With you Keith...wing of 5....squadron and wing colors...bodacious pin up nose art and rayban wearing 'live for ever' pilots in blue flight coveralls.... Now that's reality TV in would be into watching every week.....
@@1compaqedr8 on what basis do you say that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are only a couple of planes out there with that wing, only one of which is flying that I know of. How do you know what the stall characteristics are?
I have read the original p-51 took advantage of the Meredith effect and actually generated up to 300 lbs of thrust with the radiator scoop. I wonder if the T-51 generates some thrust this way
Check out the youtube channel "greg's airplanes and automobiles". He just did a video that talked about the Meredith effect and the P-51. It seems that it has been overblown in its effect on performance.
My instrumented flight experiments in this vein would indicate that this isn't true. The T51 rad layout is not even as well designed at the original P51.
@@rv6ejguy That would be in line with what I have heard. Something that has been pointed out is that the BF109, Spitfire and Tempest all took advantage of the Meredith effect with their radiator inlets as well. The Mustang's might have been a little better designed aerodynamically but not enough to have any real impact.
Wow. So want one of these. Great vid, Mike. Keep up the good work. Btw, were you tempted to go with one of these when selecting your TSI? An airplane should be chosen based on the mission. So, what, then, is the mission? It's so subjective. Is it to cruise x-country with a low fuel burn? Or is it to go Mach 2 with your hair on fire?
probably neither of those. Rapid climb to altitude in a practice area then do wing-overs and such, pretending to be stalking an Me109. At least that's what I plan.
@@Pantdino thanks so very much. My interest is in the new 90" prop and high speed wing. I was going to fly out and visit the company this past summer but lost interest when many folks said the high speed wing was no longer available. Im not interested in the flap and aileron attachments under wing..looks hideous.
@@Capt_Tarmac You should call them. Originally they said they weren't going to make any speed wings, but then they decided to fill the orders they already had. I wouldn't be surprised if they have decided to continue making them. They might be making the speed wing with the original wingspan, I don't know. You should talk to John, the owner.
What would happen if you replaced the wings on a P-51 with the wings (front and horizintal elvators) of an F-86 in the correct proportion to the size of the body of the airplane? I bet it could go supersonic.
Hello Mike, love your videos! I am interested in building kits such as these all the way to completion. Could you do a video on this subject and outline the viability of building kits such as the T-51, and selling it for a profit, or any other kits? Maybe outline which kits would bring the greatest return for investment?
How much do you think it would go for completed and ready to fly? It takes about 1,600 hrs to build so at 50/hr you'd be asking 80k? 40 hrs a week would have you do a plane in 40 weeks give or take. Sounds reasonable but are they selling for over the kit price?
But a toy you can cross country with and....do some aerobatics with!!!! Imagine having a wing of them.for you and friends to go 'dog fight' with!!! Don't tell.me 5 of those pulling on to a ramp would allow you to buy your own lunch!! Want 1 ..er..5! Haha
figure $160K with basic instruments. Personally I think the best idea is to buy one already built with a smaller motor and do the engine conversion. That's what I'm doing. I don't have a couple of thousand hours or the tools and expertise required to build my own. Here's mine ua-cam.com/video/Fw2SdpdlDcg/v-deo.html
Mike Thank you thank you thank you.... Have not heard a peep from titan for about 4 years and worried they no longer around...although website is always fairly current... Guess when your building them you don't market them - haha! !! !130,000....and they are making money..amazing!!!. Best overview of that plane ever. And I have seen all of them!! It is two place also..never heard that mentioned but wife will fit 'GIB' and grand kids or sons and daughters also.....suggest drawing straws!!! Did you ask to go up?! This my ultimate dream to own. Without a doubt...historic..fast..and fly able without killing yourself....3/4 scale. V8 LS3 cheapest option too....and is crate fresh: GOD BLESS AMERICA... That value is incredible....makes owning an old Yak seem like a waist of time...and now no range restrictions....Connecticut to Dallas-Fort worth...Denver to Sandiego. .all doable...so excited...for about the price of a Tesla S...incredible
Completely agree, I personally think the bubble canopy on the Titan D model is too big and makes it look weird while with the B you still get that classic razorback look.
Now thats pretty sweet! I am an RC addict and love my custom built P-51 Red Tail!! It would be even cooler to have my own actual T-51 version too!! If you wanna see my toys check out my channel!!
@@Pantdino It's's rated at +6/-4 Gs, so I don't see how the structure would be the limiting factor. Drag force increases as the square of velocity, so it takes WAY more power to go a little faster. Still, the thunder mustang kit plane goes 450mph with 700hp, and of course the real p51d goes 450-475 with ~1700hp. But of course, the p51d is bigger, has more frontal area, and thus more drag... Still not understanding how a Mooney can go 250mph with 210hp and this little guy can only go ~200 with 425hp. Just doesn't add up.
