Alright, first off, I forgot to give credit to VoidNathan for the theory about Susie wanting to access the database in the video, so there you go! Second, don't worry, the next two canon videos I upload are going to be brand new, not remasters. Then after that, one more remaster, and POSSIBLY another new one based on info I could assemble. Thanks for watching, and I hope you continue to enjoy this series!
In the uk version the 2.0 susie description it say that “susie went missing when she was a child when a experiment with the Mother Computer wheat terribly wrong.She joined the company after all this time? Her full name is Susanna Patrya Haltmann “.
@@lpfan4491 As a friend of the Decomp team, I can tell you they found unused code for a 2nd player throughout the game, blatantly obviously for Luigi. Well Kaze made it happen and more, so that's that imo.
Kirby Lore is so amazing. I hate the fact some people think Kirby games are so childish and friendly. Just like how Nintendo introduced Triple Deluxe. But then we discovered the true story about Sectonia and Taranza. It was really sad but interesting- just like Susie and Haltman
HAL Laboratory Inc. creates the games and stories, Nintendo publishes them. What did you expect? Nintendo to be good enough to create the Kirby of the Stars series? Well they are kind alright with stuff like Pikmin and Xenoblade Chronicles, but still.
To be fair, most people only buy the games because they're expecting a cute kid-friendly game, not because of the dark undertones in the series. It only makes sense to advertise them as such.
I still think that kirbygames are actually best enjoyed for their gameplay and cute nature. I once was actually really into the lore, but then I got more and more confirmation that what I built with the pieces that Hal gave us was completely false and I am overthinking everything because it is basically meaningless. Galacta knight is still supposed to exist somehow, yet he will never have any relevancy. Haltmanns soul is not deleted because the soulfights are noncanon and dedede never actually showed dark metaknight who's boss. And star allies is the most boring game ever because while it has a sad backstory, nothing interessting actually happens if we are to assume that only the mainstory is canon.
@@lpfan4491 Eh, I think it's safe to assume that Heroes in Another Dimension is canon as well, since it's quite different to most extra modes, and it's a lot more original. Gameplay is still the most important thing, but I can still appreciate the lore because it gives more context to the universe and its characters. Kirby may not have fought Void Termina two more times, but that doesn't mean there's nothing interesting about Void in canon, since extra mode descriptions can still have relevancy to the main canon. With Star Allies in particular, nothing less interesting happens in its canon events than any other Kirby game.
If I'm correct, Star Dream's beta design was based off of 02; originally it was less cylindrical and had a more prominent eye, but the wings were still carried over to the design used in-game
One error in the video is that Dedede WASN'T captured by Susie. He wakes up at the end of the game, in the rubble of the Castle. Rather, Susie gathered the DNA via other means. Great Video, still. Just felt the need to point it out.
Ah, yes. My unscheduled dose of Kirby-induced depression. Also, we may see Susie again, but she likely won't be in an antagonistic role, unless Kirby really wants to poke his nonexistent nose into things that have no connection with him. Susie's not stupid. She knows how powerful Kirby truly is. I would be extremely shocked if she tried invading Popstar again.
Yeah, I definitely believe the Japanese version much more in Star Allies. It would explain why Susie is even on Popstar again and wants to defeat those of Jambastion in the first place--they are going against the harmony she desires. Susie is smart, she has seen the capabilities of Kirby, and would not mess with him or his planet again, it all adds up.
5:08 just a little correction, it actually does. However, because Susie was already alive, the machine could not complete the wish, turning the error generated from the machine into a attack.
Maybe the error was under the fault of either the Haltman Works engineers who worked on Star Dream or the programmers who programmed it. If it really was perfect, it would've tried to find a way to recreate memories if a wish was already granted but the wisher forgot all about it.
Saddest character in kirby, truly amazing given the fact that on the outside it just looks like the cliche of the capitalistic asshole but when you dig deeper, it's just a poor guy who lost the one thing he cherished the most.
Tizo Epic gamer don’t forget that they only had to kill Sectonia cause HE gave Sectonia the mirror... maybe he doesn’t just miss her or feel sorry for her... maybe he also feels guilty cause none of it would’ve happened had he just not brought the mirror.
He does not have any hints towards him being the person who fucked up other than the change only happening after that event. Also, according to team kirby clash deluxe, he just has the ironic luck of always finding a mirror with dark mind inside of it.
