Rishi Sunak is ‘flailing around’ with confusing Conservative election strategies

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  • “He's completely flailing around. He doesn't know which strategy to take.”
    Peter Mandelson, Polly Mackenzie and Daniel Finkelstein join Matt Chorley to discuss whether the prime minister’s game is up or if he can find a winning strategy as the general election draws nearer.
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  • @andrewmaccallum2367
    @andrewmaccallum2367 14 днів тому +53

    2 simple rules for life;
    No.1 - Never trust a tory
    No.2 - Never forget rule number 1

  • @davidhall7744
    @davidhall7744 14 днів тому +31

    You should do a special ‘How to Lose an Election’ devoted entirely to little Rishi Rich 😂

  • @sanchezz4387
    @sanchezz4387 13 днів тому +19

    14 years of decay, eroding living standards, eroded rights, eroded services.... and yet the people who caused all that want us to believe THEY are the only people who can stop it? Abusive relationships springs to mind. Get these scumbags out

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather 10 днів тому

      The likes of Rishi Sunak are nothing but abusive partners, the kind that beat you black and blue, steal your money and cheat and lie, but beg you for another chance as ‘they’ll change’. Until the next time, and the next….

    • @EllieD.Violet
      @EllieD.Violet 9 днів тому

      It's not an abusive relationship since the electorate can simply walk away and vote for another party.
      Just imagine what happened of 100% of the electorate voted Greens, LibDems or independent candidates in the next election.

  • @Sausage1958
    @Sausage1958 14 днів тому +16

    Sunak is flailing about wildly like a non swimmer in deep water. He's utterly hopeless and desperate.

    • @EllieD.Violet
      @EllieD.Violet 9 днів тому

      He has been like this since day 1 of his premiership.

  • @chrispalmer7893
    @chrispalmer7893 14 днів тому +13

    How very Peter Mandelson-like of Peter to deny saying something he was recorded saying... I'll always remember him speaking at a conference I attendend when doing my A-Levels in 1994. I've never seen a speaker so completely misjudge an audience as he did that day - he had the whole room against him within two paragraphs, and it was an audience that was overwhelmingly pro-Labour; he just radiated a contempt and arrogance perfectly designed to inspire hostility.
    As it happens, I did eventually overcome that animosity towards him, but it took me years...

  • @MarkInOxford
    @MarkInOxford 14 днів тому +25

    All the Labour Party need to do to in order to sway those undecided voters (if there are any) is to run an ad campaign showing a black and white picture of Liz Truss, looking at her most maniacal, with the slogan “I feel I have unfinished business”. Surefire winner.

    • @Glasgow_kiss
      @Glasgow_kiss 14 днів тому +1

      or maybe a picture of dead kids in Iraq saying "remember the good times under labour"?

    • @seanoconnor8843
      @seanoconnor8843 14 днів тому +1

      At least the Torys are moving in the right direction, towards the centre with the rest of us. Starmer is out running with the skinheads because that's his idea of ordinary people

    • @persperspersp2866
      @persperspersp2866 13 днів тому

      @@Glasgow_kiss conservatives were absolutely on board with EVERYTHING George W. Bush did

    • @1669Python
      @1669Python 13 днів тому +1

      Or the Conservative party could show Starmer weakly "kneeling" for a career criminal in the USA. It goes both ways.

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 13 днів тому +1

      @@seanoconnor8843 Example?

  • @rodrigosmithico5950
    @rodrigosmithico5950 14 днів тому +44

    He's hanging on for dear life to fleece and squander every last penny the UK has

    • @maccagrabme
      @maccagrabme 13 днів тому

      Just like Labour did last time in power. Reform required.

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 13 днів тому +5

      @@maccagrabmeName anything they did that was “squandered”. Try not to get your info from wiki or the Daily Mail.

    • @Gary-le7dz
      @Gary-le7dz 12 днів тому +3

      If only we were as “ skint “ as 2010 …. Now debt trebled and debt to gdp doubled

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 12 днів тому +4

      @@Gary-le7dz that was a made up attack line by the tories. It was meant to be a joke line, that all previous incumbents used - as in left same type of letter. Yet the tories ran with it and the gullible idiotic public believed it and thus this myth was born.
      Now look at the state of things.

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather 10 днів тому

      @@Gary-le7dzand apart from the Tories’ personal wealth, can someone actually name ONE thing better today in this crumbling mess of a country that is better than in 2010? Just one thing?

