Skiing in Aspen - Longmont (KLMO) to Aspen (KASE) in a Mooney
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2020
- In this video, I share one of my favorite things about owning an airplane: skiing day trips! My brother (Schuyler) joins us on this flight to/from Aspen. En route I share some basic mountain flying knowledge with him and even grant an opportunity to fly the Mooney. A day trip to Aspen by car would take a grueling 8 hours (under the best of circumstances). The Mooney shortens this trip to just 50 minutes each way. Enjoy!
You deserve far more subscribers than you have based upon the quality and interesting video content for us Pilots. They'll find their way to you, just keep up the good work!
Thanks Leo, I appreciate the support!
We need to get your subscriptions up. That was an awesome video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!
Awesome job! Really enjoyed watching this one. Great memories!
Outstanding! Thank you both -
Our pleasure!
Just started following recently, good quality and interesting videos. Thanks for doing the work for us to enjoy here in Brasil!
Welcome aboard! Glad you're enjoying them.
Thanks for giving me some insight into mountain flying - guy from FL
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the great flight to Aspen. Back in what seems like another lifetime, I ski-bummed a winter in Aspen, then moved on to the SF Bay Area and flew an M20F for several years, including many times into the Sierra mountains.
Thanks Malcolm. I have dreamed of ski-bumming an entire winter in Aspen. For now, I have to settle for the occasional (weather permitting) day trip.
I have a 20B in pre-buy and was wondering about fitting my skis, perfect! Thanks!
Joe, I can fit my 188's in my 'C model. Shove the tips back into the hat rack, put the tails behind the co-pilot seat. I lash them down to prevent any surprises in flight.
Love your videos. My first Mooney was an M20S that I hangared at KAPA. Your videos remind me of great times that I had flying in the beautiful state of Colorado. I now fly an M20R and my primary mission is between KIWS (Houston) and KFFZ in AZ. All Mooneys are great airplanes and they’re about the best value around for a safe and fun cross country airplane.
Thanks Donald. Couldn't agree more. One would need to look at the Experimental category to get any more for your money than a Mooney.
I fly a 59 A model have several hundred hrs and 1500 plus landings and enjoy every minute watching what you are doing. I have no mountain flying experience and so very much appreciate you sharing these videos. Mike 20 papa, funny the controller didn't get it. Lots of Mooney drivers don't either. N8335e
Thanks for reaching out Joe and letting me know. Cheers!
Awesome videos. Thanks for putting the time and effort to share with us. I am a Colorado Pilot, you inspired me to trade my C182RG for a M20R, just got it 2 weeks ago. Can't wait for this snow to clear so I can keep learning my new bird. Hope to see you in the skies soon . Based at BJC
That’s awesome Tavo! I must admit, I’m a little jealous. I’d love to go for a ride in the M20R. I'd be curious to hear how it compares to the 182RG.
That was awesome
Thanks Michael!
Awesome video.
Chris Eaves thanks a lot!
Great video. I'm currently going for my private license and learning out of KLMO. It's wild to see how much different the flying gets just a few miles west... Hopefully I'll see you out there one day
Keep up the training. I'll look for you out there Small Pictures :)
Nice video and narration!
Thanks Tim. Glad you liked it!
Subbed. Follow many aviation content creators, and this one day popped up on my feed. Great.
Thanks Chandler. Welcome aboard!
Cannot disagree with Leo, quality content and I think the format is the winning formula. Only negative is that I think you need another go pro to capture a that beautiful Colorado mountain scenery! Just my humble opinion from a fan in the UK.
Thanks Midlife PPL, I actually had a camera going under the wing but it died shortly after crossing the Divide due to the cold. This was 3 months ago. I've learned from my mistake and now power my outside cameras in-flight. My next videos won't have that problem :)
Wish the video would've continued for the beautiful sunset over the Rockies! Stumbled on to your channel a few weeks ago and enjoy the content! Wish there was one more camera to capture some of that beautiful Colorado Rocky Mountain scenery! Keep up the great work and safe flying!
Thanks pilotguy! In my recent videos I add more external camera action. Without an external power source the GoPro freezes after only 15 minutes of flying. Now I power them in flight to capture the entire flight.
@@ManandaMooney Wanted to also say I appreciate how you explain what you're looking for as you fly through the mountains. Flatlander pilot here who wants to get some mountain training one of these days, so appreciate the explanations of why you do what you do in many of your videos! Again, great content! :)
Do had a 1965 M20E. This is awesome.
Glad you enjoyed it Anthony
Pursuing my first M20C, love the channel - subscribed! Quick question: what shoulder belts are those? The one I'm looking at has lap belts only, want to get shoulder belts installed ASAP.