Plus in the end of the true arena during Nova's heart being destroyed you can hear one last scream from haltmann but it's very slowed down and distorted which literally means this man's soul has been erased from existence
This should sum up the robobot armour pretty well: “Its energy signature far exceeds that of the Invader Armor, our combat mech. The nearly infinite power within this life-form is astounding. Calculating probability of survival... It doesn't look good.” - Star Dream (Robobot Armour)
Interesting how star dream became a mindless machine after Haltmann's soul was destroyed. Souls seem to have a special significance in Kirby. Unless you kill an enemies' soul, it does not stay dead. Now one person's soul was used, for a short time, to give Star Dream sentience. Makes me wonder what else you can do by burning a soul.
"Why did I react such a terrible machine? Oh, I remember. I wanted to see *her* once more. How foolishness! I should know that no machine could make that *dream* come true..."
This has to be one of the *darkest* and *saddest* kirby stories ever. Like legit this one actually disturbing to me. The guy literally lost what he cares about the most because of his company. Sad story indeed.
I like to think that as an good-aligned eldritch being of sorts, Kirby has a way of sensing when people have a tragic backstory, and innately tries to comfort them and be their friend...the more tragic the fate, the more Kirby wants to befriend them. And I think it breaks his little heart when the only thing he can do is put them out of their misery. He successfully redeemed so many others: -King Dedede? Gradually reformed and became a hero in his own right. -Dark Matter? Part of it split off and became Gooey. -Void Termina? It's subtly implied that Kirby is a Void Termina born of positive energy and emotions, and the dark god understood what friendship was in its final moments. -Fecto Forgo? It became part of Elfilin. -Leongar? Redeemed. Twice. -Daroach? Wasn't bad, just corrupted by Dark Mind. -Claycia? Controlled by Dark Crafter. -Dyna Blade? Just wanted to take care of her babies. -Magalor? It took a while, but he became good. The only major ones Kirby probably had no thoughts of redeeming were Hyness, Necrodeus, Marx, Dark Meta Knight/Dark Mind, Drawcia, and Yin Yarn. But Sectonia and Haltmann, in his mind, might be his greatest failures.
This was highly comprehensive, although I doubt Susie would replicate the mistakes her father had. At worst, she may lead a socialist inter-planetary regime where she "exterminates the uncivilized," but at best, the friend hearts thrown at her by Kirby may change her for the better. Besides, Pres. Parallel Susie is not the same as our base-universe Susie.
Wait... *_Kirby_* has _Infinite Power?_ If he's *powerful* _enough_ to make a machine surpass it's original programming, then perhaps you should save a *_remaster_* of that *"What is Kirby Canon? - Kirby" Video* for the next *_BIG_* _Kirby Game_ that's coming.
Wow, I knew that the guest star translation was different, but I didn't know that Susie said she wanted to (humbly) exterminate the uncivilized. That's pretty awesome actually, and it fits her character. Hopefully the translation team will improve next game, because they seemed to make more mistakes than usual with Star Allies.
Goku: I have the ability to increase my power at will and fight planet busters. Superman: I can move so fast my fist has infinite mass, I also fight planet busters. Kirby: I make robots happy. :)
From a previous remaster video, you have theorize that Susie did escape Another Dimension with Maglor. Could these event happen after Maglor's Boss fight as he was stuck between dimensions?
Magolor was sent to a world "beyond time and space" outside of Another Dimension after his defeat. There's no way Susie could have met him and escaped with him unless she somehow travelled to that same world.
i know its late but maybe since magolor had expierence navigating Another Dimension he found his way through,since he knows the routing a bit and saved susie with his leftover powers
I don’t care how badly the story is told. I don’t care if you can only fully experience it through pausing the game and through the dead social media that is Miiverse. Kirby: Planet Robobot has my favorite story in ALL of video gaming. PERIOD.
Maybe Magolor is behind the whole thing. He seems to have a GREAT knowledge of Ancient Technology, and he said himself that he modified the Lor Starcutter. Maybe he gave Haltmann the Nova and Star Dream, along with bringing back Susie.
Jeez… I learned a bit about Star dream and Haltmann from the comments on Man On The Internet’s “Star Dream” song… and seeing some of the clips actually explains some of the lyrics. That’s unrelated though. Seeing a full analysis of it makes you realize just how deep and just how awful the situation is. I haven’t finished the video yet, but my jaw has dropped numerous times. I myself haven’t played Robobot, but still this breaks my heart.