  • @coastalsandwich
    @coastalsandwich 14 днів тому +27

    Charitable of you to keep Daniel on to deliver his usual bucket of dull uninspired cope.

  • @Scanini
    @Scanini 14 днів тому +10

    Imagine watching a load of gamblers in Vegas one week and then just grabbing the man who made alot of cash and appointing him PM
    I give you Rishi Sunak PM of the UK and someone completely unsuited for Prime Minister.

  • @user-zc4yd9ss7h
    @user-zc4yd9ss7h 14 днів тому +34

    He is out of his depth. Not a clue.

  • @colintofield1377
    @colintofield1377 14 днів тому +11

    No real need for a Pod on this topic. 5 words says it all "DO NOT BE A TORY"

  • @Music_Light_Show
    @Music_Light_Show 14 днів тому +8

    He should do what's best for the country and call an immediate election, instead he does what's best for Sunak and his cronies.

  • @peteratkin3788
    @peteratkin3788 14 днів тому +13

    Not sure he even cares, lets face it the longer he stays the more money him, his wife, family and donors get, its not really that difficult a concept.

  • @howardgayton2127
    @howardgayton2127 14 днів тому +10

    General Election is needed now.

  • @seanoconnor8843
    @seanoconnor8843 14 днів тому +10

    The pendulum has swung in favour of the workers at last. It's time to tell the employers how it's going to be. They have absolutely no choice. The world economy is about to explode with activity as the main populations achieve a civilised existence. A rising tide lifts all boats. The economy is no longer a problem for anybody

  • @davidcarr2216
    @davidcarr2216 13 днів тому +5

    Come in Rishi Sunak - your time is up.

  • @31Blaize
    @31Blaize 14 днів тому +6

    Putting yourself up as the change candidate followed by better the devil you know is about right for Sunak's level of competence.

  • @adblocker276
    @adblocker276 10 днів тому +1

    If a dog were struggling as much as Roshi is then the vet would say something to the effect of “… the kindest thing to do would be… “ - call the effing election already

  • @MurphyOCP-001
    @MurphyOCP-001 14 днів тому +6

    Daniel being on the show as former Executive Editor of The Times and former Executive of Policy Exchange is a massive conflict of interest. Plus his constant nonsensical contradictions of Mandelson and his incessant compium inhalation is distracting, could we please mute his mic?

  • @UochRS
    @UochRS 14 днів тому +4

    deeply unserious "winning rather than principles" mentality

  • @malcolmmitchell6529
    @malcolmmitchell6529 11 днів тому +1

    Forget an election just pack up and get out.

  • @andrewjohnclose429
    @andrewjohnclose429 13 днів тому +3

    35:00 Polly is absolutely correct about the recklessness within government, especially with regard to higher education sector. I was told last week that I was losing my job at uni. at the end of August. But I will keep my rainbow lanyard- it represents something far more profound than this government will ever achieved or represent.

  • @domhart9046
    @domhart9046 11 днів тому +1

    Mandelson remains as clueless and out of touch as this government.

  • @andrewillsley6595
    @andrewillsley6595 11 днів тому +1

    The tory lib dem labour talking about greens was just so painful. As if their parties have a clear view of what they stand for and idea of how they will get there.

  • @johnpotts8308
    @johnpotts8308 14 днів тому +2

    Can't believe they thought "Better the Devil you Know" was Sonya - it was by Kylie!

    • @redlightmax
      @redlightmax 12 днів тому

      20:52 I checked Spotify - "Better The Devil You Know" was a song by Sonia, from her album of the same name. But Kylie's song is much better.

  • @jasoncooper9391
    @jasoncooper9391 12 днів тому +2

    GET RID OF THE TORIES

  • @paulbo9033
    @paulbo9033 10 днів тому +1

    I'm a middle England, middle class man, who is an independent voter. My vote is up for grabs. I have voted Labour before and i wont be voting for them this time. Why? Precisely because of people like Mandelson's characterisation of those who are deeply troubled by our support for Israel's horrific actions in Palestine as "Corbynista left wing extremists".
    To quote Andrew Neil "if you knew how ridiculous that statement was you wouldn't have said it."

  • @user-nh5re9xr7l
    @user-nh5re9xr7l 11 днів тому +1

    To much devils in both party's

  • @IRE59
    @IRE59 14 днів тому +4

    What is Daniel Finkelsteins point, he goes round and round

  • @dixieflatline1189
    @dixieflatline1189 14 днів тому +4

    Mandy liked Russian super yachts and cheap aluminium + Mates with Prince Andrew & Epstine. Why is he getting rolled out?