Hey Nik, sorry for the slow reply... I think they are Alpha Aviation inertial reels. I'd have to check my logbooks to be sure.
Your videos are very informing and educational. As a sport pilot who hopes to fly into aspen one day, I feel like I recieved a non instructor brief for mountain flying. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback Maurice. If you wait for the right day - winds, density altitude, visibility, etc. It’s well within reach. Be advised, while Aspen is classified as Delta airspace, it can be busier than many Charlie airports. Be sure you’re comfortable with your radios.
@@ManandaMooney thanks for the advice. I am working on ground instructor certificate and then light sport instructor. Lots to learn! You are doing a great job of letting the videos speak for themselves and not drown out valuable info with music. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Hey Christian! Hey, nice to find your channel! New subscriber!
Thanks Columbia 350, Welcome aboard! Love your plane, I've always had a thing for the 350/400.
I’m based in the Monterey Bay Area if you happen to be flying in California (KWVI)
Enjoyed the video. Thank you. Have a couple of questions if you don’t mind. I saw the 2 Garmin G5’s but didn’t see the primary AH, etc. How that?. Also how come you didn’t cross the hold short line 15/33 before calling up ground. Not sure if regs are different in the US but in Canada we cross thus vacating the runway environment and then make the call to ground. Thanks again.
Hi Flyboy, you’re right, I should have cleared the runway... The reason I didn’t is because that intersection at A4 is a notoriously busy spot. It sits right between the non-movement area and the restricted area of the terminal. It took me all of 2 secs to call ground and make sure I was cleared into Atlantic. Regarding your other question about the G5’s… They’re certified to be used as my primary Attitude and HSI in the Mooney. I still have a primary Airspeed and Altimeter.
Recently discovered your channel and subscribed. Fantastic content. Love your knowledge of the Colorado mountains, the names of the peaks and towns. Question on this video, at the end: it appeared you stopped and called ground before crossing the hold short bars, didn’t “dash across” and were thus not clear of the runway. Maybe? Or was something else going on. Keep up the great content. I’m based in Texas but a friend and I just secured a hangar in Alamosa (he has mountain property not far from La Veta pass) and plan to fly there often in our turbo retract 182.
Thanks Troy, glad you’re enjoying the videos. Re: the hold-short bars you’re right, I failed to “dash across”. I already turned off the runway when tower asked me to “turn right when able”. In an effort to relay that quickly and concisely I said “clear at A4” …probably should have said “CLEARING at A4”. One thing to note about that intersection: it’s contiguous to the non-movement area and the commercial traffic restricted area. It took me all of 3 seconds to check in with ground and clarify where they wanted me to go. Thanks for watching and hopefully making me a better pilot.
@@ManandaMooney I plugged your page on several Texas aviator groups, hopefully you’ll pick up some new subscribers and views. Keep up the great work, and congratulations on your new son!
Super cool and well done. You have given me confidence to take my C to Colorado! Just curious, how did you get 64 gallon tanks? Mine has 52. Is that with bladders?
Thank you Eric. Yes, I have the O&N bladder conversion.
That's a great day. Wondering what changes, if any, you made to your route and altitudes going home given it looked like it'd be dark by Kremling if not before.
Tom, we pretty much retraced our steps. It remained twilight until we crossed the Divide. We were blessed with a full-moon that night and with the snow on the ground we had great visibility. I think I popped up to 14k for the return. It's a route I fly about once a month, so it's very familiar to me.
just found your channel, like every one that's ever been to Aspen, you drive by the airport after a long day of driving and think "I wish " do you have to have reservations to park over night and do they charge like a parking garage ? Thanks for sharing
Welcome aboard woof! Speaking from experience, a 50 minute flight beats the 4+ hour drive any day.
I wanna know how you fit your skis and boards in your Mooney and if it's possible to fit 4 setups and 4 people. I've only tried with 4 snowboards in a 182 but needed to take the bindings off. Also! I fly out of KBJC!
Cameron, There's no way I'd be able to fit 4 people and 4 sets of skis in the Mooney. I rarely fly in the mountains with more than one passenger. My plane just doesn't have the performance figures to comfortably support it. For loading, I put the tips into the "hat rack" area, and the tails sit right against front seat backs. I throw a ratchet strap around them to prevent ski's/poles from becoming projectiles.
I think another video detailing your departure procedure from KASE would be valuable to the GA community. So many people get in trouble flying out of there and there have been a number of fatal accidents over the years from folks in non-turbo piston singles like yours flying into canyons on the departure that they don't have the climb performance to get out of.
