Using herbs as basing scatter (Frugal Wargames Foliage)
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2015
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In this frugal foliage vid, we look at using herbs for cheap & easy basing scatter as well as covering how to use washes and paints to customise them.
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I've used this technique that I've learned from this video on multiple fairy gardens. It's spot on. And even if you're not using a mixture of herbs, or your mixture isn't the color that you want, once its sealed with glue you can dry brush different greens/yellows/blues/whites/golds over top to get the look you want.
Added bonus, the battlefield smells wonderful
I've done similar with used teabags..... Leave to dry and rip open for instant fine leaf
Using them to make a brew first removes much of the colour that will leach out :-)
Grawlys Lair Yeah, I don't drink tea and my coffee is instant :-(
+Grawlys Lair Thanks for the idea!
I use dried (used) green tea leaves. I grind them using an old coffee grinder.
Oh nice. Now i have a use for all the bags the wife leaves in the damn sink.
I bought some cheap pasta sprinkle herbs to use as green flock a couple years ago, and it works great as leaf litter. After gluing it down, I seal it with watered down PVA glue
Thanks for taking the thyme , er, time to show us the terrain use of herbs. :D
jim white Well played Sir! ;-)
Sage advice.
I'm building a Mirkwood-style miniature set for my pet spider to live in, and your videos are wonderfully informative. Ungoliant and I say thank you!
That is an amazing name for a spider! Do you have a curly haired tarantula? As far as I know those are the most common.
A very good idea, with the majority of herbs useful as is, for modeling forest litter. Since herbs for culinary purposes readily lose their pungency and need to be routinely replaced, the alternatives to throwing them away are many for the modeler. A simple idea, yet one that I have not seen before on UA-cam. Thank you.
I've been gathering sand from different places (different size ratios and colours) and sieving it to get useable sizes.
Now I've realised I'll have to take leaves too, and crush them once they're dry. Inspiring!
+Guillermo Mateo Glad it helped bud :-)
Thanks for all the help, I had to make a quick base for my miniature pumpkin patch for my Halloween Fairy Garden, and this video not only pointed me in the right direction of what to use for a quick base cover but it smelled amazing because I used quite a bit of nutmeg!! :)
Gotta love nice smelling terrain mate, love my jungle herb boards!
Old tea is a fine scatter material, too.
You can cut open the bags after you're done brewing, let it dry out, and you're set.
If you drink loose leaf, then you can skip the bags and just lay it out to dry.
Stock Villain That's another vid along with coffee and all that jazz but I don't drink tea and my coffee is instant lol
I use powdered ginger for HO Scale corn spillage around silos&the top of hopper railcars🚂🇨🇦🇬🇧🙋
This is definitely going to be useful for my forest build when I finally get around to doing it, thanks Mel!
***** I'll want pics! ;-)
You might have to wait a while for them mate! Been meaning to do it for months now and still haven't started :P
so far about the use of herbs I had not thought of, thank you so much for the tips.
Brabo Painter Glad they helped matey
Genius!!! I love it, it amaze's me how creative you are =)
Eldrac Thanks, it comes from spending a lot of time avoiding work :-)
great vid, lovely smelling and tasty basing materials :)
unkhter You wouldn't believe how nice and strong they smell mate :-)
I've used cajun spice mix on forest bases before, it worked pretty well, but it smells really strong.
Great video Mel! Thanks for sharing. :)
DrDeathmonger No worries bud :-)
Now that I have to re-base my napoleonic army,I will try with the herbs.Good idea and thanks to share it,pal!!
Eduardo albaladejo mendez Have a look at my hobby chindit vid, I used herbs on their bases mate :-)
I'll go for it,thanks a lot!
recently found another flocking material:
dried and shredded sphagnum moss.
it's cheap, and the live stuff is easy to grow for an infinite source of it.
i tried some out an a bottle brush type armature for a pine, but the result was much more appropriate
for a regular tree.
something about the flaky structure of it makes it look much more leafy then needley.