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 13 днів тому

      Can you tell me your source for all that ?

    • @dixieflatline1189
      @dixieflatline1189 13 днів тому

      @@yuna-1971 passive aggressive and lazy comment. Do your own research, form an opinion, comment. Have a nice day

  • @markwelch3564
    @markwelch3564 11 днів тому +1

    People just want to be able to afford a home and a decent quality of life
    That means massively raising wages, or massively reducing the costs of housing and household bills
    Alternatively, see what "solution" the far right offer. It will be a total con, but people who are desperate may well take that chance
    Is anyone in the big parties really looking at the cost of housing and household bills?

  • @malcolmmitchell6529
    @malcolmmitchell6529 11 днів тому +1

    An unelected NIGHTMARE.

  • @zakmann1422
    @zakmann1422 13 днів тому +2

    Wow, so it's not good if Unions have input to a political party.
    However, it is to OK for companies to literally purchase MPs as lobbyists to enable those companies to gain influence over legislation.
    I must be blind, I can't see any difference in out comes between the two.

  • @Gary-le7dz
    @Gary-le7dz 14 днів тому +5

    “IS” ….. he will be voted out end of

  • @doreenhollywood7459
    @doreenhollywood7459 12 днів тому +1

    A lot of us know starmer will be just the same as sunak. We need an alternative

  • @leegregorypeck
    @leegregorypeck 14 днів тому +4

    it was Kylie not Sonya - BETTER the devil you know.

    • @CRINOTH
      @CRINOTH 14 днів тому +1

      There are two entirely different songs with that title. Kylie's is the earlier one from 1990. Sonia came 2nd in the 1993 Eurovision Song Contest with hers.

  • @DCDPM
    @DCDPM 14 днів тому +7

    I would rather have Corbynistas in my party than a Far Right Tory like Natalie Elphicke.
    I refuse to vote for a party that are willing to jam up their benches with the very people we want out of office.

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather 10 днів тому

      Elphicke is standing down at the next election

  • @aesma2522
    @aesma2522 13 днів тому +1

    In France I used to vote for the Socialists or the Greens, sometimes both (Green at the first round of the presidential election, Socialist at the second round). Then the French Greens merged with another pro environment party, that was also pro Europe and in a way more centrist, and I liked them even more. Then they turned watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside), obsessed with culture wars, trans issues, being anti business, etc., they hardly ever mention the environment. They have become unelectable as a result.

  • @dorothyb.
    @dorothyb. 14 днів тому +1

    Excellent discussion

  • @kathchandler4919
    @kathchandler4919 14 днів тому +3

    Listen, the Prime Minature is way, way out of his depth, the sooner the sTories go th3 better !

  • @chrishyde1216
    @chrishyde1216 11 днів тому

    The Green Party refused to let Ken Livingstone join.

  • @davidjames2083
    @davidjames2083 13 днів тому +2

    *Mandelson probably said "suppository". He has a one-track mind.*

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 13 днів тому

      Homophobic much?

    • @davidjames2083
      @davidjames2083 13 днів тому

      @@yuna-1971 It may seem so, but not really, I simply don't like Peter Mandelson... Sorry! 👍 ❤

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 13 днів тому

      @@davidjames2083 that’s fair enough. I think he speaks a lot of good points tbh

  • @user-sn3ch4mt4i
    @user-sn3ch4mt4i 14 днів тому +1

    The fact that Sunak ever occupied No 10 still boggles the mind brought up on an educational system based on the one left behind by the British Raj.
    Nevertheless, it was a real life the empire strikes back situation between England and India.
    However, the weakness was in the spearhead who think and behave more British than the average modern British politician. So, it won't surprise too many observers if Sunak does not survive the first real challenge that blows his way though that could very well betray a very limited understanding of modern English politics.

  • @fToo
    @fToo 10 днів тому +1

    is Mandelson being disingenuous (with his "advice" to the Greens / Tories / LDs) just to be provocative ... or because he's so tribal he can't do anything else?

  • @alaninsoflo
    @alaninsoflo 11 днів тому +1

    They clearly are scared of the Greens.

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 11 днів тому

      First they laugh at us, then they fight us, then we win

  • @user-js3rg9sj1k
    @user-js3rg9sj1k 14 днів тому +6

    PM....COULD OPEN A RESTURANT.