As I understand they actually limit the power to 310 hp because that's the limit of what their current PSRU can handle, also I imagine it's 200 indicated which at cruising altitude would probably be closer to like 220 TAS
The S-51 looks so much better than the T-51, because of the front engine cowlings. The S-51 cowlings have actual curved metal, and is more authentic looking and a tiny bit more fluid and aerodynamic compared to the T-51. T-51's are nice, but noting compared to the S-51.
@@burtonporter8437 If I was making injectors I would not sell them to you for a plane. They're not designed for that environment or fuel composition. The liability is horrendous.
LS is the only way to go. You can take a 200K Junkyard LS, put it in your hotrod, turbo charge it and make 800hp without doing anything to the internals. LS is plenty, Affordable, Easy to rebuild and very reliable. I would have to use the LS and add a turbocharger at 7-8 psi. That would be a 600hp reliable package.
How...ya... do.in ... mojo grip... on a v...8... engine.. if you split...or ...y.... the the front and rear... cyl.s...exhaust... pipes... it gives you 6....active...tail pipes.... per side.... for authentic and realistic... effect......have a nice day....fly...hard....
All the 51 replicas in the U.S are hokey. You would be crying if you bought one of those cheap looking imitations and then a SW51 from Poland pulled up and parked next to you. Nothing else compares to the intricate details and scale of a 70% SW-51. They are coming to the U.S. and you can get one with a supercharged LS motor.
I wish someone would commission Yamaha to build at least a supercharged liquid-cooled v-12 and an air-cooled radial 18 cylinder twin row, maybe 2/3 - 3/4 scale engines specifically for the scaled warbird replica industries …
Would love to see this evolve into a larger scale similar to the mk26b spitfire kit that's 90% scale...deffinatly buying one then
Would like to hear, and see fly, a "flight" of P-51 Mustang replicas with LS engines do a scramble take off and formation flying.
Very cool !!!
With you Keith...wing of 5....squadron and wing colors...bodacious pin up nose art and rayban wearing 'live for ever' pilots in blue flight coveralls....
Now that's reality TV in would be into watching every week.....
Can't wait til you do a bf109 or a fw190.
Yes, I'm all for that -- especially an FW-190 - hopefully 80% scale. Lycoming 540 engine?
Not exactly PC these days!
P38 be cool
They should do a p47 and bf 109 and iconic ww2 planes that would be so cool
WHEW BUDDY!!! Thats one sweet Airplane. VERY NICE.
Very informative, great video. Thank you. 🙂
Cheers
I wonder what the stall, glide, and spin characteristics are like with that wing.
Worse than a real p-51 which was already a handful
@@1compaqedr8 on what basis do you say that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are only a couple of planes out there with that wing, only one of which is flying that I know of. How do you know what the stall characteristics are?
looks even better with the speed wing!
Did we ever get published numbers with the LS3 AND the speed wing?
I like it, quite small but well made and very innovative in it looks fun.
Would like to see it fly.
There are videos of the ls3 t-51 in flight
I'd like to see the WW2 iconic P47 Thunderbolt built with your technology.
Would a Falconer V-12 squeeze into the T-51 or is the plane just too small for that power plant?
I have read the original p-51 took advantage of the Meredith effect and actually generated up to 300 lbs of thrust with the radiator scoop. I wonder if the T-51 generates some thrust this way
Check out the youtube channel "greg's airplanes and automobiles". He just did a video that talked about the Meredith effect and the P-51. It seems that it has been overblown in its effect on performance.
My instrumented flight experiments in this vein would indicate that this isn't true. The T51 rad layout is not even as well designed at the original P51.
@@rv6ejguy That would be in line with what I have heard. Something that has been pointed out is that the BF109, Spitfire and Tempest all took advantage of the Meredith effect with their radiator inlets as well. The Mustang's might have been a little better designed aerodynamically but not enough to have any real impact.
I've also seen people put hard points on these planes for inert bombs for re-enactments and drop tanks.
Those are an option. Can also mount drop fuel tanks for extra range.
May your company flourish.
sorry, but the Hershey bar wings and the oversize canopy ruin it. Should have tapered wings and the canopy a little smaller.
What a beauty!
Drop tanks! So cool!!!
Has this aircraft been completed? Haven’t seen anything further concerning it’s completion.
Do they still make the high speed wing? I heard they stopped?
Is there an option for redundant ignition now? I understand this has been a problem, even causing one minor no-injury crash.
A beautifully constructed P51 replica. My question why isn't a full size kit available?
$$ ?