I've thought about making a video like that for a while. I'll see if I can bump it up in my queue. My recommendation is to ALWAYS depart "down valley" from ASE. That's following the Roaring Fork valley NW towards Carbondale and Glenwood Springs. ATC is very familiar with that request and often expects it from pistons.
Great video! Any chance you could enumerate the route you take? Tried to work it out during the video but I think I'm missing a few details. Would love to try this in MSFS.
Sure N M, It was basically Longmont (KLMO), Boulder (KBDU), Kremmling VOR (RLG), Red Table VOR (DBL), direct to Aspen (KASE). However, just before we get to the Red Table VOR Aspen approach cleared me to fly south (heading 180) then direct to the town of Aspen (SE direction). I flew the backside of Red Mountain and into the town of Aspen from the East. From there, a simple right turn has you lined up for RW33. Enjoy!
@@ManandaMooney fantastic! Thank you very much.
Always enjoy your Mooney videos , very nice scene. I notice that in this video you answer to approach the your Mooney is a M20P, can you describe it. I looking around and I see M20A, 20B, 20C ,20D ,20E , 20F 20J 20K but can find one under 20P.
Good question David. As far as ATC is concerned, I have an "M20P". There are two primary designations for Mooney's in the system - M20P (naturally aspirated), and M20T (turbo). The reason for this difference is performance - namely climb and cruise. Examples of M20Ps are the A,B,C,D,E,F,J,R. Examples of M20Ts are the K,M,Acclaim, or any of the aforementioned variants with an aftermarket turbo.
@@ManandaMooney Thanks for your reply but I give an example of an airplane I was following one day in FlightAware . In FlightAware I put his N number and it was showing a M20P instead of a M20C but when I see his registration it shows a M20C .
@@DavidGonzalez-ry6zz Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. FlightAware (or ATC) will refer to the M20-A,B,C,D,E,F,J,R as an "M20P". Registration will be the actual model, tracking/filing will be either a "P" or "T".
@@ManandaMooney Thank you so much for your clarification and prompt reply . keep up the good job, your videos are truly an inspiration.
Whats a M20 Papa model? Think ATC was just as confused haha. Thanks
Michael, as far as ATC is concerned, all the Mooney models (A, B, C, D, E, K, J…) can be distilled into two categories. 1) M20P “papa” naturally aspirated Mooney , or 2) M20T “ tango” turbo Mooney.
wow, high altitude mountain flying in a Mooney. Not for me. I need more power. Great video. Thanks
Thanks Robert. That's basically the premise behind the entire channel... Showing people you don't need a high-performance aircraft to fly safely in the mountains. Training, education, and mountain flying knowledge can help compensate for the lack of performance.
Outstanding video! Do they charge if you want to keep an aircraft at Atlantic for a day?
Thanks Drake! Yes, it's about $40 to pull up to Atlantic's ramp. While I wish they would wave the fees for us little-guys, I respect that they have a business to run. To their credit, I always receive excellent service no mater how busy they are.
@@ManandaMooney Awesome! Love the channel. You're living the dream, I want to move back to CO after my schooling is done but the second half does not lol.
Does your gear really go up that quickly, or was the video sped up? Dumb question from a fixed gear Cirrus pilot. Great videos sir!
Sclera, that was real-time - the gear actually goes up that fast. I have a “Johnson Bar” Mooney which is a completely manual system. The landing gear operation loosely resembles a handbrake in a car. The gear moves as fast as the operator’s arms. While it may look like showing off, it behooves a Mooney pilot to get the gear up ASAP after takeoff because it becomes harder to operate as airspeed increases. If something goes wrong, and you need to abort a takeoff, it only takes about a half second to get the gear back down again.
@@ManandaMooney Very cool system! I can get my Cirrus gear to go up that quick also but it involves a really hard landing. :). Liked and subscribed.
Hey man can if you had a float plane can you fly into a mountain lake or nah?
Unfortunately, Colorado has some of the strictest laws regarding seaplanes. There are a number of initiatives in the works to help alleviate these restrictions but for now, not really.
That paint is sliiiiiiick!
Thanks Alex!
@@ManandaMooney if ya ever wanna do show and tell out in fort Morgan I’ll bring the coffee…
@@the-not-bigkuhrbowsky4869 cool. That's a short hop for me. I'll let you know.
What specific Mooney model is N7164U ? Thanks DJ
I flew both M20F & M20G
She's a 1964 M20C
How's this camera mounted?
Hi King_Khan, The interior cam is on a suction cup. The exterior cam is on the tie-down.
100+ knot winds aloft. That would make for one fast Mooney
Eastbound, yes. Westbound, about 30 knots over the ground, hahah. In either case, not somewhere you would want to be. The rotor and turbulence is extreme > 50 knots.