  • @jeffsmith3392
    @jeffsmith3392 14 днів тому +1

    Look at them through the glass window again… the cast of the inbetweeners!

  • @RichardStephens-bt6or
    @RichardStephens-bt6or 10 днів тому

    Jesus how bad can times journalism get.

  • @rosemarycuthbert4623
    @rosemarycuthbert4623 14 днів тому +3

    I can't listen to this tripe

  • @nicksimmons7234
    @nicksimmons7234 14 днів тому +1

    Pretty funny now the Unions and Labour have come out and they agree and it’s not been watered down.

  • @davidwilliams5124
    @davidwilliams5124 7 днів тому

    Good to see rishi sunak apologising to the victims of the taited blood scandal ,perhaps he can reinforce this with some on going revolutionary legal action ,insuring that all politicians ,civil servants ,andgovernment departures must be legally bound to report any dishonesty or potential cover up ,relzting to their actions regarding citizens . YOU HAVE BEEN AN ABJECT FAILURE ,EVEN FOR YOUR OWN PARTY ,GO OUT WITH A MODICUM OF ACHIEVEMENT AND LET ACTION IN THIS AREA BE A LEGACY OF RESPECT AND SAFETY ,FOR THE CITIZENS YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY FAILED THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF GOVT SERVICE

  • @benmayhew2K
    @benmayhew2K 12 днів тому

    He's good at spread sheets n that's about it.

  • @sparkskie
    @sparkskie 14 днів тому +3

    Clicked so fast…. Couldn’t wait after his nonsense speech

  • @Broomfondle1
    @Broomfondle1 13 днів тому +4

    Problem is, Starmer is the Devil in waiting. The Devil has two faces, one Tory the other one Labour.
    It couldn't be that clearer!

    • @juliegreen640
      @juliegreen640 12 днів тому +1

      What a load of tosh!! But it's made me laugh!!!😂😂

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather 10 днів тому +1

      Give me Starmer over Sunak any day

  • @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527
    @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527 13 днів тому +1

    The area of workers rights that is needed is unions in contract labour and IT as the near slavery in gaming firms is literally destroying the industry with shareholders with unrealistic expectations.

  • @garyhaines8385
    @garyhaines8385 11 днів тому

    Daniel Finkelstein must have been a very frustrating adviser he just goes round and round in endless circles never reaching a conclusion.

  • @Cherrytune386
    @Cherrytune386 14 днів тому

    Yes

  • @nicks4934
    @nicks4934 13 днів тому

    Strategy?

  • @jonahacquah2785
    @jonahacquah2785 14 днів тому

    His game was over before it started. The policies did him in from the get go.

  • @anthonymcnamee6297
    @anthonymcnamee6297 13 днів тому

    Not him

  • @anglodoomer5995
    @anglodoomer5995 14 днів тому +4

    Imagine taking moral lectures from Epsteins mate Peter Mandelson

  • @markpallister9882
    @markpallister9882 14 днів тому +2

    😂WELCOME TO STARMERGEDDON 😂

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 13 днів тому

      How so? What policies don’t you agree with?

    • @LesHentschel-hk2hd
      @LesHentschel-hk2hd 13 днів тому +1

      Things can only get better with Starmer.

    • @yuna-1971
      @yuna-1971 12 днів тому

      @@LesHentschel-hk2hd ABSOLUTELY! 🌹🌹🌹 bring on the landslide

  • @maryg124
    @maryg124 14 днів тому

    💯💯💯💯

  • @Not00
    @Not00 11 днів тому

    Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

  • @baltasarnoreno5973
    @baltasarnoreno5973 13 днів тому

    'Better the devil you know' was Kylie.

  • @gjthomas9770
    @gjthomas9770 14 днів тому +6

    Rishi Sunak is making angrier and angrier. I have never voted, but I will be voting Labour. I can't be gaslit by that man anymore 😢

  • @s.m.sadekurrahman4538
    @s.m.sadekurrahman4538 13 днів тому

    He should not be pm

  • @user-ww9uo5jz6n
    @user-ww9uo5jz6n 14 днів тому

    Sorry just realised this is TR . I'm out. Ta Ta

  • @rodstelon
    @rodstelon 13 днів тому +1

    I don't have time for idiotic chatter.

