would have been elevated to be better.
Excellent message and 100% agree. You really made me think, I'll put your philosophy in my work in 2019.
(and btw, Peter knows what you mean, he recently released "The Bucket Shot" which is the essence of perfection and extra effort. I don't think he thought "done is better than perfect" in that case and look how it is working)
Thanks a lot! for your video, nice AE work!
Don run before you can walk IN PRO JOBS. But in a new field try to run for fun/edu first, and if you like it, then learn to walk. Otherwise the fundaments will bore you before you will discover how you love it. So in you 1m film example you run to appreciate the fact, you can’t walk. But if your teacher spent all this time teaching you only fundamentals, you could even not finish the course.
LOVE this video!!!
You are a philosopher. This is awesome!!!! You are awesome!
Thank you for making these videos
I love well thought out responses! Thank you!
"In repetition strive for perfection."
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GREAT VIDEO! I am a huge fan of Peter McKinnon and the "Done is Better than Perfect" philosophy AND doing that little bit more!! The world's most successful people after all are indeed only 1% better than some. Well put!!
I don't want to be 'that' guy, but there's no such thing as perfect
I think Perfect is a concept like Infinity. It's not something that can ever be reached. You can move towards it, but you'll still be the same distance away as you were before.
finally a comment i can relate to
Great thoughts, thanks for making this (ps, I just bought your presets)
Wow. Jamie, you make one of the most valuable intelectually content for freelancers on yt. Thanks for your work.
Nice. Name drop when you're on the cusp of breaking thru the "Full time UA-camr" barrier. Keep your integrity and applying the knowledge you remain willing to gain. You'll do just fine, Jamie. Blessings and good luck to you. Cheers.
Very interesting deep dive, and something I wrestle with all the time. I feel that my own successes have come from making the "gems", and when I go for "good enough", or quantity-over-quality, the work flounders and gets lost in the vast sea of content. Thanks for the thoughts - subscribed!
Well done Jamie, excellent points well made, best of luck I will be keeping an eye on your work for sure!
It was a very interesting analysis. I agree with what you have said.
As a declining part-time portrait photographer who still sometimes dabbles in this business for friends and family, I came across both you guys when researching for my last shoot (1 of 2 in the last year). You both have great advise and your vids are very polished. I think you summed up what he meant and put your spin on it with some absolute truths in it. My one and only affirmation/compliment from a full time commercial Photog who shot my daughters wedding... he took a look at my Squarespace website and complimented me on how polished it was. That was enough for me to know I've found the right balance of a 2-3hr shoot (a little long by some standards for portraits) and getting some epic photo's for my clients. My first two paid jobs were something like 4-6 hours long for little money which I've learned to cut in half once I found a decent session flow. Keep up the great work... subscribed.
Great work as always! ..
Whats also undeniable is how good and informative your content is.
I go with 50% "Done is better then perfect!" and add a drop of perfection if I have the time. All is about time. And in my "learning" time, as an illustrator... "done" is all you should do. And then again and again and again. Stop the masterpiece, plan it, train it. But not everything has to be a masterpiece.
What you describe in this video, going the extra mile to make your output great rather than good, thats exactly how i view your UA-cam content. The best, most insightful photography videos on UA-cam by a mile! Thanks for the amazing work.
For UA-cam influencers to say towards new, starting UA-camrs, making them hustle, yes.
But for professional work, no.
This is great bro. I try to follow the done is better than perfect thing but I cant go with that for every project. Great vid!
Very interesting topic of discussion.
I've been that overthinker - vigorously editing one concert photo IN Photoshop trying to get the best out of it and I still have hundreds of shots left to do.
I subbed. I’ve been called the Peter McKinnon Trucker. Done is better than perfect. Perfect slowed me down but now I post everyday. Thanks for sharing.
Whats nice about peter mckinnon is that he's humble enough to know that he's not the best photographer, he knows his works are not perfect and still needs many improvements, he's just enjoying what he's doing and doesnt force anything to make his work perfect. and thats what the main essence of art is all about, just enjoying the moment and expressing what you feel.