Wow. So want one of these. Great vid, Mike. Keep up the good work. Btw, were you tempted to go with one of these when selecting your TSI? An airplane should be chosen based on the mission. So, what, then, is the mission? It's so subjective. Is it to cruise x-country with a low fuel burn? Or is it to go Mach 2 with your hair on fire?
probably neither of those. Rapid climb to altitude in a practice area then do wing-overs and such, pretending to be stalking an Me109. At least that's what I plan.
What kind of license do you need to fly this plane?
Cool stuff. Thanks for the report.
What will be the next air show that they will be at?.
It's my life's goal to buy/build this plane.
Is the whole thing blind rivets?
So it not possible to get it whit the LS V12 engine anymore??
LS is a family of V8 engines
@@Pantdino And there's a company that produces a V12 based around LS architecture.
Is this the new scale prop? Also, I thought the high speed wing was not available.
No the new scale prop is 90". The status of the "short" vs "original long" speed wing is unclear.
@@Pantdino thanks so very much. My interest is in the new 90" prop and high speed wing. I was going to fly out and visit the company this past summer but lost interest when many folks said the high speed wing was no longer available. Im not interested in the flap and aileron attachments under wing..looks hideous.
@@Capt_Tarmac You should call them. Originally they said they weren't going to make any speed wings, but then they decided to fill the orders they already had. I wouldn't be surprised if they have decided to continue making them. They might be making the speed wing with the original wingspan, I don't know. You should talk to John, the owner.
What the red wires between exhaust tubes?
Spark plug leads
What would happen if you replaced the wings on a P-51 with the wings (front and horizintal elvators) of an F-86 in the correct proportion to the size of the body of the airplane? I bet it could go supersonic.
Is this better than a ThunderMustang?
Wow! VERY COOL.
Put the new ford 427 or hellcat motor in it!
Ford 427 all the way !
I want to put the Hellcat motor on one.
Hello Mike, love your videos! I am interested in building kits such as these all the way to completion. Could you do a video on this subject and outline the viability of building kits such as the T-51, and selling it for a profit, or any other kits? Maybe outline which kits would bring the greatest return for investment?
How much do you think it would go for completed and ready to fly? It takes about 1,600 hrs to build so at 50/hr you'd be asking 80k? 40 hrs a week would have you do a plane in 40 weeks give or take. Sounds reasonable but are they selling for over the kit price?
The ULTIMATE toy
But a toy you can cross country with and....do some aerobatics with!!!! Imagine having a wing of them.for you and friends to go 'dog fight' with!!!
Don't tell.me 5 of those pulling on to a ramp would allow you to buy your own lunch!!
Want 1 ..er..5! Haha
Beautiful airplane , but it's a MUSTANG ! WHERE'S THE 5.0 COYOTE OPTION ?! If Titan can offer that , I'd have my checkbook out . POWERED BY FORD.
The original Mustangs were powered by Rolls-Royce engines.
@@Pantdino The real ones. No kidding.
@@Pantdino Actually most were powered by Packard
Nice video!
Could an autopilot be installed?
Yes, I'm pretty sure one owner is doing so.
So cool.
Really cool.
After this past week , I think the gearbox will need some inspection and upgrade.
How about T-40 Warhawk.
Awesome!! how much are we talking about?
figure $160K with basic instruments. Personally I think the best idea is to buy one already built with a smaller motor and do the engine conversion. That's what I'm doing. I don't have a couple of thousand hours or the tools and expertise required to build my own. Here's mine
ua-cam.com/video/Fw2SdpdlDcg/v-deo.html
Watch the whole video and he talks prices toward the end.
I would like to see a T51 with real guns in the wings!
Do you do V12 conversion with a Excalibur V12 Marine engine? I heard it was done in a 75% scale T51/P51 Mustang kit plane.
Mike
Thank you thank you thank you....
Have not heard a peep from titan for about 4 years and worried they no longer around...although website is always fairly current...
Guess when your building them you don't market them - haha! !!
!130,000....and they are making money..amazing!!!.
Best overview of that plane ever. And I have seen all of them!!
It is two place also..never heard that mentioned but wife will fit 'GIB' and grand kids or sons and daughters also.....suggest drawing straws!!!
Did you ask to go up?!
This my ultimate dream to own. Without a doubt...historic..fast..and fly able without killing yourself....3/4 scale. V8 LS3 cheapest option too....and is crate fresh: GOD BLESS AMERICA...
That value is incredible....makes owning an old Yak seem like a waist of time...and now no range restrictions....Connecticut to Dallas-Fort worth...Denver to Sandiego. .all doable...so excited...for about the price of a Tesla S...incredible
Why not put a v10.... or a jaguar v12 engine?
cost?
can you buy one already built
Sure if you can find a used one in the marketplace
T-51B > T-51D
Change my mind
Completely agree, I personally think the bubble canopy on the Titan D model is too big and makes it look weird while with the B you still get that classic razorback look.
