What I like is the lake, trees, and forests! It's gorgeous! Who would have thought it would be this fertile this far south - the obvious advantage of living at high elevations!!! :)
Well, it's hot in the summer and humid at most beaches, but people get aclaimated to the weather. I'm a smaller man and I notice some larger framed or bigger men don't do as well in the heat. Cloud cover and ocean beezes help a lot; also, it's the rainy season during the summer and that helps, too. Some residents stay in Puerto Vallarta and, then, move to Guanajuato for the summer months, but I like the summers where there's less tourists and you can still enjoy the massive infrastructure as well.
First 😊. Thank you so much for doing a "temperate" less-hot climate locale. We need more of these as all the big beach and all the Ex-pat centers are interesting but seeing the "cooler" places is always appreciated. 🙏
Anywhere inland with mountainous terrain is marvelous in Mexico. Guanajuato is a marvelous experience and it's downtown area is like being in Europe!!! It's really cool during the summers, too, just like Valle!!
@@dennishassler605 Thanks for the insight Dennis. Even though I am a scuba diver / snorkeler I am amazed by people who want that beach or hot environment year round. Not me... It is so easy and inexpensive to travel to a beach/warm place within Mexico anytime why would anyone put themselves in that more expensive (Tourist pricing and AC electric bills) environment. 24/7 ?
Thanks L.J., but I'm in Phx. Az. where it's 104F and in Puerto Vallarta it's only 84F. When in PV there's cloud cover, rain and a sea breeze, so it's not too hot. If there's a day w/o clouod cover, I walk less mid-day and walk more later in the day when the sea breeze comes in. And during summers, it's only a short ride to higher elevations with cooler weather. A friend has a ranch high up and he said not to visit him unless you bring a jacket, because it's so cold in July and August due to elevation.
I also do not find tourist pricing to be a problem, because I'm a bit outside the immediate Malecon area - when in Mexico, live in the barrios where pricing is more for local people and walk to the Malecon. In crowded tourist season, I'd avoid being on the malecon and I prefer neighborhood places w/o tourist pricing. I love certain places where I'll pay more - $6.50 US gets me a meal that'll last the entire day and that incudes the tip in the most popular breakfast rest. in PV - AND the best part is I can bring my dog with me!!!
@@dennishassler605 Sounds like we may have been separated at birth. Barrio the only way to go. I always cringe and am perpetually amazed when I see people who paid for the $2K US a night Maldive over-the-water villas when they could have stayed on one of the quieter islands for $30.00 US a night and not been "gauged" at every turn. Same ocean, same snorkeling and diving too. Less up-tight people as well. Cant stand to be around the classic ex-pat boozer/restaruanters either. Give me locals any day of the week. 😊
We visited Valle de Bravo in February - it's a beautiful spot, and the people were really friendly and helpful, especially tolerant of my moderately OK Spanish. Thanks for some examples of the cost of rentals in town as well. It seemed a bit more expensive than places like San Miguel de Allende, but it feels like there are a few more amenities in some ways, so that's a worthwhile tradeoff. Great footage and great information. The tourism is driving up the prices, but it's also affording more amenities. I definitely recommend the museums and the centro as well. All in all, definitely a place to return to.
Thanks for watching! It may be slightly more expensive than SMA but the difference is you get a lot more house for your money, with a yard, and clean air. And it’s not as busy as SMA
This looks like a nice place to live at … I now have added this one to my list And it’s not far from CDMX too 💗 Thank you Marianna and your team. I look forward to seeing the places you guys highlight ☺️
Many thanks to you and your team! This is a helpful glimpse into a wonderful town. Lots of rain is needed to bring the gorgeous green…as you pointed out. Does it tend to be all day during the rainy season? Crossing my fingers to visit this superb pueblo!! Nice place for you to highlight and thank you again
@@monicagutierrez8516 Yeah, but you're lucky to live in an area of such tolerable high temps.!! I live in Oregon and it rains a lot 8 - 9 months a year, so 3 is like going to heaven! And the rain we have is that ALL DAY DRIZZLE CRAP. Literally, we can have no blue sky for a week to ten days straight...where it just drizzles and sprinkles rain for 7 - 10 days straight and you never see any blue sky the entire time. Plus, we've had way, WAY too many 90+ degree days now with climate change. It looks like the heavily evergreen woods Oregon, but with much better weather! and around 75 degrees most of the time. Very Nice! Since you live there, where would you look for a medium sized house to buy, with a view of the lake, and most of all, a big lot for a huge garden? So many lots are very, very small. Thanks Monica! 😉👍
As always, LOVE your voice and charming delivery - just missed seeing YOU!!! This is an excellent video about Valle - I'm certain I'll visit there someday.