Some thing i was looking all over the comment 👍👍👍👌👌 Definitely true word.
both are valuable. Some people fiddle about so much and never achieve anything, but also pushing yourself can really make a massive difference
This is so well-made. Your style of explaining things is a rare fusion of technical precision and creative simplicity.
Subscribed.
What I like about your video is that they are always have that EXTRA PUSH. I think we all apreciate on how much effort you put in those videos because they look like a well put documentary film. Well done. KEEP PUSHING! :)
This makes a lot of sense! I just subscribed.
Always better to make something and learn from it than to just think about it. Procrastination kills creativity
On another note. Do you all find Peter mckinnons photos and videos so great? Cause for me his style is like pop music. Just following the trends
His photography (landscapes) are really well done. He is a dedicated photographer. Watch his Bucket Shot video. It's me 20 years ago when I lived in Calgary. I got up for those shots of the Rockies.
I like his tutorials on Lightroom and Photoshop as well as video editing.
Is he changing the world? No. Is he producing what 2 million subscribers want to watch? Yes.
I just hope he's fulfilled as an "artist"...
louisedebambambum agreed...
Coni Glione honestly I cant explain why I love landscape photography I guess it just looks majestic in some cases and unreal
Keep it going, mate. Don’t stop the videos, they’re intriguing, educational and fun. I started my channel about a year ago, Precise Covers, and the done is better than perfect combined with the truth of this video has helped me progress. Keep it up!
Haha, clickbait done with perfection 😁 As a retired oldphart, I don't have much to contribute, but this video got you one more subscriber and a little UA-cam "engagement" 👍👍
Good enticing title! Sometimes trying to push something just a bit further makes it worse. But that aside, you bring up some awesome points about this wonderful artform we all love. I learned so much last year making vids everyday - that exercise your professor took you through is INCREDIBLE.
The saying really only works for perfectionists. As you mention 3/4 of the way through, a commitment to constant progress is required in order to successfully live by the mantra.
By all mean I don't try to defend Peter or what so ever, I just don't agree with the video. This is very funny to me because majority of youtubers can't come with original ideas to vlog about and they rather pick someone popular, twist their words for the worst and still get a lot of channel and video traffic. "Done is better than perfect" is a simple quote to help beginners and those that try to be unsatisfied no matter what and how hard they work on their project... that's something that my brother as designer faces a lot. He rather doesn't release art work that he spend 1 week working on, than releasing it at all, on the end he loses money, time and struggles with the income. So "Done is better than perfect", this simple quote is meant for a lot of people that don't realise that they are self-destroying their own carrier. You have to be objective and view it from both sides, we know what Peter said, but if you watch his videos, he will always give that extra little bit, but leave the margin for natural imperfection, because perfect is only your personal standard.
you are so underrated. you need more subscribers. love your work by the way.
I feel like Peter's approach is very much so a get out and shoot, shoot what you like, etc. It's is about intuition, but honestly from personal experience, this doesn't inspire you to learn or focus on the details or composition. When I shoot with improvement in mind, I focus on how I could make a picture better. I don't take as many photos, because I'm making sure what I have is what I want. I'm not sure if I agree with the extra push, but from the beginning improvement should be in mind in order for that push to happen imo
Good perspective, will have to think about this too. When shooting on the street I tend to take 2-3 shots of a composition, but generally that's because the scene develops or a moment happens. In the studio I take more time composing 1 shot and taking it before I move something or recompose.
For me, this is because I'm shooting street for myself and the randomness of it all. In the studio, I'm trying to produce the best work I can possibly create at that moment for this and future clients.
As a new creator (well, always been creative but often never finishing projects (unless I was in school) and definitely not sharing them) I find your videos engaging and very helpful. Both these theories intertwine nicely together. Awesome advice.
Who is Peter McCanon?
😂
Priceless :-))
😂😂😂😂 Cannon's marketing director.
Ha
Your 0 subs vs Peter's 3 million.......Canon seems to be working out ok for him. Maybe give Canon a try.
