Watched all of your assist hook series, and they were very informative. This video is especially good with various ways to tie assist hooks using spade type. I like the first method (cleanest), Shimano also easy to tie, but I've been using the 3rd style @14:45. bulky but seem most reliable with that half hitch. Are all 3 equally reliable?
Hi Tdoo, All 3 are reliable, but the third way is also the bulkiest. I don't use this method type a lot because it also has the biggest potential to make the entry hole bigger if the hook somehow slides up. When the hooks are attached to the mouth of the fish, they are subjected to a lot of forces and accidents do happen - so I want my system to be as flawless as possible - it is impossible to have a perfect system, but you can make things you are able to control as perfectly as possible. The first way is usually my choice, but the way shimano does it has been creeping up more coz of the ease and efficiency of the method.
@@tdoo6024 There are certain things to note for this - like the braid you use to bind the cord to the hook. Should you need anything, feel free to get in touch with me on IG, same username.
@@TheFishingKit I am using PE 0.6 (0.10mm) Braid 8 Strands line to bind the lines. I've tried all the methods and I like the one where I spliced the Kevlar line at the solid ring then use the first method (hook penetrating both lines) and bind the line to the shaft with PE 0.6. For double assist hook setup, I have 2 separate spliced lines to the solid ring, then bind one hook to each line and making sure to align the hooks to the solid ring so that they are on the same plane. I find this setup gives me the best result where two hooks are facing each other perfectly and they don't get misaligned when you pull on one hook against a solid ring like a fish would. I have tied hundreds of assist hooks and different styles from other utubers. All will work, but your explanations gave me the freedom to mix and match and got the results I wanted in assist hooks (Single or Double, with or without flashes) I have 100% confident in the binds (tested them in my garage, and only able to bend the hooks, binds remained intact). BTW, braided Kevlar line from 9KM on AliExpress worked great. 300lbs test is hard to splice but 400lbs and 500lbs are much easier to splice. Tape the end of the Kevlar before you insert the splicing needle so the Kevlar won't unravel. Hope this help others who watch your videos.
@@tdoo6024 Thanks for the useful comment. Aliexpress cords are hit and miss, but if you find ones that work - they work :) I have helped two major brands with some assist hook design and development work...so what I show is pretty much an industry standard...also - there are more that I have shown in my IG that people haven't figured out yet. :)
I just got the owner vice, its very good for the price and grips the hook well. Tied my first set of assist hooks and they are plenty strong, the hooks bend out first
Yup, they are not bad! I have only seen them and held them, but not actually use them. From what I can see, they look pretty good though. I have made things clear that I like clamps instead of the base coz I could really torque the thread down when I tie the assist hooks - take note of this.
@@TheFishingKit Yes the vise actually comes with a clamp and a base both are good and the base if very heavy and stable. It also came with a case for the vise and assist hook tying gear
Thank you for the great tutorial. Tying and using assist hooks seems to still be in it's babystepps in Germany, so I really appreciate your fast response.
Great to hear! I was already going to make this since a lot have asked for it Crash, there are a lot of types of Assist hooks, not just for jigs. This video is just for the jigs. You can put assist hooks on plugs, spoons and other lures. Actually very effective.
By the way for shore jigging 40g jig what is the best jig hook size and Kevlar lbs? I using 1.5mm seem like too heavy to jig for 40g. Hook size I using #2
hook side does not depends on the weight of the jig. it depends on the width of the jig. it could be that the 40g you are using is narrower than other jigs of the same weight right? as far as cords are concerned, it pretty much depends on what you are catching or trying to catch. you can go as light as 50lb or as high up as 200/300. If you are building your own, then then you can adjust things the way it fits your use. This is the biggest thing about making your own.
Definitely good information and good detail for a beginner such as myself. My question would be what is the braid that you are using on the bobbin to wrap the assist cord to the shank of the hook? And also what size assist cord do you use for your rigs? Thank you for all the great information and direction!🤙🏻🎣🤘🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
the binding line is very thin braid...if you are in the US, it would be hard, but elsewhere, it is PE0.4. the size of the cord depends on the size of the hook and the jig you are planning to use it on.
I’m a beginner just starting and was curious what brand of vise do you recommend. I have all the gear now except the vise. I love the rotating of the vise which makes it so much easier!