I've used a mixture of basil and reindeer moss (ripped into tiny pieces) lately, gives a bit more 3D look to the bases. I used basil and oregano for a long time, I've never thought of mixing them. I was wondering when you'd get to herbs as flocking. Great channel, very enlightening!
VorpalDerringer I did the same in the scrub mix vid, the herbs are going to make a great jungle base. Cheers buddy :-)
hey! you actually made a video on this - awesome!
...and I actually really like the look of it, I mean, static grass and stuff is still good, but this is a lot more realistic, and I can se it working a lot better for a lot of different kinds of terrain...I imagine it'd be perfect to use on large bits of scatter terrain with a few trees, something like the "citadel wood" kit GW does
definitely gonna be trying this one out in the future
TG ZoBo I intend to cover a 6x4 with it mate, it's going to look and smell awesome :-)
Found a use for those ginormous herb container sold at the discount store
another tip..i also use oregano..very nice as well
Great for my Pepper Army :)
We don't drop.our H's unless we are in London and even then we pronounce Herbs with an H! Lol! Yeah, I watch this lady who makes miniatures (she turns layers of cardstock into solid objects with superglue!) And she uses finely chopped coriander or Cilantro as they say in America to make really effective moss...just thought you may be interested...Heather Tracy is her name and she is great! Lol!
Thanks for this...my equine diorama will be so grateful lol!
heather tracy is a bloomin' genius!
Finally herbs will be useful! :D
Win!
You can put them in food too!
Thanks for the video! Exactly what I was looking for.
I want to put down a thin layer 9f soil first and then, on top of that, the herbs. Would you put watered down PVA on top of the soil to glue the herbs down? And if so, how much would you water down the PVA? Or would you glue the herbs to the soil completely different? Thanks for making these videos!
Could you do a tutorial where you use glyciryn to preserve the color in herbs?
If you coat it with varnish everything turns brown in a few weeks.
Sure mate
Have you ever tried using fine saw dust and adding water base paint to it. keep mixing until its very dry then lay out on new paper to dry out for 24 hours. very cheap way of making foliage. Add you can get loads of different colours as well.
+james gray I have but not for a long time mate, preferred the bought stuff now
Hi, I'm from Belgium. I really like your videos and I really want to start making scenic landscapes, but I don't know/find a shop or website here in Belgium where to buy the flock, turf, foliage, etc... Do you know one by accident ?? Thank you very much.
I'm thinking if the coriander seeds and pepper corns will hold a coat of paint, they might make very nice fruit for baskets, carts, or trees. Thoughts?
+drblasphemy Seal them with watered down pva first mate and they'll paint up fine :-)
TheTerrainTutor
Thanks for the tip!
Rosemary use in jungle or desert foliage. Sharp things sticking up or out.
437cosimo Too fragile for what I'm doing but totally mate :-)
this is genius
The other half is gonna love you, lol!
Eurobunneh Oh mate, this is nothing! lol
Holy cow, that came out absolutely incredible! I never would have thought to use the dried herbs from the cabinet as a flock. IDK why you'd want to go back to flock after this!
I mean I can see if you spread it out among regular flock and foilage clumpage.
Should be fantastic on rockier, sloped terrain. I wonder how your bunker and trench builds would look if you had used this instead of regular flock, or at mixed it in.
Could this work for rubble from buildings or will it come out too
natural pieces?
Could you use this on basing miniatures instead of simply terrain?
Thanks Mel
Go and have a look at my big burma build playlist mate, I do a 6x4' battlemat with herbs
thank for the trick, also, what did you think about ground coffee ? i had been stock a bunch of them after brew coffee and mix together with tea from tea bag
I've heard it works well but I drink instant mate
The Wife:
"Where...where is my spices stacker?"
Good Heavens!, I haven't even clicked play and I already love the video! Thanks Mel!!!
PS
I think I can smell something here...