I flew copilot in this plane a few years ago. Pilot did rolls and high speed low pass over the runway.
Where are the 50 cals ???😆
$65k kir + $65k firewall fwd for $130k with basic avioncs. Yep my RV7 cost half with a lycoming Hartzell prop and deluxe vfr panel.
Haha I love the 4 fake exhaust pipes!...now if they can only make me 6 fake 50 cals on the wings !
Once solid state Batteris hit the market a 1000 hp electric motor will Be the way to go.
Now thats pretty sweet! I am an RC addict and love my custom built P-51 Red Tail!! It would be even cooler to have my own actual T-51 version too!! If you wanna see my toys check out my channel!!
Cruises at 200😏. Would that be MPH, Knots, or ..........?
Makes a difference.
From the spec sheets I've seen it would be MPH but given that this is the speed wing it might be knots
@@johnbeauvais3159 Yes, Titan uses MPH, just like the Army did in the real P-51s.
Am I tripping to think that a 200mph cruise seems a little slow for 425hp?
The limiting factor would be the strength of the airframe. I'm sure the engine would pull it as fast as you dared to go.
@@Pantdino It's's rated at +6/-4 Gs, so I don't see how the structure would be the limiting factor. Drag force increases as the square of velocity, so it takes WAY more power to go a little faster. Still, the thunder mustang kit plane goes 450mph with 700hp, and of course the real p51d goes 450-475 with ~1700hp. But of course, the p51d is bigger, has more frontal area, and thus more drag... Still not understanding how a Mooney can go 250mph with 210hp and this little guy can only go ~200 with 425hp. Just doesn't add up.
As I understand they actually limit the power to 310 hp because that's the limit of what their current PSRU can handle, also I imagine it's 200 indicated which at cruising altitude would probably be closer to like 220 TAS
The S-51 looks so much better than the T-51, because of the front engine cowlings. The S-51 cowlings have actual curved metal, and is more authentic looking and a tiny bit more fluid and aerodynamic compared to the T-51. T-51's are nice, but noting compared to the S-51.
WAY WAY TO CLOSE WITH THE CAMERA
Mount two fifty cals...couple rocket pods...perfect low signature...COIN AIRCRAFT
Lemme get this straight, you put stock automotive fuel injectors in a plane? 🤯
Why not? Fuel injectors are rpretty reliable, and there are 7 more if one messes up
@@burtonporter8437 If I was making injectors I would not sell them to you for a plane. They're not designed for that environment or fuel composition. The liability is horrendous.
What the he'll is that person screaming about in the background?
I wonder if you could have a T51 with an LS that makes the power of the real P51
A real P51 puts out around 2000hp. Not sure you will get an LS to make that kind of power.
loampey1 LSX can do it on a shit ton of boost
@@trevoncowen9198
true, but would you want to fly in a plane where the engine may grenade at any minute?
loampey1 yes also I would have more faith in it if I used all forged internals but yes it would be fun
@@trevoncowen9198 I'm guessing you would be able to fly vertical and hang off the prop with that much power. Fun indeed.
take my money
LS is the only way to go. You can take a 200K Junkyard LS, put it in your hotrod, turbo charge it and make 800hp without doing anything to the internals. LS is plenty, Affordable, Easy to rebuild and very reliable. I would have to use the LS and add a turbocharger at 7-8 psi. That would be a 600hp reliable package.
And somehow the cost is 48k for an ls3 that u can buy under 8k
That 48K includes the engine, gearbox, accessories, and mounting frame, not just the engine.
How...ya... do.in ... mojo grip... on a v...8... engine.. if you split...or ...y.... the the front and rear... cyl.s...exhaust... pipes... it gives you 6....active...tail pipes.... per side.... for authentic and realistic... effect......have a nice day....fly...hard....
That loose brake line seems kind of hokey. And dangerous.
All the 51 replicas in the U.S are hokey. You would be crying if you bought one of those cheap looking imitations and then a SW51 from Poland pulled up and parked next to you. Nothing else compares to the intricate details and scale of a 70% SW-51. They are coming to the U.S. and you can get one with a supercharged LS motor.
@@tropicthndr S-51 is better looking then the SW-51 and T-51
Fake stacks? Girl, just be real, no need to be fake
Fist comment view and like!
It looks good from far but far from good
Inte samma sak
I quit when it does not fly
Talk is cheap. How about a flight....you know. ...sound of the engine and all that goes with a REAL AIRPLANE? HMMMMMM?
I wish someone would commission Yamaha to build at least a supercharged liquid-cooled v-12 and an air-cooled radial 18 cylinder twin row, maybe 2/3 - 3/4 scale engines specifically for the scaled warbird replica industries …