There's a lot really depends on your budget - there are rotating chinese made ones that are good enough - i am using my fly tying vise coz its what i have and i tie flies with it too. Wouldn't recommend going all out on a vise
Thankyou for the great video. I have watched most of your spj assist hook videos and i am thinking of making my own assist hooks because it is hard to find good assist hooks in stock where i live. I was wondering if i could do the first method for flurocarbon core assist cord. And what bobbin and vice are you using? Thankyou
@@sashahess3141 amzn.to/3TTLrzX this is the other one I use. same jaws. This is the lowest I would go because these are the ones that hold the hooks well in a very broad range. I have not found any other than can hold the hooks more secure for assist hook tying other than these two vises, there is a third one but only for smaller/thinner hooks
I use all sorts, Cultiva/Owner, Varivas and Xesta are top choices. Sizes depends on what I make them for, #1,#2,#3 and #4 are commonly used for offshore work, and smaller stuff for inshore use.
@@1V2N1V2 fly fishing thread wont work, very thin braid is what is commonly used for making assist hooks. Again, I suggest you watch the assist hook making videos because all the information you are looking for is there.
@@TheFishingKit I thought braid is not hydrophobic enough because it is often coated so it won't soak up the glue? Someone suggested me 200D thread and it seems to work for him
@@1V2N1V2 Again, this is info I mention in the assist hooks how to videos. What holds things in place is not the glue, it is the bindings themselves. if your binding isn't good, no amount of glue will make it better. IF your bindings are made with thread that is weak like fly tying thread, the structure they make even with glue is still going to be weak. The difficult part is looking for braid thats thin enough, because you won't find these braids in the US market, if you do, they are expensive. for most people outside the US, this is common for ultralight gear for Aji or mebaru fishing.
In the US maybe, there are alternative brands in Asia that make it cheaper. Not a lot of work at all, pretty much the same work for any type of modern fishing method. But, its its too difficult for you, there is always bait. :)
Watched all of your assist hook series, and they were very informative. This video is especially good with various ways to tie assist hooks using spade type. I like the first method (cleanest), Shimano also easy to tie, but I've been using the 3rd style @14:45. bulky but seem most reliable with that half hitch. Are all 3 equally reliable?
Hi Tdoo, All 3 are reliable, but the third way is also the bulkiest. I don't use this method type a lot because it also has the biggest potential to make the entry hole bigger if the hook somehow slides up. When the hooks are attached to the mouth of the fish, they are subjected to a lot of forces and accidents do happen - so I want my system to be as flawless as possible - it is impossible to have a perfect system, but you can make things you are able to control as perfectly as possible. The first way is usually my choice, but the way shimano does it has been creeping up more coz of the ease and efficiency of the method.
Thank you for the explanation. I'll try the first 2 methods for this season to see how well they work.
@@tdoo6024 There are certain things to note for this - like the braid you use to bind the cord to the hook. Should you need anything, feel free to get in touch with me on IG, same username.
@@TheFishingKit I am using PE 0.6 (0.10mm) Braid 8 Strands line to bind the lines. I've tried all the methods and I like the one where I spliced the Kevlar line at the solid ring then use the first method (hook penetrating both lines) and bind the line to the shaft with PE 0.6. For double assist hook setup, I have 2 separate spliced lines to the solid ring, then bind one hook to each line and making sure to align the hooks to the solid ring so that they are on the same plane. I find this setup gives me the best result where two hooks are facing each other perfectly and they don't get misaligned when you pull on one hook against a solid ring like a fish would. I have tied hundreds of assist hooks and different styles from other utubers. All will work, but your explanations gave me the freedom to mix and match and got the results I wanted in assist hooks (Single or Double, with or without flashes) I have 100% confident in the binds (tested them in my garage, and only able to bend the hooks, binds remained intact). BTW, braided Kevlar line from 9KM on AliExpress worked great. 300lbs test is hard to splice but 400lbs and 500lbs are much easier to splice. Tape the end of the Kevlar before you insert the splicing needle so the Kevlar won't unravel. Hope this help others who watch your videos.
@@tdoo6024 Thanks for the useful comment.
Aliexpress cords are hit and miss, but if you find ones that work - they work :)
I have helped two major brands with some assist hook design and development work...so what I show is pretty much an industry standard...also - there are more that I have shown in my IG that people haven't figured out yet. :)
Powerful Sir. Finally I found the way to get the best one.
:)
I just got the owner vice, its very good for the price and grips the hook well. Tied my first set of assist hooks and they are plenty strong, the hooks bend out first
Thank you for all the videos they where very helpful
Yup, they are not bad! I have only seen them and held them, but not actually use them. From what I can see, they look pretty good though. I have made things clear that I like clamps instead of the base coz I could really torque the thread down when I tie the assist hooks - take note of this.
@@TheFishingKit Yes the vise actually comes with a clamp and a base both are good and the base if very heavy and stable. It also came with a case for the vise and assist hook tying gear
@@sashahess3141 nice :D
very informative video,
Now I have a library of your valuable videos and it gets bigger as I watch more of your videos, thanks
Glad to help!