I like your style man. Very honest and to the point. I came from the design background myself. Great stuff!
The moment I saw the title I knew what you meant! :D
well, kind of!
Putting your work out there against procrastination vs do little if required but maintain quality!
There is another person out there whose words I also value a lot, "Sean Tucker".
Have you seen his content or his philosophy behind his works?
You might like it
PMac and Sean Tucker do sound like they are worlds apart when you look at how both approach the creative process. But like you I find their influence (uhoh that term), to be both inspiring and important. I'm just beginning to appreciate Mr. Windsor. I hope he does make a good living off making free content for us. Cheers!
Tawhid Khan Sean Tucker is like the most informative person on UA-cam for photography, especially corporate photography
What @petermckinnon says is to start creating and give a form to your idea, get the work done instead of worrying if the work would be perfect or not and not doing it at all with the fear of possible imperfection.
You are one of the best video editors and this video is damn good
Excellent video. Very well thought out and considered. Big thumbs up.
Just Do It! You can always make it better later. If you never start, you failed.
Cool video, good luck.
Love Peter McKinnon, I have learned a lot from him.
Great video and there is definitely a time and place for each philosophy.
I have a tendency to get bogged down in the detail of trying to make something perfect when 'good enough' will do, but then other times going that extra mile makes all the difference.
The ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the "quantity" group: fifty pound of pots rated an "A", forty pounds a "B", and so on. Those being graded on "quality", however, needed to produce only one pot - albeit a perfect one - to get an "A".
Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the "quantity" group was busily churning out piles of work - and learning from their mistakes - the "quality" group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.“
Good luck on your future with UA-cam. I'll be watching...
Oooh, Jamie Windsor coming for necks in 2019
LOOOOL… watch your back man!
Protect your neck! hahaha
Great video Jamie. A friend once said everything is a compromise. And I still to this day challenge that statement and am yet to find and exception. Whether it be a product, say a tool, a camera, lens, car, washing machine. Or a decision you make, a path you take or even the people you form relationships with. Or anything you choose to apply that to. The key is finding the compromise that fits you.
With photographic work and focusing on perfection I've found time and again that once it's 'done' means it's time to step back, rest, do something else and only return when that image has stopped being the thing that occupies my thoughts. When I do return and can see nothing more I can and want to do to change it then that is perfection. Of course that perfection is in my eye, you or anyone else might think it's bollocks, but that input can provide a further step toward perfection, potentially. Of course the BIG compromise in that is time so learning that lesson bears fruit, how do you become faster, more effective, say get things right in camera and so on. The beauty is the endless opportunities to grow as an artist and a person, life lessons all round and that is the essence of what your saying for me.
Your video and editing work is superb Jamie, thanks for doing what you do.
I thought he only made b-roll videos on how to make b-roll footage.
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another great vid, and actually that bit at the end was the best ad i’ve seen for squarespace ever. it just felt like a genuine explanation of why you endorse them i why what they do with creators matter. so much better than the typical copy people read that we’ve all heard a million times. well done!
Only 132k subs? Strange
I tried to wipe that hair away from my screen. 😅🤣😂
Me too
UA-cam doesn't push UK content, so we don't get much exposure 🙁
hahah here you are again and i went on tryng to wipe your thumbnail again.... I havent been on McKinnons channel much lately but i remember seeing this hair of your there a lot and kept trying wipe it off my screen! hahaahah dude your Thumbs is just EPIC :)
@@IAMDIMITRI haha me too!!!
I believe in your channel! Thank you for sharing 📷
Peter McKinnon even STOLE that mantra from Jake Parker the comic artist who FIRST came up with the concept "Finished not Perfect". Peter McKinnon is a hack.
Mckinnons intro spaz is a theft. I'm not sure he ever gives credit to an original creator.
"Hack", you say? Hmmmm....just guessing here, but I think he kicks your ass....and I haven't even seen your shit.