I've been following your videos covering where to live in Mexico. The outdoor activities are fun but not enough for me. I'm also interested temperate climate areas with outdoor activities and bustling with cultural acitivities like museums, live theatre, concerts, etc.
Then perhaps bigger cities are more suitable for you. Check out our list of best places to live mexicorelocationguide.com/best-places-to-live-in-mexico/
Valle de Bravo does look beautiful and I always like to hear of places with temperate climates. However, is all of it that expensive to live in? I'm looking to live in Mexico where I'll be able to live as close to $1,500 or less/month. I've heard it can be done, it I guess not in Valle de Bravo??? May I suggest when you feature places like this, can you also mention if cheaper rents can be had and if someone on social security might be able to afford it? Thank you again for your helpful videos and please, KEEP THEM COMING.
You're right- your income may be a little tight for Valle de Bravo because it does tend to have expensive housing. But everything else is very affordable
Indeed Valle Is a great place to live at. However It has experienced an unprecedent growth that Is threatening its future. A touristic boom along with unplanned construction is putting an end to once beautiful woods and prairies.. The lake Is overpolluted. The sad truth Is our corrupt governments hand in hand with corrupt developers delivering houses and Hotels to eager visitors or expats, aré bringing Valle to an end.
This spot looks very appealing. I have been to a lot of different areas in Mexico (both coasts, L. Chapala Mex City) but I really miss the Canadian forests. But the hiking in and near Valle looks like it could be an option. I like the size of the town, its walkability. Do you know if it is very dog friendly? Thanks for the great video, Marian. I will check into it. Also is the lake clean enough to swim in?
It’s very dog friendly. The lake isn’t very clean although depending on the time of year and with more rain the cleaner it is. There are a lot of people that do swim in it
. A local organisation Is continously monitoring the water quality and they recommend Not to swim there. You can still do kayak , SUP or sail . I live in Valle ;)
That's the same as Lake Chapala, if you research where Lake Chapala's water comes from (and I have), you'll quickly find out that all of the factories upstream simply dump their toxic waste directly into the river that feeds Lake Chapala. I wouldn't think it's any different with this lake. After all, Mexico City isn't that far away.... :( That's one thing REALLY, REALLY lacking in Mexico!!! - pollution control, recycling, actual garbage service with cans for each family and a truck that comes weekly to pick up garbage, and has recycling trucks doing the same route too. Sure, there are sometimes people who come to a street corner, and people PILE their garbage there, but it's all loose, not sanitary in the least bit, and it's horrible to look at or smell...not to mention if the corner is right in front of your house! Does ANYONE in Mexico even "dream" of thinking about keeping rivers and streams, lakes, streets, empty lots, ANYWHERE, clean and unpolluted? I think not! If there is ONE HUGE NEGATIVE about Mexico, it's the garbage and lack of ANY thought of recycling, river and lake clean up, anti dumping of sewage, and chemicals into any stream, river, ocean, or lake. WTF! ... WAKE UP!!!! :( I live in Oregon, and we've had a Don't Litter or pollute campaign here since the 1960's! Recycling soon after that! I can walk down small or busy streets and not see even one piece of trash or litter ANYWHERE!! Seriously! I'm not exaggerating one bit! And, no one even things of dumping polluted chemicals or trash into ANY stream or lake ...PERIOD! Huge fines! Probably jail time too. We also have weekly recycling of anything and everything! I do NOT get why Mexico hasn't done jack shit in the way of protecting the gorgeous environment! What? Are they 100 years behind the USA? END NEEDED RANT. ;)
@@KOrnhOliO1 Thanks for your comment. Makes it easier NOT to spend my vacation in México. Had lived there (Puebla) in the 80´s. Sad to hear that - in this aspect - nothing has changed. Beauty sometimes stinks. The real truth often hides behind colors, sunshine, attractions and music. To all others: I deeply do love "México", but it keeps destroying itself by not really takin´care for its environment. A shame. Irresponsible.