Thank you for the great tutorial. Tying and using assist hooks seems to still be in it's babystepps in Germany, so I really appreciate your fast response.
Great to hear! I was already going to make this since a lot have asked for it
Crash, there are a lot of types of Assist hooks, not just for jigs. This video is just for the jigs. You can put assist hooks on plugs, spoons and other lures. Actually very effective.
Awesome video bro! Thank you for sharing! Subbed and belled just immediately! ;-) Keep it up!
Welcome aboard! :)
@@TheFishingKit thanks
By the way for shore jigging 40g jig what is the best jig hook size and Kevlar lbs? I using 1.5mm seem like too heavy to jig for 40g. Hook size I using #2
hook side does not depends on the weight of the jig. it depends on the width of the jig. it could be that the 40g you are using is narrower than other jigs of the same weight right? as far as cords are concerned, it pretty much depends on what you are catching or trying to catch. you can go as light as 50lb or as high up as 200/300. If you are building your own, then then you can adjust things the way it fits your use. This is the biggest thing about making your own.
@@TheFishingKit understood sir finally i found the best to get some tips. 👍👍👍
Definitely good information and good detail for a beginner such as myself. My question would be what is the braid that you are using on the bobbin to wrap the assist cord to the shank of the hook? And also what size assist cord do you use for your rigs? Thank you for all the great information and direction!🤙🏻🎣🤘🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
the binding line is very thin braid...if you are in the US, it would be hard, but elsewhere, it is PE0.4. the size of the cord depends on the size of the hook and the jig you are planning to use it on.
I’m a beginner just starting and was curious what brand of vise do you recommend. I have all the gear now except the vise. I love the rotating of the vise which makes it so much easier!
There's a lot really depends on your budget - there are rotating chinese made ones that are good enough - i am using my fly tying vise coz its what i have and i tie flies with it too. Wouldn't recommend going all out on a vise
Nice tutorial vid...
Can you show how to tie assist hook with wire assist line with spade head hooks?
Thank you
you can try doing it with the method with the overhand knot at the end, as well as the last method.
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@@TheFishingKit thanks for the advice
Thankyou for the great video. I have watched most of your spj assist hook videos and i am thinking of making my own assist hooks because it is hard to find good assist hooks in stock where i live. I was wondering if i could do the first method for flurocarbon core assist cord. And what bobbin and vice are you using? Thankyou
amzn.to/3TSFfYL This is the bobbin holder
amzn.to/3BuBJ0v This is the vise
@@TheFishingKit ouch, the mongoose is expensive. Would you recommend any cheaper alternatives? Thanks.
@@sashahess3141 amzn.to/3TTLrzX this is the other one I use. same jaws. This is the lowest I would go because these are the ones that hold the hooks well in a very broad range. I have not found any other than can hold the hooks more secure for assist hook tying other than these two vises, there is a third one but only for smaller/thinner hooks
Thanks for the awesome tutorial Kit! One question. Which assist line u use and what number? Greetings from Greece!
I use all sorts, Cultiva/Owner, Varivas and Xesta are top choices. Sizes depends on what I make them for, #1,#2,#3 and #4 are commonly used for offshore work, and smaller stuff for inshore use.
Boss can you somehow use hollow assist cord for slow jigging or not at all?
You can take out the core and put flouro carbon inside for the top set and leave the core for the rear hook. Solid cords for the rear only.
Some great information, thanks! Can I use 24hr epoxy to secure the wrapping? That is the only glue I have here at the moment.
you can, I used to use that, but you need to have a turner for that.
@@TheFishingKit Thanks. Superglue works too? I was also wondering what size of thread you use? I have some fly tying stuff left here from 2/0 to 8/0
@@1V2N1V2 fly fishing thread wont work, very thin braid is what is commonly used for making assist hooks. Again, I suggest you watch the assist hook making videos because all the information you are looking for is there.
@@TheFishingKit I thought braid is not hydrophobic enough because it is often coated so it won't soak up the glue? Someone suggested me 200D thread and it seems to work for him
@@1V2N1V2 Again, this is info I mention in the assist hooks how to videos. What holds things in place is not the glue, it is the bindings themselves. if your binding isn't good, no amount of glue will make it better. IF your bindings are made with thread that is weak like fly tying thread, the structure they make even with glue is still going to be weak.
The difficult part is looking for braid thats thin enough, because you won't find these braids in the US market, if you do, they are expensive. for most people outside the US, this is common for ultralight gear for Aji or mebaru fishing.
Spk is too much work and money
In the US maybe, there are alternative brands in Asia that make it cheaper. Not a lot of work at all, pretty much the same work for any type of modern fishing method. But, its its too difficult for you, there is always bait. :)