Did anyone else notice when dream soul os is summoning the parts of nova that got shot off in super star the portal used to summon them is a heart shape
This is just wishful thinking but while the English version of Susie’s “About” page is ominous, the Japanese version is a bit more hopeful. Maybe Susie genuinely wants to spread peace through out the galaxy and the “uncivilized savages” are similar foes Kirby deals with hence why she came back to Popstar in “Kirby: Star Allies”. Plus after seeing what Kirby can do, Susie probably wouldn’t go after Popstar again. And knowing Kirby, he doesn’t really spring into action unless Popstar is being attacked somehow. Side note: Pres. Susie isn’t even our Susie but rather a more “colder” alternative Susie. So that’s not really incriminating our Susie but that does lay out a foundation of maybe canon!Susie and President!Susie having a rivalry (like Meta Knight and Galactica Knight or Meta Knight and Dark!Meta Knight.)
I feel we might get more lore in forgotten land. The little bits of lore found in forgotten lands demo. His company possibly was working alongside the beast corps to help create a world for the ancients
9:10 I'm pretty sure they meant the Armor's own memory was transferred between suits, so that it was the same memory each time even if the armors were different.
So Kirby is meant to be a kids game, and that’s what this lore is hard to find: Haltman experiment with a mother computer, his daughter goes missing, the computer slowly eats away at his memory, his daughter returns but he doesn’t even recognise her, he gets BETRAYED by his own daughter who accidentally turns him into star dream’s voice box, the computer decides it wants world domination as all computers do, haltman soul gets destroyed and Susie has no boss and no father. It’s like the taranza and sectonia incident, but the somehow made it worse!
In Star Dream Soul OS I don't necessarily believe that all of Haltmann was traced away since you still hear his screams and groans. Even when the heart shatters.
Imagine what happened if there was no trace of Haltmanns soul left to be purged . Star dream would be unbeatable. In soul os he was nearly done purging everything and the remaining vanished between destroying pillars and the heart exploding. But then again he lost sentience near the end.
I think this might be the darkest Kirby game, when I was a kid and played it I thought it was just a “cool robot game” but I didn’t realise the lore was this deep
Also don't forget that when Star Dream is in Phase 3, it attacks by counting down. Galactic Nova also counts down whenever it grants someone a wish. Since this is another Nova, that means that Star Dream might be trying to grant a wish. But whenever it finishes the count, it has a Fatal Error rather than granting a wish. Then, the whole thing loops. Haltmann wished for Susie to come back, even when she was back. The Fatal Errors, countdowns and Haltmann's wishes all but seem to confirm that *Star Dream is trying to wish for Susie to come back but it keeps failing because she's already back!*
I don't think the next main game will be announced until next year. If it's as great and ambitious as everyone wants it to be, then it's going to take significantly longer to make, and that's not even factoring this year's real-world issues impacting development.
Robobot is kinda the ultimate game. it took everything the series did in the past, did its own thing with it and then made a masterpiece of a contentpile with good storypacing and interessting ways to justify some of the rehashes it did do.
Well, a peakgame is still a peak. That it did not do much new stuff outside of having a 3d nova does not really matter for that. And considering Hal blew their chance of having a great transition to 3d on the mediocre thing that was blowout blast, I don't think I want them to do diffrent things for the sake of being diffrent.
@@Edgeperor I still don't understand why they didn't put all of that information in the game instead? They did it with the other past games, so what made them change their mind? I guess we'll never know
Oh shit I just realized that the reason that robot guy who was a boss in Superstar ultra is in this game is bc Haltman took over Halcondra and that's y it's so mechanized. So that robot is Haltmans!!!
I posted on miiverse on a theroy I have is that the big planet un the background during the first phase on star dream was Haltmann and Susie's home planet
My best guesses about how Susie will turn out if she returns is that she might end up as a somewhat less malicious version of her father. Like, she would still exterminate the uncivilized, but this time would think more about society than profit.
Odd how Kirby lore is so underrated, some players only wanted the game experience, but not about understanding the game, like the loremakers of the internet, without the loremakers pointing and assembling things out, some game makers will have no motivation to make such a secretive lore, such as the maskers of FNaF, Bendy, Kirby and almost every other large game
Okay, so the "Susie wants to continue Mechanization" line is actually an improper translation/localization. What it says in the Japanese version translates more to "Susie is using the company and its resources to help the galaxy and right her fathers wrongs."
Alright, first off, I forgot to give credit to VoidNathan for the theory about Susie wanting to access the database in the video, so there you go!
Second, don't worry, the next two canon videos I upload are going to be brand new, not remasters. Then after that, one more remaster, and POSSIBLY another new one based on info I could assemble.
Thanks for watching, and I hope you continue to enjoy this series!
That's super cool ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I have a theory of Who are the ancients but i dont know were i can post it.
(The stone ability helped me to discover it)
It's a great series!
