Survival/Camping Fire Starting Kit: Stickin' With What Works
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you know... your always straight forward and simple information that we can really use!! thanks again and blessings sir!!
Thanks, I try to always be a straight shooter with you all!
When I first started making fire kits years ago I would have 12 different ways to make fire. It was fun, but all I actually needed was a Bic lighter, fero rod, cotton balls with Vaseline, and a piece of fatwood (in case the cotton got wet). You are the only person I have seen on UA-cam who pared your kit down to what you know works. Thanks for showing it. I DID have a lot of fun seeing how many different ways I could get a fire going though, and will not knock someone for doing the same. I just agree with you though.
Finally a word of reason. 2-3 fire starters and one good tinder. Most videos on YT show fire kits in 1-2lbs size!! Why do people need 5 fire sources and 7 different tinders in mini baggies? Do you sprinkle them on your bonfire so it will have different taste?
This is so close to my system. Mini bic with waterproof matches and tinder plugs in waterproof container, and a firerod on my knife.
It comes down to having a few things in my opinion:
1 - a reliable sparking device
2 - 2 reliable sources of instant flames (matches/lighter)
3 - a water proof tinder / flame extender source
For me that takes this form:
1 - Firesteel + Carbide Blade Sharpener for a striker
2 - UCO Matches + Lighter (I use a NuMyth or a Bic)
3 - Wax/PJ infused cotton type starter (I'm using PJ/Cotton balls in Beeswax or Mini Infernos depending on the kit)
I usually have something else with me to "play" with ( fire piston, fresnal lens, etc.), but this is what I have for "my life depends on this fire). The Trioxane is a good idea for extreme conditions, I should probably add one of those to my kit. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for a look at your "go-to's", Aaron. My kit is similar. "Sure Fire" is my motto. My rule of a kit is 3... three ways of ignition, and 3 types of tinder/extender. Ignition: Bic Lighter, Ferro Rod, and Stormproof Matches. Tinder/Extender: Trioxane Bars (we used to heat our C-Ration cans with these trioxane bars (dating myself). For cotton balls... I carry mine dry as well, and add a tube of vaseline lip therepy (it's white petroleum jelly) to the kit. Dab some into the cotton ball as an extender. Works very well this way. My third tinder is either Wet Fire or Weber Fire Cubes (same stuff). I get longer burn times with the weber cubes (and they are big-time cheaper). I just wrap each one in celophane to keep them fresh. I do carry a small 5x power magnifying lens in my kits as well. I can start a lot of stuff on fire in a couple minutes with good sun. Throwing a spare ferro rod and bic lighter into pockets of your clothing or other places in a pack is always a great idea as well, for redundancy. BTW... I use the very same Husky pouches for my kit bags. Keep on keepin on with what works! Thanks again. Luv your channel. Everyone should subscribe!
Thanks so much for mentioning Trioxane! I was able to find it in Army Navy surplus stores here in West Virginia 60 plus years ago, after my Army Veteran uncles showed me how to use it, and I don't know any of my fellow Scouts who didn't use it. When I see it, I'll grab some.
Really good, not overdone, not overly critical presentation. Thanks!
Great vid. Very practical. In addition to having a fire 'kit' When going into the wilderness, I like to have something a pocket of every piece of clothing that can start a fire. It might be just a book of matches in a ziplock, but I like to have stuff spread out in case I get separated from my primary pack.
Very good ideas. Stick with what works. Alternately, try new things as often as circumstances allow so you can find new things that work, but for emergency kits keep what works. My 72 hour emergency kits all have: A knife I know will be good quality (Benchmade, Spyderco, or a REALLY Old Schrade,) A brand of tarp I have used and know the performance of regardless of weather conditions, Food I know I can eat that will be palatable and nutritious, spare clothes I know to be good quality things like that. Regular camping trips are where I try new things like lights, fire starting tools, a new pair of boots, I'll use them when I know I'll have an extra if the new item doesn't work.
On the bottom of your match case, if yours is like mine, it is not a striker, but rather a small fero rod. To use, leave it on the case and scrape like a regular fero rod. I have heard that some are just magnesium to help get a fire going in wet conditions (scrape into a small pile and use a fero rod or match/lighter for a quick, very hot flame). I like the fact that your kit is simple and has enough to get several fires going even in wet conditions. My first kit had 12 different things to start fire with! Not needed, but I had fun making the kit. Thanks for showing your kit to us.