@Storm_photography__ his main "supporter" / influence is Casey Neistat.... soooooo
I believe this message pre-dates modern peeps. ::shrugs::
@@kevingumfory no hes not....i know him from Henrys cameras...stop talking shit
I think the best way to sum this is "pursue perfection but don't wait until it's actually achieved to publish or put out your work". I remember reading somewhere that when your work is 80% of your idea of perfection it's time to release it into the world and allow the audience to react to it. Waiting to get it to 100% before publishing or putting it out there makes it a project that will never finish. Even in your design case I'm sure if you wanted to achieve absolute perfection before submitting you would end up never submitting it to your boss because there will always be something to fix on it.
Peter McKinnon 2.9 million Subs - Jamie Windsor 133K Subs -> question answered!
Having said that:
You are doing great work but it really depends on what you want to achieve:
Ultimate art recognition or "commercial" success it is your choice to determine what your goal is and what is "right" & "wrong"
Cody Wanner had an interesting take where “done is better than perfect” only works if you do have high standards to begin with.
Great insight into when Quantity and when Quality should be the priority. Appreciate your work and hope that you are successful, but honestly the story of your struggle at the end and the almost begging for support totally destroys the professional edge - you would never see a brain surgeon or other professional add that approach to their marketing. Marketing has 2 prongs - quantity so your name is a household word and quality so that your finest work is featured and targeted at your specific market (let your work and awards be your reputation and let your reputation be your targeted marketing). Sorry - not trying to put you down - that advise was given to me before I started in business and it served me well for 26 years until I retired on my time so I am sharing - I wish you all the success in the world!
Thanks for your comment. I'm not entirely sure which bit you're referring to with the 'begging' comment. Do you mean the bit where I thank my Patreon supporters or the bit where I respond to the huge influx of comments and messages I've received telling me what an awful person I am for taking on a sponsorship? If it's the latter, I'll take your advice and "Keep calm and carry on" as they say.
@@jamiewindsor I didn't remember you mentioning the negative feedback in this video (I did see it in the previous video where you mentioned that You Tube changed your status) - it was the fact that you mentioned that you are trying to earn a living from You Tube and were not quite there yet - to me that was an announcement implying "I am not a success," which first of all is not true since you have completed award winning work and second of all is not very inviting to potential new clients, which should spin off of your You Tube presence (social media is a great way to achieve the quantity side of the marketing recipe and if you feature / display your talent, awards and successful work accomplishments, then you should be able to spin off paying project work. Anthony Morganti, another vlogger whom I enjoy, recently pointed out in a podcast that the value of photographs for sale has declined to virtually zero because some stock photo sites are now offering free photos such that the real value of putting your work up for free or nearly free (as you are doing with your You Tube videos) is the marketing value and the spin off project work that comes from "flaunting your talent." I think that you are a professional with a unique perspective / insight in creativity and quality work ethic that is and will be valuable to prospective clients, but all that is weakened by communicating that you are going through a "reset" in your career. Just show your "stuff" and promote and thank your sponsors including the voluntary donation site (I think that is what it is) but don't comment / imply that your are barely making a living - that is irrelevant to your true talent, which obviously Square Space feels is worth associating themselves with. All the best!
Excellent content, as always. Greetings from Croatia.
Peter McKinnon is very talented, he just has horrible millennial / instragram taste.
Chris Lucas hum, that’s debatable
Experience and constant practice will push the limits of your quality of work and ability to create. Lovely video! Thanks!
I've never watched a Peter McKinnon video, and barely know who he is, other than that people mention him a lot.
Excellent video. This is something I've struggled with myself: doing enough work to learn, while still having work good enough to generate interest in it.
Yes, he is.
In A LOT of things.
When his channel began to grow, I began to follow him. I quit after a few weeks. I really have no patience with so much screaming, convulsive editing, and lousy tips.
I mean, I do not think he's a BAD PERSON or anything.
But I really think that the QUALITY of the content of it is VERY lower than expected for someone in such a specific niche (and with so many followers)
Absolutely brilliant and supremely intelligent..! dispelling any self illusions.. and keeping it realTHANKS FOR SHARING