Well, now my theory is in the "new Chanel section video"
In the uk version the 2.0 susie description it say that “susie went missing when she was a child when a experiment with the Mother Computer wheat terribly wrong.She joined the company after all this time? Her full name is Susanna Patrya Haltmann “.
Every Robobot Armor form is personalized
"You want fun? Kirby show you fun!"
The Haltmann Apparition
No time for a creepy Super Mario 64 joke!
@@erlindaibarreta8611 Every Super Mario64 copy holds a creepy luigi
@@lpfan4491 As a friend of the Decomp team, I can tell you they found unused code for a 2nd player throughout the game, blatantly obviously for Luigi.
Well Kaze made it happen and more, so that's that imo.
Kirby Lore is so amazing. I hate the fact some people think Kirby games are so childish and friendly. Just like how Nintendo introduced Triple Deluxe. But then we discovered the true story about Sectonia and Taranza. It was really sad but interesting- just like Susie and Haltman
HAL Laboratory Inc. creates the games and stories, Nintendo publishes them. What did you expect? Nintendo to be good enough to create the Kirby of the Stars series? Well they are kind alright with stuff like Pikmin and Xenoblade Chronicles, but still.
To be fair, most people only buy the games because they're expecting a cute kid-friendly game, not because of the dark undertones in the series. It only makes sense to advertise them as such.
I still think that kirbygames are actually best enjoyed for their gameplay and cute nature. I once was actually really into the lore, but then I got more and more confirmation that what I built with the pieces that Hal gave us was completely false and I am overthinking everything because it is basically meaningless. Galacta knight is still supposed to exist somehow, yet he will never have any relevancy. Haltmanns soul is not deleted because the soulfights are noncanon and dedede never actually showed dark metaknight who's boss. And star allies is the most boring game ever because while it has a sad backstory, nothing interessting actually happens if we are to assume that only the mainstory is canon.
@@lpfan4491 Eh, I think it's safe to assume that Heroes in Another Dimension is canon as well, since it's quite different to most extra modes, and it's a lot more original.
Gameplay is still the most important thing, but I can still appreciate the lore because it gives more context to the universe and its characters. Kirby may not have fought Void Termina two more times, but that doesn't mean there's nothing interesting about Void in canon, since extra mode descriptions can still have relevancy to the main canon.
With Star Allies in particular, nothing less interesting happens in its canon events than any other Kirby game.
@Muse Suse Tell that any visual novel, western storygame or xenoblade chronicles.
And I thought Taranza & Sectonia’s backstories are depressing...
That's Kirby for you! A game aimed for new comers for gaming with quite dark and depressing storys!
Those 2 stories are my favorites
Triple deluxe was my first game after super star ultra so it stuck with me
That's because it was.
@JF_Abridged is the capitalization an undertale reference
@@oracleproduction4511 I don’t think so
It’s probably so you know what’s actually going on
I find it interesting how in Hyness' rant, he said "They tried to erase us from existence" which is exactly what star dream did to Haltmann.
maybe thats why the ancients built the nova and the dream rods, they were trying to erease the jamba cult after they defeated the galagtic crisis
god I hate the ancients
Insane. I wanna learn more about the Ancients!
In the original Japanese version, they actually DID erase his clan's existence from history, only leaving a sliver of it left.
Scott ! Dammmmmm
FUN FACT: President Haltman's design originated from an unused Magalor Soul design.
If I'm correct, Star Dream's beta design was based off of 02; originally it was less cylindrical and had a more prominent eye, but the wings were still carried over to the design used in-game
Planet Cheese YOU SIR, are correct
Planet Cheese not only that. But even more concept art shows that he was going to resemble Zero, Dark Matter (True form) and even Dark Nebula
This really surprises me, they really changed the design a lot
*"It just works."*
- Haltmann
One error in the video is that Dedede WASN'T captured by Susie. He wakes up at the end of the game, in the rubble of the Castle. Rather, Susie gathered the DNA via other means.
Great Video, still. Just felt the need to point it out.
Via other means?
How?
@@ImmaLittlePip i dunno, maybe she snuck into the castle ruins, took a sample of the unconscious dedede's spit?
@@rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec6006 how about just his fur..
@@lyy2099 Feathers. He's a penguin.
nah, spit is funnier
Ah, yes. My unscheduled dose of Kirby-induced depression. Also, we may see Susie again, but she likely won't be in an antagonistic role, unless Kirby really wants to poke his nonexistent nose into things that have no connection with him. Susie's not stupid. She knows how powerful Kirby truly is. I would be extremely shocked if she tried invading Popstar again.
unless it's parallel susie,she won't
In star allies she’s a ally
Yeah, I definitely believe the Japanese version much more in Star Allies. It would explain why Susie is even on Popstar again and wants to defeat those of Jambastion in the first place--they are going against the harmony she desires.