Simple and easy. Yeah, I see some of these UA-camrs with fire kits the size of a small backpack and I just keep thinking "who would actually carry that?". You've got my kit but I added one of those little magnesium blocks, a good pocket knife, and some x-large alcohol pads which flare up nice for about 15 seconds and take up no room.
of all the other fire kits this is the best one I've ever seen
Another great video. I believe the same as you, take what works, not everything that works. I had fun making a fire kit years ago, and had 10+ ways to make fire. Now it is just a fero rod, lighter, fatwood, and cotton balls with Vaseline. I really only need fatwood though. It works every time. Thanks for sharing.
Nice kit for a day hike sir. May I suggest putting Vaseline in small pieces of straws with ends melted shut? A piece small enough to fit in an Altoids smalls tin is enough for 2-3 cotton balls and takes up no room. Also, the mini bics with the electric ignition work better in the rain and cold. I've had to "pleasure" of learning this first hand. Lol. Regular bics work but the other ones with just a bit better. Take Care and Be Aware
Nice!
Fun Fact: The UCO Titan Stormproof Matches (as is shown in this video) were featured in the May edition of Field & Stream magazine. They were featured in an article detailing putting toghether the perfect survival kit, and were recommended in every single kit with the exception of the boating survival kit (because matches are the last thing you're probably going to need in a life boat).
Glad to hear that!
Simple and effective kit.
Well rounded fire kit, small & light too. Mine is very similar.
2:55 ... so far it's just one long commercial/advertisement for a single brand new product! "sticking with what works?"
3:00 cotton balls for tinder - OK! How about a pencil sharpener? You can make as much tinder as you can find twigs! [Or keep 3 or 4 pencil size dowels in your kit, as long as will fit.]
4:14 matches - good for secondary fire starter option. I'd keep as back-up.
4:40 lighter - always your primary tool! (carry 3 - pocket, pack, haversack. Amazon 3-pack = $2,37! (Oh, yes, keep at least 2 of them in Zip-lock bags!)
5:40 ferro rod; probably number 1 secondary fire starter.
Note: What I always seem to miss a bit is fire extenders. It's fine to produce the spark and get it going. But keeping it going is where many people really struggle - that going from tinder to kindling quickly or surely enough. Probably the simplest is the humble candle! There are many variations on this theme but EVERY fire kit ought to have some sort of candle, or tea lights. Even very small tinder flames can get one alight and then you're fine, and the pressure is off, which is like gold in a survival situation. Used like this, a candle can be used dozens of times, and is very easy (and cheap) to replace back home.
Just some ideas that actually work in practice.
Cheers, mate!
Back in the day, we would put half of a trioxane on top of the little tin of peanut butter that came in the C-Rations. The trioxane would burn fir ten minutes and the peanut oil would burn for almost an hour.
Made a nice little flame for the canteen cup stove.
Say Heah Aaron, I like to carry a couple of road flares when I scout a new area out, When I use a 3day pack I defenetly take two, With my Haverstraw then I might take one. It's a very practical way to start a emergency fire that might save your life too. I also have a Grizzly Firestarter Magnuson Rod, It also comes with a lifetime warranty
nothin like simplicity. Glad I stocked up on mil surp trioxane when it was cheap.
I think have a kit with: a small butane lighter, a ferro rod+striker, and one style of lighter than uses accelerant such as a Permanent Match or a Zippo or a Peanut lighter. And carry a good bit of tinder that's super easy to light. Make some of it a chemical tinder like Trioxane, Esbit cubes, Wetfire, Tinder Quik, Infernos, etc. . And apart from the fire kit, carry a duplicate method to start fire. Such as another Bic lighter. An EXOTAC - nanoSTRIKER XL looks like a very robust backup fire starter. Other than Storm matches, I don't like matches.
Nice. I carry a similar kit. I have a mini bic, UCO matches and a ferro rod too, although I also carry regular strike anywhere matches too. I like vaseline and cotton but I like to use pads because if you only coat one side and roll them, they fit in a medical sample pot and don't make a mess. I might pick up some of that trioxane stuff for in emergency kits.
I like to carry both a standard bic and one of the electric ones because the electric ones work while wet but the standard ones don't. However the standard ones can be used an a spark wheel once they run out so imo it's worth having both
Yep, I too go with what works for me, wooden matches, BIC lighters, a good ferro rod, waxed jute twine and vaselined cotton balls. Also Coleman fire starter sticks are great.