Hello, do you have a video that showcases places that are good for handicapped people, I am in a wheelchair and want to move to Mexico but am having trouble pinpointing the right area, I've looked into Queretaro, Merida, Ajijic and Chapala so far, thank you for your time.
Hi! Unfortunately there isn't a single city that I would say is "comfortable" for someone in a wheelchair. There are people in wheelchairs that don't leave their houses too often because many buildings and retailers aren't adapted with ramps for them. So they absolutely need someone to help them into a place. Sorry to say this but Mexico isn't the country I would recommend for someone with no ability to walk.
A very appealing option! The city looks lovely. The lake looks very nice. It looks more user friendly than Lake Chapala! Thankyou for the overview. Are there buses from Mexico City? I’m off to research!
Yes of course, all the battles fought in Mexico from the Aztecs to the Mayans was against the European invasions back in the 1600s - mostly Spanish but also a lot of other influences
It's in Avandaro, which is a high-end neighborhood up the hill from downtown. It's my favorite part of Valle; I plan to buy a house there. (And those burgers are as good as they look.)
❤hola feliz año nuevo 2024 hermoso video ❤ si hay un pais que me encantaria visitar es mexico de tantos lugares majicos nada como ese lugar lo amo tengo que ir ❤ la comida la gente las tienditas ❤ tengo q ir❤❤ junio avanza a llegar 😅❤
To be honest, Valle de Bravo is a small town and while you may get really good internet in some neighborhoods, not all of them have the highest speed. But there is good internet available it all depends on the house you rent or the place you live in. Before renting anything I would do a speed test to check. Or ask the owner to send you the most recent speed test
How much is 40,000 pesos a month in usd? I don’t watch your channel much because I don’t know the cost of homes or apartments in usd. Otherwise it’s nice. That’s why I haven’t subscribed, I run into a video once in awhile.
Hi Mariana: I very much like your videos, but for me something is missing. You never mention in your nightlife section any live music clubs which I always look for in the cities I visit. Something I love about Sam Miguel De Allende which has live music everyday in multiple venues. Thank you for your beautiful videos.
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Excellent video. Really help me to find the place I am looking for
What I like is the lake, trees, and forests! It's gorgeous! Who would have thought it would be this fertile this far south - the obvious advantage of living at high elevations!!! :)
Well, it's hot in the summer and humid at most beaches, but people get aclaimated to the weather. I'm a smaller man and I notice some larger framed or bigger men don't do as well in the heat. Cloud cover and ocean beezes help a lot; also, it's the rainy season during the summer and that helps, too. Some residents stay in Puerto Vallarta and, then, move to Guanajuato for the summer months, but I like the summers where there's less tourists and you can still enjoy the massive infrastructure as well.
First 😊. Thank you so much for doing a "temperate" less-hot climate locale. We need more of these as all the big beach and all the Ex-pat centers are interesting but seeing the "cooler" places is always appreciated. 🙏
Anywhere inland with mountainous terrain is marvelous in Mexico. Guanajuato is a marvelous experience and it's downtown area is like being in Europe!!! It's really cool during the summers, too, just like Valle!!
@@dennishassler605 Thanks for the insight Dennis. Even though I am a scuba diver / snorkeler I am amazed by people who want that beach or hot environment year round.
Not me... It is so easy and inexpensive to travel to a beach/warm place within Mexico anytime why would anyone put themselves in that more expensive (Tourist pricing and AC electric bills) environment. 24/7 ?
Thanks L.J., but I'm in Phx. Az. where it's 104F and in Puerto Vallarta it's only 84F. When in PV there's cloud cover, rain and a sea breeze, so it's not too hot. If there's a day w/o clouod cover, I walk less mid-day and walk more later in the day when the sea breeze comes in. And during summers, it's only a short ride to higher elevations with cooler weather. A friend has a ranch high up and he said not to visit him unless you bring a jacket, because it's so cold in July and August due to elevation.