Susie is smart, she has seen the capabilities of Kirby, and would not mess with him or his planet again, it all adds up.
The reason this video took 40+ hours to premiere is because Star Dream accidentally uploaded it with Internet Explorer.
(underrated comments)
Or because Star Dream was trying to sabotage the video to not being exposed.
I thought internet explorer is dead.
oops
@@lpfan4491, enter colress
5:08 just a little correction, it actually does. However, because Susie was already alive, the machine could not complete the wish, turning the error generated from the machine into a attack.
Maybe the error was under the fault of either the Haltman Works engineers who worked on Star Dream or the programmers who programmed it. If it really was perfect, it would've tried to find a way to recreate memories if a wish was already granted but the wisher forgot all about it.
5:08 He was saying that Star Dream needed to fuse with the Access Ark before it had enough power to grant a wish.
Saddest character in kirby, truly amazing given the fact that on the outside it just looks like the cliche of the capitalistic asshole but when you dig deeper, it's just a poor guy who lost the one thing he cherished the most.
Tizo Epic gamer don’t forget that they only had to kill Sectonia cause HE gave Sectonia the mirror... maybe he doesn’t just miss her or feel sorry for her... maybe he also feels guilty cause none of it would’ve happened had he just not brought the mirror.
He does not have any hints towards him being the person who fucked up other than the change only happening after that event. Also, according to team kirby clash deluxe, he just has the ironic luck of always finding a mirror with dark mind inside of it.
@@lpfan4491 oh i didn't know he actually never finds out that it was the mirror's fault... huh well thanks for correcting my mistake :p
Plus in the end of the true arena during Nova's heart being destroyed you can hear one last scream from haltmann but it's very slowed down and distorted which literally means this man's soul has been erased from existence
If there's an afterlife in Kirby's universe, Haltmann doesn't get to see it.
Poor Haltmann....he just wanted to see susie again..
You can really tell that Meteorz wants to emphasize how depressing Haltmann's story is, just listen to his tone of voice at 5:59
Yeah it brings a lot more emotion into it...
You again!
This should sum up the robobot armour pretty well: “Its energy signature far exceeds that of the Invader Armor, our combat mech. The nearly infinite power within this life-form is astounding. Calculating probability of survival... It doesn't look good.” - Star Dream (Robobot Armour)
Honestly the saddest thing in this video is you mentioning miiverse...
RIP
Miiverse was bad, honestly.
(I joke of course...)
KIRBO THE PICKLEMASTER :D it was shut down, that why you can’t chat
Interesting how star dream became a mindless machine after Haltmann's soul was destroyed. Souls seem to have a special significance in Kirby. Unless you kill an enemies' soul, it does not stay dead. Now one person's soul was used, for a short time, to give Star Dream sentience. Makes me wonder what else you can do by burning a soul.
"Haltman really got screwed"
Competition For LOST metal joke
HA, I get it, cause star dream has a “screw” loose and is a screw
@Competition For LOST Because it's a dumb joke (ok, maybe it is funny)
He got what he deserved. GOOD RIDDANCE!
Siivagunner has pretty amazingly demonstrated that "The Noble Haltmann" goes with just about everything
Fnaf:I have a deep complicated heartbreaking lore
Kirby:hold my maximum tomato
Nah kirb is darker
@@nataliasoto9681 dude, that's the joke
"Why did I react such a terrible machine? Oh, I remember. I wanted to see *her* once more. How foolishness! I should know that no machine could make that *dream* come true..."
This has to be one of the *darkest* and *saddest* kirby stories ever.
Like legit this one actually disturbing to me.
The guy literally lost what he cares about the most because of his company.
Sad story indeed.
Not only that, as a result, you are *slowly killing him* through fighting Star Dream Soul OS.
Why do I see you everywhere
@@Potato-pc4tj #nolife
Serves him right.
I like to think that as an good-aligned eldritch being of sorts, Kirby has a way of sensing when people have a tragic backstory, and innately tries to comfort them and be their friend...the more tragic the fate, the more Kirby wants to befriend them. And I think it breaks his little heart when the only thing he can do is put them out of their misery.
He successfully redeemed so many others:
-King Dedede? Gradually reformed and became a hero in his own right.
-Dark Matter? Part of it split off and became Gooey.
-Void Termina? It's subtly implied that Kirby is a Void Termina born of positive energy and emotions, and the dark god understood what friendship was in its final moments.