Nice system!
My favorite cheap fire starting tinder is dryer lint.
Nice simple kit. Only thing I would add is a backup ferro rod and/or lighter stored elsewhere. If you lose the whole bag out of a bag or pocket, building a bow drill set when it's cold/wet/dark won't be fun.
I always carried a Zippo lighter as part of my firestarter kit because the one drawback to disposable lighters is that they use butane gas which does not like cold weather they can sometimes be temprimental whereas Zippo lighters work in all weathers all you have to do is carry a spare flint in the base of the lighter and a small can of petrol
Nice to see a down to earth channel, and i could not agree more with Sticking with What works... I have added a magnesium bar, a fire piston, and a magnifying glass to the my kit but anyone who could not get a fire going with the kit you are demonstrating here has no business in the boonies alone for sure...
Good basic kit that works and isn't to spendy! I like it. I want to make some for the car and different kits. When I bushcraft I have a few bics on me along with a fire steel and a Hudson Bay tobacco tin with flint and steel, char cloth, and the built in magnifying glass. This kit would be a good spare kit for my back pack etc.
Awesome fire kit review. Thanks for sharing it! Lots of good ideas.
Simple, yet extremely effective. Excellent kit my friend.
The sign of another man's intelligence is how much he agrees with me.
I have not used the UCO matches, have some on order. Everything else you say, I agree although I do have one of the 1/2"x6" ferro rods that I like using with my Light My Fire More, just to keep the LMF steel in the knife as a backup.
I just carry a large nylon bag with a zipper on it. As I hike around I collect natural tinders and fill it up. I take more than I need, so if the next time I'm hiking and its wet out, I'm covered. I've got old man's beard, dried grass, birch bark, cedar scrapings, fat wood... you name it. At the bottom of the bag lies a ferro rod and lighter.
"Fire kits" never really made sense to me. The forest has plenty of tinder, and its free
I took my Foodsaver Vacuum Sealer and sealed 4 BIC lighters individually for my fire kits. BUT no matter what you carry as a fire kit, if you're in the woods, a BIC and (a Ferro rod or magnesium bar) should always be in your pants pockets since the number 1 killer is exposure. I also believe a good folding knife and a compass should always be in your other pocket.
I concur with you sir. If it works , don't switch it up. I use the same Husky pouches you get at Home Depot . You get 3 sizes , but sure wish I could find the red ones like you have, all mine are black .
These are the old husky bag, I don't think they do the colors anymore
I like my fire starter kit to be reliable, redundant, flexible, resilient and diverse so I carry a red Bic, a yellow Bic and an orange Bic. Two on my person and one in the pack. When I want to get really crazy I add one of those fancy multicolored pattern Bics. My mini backup kit has a pink mini Bic for when I'm feeling a bit cheeky.
Haha nice!
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@Duffelbag Drag you apperently dont know how to dry a soaked ligther in 20 sec
I would recommend taping the sides and the top if the lighter so it doesn't break or reease gas if it gets pressed, i would also take some pliers and remove the top spring for child proofing, it gets easier to strike in the cold
i usually have a lighter or two, a ferro rod or two, and then i also use the cotton balls with vaseline. i carry matches too just in case, but i usually opt for a rod and a dry cotton ball just because the vaseline makes things almost too easy sometimes. that stuff will extend the flame on a cotton ball for like an extra 3-4 minutes, which is plenty of time to get a fire going in my area.
Great kit love it.
Best Fire lighting method for me, is my ray mears "firestick" and cotton wool ball. worst is the tops bob shango notch i get more sparks on a cheap survival paracord bracelet
dryer lint is free and works great
I agree...Stay simple...And what works...
Throw in a tea candle or 2. Makes a great long lasting flame to light a fire if the tender is damp.
the vasaline actually becomes the primary fuel, just like a candle
great common sense, basic information. love it. thanks.
No problem!
+gideonstactical have you ever used a ferro rod that throws gobs of metal like the ust strikeforce
Like the video. Your equipment is short and sweet and really that works. Watched another video before yours and his fire kit had to cost couple hundred dollars. Electric arc lighters, special containers, special bag that said fire kit. Just on and on. For my b.o.b., just need what works and couple different ways to make fire. Some folks just get crazy with the stuff, its not even funny. Anyway thanks for video.
very nice lots of choices
Tri-Ox is great. I have never used it in an emergency but I have tested it.