Francis Fogarty I'll count that as a win :-)
Loved this guide, and i think i royally pissed off anyone in the house by over hoarding tea lol
For anyone new to this, i have a warning to issue:
-Certain tea types wont work..
(Charmomile tea and i think the fruit variety is bad for this)
Be wary if you use used tea bags to dry - it stains. ALOT
Be wary of pollen. Dried unused tea may have some(none in herbs tho) and may trigger sneezing.
Thats all.
Random Hint: try using concrete primer instead of water for pure basing and in forms - never cracks and you gain more volume.(just make sure its thick as milk)
I just found some leftover from the tiles, never hurts experimenting.
I 'm thinking to use even my hair to make some grass
Can you use tea? If yes Please make a quick vid about it.
Have you ever considered flax seed? It can be ground to a fine powder or left a tad coarse.
I've not seen that one, I'll check it out mate
Right on man. This is fucking brilliant.
Spock Cheers mate
Got a quick question, do you use the herbs straight from the bottle, isn't there a need to treat them or dry them out or something, like you would do for normal things out of your garden to kill the gribblies?
sorry my english isn't the best and i understoof from what you said that the green in the herbs (like parsley) isn't inert and that it will green the pva-glue-water-mixture but i didnt understand if it will brown over time due to aging.
As long as its sealed, it'll be fine for years
@@TheTerrainTutor thats nice, thank you.
How do you dry your spices out, on a tray? And for how long?
Checkout the big burma build mate
Great tutorial! How long do they last? Or are they pretty tough?
Tough as hell!
so 4 years on how are these herbs holding up?
no idea but the ones on my burma build from the same time are fine
your projects must smell like pizza and pasta! noice! thx man, awsome tipps from your channel! TOP
The texture is great! But all the colors are all the same grayish colors. Why no green colors?
Nice idea and cheap
Just a big problem in the summer, herbs using for bases or bbq, hhhmmmzzzzz
Can you also work in layers or will it not really give a difference in texture and color?
Benoit Vanderzippe BBQ first mate! You can certainly work in layers but it's best to keep it flat for playable surfaces mate
ok, thnx for the info
at last somone else did it!
Thank you for saying "herbs" instead of "erbs." As Eddie Izzard says, "It has a f**king H in it."
+T.D. Williamson Raised proper mate ;-D
sall-mon
Does Eddie Izzard say, "It has a fucking 'hache' in it!" or does he say, "It has a fucking 'aich' in it!"? (You'll notice that I'm putting my punctuation in the 'British' locations regarding the quotes. Because _that_ actually makes sense and works to communicate more clearly. The rest of it's just pure British stubbornness.)
cinnamon sticks are super cheap and you could smash them to make smallish chunks
Cheap?! Where are you buying your cinnamon.? Do you live in Sri-Lanka
VERYYYY surprised you didnt get and use Dill Weed?!? Practically flock grass straight from the bottle..
Is PVA the same as modge podge?
Yes but with added gel medium and other bits mate
Mod Podge has a very light varnish in it. Besides helping the product dry uniformly, it dries harder and clearer than PVA. PVA, as it dries, forms a skin that can push light terrain away as it dries. The varnish in Mod Podge helps prevent this.
Will these go bad in any way?
I'm wondering the same thing. In a different video I think he said to sterilise using some detol and then re-dry
Just don't use catnip :P
+M0U53B41T Thank would be epic!
only if one has a cat.
@@redshoesgirl or if two has a cat...
You say wotchaclit a lot.
Doesn't all this call bugs ?
This is why I don't let the wife throw out herbs and spices after they expire. They can always make interesting flock.... along with sand, coffee, tea........
Wizard's Playhouse Expire? ;-)
Terrain looks awesome but dinner tasted a little bland
Check ut on EBay for " wikkan " herbs - some interesting stuffs too !!!!!!!!!
Cheers mate
Love the video, but the pronunciations are pushing a button I didn't know I had
:-D
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redgreen09 Dirts good mate :-D
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@@redgreen09 You sure does speaks gooder Englishes
Don't play with food è-é