-Fecto Forgo? It became part of Elfilin.
-Leongar? Redeemed. Twice.
-Daroach? Wasn't bad, just corrupted by Dark Mind.
-Claycia? Controlled by Dark Crafter.
-Dyna Blade? Just wanted to take care of her babies.
-Magalor? It took a while, but he became good.
The only major ones Kirby probably had no thoughts of redeeming were Hyness, Necrodeus, Marx, Dark Meta Knight/Dark Mind, Drawcia, and Yin Yarn. But Sectonia and Haltmann, in his mind, might be his greatest failures.
I say Sectonia didn't deserve what she got, but Haltmann?! Two words:
GOOD. RIDDANCE.
@@AntasmaTheBatKingThank god someone else realized that Haltmann killed trillions and destroyed so many worlds just for one person
It’s even more sad bc she originally just wanted her dad to remember again and yet she accidentally sent him to hell by stealing that helmet
Serves him right, if you ask me. One less wacko in the world, I say!
This was highly comprehensive, although I doubt Susie would replicate the mistakes her father had. At worst, she may lead a socialist inter-planetary regime where she "exterminates the uncivilized," but at best, the friend hearts thrown at her by Kirby may change her for the better.
Besides, Pres. Parallel Susie is not the same as our base-universe Susie.
You watch Kirby Canon too??
@@GoldWheels I am a Kirby fan. What did you expect?
Me and 7 other people are just staring at a screen that has the thumbnail and says that we have to wait 39 hours till we get to watch the video.
Wait... *_Kirby_* has _Infinite Power?_
If he's *powerful* _enough_ to make a machine surpass it's original programming, then perhaps you should save a *_remaster_* of that *"What is Kirby Canon? - Kirby" Video* for the next *_BIG_* _Kirby Game_ that's coming.
well it's kind of canon that puyo is some short of elrich god born by positive energy xD, so of course he as INFINITE PAWA!
@@poijnve3912 so puyo Tetris is...
infinite 3d power not legit infinite
Kirby is legit god
I love how Kirby is a little cute pink ball ,but is also a killing machine
One of my favorite video-game character
My stars! This seems like a dream come true!
oi shut up! 💛💜💙 😁
This comes out on my birthday! Thanks for the gift!
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday!
Happy Birthday ^•^ !
Happy birthday! 💛💜💙
happy birthday!!!
Wow, I knew that the guest star translation was different, but I didn't know that Susie said she wanted to (humbly) exterminate the uncivilized. That's pretty awesome actually, and it fits her character. Hopefully the translation team will improve next game, because they seemed to make more mistakes than usual with Star Allies.
Hi, magalor
Were girls cry:titanic
Were boys cry:last episode of anime
Were MEN cry:robobot ending cutscene
alt for haltmann's screams in the heart of nova: *haltmann stepping on a lego*
i think dedee needs a bigger and stroner arsenal i mean he probably will have a way bigger castle with a lot more and bigger cannons
Nice! I've been really hoping for some new videos, I hope everyone is doing well!
Well, well, this is good news.
Goku: I have the ability to increase my power at will and fight planet busters.
Superman: I can move so fast my fist has infinite mass, I also fight planet busters.
Kirby: I make robots happy. :)
This is honestly one of the saddest stories in Kirby history for me.
Star Dreams Concept artwork actually opens a lot of questions as well
Basically every Kirby antagonist is just in the background and unnoticed until the next Kirby game.
They have some great pause screen descriptions
imagine making a kid friendly game
this post was made by HAL gang
I'm really excited for where this series is going next. After all, we're still waiting for the "Pinnacle" of the Kirby series.
I am still taking planet robobot as being that.
Even for the usual brand of messed up Kirby lore, this is pretty depressing
From a previous remaster video, you have theorize that Susie did escape Another Dimension with Maglor. Could these event happen after Maglor's Boss fight as he was stuck between dimensions?
Magolor was sent to a world "beyond time and space" outside of Another Dimension after his defeat. There's no way Susie could have met him and escaped with him unless she somehow travelled to that same world.
Would make sense, since Star Dream could summon Galacta Knight from space and time
I would assume she literally just found a way out or a gateway opened after magolor was beaten. But what do i know?
i know its late but maybe since magolor had expierence navigating Another Dimension he found his way through,since he knows the routing a bit and saved susie with his leftover powers
I don’t care how badly the story is told. I don’t care if you can only fully experience it through pausing the game and through the dead social media that is Miiverse.
Kirby: Planet Robobot has my favorite story in ALL of video gaming. PERIOD.