Great video. Very helpful tips. You're a great teacher. Keep it up.
One person is a "ding-dong".
Great video, as always.
I have almost the same stuff in my fire kit. Only difference is that mine is in one of those plastic waterproof cases. And I have wet fires instead of those trioxane things. They look pretty sweet though, I might have to pick some up.
+Steve Smith Wet Fires are good tabs, but in my experience the Triox catches a spark and starts much, much easier than Wet Fire. The kind of cotton-y rod-shaped things like the UST Light Me Tinder or SOL Tinder Quik are about the same as the Wet Fire for catching sparks but they're a little less space when packed. Just remember to pull them apart a little to give more surface area.
+Steve Smith One other thing about the Triox, though - after almost a decade of being bounced around from home to home in Alaska, most of my Triox bars got broken and almost half of them disintegrated to almost nothing. I don't know if the foil packs got little holes or what, but almost half were gone. My Esbit tablets were all still together. (I think the Wet Fire and Esbit are chemically almost the same.)
Rodger Pitts also burns longer. I use webber lighter cubes. 20min burn on them. Sometimes. On a good day with some TLC they will burn for 25 to 30 min at MOST...
You made it through a video without sayin "I'm Rockin"! great info but if I'm carrying a pouch that size I'd jam it full of fire items. Thanks.
In my kit I carry a altoid tin for coton ball, so I can make charcoal on the go too
Very nice! My kit is similar, though I cary fatwood rather than the trioxane. I guess I need to pick up some of the latter :)
Thanks for another great, common sense video! Blessings!
Trioxane, don't leave home without it.
agreed !
Nice kit, thanks for the review
Really good info mate, thanks a lot, cheers.
Thank you for the video.
Most Excellent! Thanks!
I prefer to just take a bright orange Bic lighter.
I use a black Bic because then it's tactical.
+ogenmatic Yeah the black ones do look more tactical, but if you drop it at night its going to be hard to find it.
That's what I have to start doing. Sticking to what works instead of trying all the new stuff all the time.
Ya buddy!
Great video atb John
Thanks!
you can make storm matches yourself with a match, toilette paper and candle wachs. works ggod as well...and is cheap ;)
I saw that recently, fun but time consuming to make.
yeah and it's real messie XD
on a side note, I know that you like Moras and so do I. I've got several. but, have you ever done a test on the Martinii. I've also got a couple of those. they seem to be of decent quality.
I did about two years ago, they are good but I will stick with my moras for now.
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I always use white bic lighters since you can see how much fuel they have left in them
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Hi Aaron, thank you so much for your great videos! I never came across Trioxane before, here in Germany. So I did some research and found out something that I wanted to share: Trioxane can react to Formaldehyde under certain conditions and it produces some nasty fumes. So keep that in mind when you're using it.
Take care
Chris
The link is only for the firesteel FYI
Thx, I will try to fix it today
Trioxane works great as long as you don't care about the off gassed formaldehyde.
Doesn't seem to bother me
The link doesn't show where to buy the husky bag
BIC LIGHTER ALL DAY.....NUFF SAID.......
Where did you get the red pouch?
#DingDong
I would add a magnifying glass
How is the Light my fire for feather sticks
where did you get the husky pouch?
no fatwood?
any ideas where to find this husky pouches ? i looked all over the internet but so far no luck.
+A.K ian Home Depot.
Can you tell me the model # of that husky pouch?
Have you ever played with a real flint-and-steel?
Ya, when I was a kid.
How it´s possible that you never received a Victorinox, one of the best multitools for EDC that you can possible buy... ;)
Do you like new or older light my fire Ferro rod(2.0 or original)
2.0 but want version and size is good!
how much did that cost
Hahahaha Ding Dong! I love Trioxaine
piezoelectric?
Hi I really like your videos I give of Spain and here such content also tend to like but the biggest problem is that people do not understand English I would like to propose between you and me translate your videos on another channel in Spanish the two win-win sorry for my English is very basic
Misch metal is good...big blobs of fire.
PU
Great Video as always.
Id like to discuss some stuff with you in private, do you have an email or FB page i may reach you at?
Thank You
Ding dong lol
Ding Dong...lol...
those ferro rods are too hard for me... anyone lookin for a softer rod should buy any type of chinese made rods.. hate to say that but its truth
dipping is disgusting