I also do not find tourist pricing to be a problem, because I'm a bit outside the immediate Malecon area - when in Mexico, live in the barrios where pricing is more for local people and walk to the Malecon. In crowded tourist season, I'd avoid being on the malecon and I prefer neighborhood places w/o tourist pricing. I love certain places where I'll pay more - $6.50 US gets me a meal that'll last the entire day and that incudes the tip in the most popular breakfast rest. in PV - AND the best part is I can bring my dog with me!!!
@@dennishassler605 Sounds like we may have been separated at birth. Barrio the only way to go.
I always cringe and am perpetually amazed when I see people who paid for the $2K US a night Maldive over-the-water villas when they could have stayed on one of the quieter islands for $30.00 US a night and not been "gauged" at every turn. Same ocean, same snorkeling and diving too. Less up-tight people as well.
Cant stand to be around the classic ex-pat boozer/restaruanters either. Give me locals any day of the week. 😊
This looks like a great place. It would be nice if you talked about smaller rentals perhaps for a single person. Thank you so much 😊
Valle de Bravo is awesome. You should see it in person 😀
We visited Valle de Bravo in February - it's a beautiful spot, and the people were really friendly and helpful, especially tolerant of my moderately OK Spanish. Thanks for some examples of the cost of rentals in town as well. It seemed a bit more expensive than places like San Miguel de Allende, but it feels like there are a few more amenities in some ways, so that's a worthwhile tradeoff. Great footage and great information. The tourism is driving up the prices, but it's also affording more amenities. I definitely recommend the museums and the centro as well. All in all, definitely a place to return to.
Thanks for watching!
It may be slightly more expensive than SMA but the difference is you get a lot more house for your money, with a yard, and clean air. And it’s not as busy as SMA
This looks like a nice place to live at … I now have added this one to my list
And it’s not far from CDMX too 💗
Thank you Marianna and your team. I look forward to seeing the places you guys highlight ☺️
What a beautiful city! Just a bit expensive for me. Thank you Mariana
You're welcome 😊
Many thanks to you and your team! This is a helpful glimpse into a wonderful town. Lots of rain is needed to bring the gorgeous green…as you pointed out. Does it tend to be all day during the rainy season? Crossing my fingers to visit this superb pueblo!! Nice place for you to highlight and thank you again
It usually rains for an hour during the day. Although in September it can be all day for 2-3 weeks
August, September & October rains a LOT! Trust me, I live there.
@@monicagutierrez8516 Yeah, but you're lucky to live in an area of such tolerable high temps.!! I live in Oregon and it rains a lot 8 - 9 months a year, so 3 is like going to heaven! And the rain we have is that ALL DAY DRIZZLE CRAP. Literally, we can have no blue sky for a week to ten days straight...where it just drizzles and sprinkles rain for 7 - 10 days straight and you never see any blue sky the entire time.
Plus, we've had way, WAY too many 90+ degree days now with climate change. It looks like the heavily evergreen woods Oregon, but with much better weather! and around 75 degrees most of the time. Very Nice!
Since you live there, where would you look for a medium sized house to buy, with a view of the lake, and most of all, a big lot for a huge garden? So many lots are very, very small. Thanks Monica! 😉👍
@@monicagutierrez8516 About the weather, how cold it gets at night ?
@@lsnetwork6455 winter can be 14-15 C , even less if u aré deeper un the woods. Right now we have very mild weather, 18C.
As always, LOVE your voice and charming delivery - just missed seeing YOU!!! This is an excellent video about Valle - I'm certain I'll visit there someday.
Thanks for watching
I've been following your videos covering where to live in Mexico. The outdoor activities are fun but not enough for me. I'm also interested temperate climate areas with outdoor activities and bustling with cultural acitivities like museums, live theatre, concerts, etc.