Maybe Magolor is behind the whole thing. He seems to have a GREAT knowledge of Ancient Technology, and he said himself that he modified the Lor Starcutter. Maybe he gave Haltmann the Nova and Star Dream, along with bringing back Susie.
What if Haltmann is actually...
*Tiff’s Dad gone evil*
What if Haltmann is actually...
*Haltmann*
NANI!?
What if Haltmann is actually...
Susie’s Mom
PLOT TWIST!
These comments here, are gold...
What if Haltmann is actually...
Dr. Robotnik's Halacandrian counterpart from Another Dimension?
Seeing another Nova had me absolutely ecstatic, It was by far my personal highlights of the game
Nice to see a new lore video!
I thought Dark Meta Knight came with Kirby and the crew because he was interested in the Jamba Hearts
Jeez…
I learned a bit about Star dream and Haltmann from the comments on Man On The Internet’s “Star Dream” song… and seeing some of the clips actually explains some of the lyrics. That’s unrelated though. Seeing a full analysis of it makes you realize just how deep and just how awful the situation is. I haven’t finished the video yet, but my jaw has dropped numerous times. I myself haven’t played Robobot, but still this breaks my heart.
It's pretty remarkable how on the nose Haltmann is as a metaphor for colonialism and capitalism.
Alexa this backstory is so sad, play despacito
Did anyone else notice when dream soul os is summoning the parts of nova that got shot off in super star the portal used to summon them is a heart shape
Oh my gosh, this video was SO good, yet SO depressing. WHAT A ROLLERCOASTER!
This is just wishful thinking but while the English version of Susie’s “About” page is ominous, the Japanese version is a bit more hopeful. Maybe Susie genuinely wants to spread peace through out the galaxy and the “uncivilized savages” are similar foes Kirby deals with hence why she came back to Popstar in “Kirby: Star Allies”. Plus after seeing what Kirby can do, Susie probably wouldn’t go after Popstar again. And knowing Kirby, he doesn’t really spring into action unless Popstar is being attacked somehow.
Side note: Pres. Susie isn’t even our Susie but rather a more “colder” alternative Susie. So that’s not really incriminating our Susie but that does lay out a foundation of maybe canon!Susie and President!Susie having a rivalry (like Meta Knight and Galactica Knight or Meta Knight and Dark!Meta Knight.)
man, we DEFINITELY need a Kirby planet robobot and triple deluxe remake. Hopefully that might help with the weird susie stuff
Somewhere there's a discussion about which of the stories are sadder taranza's or haltmann's
all the present tence stuff about Star dream and Haltmann would be past tense since you know...Kirby kinda blew them up
10:27 Unrelated: A thicc rat
So Storo.
I feel we might get more lore in forgotten land. The little bits of lore found in forgotten lands demo. His company possibly was working alongside the beast corps to help create a world for the ancients
Well, your guess was a little ways off.... but we sure did get some juicy lore. :D
lol says after susie witnessed kirby's power she had a plan based on it all along.
9:10 I'm pretty sure they meant the Armor's own memory was transferred between suits, so that it was the same memory each time even if the armors were different.
"New planets and new *peoples* "
*nice*
So Kirby is meant to be a kids game, and that’s what this lore is hard to find: Haltman experiment with a mother computer, his daughter goes missing, the computer slowly eats away at his memory, his daughter returns but he doesn’t even recognise her, he gets BETRAYED by his own daughter who accidentally turns him into star dream’s voice box, the computer decides it wants world domination as all computers do, haltman soul gets destroyed and Susie has no boss and no father. It’s like the taranza and sectonia incident, but the somehow made it worse!
One less wacko in the Kirby universe, I say. *Good riddance!*
In Star Dream Soul OS I don't necessarily believe that all of Haltmann was traced away since you still hear his screams and groans. Even when the heart shatters.
The shattering heart scream was Haltmann's soul screaming in agony as it fades out for eternity.
Imagine what happened if there was no trace of Haltmanns soul left to be purged . Star dream would be unbeatable. In soul os he was nearly done purging everything and the remaining vanished between destroying pillars and the heart exploding. But then again he lost sentience near the end.
When i defeated Heart of Nova i was horrified but at the same time i was criying
:c
I think this might be the darkest Kirby game, when I was a kid and played it I thought it was just a “cool robot game” but I didn’t realise the lore was this deep
A part of me hopes that all dream friends are canon because I really hope that Susie won't share her father's fate
Bro this is making me cry... Poor Susie
Also don't forget that when Star Dream is in Phase 3, it attacks by counting down. Galactic Nova also counts down whenever it grants someone a wish. Since this is another Nova, that means that Star Dream might be trying to grant a wish. But whenever it finishes the count, it has a Fatal Error rather than granting a wish. Then, the whole thing loops. Haltmann wished for Susie to come back, even when she was back. The Fatal Errors, countdowns and Haltmann's wishes all but seem to confirm that *Star Dream is trying to wish for Susie to come back but it keeps failing because she's already back!*
If a space shuttle launches it's moving pretty fast, but getting out of the atmosphere can take a bit. Considering it's very far up
It's been two years since Star Allies! Think a new game will be announced soon?