  • @chinmaykapasia4806
    @chinmaykapasia4806 13 днів тому

    MSCChinmaykapasia

  • @andrewbrinkman6967
    @andrewbrinkman6967 11 днів тому +1

    what's wrong with u people???

  • @rosemarycuthbert4623
    @rosemarycuthbert4623 14 днів тому +2

    Vile commentary from an entitled dismissive Toraidh

  • @robertgough5804
    @robertgough5804 10 днів тому

    Too slimy god awful peter meddlesome

  • @user-bu9nb8wr6e
    @user-bu9nb8wr6e 14 днів тому +2

    He was fine in his role in The Jungle Book, but playing the PM, he is out of his depth.

  • @TimesFM4532
    @TimesFM4532 14 днів тому +1

    Sunak may change Squtting laws to stay in number 10

  • @willhovell9019
    @willhovell9019 14 днів тому

    Mandy is riding the shirt tails of Starmer. Matt is such a lightweight, and the only serious person is Danny F, I'm a Labour supporter and party member

  • @chrispalmer7893
    @chrispalmer7893 14 днів тому

    Re. Elphicke - whilst I wouldn't argue she behaved well in relation to her husband's case, I'm slightly surprised that it's apparently impossible for anyone to even attempt a degree of understanding. We all support the importance of making sure that victims feel they'll be believed if they come forward, but surely we get that the offender's wife might at least initially not react that way. She probably wouldn't have been with him if she'd thought him capable of that behaviour? In cases like this, the spouses and family of offenders are in a sense secondary victims, and I think we should have a tiny bit of empathy for the idea that it might take them a while to come round to accepting the truth of the allegations.

  • @crimeajewel
    @crimeajewel 14 днів тому +2

    You need a tax system that benefits entrapraneurs. Otherwise more decline masked by deficit spenting.

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 11 днів тому

      Do you mean landlords, or entrepreneurs? They're not the same thing

  • @Bazball-vg2bh
    @Bazball-vg2bh 12 днів тому

    Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧

  • @seanoconnor8843
    @seanoconnor8843 14 днів тому

    I think the tide has turned. Whatever you say about Sunak he measures up to Starmer all of a sudden. Everything seems to have changed

    • @brianm.9062
      @brianm.9062 14 днів тому +4

      which tide are you looking at? its not the one the rest of the country is looking at.

    • @seanoconnor8843
      @seanoconnor8843 14 днів тому +1

      @@brianm.9062 I tell you. Starmer has taken the Labour party outside and shot it. People are forced to reassess their views now. The shock is only just being felt

    • @dj_cakes
      @dj_cakes 14 днів тому +1

      @@seanoconnor8843 hahaha

    • @thomasmoore1499
      @thomasmoore1499 14 днів тому

      @@seanoconnor8843 You are a nut

    • @seanoconnor8843
      @seanoconnor8843 14 днів тому

      @@dj_cakes it crushed me

  • @anglosaxonbreed
    @anglosaxonbreed 14 днів тому +1

    Tory will wn . Not labour.

    • @swanvictor887
      @swanvictor887 14 днів тому +12

      awwww bless.... forgot to take your meds again or is this just you, grieving?

    • @TheGava4
      @TheGava4 14 днів тому +9

      NUUUUUURRRSE😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

    • @RichWizard07
      @RichWizard07 14 днів тому +5

      🤣😂🤣

    • @meltodd4103
      @meltodd4103 14 днів тому +4

      😂😂😂

    • @brianm.9062
      @brianm.9062 14 днів тому +2

      nice one, had me going for a minute I actually thought you meant it. ;)

  • @Nasher-cd1eb
    @Nasher-cd1eb 14 днів тому +1

    Of course little imps time is up, but why have Dracula's brother himself on to say so ....

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 14 днів тому

      It's entertaining he wound up the Greens last week

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 11 днів тому

      ​@@SlowhandGregI found it very informative to know that Mandelson sees no place in Labour for the sort of policies that would be moderate centre-left social democracy in the Nordic countries

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 11 днів тому

      @@markwelch3564 when did he say that been listening to the podcasts?

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 11 днів тому

      @@SlowhandGreg because he's derogatory towards "corbynistas" - but the Corbyn platform was entirely unremarkable moderate social democrat policy

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 11 днів тому

      @markwelch3564 it was rewinding Thatcherism for ideological reasons while spending well over a trillion doing it.
      If you want to have public ownership of say energy then build replacement capacity as its needed don't buy old clapped out coal stations or gas standby stations.