Then perhaps bigger cities are more suitable for you. Check out our list of best places to live mexicorelocationguide.com/best-places-to-live-in-mexico/
It's so green💚, beautiful
Yes! Truly gorgeous
Valle de Bravo does look beautiful and I always like to hear of places with temperate climates. However, is all of it that expensive to live in? I'm looking to live in Mexico where I'll be able to live as close to $1,500 or less/month. I've heard it can be done, it I guess not in Valle de Bravo??? May I suggest when you feature places like this, can you also mention if cheaper rents can be had and if someone on social security might be able to afford it? Thank you again for your helpful videos and please, KEEP THEM COMING.
You're right- your income may be a little tight for Valle de Bravo because it does tend to have expensive housing. But everything else is very affordable
Indeed Valle Is a great place to live at. However It has experienced an unprecedent growth that Is threatening its future. A touristic boom along with unplanned construction is putting an end to once beautiful woods and prairies.. The lake Is overpolluted. The sad truth Is our corrupt governments hand in hand with corrupt developers delivering houses and Hotels to eager visitors or expats, aré bringing Valle to an end.
Very Beautiful Place!❤️🇲🇽❤️
This spot looks very appealing. I have been to a lot of different areas in Mexico (both coasts, L. Chapala Mex City) but I really miss the Canadian forests. But the hiking in and near Valle looks like it could be an option. I like the size of the town, its walkability. Do you know if it is very dog friendly? Thanks for the great video, Marian. I will check into it. Also is the lake clean enough to swim in?
It’s very dog friendly. The lake isn’t very clean although depending on the time of year and with more rain the cleaner it is. There are a lot of people that do swim in it
@@MexicoRelocationGuide Thanks, Mariana!
. A local organisation Is continously monitoring the water quality and they recommend Not to swim there. You can still do kayak , SUP or sail . I live in Valle ;)
That's the same as Lake Chapala, if you research where Lake Chapala's water comes from (and I have), you'll quickly find out that all of the factories upstream simply dump their toxic waste directly into the river that feeds Lake Chapala. I wouldn't think it's any different with this lake. After all, Mexico City isn't that far away.... :(
That's one thing REALLY, REALLY lacking in Mexico!!! - pollution control, recycling, actual garbage service with cans for each family and a truck that comes weekly to pick up garbage, and has recycling trucks doing the same route too. Sure, there are sometimes people who come to a street corner, and people PILE their garbage there, but it's all loose, not sanitary in the least bit, and it's horrible to look at or smell...not to mention if the corner is right in front of your house!
Does ANYONE in Mexico even "dream" of thinking about keeping rivers and streams, lakes, streets, empty lots, ANYWHERE, clean and unpolluted? I think not!
If there is ONE HUGE NEGATIVE about Mexico, it's the garbage and lack of ANY thought of recycling, river and lake clean up, anti dumping of sewage, and chemicals into any stream, river, ocean, or lake. WTF! ... WAKE UP!!!! :(
I live in Oregon, and we've had a Don't Litter or pollute campaign here since the 1960's! Recycling soon after that! I can walk down small or busy streets and not see even one piece of trash or litter ANYWHERE!! Seriously! I'm not exaggerating one bit! And, no one even things of dumping polluted chemicals or trash into ANY stream or lake ...PERIOD! Huge fines! Probably jail time too. We also have weekly recycling of anything and everything!
I do NOT get why Mexico hasn't done jack shit in the way of protecting the gorgeous environment! What? Are they 100 years behind the USA?
END NEEDED RANT. ;)
@@KOrnhOliO1 Thanks for your comment. Makes it easier NOT to spend my vacation in México. Had lived there (Puebla) in the 80´s. Sad to hear that - in this aspect - nothing has changed.
Beauty sometimes stinks. The real truth often hides behind colors, sunshine, attractions and music.
To all others: I deeply do love "México", but it keeps destroying itself by not really takin´care for its environment. A shame. Irresponsible.
This looks like the perfect place for us! Any expats here?
A few. Not to many
Thank you for this amazing glimpse into Valle. It really does seem like a wonderful place to live. Do you know if it is dog friendly?
Very dog friendly. Lots of trails
Only expensive rentals/homes???
I can imagine retiring here!
What are the rainy season months ?