I don't think the next main game will be announced until next year. If it's as great and ambitious as everyone wants it to be, then it's going to take significantly longer to make, and that's not even factoring this year's real-world issues impacting development.
Well on twitter Hal has discussing about making the ultimate game for Kirby. If we get lucky they could announced new trailer in the rest of this year
Robobot is kinda the ultimate game. it took everything the series did in the past, did its own thing with it and then made a masterpiece of a contentpile with good storypacing and interessting ways to justify some of the rehashes it did do.
LPFan it was good, but it was more an improvement on the Return to Dreamland formula than anything else
Well, a peakgame is still a peak. That it did not do much new stuff outside of having a 3d nova does not really matter for that. And considering Hal blew their chance of having a great transition to 3d on the mediocre thing that was blowout blast, I don't think I want them to do diffrent things for the sake of being diffrent.
So Haltman is basically Kirby's answer to Fire Emblem's Nergal. Even when Sakurai left HAL, the love for Fire Emblem lingers on.
Not sure if this is relevant, but in Star Allies news, it was stated that Kirby had a tough time taking down Susie’s mech.
The bit about Star Dream/ the Robobot Armor being good or evil based on the emotions of their master really reminded me of Void.
Keep up with the What is kirby Canon series its great!
New context!
10:27 I can’t find this article anywhere in the Nintendo Switch News! Did it get deleted?
Probably, they delete those posts over time. Which is REALLY annoying.
I hate that.
Ah yes, I liked this game's story.
I like the story, but like Meteorz, I don't like how they explained it
GoldWheels yeah, I like the idea of optional lore, but they did too much via Miiverse
@@Edgeperor I still don't understand why they didn't put all of that information in the game instead? They did it with the other past games, so what made them change their mind?
I guess we'll never know
I’m curious what new lore has been uncovered! No matter what I’m sure it will be interesting thougj
*epic* Also for the people on the stream...
*THE END V5*
Shiver star the result of necrodeus destroying the light and haltman saying, FREE REAL ESTATE and making factories.
YES MORE KIRBY CANON
Susie is kinda scary
Oh shit I just realized that the reason that robot guy who was a boss in Superstar ultra is in this game is bc Haltman took over Halcondra and that's y it's so mechanized. So that robot is Haltmans!!!
It's waiting time
I think they purposefully made Susie's ending ambiguous.
So no one is going to talk about how Star Dream was basically a Skynet version of O², heck it even has an eye much like the other dark matters?
Heck, in the original concept art it looked even MORE like Zero Two.
for Planet Robobot, does anyone else see this final boss as being similar to one of the last bosses in Star Fox 64?
I posted on miiverse on a theroy I have is that the big planet un the background during the first phase on star dream was Haltmann and Susie's home planet
My best guesses about how Susie will turn out if she returns is that she might end up as a somewhat less malicious version of her father. Like, she would still exterminate the uncivilized, but this time would think more about society than profit.
*LETSA FUCKING GOOOOO* !!!
No swearing in this Christian comment section
@@MrSplashMan0 no u.
I'm getting Fawful's Minion vibes
Oh hey, Foulowe!
@@oimenamesrick hi ! ^•^
(To be honest, i don't remember seeing you before, but still ! Ok. yeah, i am a big no brainer, sorry...)
Who would win in a fight
A president with robotic army and a planet size wish granting machine | One pink boi
Trainer Chris The pink boi
Odd how Kirby lore is so underrated, some players only wanted the game experience, but not about understanding the game, like the loremakers of the internet, without the loremakers pointing and assembling things out, some game makers will have no motivation to make such a secretive lore, such as the maskers of FNaF, Bendy, Kirby and almost every other large game
For the love of god, don’t put Kirby anywhere near fnaf and bendy
That’s the main reason I do the arenas, to see more enemy descriptions
Okay, so the "Susie wants to continue Mechanization" line is actually an improper translation/localization. What it says in the Japanese version translates more to "Susie is using the company and its resources to help the galaxy and right her fathers wrongs."
3:02
Susie: Murders someone
Susie 2 seconds later: Yipeee!