Hello, do you have a video that showcases places that are good for handicapped people, I am in a wheelchair and want to move to Mexico but am having trouble pinpointing the right area, I've looked into Queretaro, Merida, Ajijic and Chapala so far, thank you for your time.
Hi! Unfortunately there isn't a single city that I would say is "comfortable" for someone in a wheelchair. There are people in wheelchairs that don't leave their houses too often because many buildings and retailers aren't adapted with ramps for them. So they absolutely need someone to help them into a place. Sorry to say this but Mexico isn't the country I would recommend for someone with no ability to walk.
Muy bien explicado...felicidades
Gracias Miguel
What’s the cloud cover like in the rainy season? All day gloom?
Mostly afternoon showers
Thank you for your great information thank
Glad you enjoy it Barbara
Looks like a place I would love to live!!!
Glad you agree. 😀
A very appealing option! The city looks lovely. The lake looks very nice. It looks more user friendly than Lake Chapala! Thankyou for the overview. Are there buses from Mexico City? I’m off to research!
Yes! Many buses
Very nice...thank you.
Very pretty and green . Is there a European influence German ?
Yes of course, all the battles fought in Mexico from the Aztecs to the Mayans was against the European invasions back in the 1600s - mostly Spanish but also a lot of other influences
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Beautiful...thank you.
Thanks for watching
Where was that beer garden? Thanks for a very interesting video!
thanks for watching!
It's in Avandaro, which is a high-end neighborhood up the hill from downtown. It's my favorite part of Valle; I plan to buy a house there. (And those burgers are as good as they look.)
❤hola feliz año nuevo 2024 hermoso video ❤ si hay un pais que me encantaria visitar es mexico de tantos lugares majicos nada como ese lugar lo amo tengo que ir ❤ la comida la gente las tienditas ❤ tengo q ir❤❤ junio avanza a llegar 😅❤
I like this place,
Avándaro, it´s pronounced a-VAN-da-ro, Mariana, with the accent in the 2nd syllable.
es un hermoso pueblito mágico, es un #ValleMagico
es precioso! Gracias por ver nuestro video :)
@@MexicoRelocationGuide Gracias a ustedes por hacer videos tan buenos 🤩
Is there dependable internet there for a remote nomad that needs to have good net connection?
To be honest, Valle de Bravo is a small town and while you may get really good internet in some neighborhoods, not all of them have the highest speed. But there is good internet available it all depends on the house you rent or the place you live in. Before renting anything I would do a speed test to check. Or ask the owner to send you the most recent speed test
thank you
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Looks perfect!
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My husband and I are going to Valle de Bravo this July and August. Do you know of an expat group there?
Thank you Mariana
Hi Linda
Not really in Valle de Bravo. It’s not really an expat town.
Awesome
Avándaro, not Avandáro
How much is 40,000 pesos a month in usd? I don’t watch your channel much because I don’t know the cost of homes or apartments in usd. Otherwise it’s nice. That’s why I haven’t subscribed, I run into a video once in awhile.
The exchange rate is 20 pesos to 1 dollar. You can always divide by 2 and drop a zero to get your Amount in usd
Google it ! The exchange rate changes!
ugh...please keep Valle a secret! lived there for a year amongst locals and did not meet a single foreigner. vdb has my heart
also, it is pronounced A-van-da-ro, not av-an-da-ro.
I’m pronouncing it in a way that can help people understand the letters in the name - but thanks for your critique
So basically everyone after you is not allowed to come? Got it 😉
@@MexicoRelocationGuide that makes zero sense.
@@MexicoRelocationGuide what makes it a gem is the lack of gentrification😜
That lake looks really low
It def fluctuates with the rainy season vs dry season :)
Hi Mariana:
I very much like your videos, but for me something is missing.
You never mention in your nightlife section any live music clubs which I always look for
in the cities I visit. Something I love about Sam Miguel De Allende which has live music everyday in multiple venues.
Thank you for your beautiful videos.
Thanks Erick. I'll keep it mind for a future video. Although I truly think this is so specific you'd have to be there yourself. 😉
Why not add the brokers name or link, also could you talk any slower 🙄
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I am interested in knowing more about the real estate situation. May I have Claudia contact information? Thanks
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