I was wrong about small mushroom farms using liquid culture & why Mossy Creek Mushrooms now uses it.
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2019
- I was wrong about using liquid (tissue) culture to expand mycelium into liquid solutions. So
Liquid Mushroom Cultures and I have had a rocky relationship, but here are my reasons why Mossy Creek Mushrooms is switching to liquid culture.
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agar is more of a genetics tool, liquid culture is more of production tool
WHAT?????? That's complete Bull Shit. I guess it's true: "If you don't know the answer, it's OK to just make it up and say it with confidence." & "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with Bull Shit!"
chill
@@georgekatsinis5224 you didn't write anything to prove him wrong. His point still stands, you mo-ron.
How long does all mushroom liquid cultures Syringes last in room temperatures and Refrigerator? Is growing dove Oyster mushrooms the same process as growing Chicken of the woods? Bye using rye grain and straw hay!
Agar is excellent for isolation, allowing you to clone the strongest mycelia in a dish. LC allows you to produce more volume fast.
Your comment about people not sharing information is super accurate in my experience. I have had to figure almost every min max variable out myself. Many guides will show you a way, but it often can be improved upon in many ways.
Super happy I found your channel. Been going through all of your stuff. I find your Q and A's especially helpful.
From South Africa, planning on teaching locals to grow and sell food.
I need all the information I can get, obviously I’m no threat!
Peace out dude.
wow your amazing
Been using it from the beginning. Don't even need a magnetic stirrer to get good results. I use mason jars with a very simple modified lid using nothing more than micropore tape as a filter. Great results nearly 100% of the time.
Doing my first LC jars now. Do you bother swirling the liquid around in them at any point to oxygenate the water?
@@shadetreephilosopher5568 Hello, yes do that
Its like that in the Hemp industry,no one wants to help.Give bad info.Jealousy.Happy to see you fail.
It sucks! Glad to see you are an Earth man! Its good karma after all.
I always help people,its good for the soul!Where did you get your Magnetic stirrer?
that's what I was going to ask they all look the same and some don't work .. out of the box junk... Did you find a good one with heat? I can't risk another ebay special
We experienced them same problem when we started keeping 🐝bees. Eventually we found great people to help us, just like this special ❤guy.
I have a bunch of oyster mushroom liquid culture syringe i bought online like 2 years ago. Moved across country, kinda forgot about them in the fridge, FINALLY decided to give them a try a month ago (fully assuming its not going to work because its 2 years old). Its the fastest thing ive seen fully inoculate a jar of rye
Wow, you just answered a question I had in mind, how long do liquid cultures stay good for? Because I'm a new home grower and I don't see myself finishing a jar anytime soon
I have been trying to get an answer on storage 2 years is incredibly long.
@@Al_i8 I have a 8-9 year old jar in the fridge that's still viable.
I am obsessed with your content. I’ve been binge watching and will definitely be using your codes when ordering supplies. Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge you’ve gained!
Yay! Thank you!
Me too Rachel! I love it. Its nice to see another female learning.
@@TheException2therule but you're a traaanneeeee
Love it! I have been using LC from the beginning - keep spreading the knowledge MUSHLOVE
What is LC?
@@hohohori1026 Liquid Culture
Same, flame sterilize and inject through micropore works wonders.
Thank you for starting this series on LC. I have been struggling trying to get good results. Your channel is inspirational! Keep up the good work
Hey Andrew just wanted to drop you a line thanks for the inspiration that you can get mushrooms off the ground with a small budget and supporting us smaller guys. Im in Australia and its hard to touch base with people via social media. Keep up the great work mate.
Cheers.
I'm new to this, well not absolutely new I was growing cubes 15 plus years ago but that's water under the bridge now, I've started a few strains of oysters, reishi, and straphoria. I just wanted to let you know how awesome it is to have help/ that community you were talking about, your invaluable
I really appreciate you spreading your knowledge and growing the network. I’ll buy from you and use your codes.
Thank you for all the hard work and revealing of so much vital information for us myco-enthusiast! The information is priceless! I am going to try honey spring water culture recipe next! If you could reveal your liquid culture recipe sometime that would be awesome! 🍄
You seem so friggin kind and intellectual... & Thank you for this knowledge I didn't know I needed.
You're beautiful x
Radical Mycology is the best book ever written for fungi lovers. Just got my copy last week and I'm blown away. Great on the video about what to do about spent spawn. You keep it real.
lenny is a rock star!! He’s helped me soooo much.
He is fantastic!
Thats awesome! Excited for you and what youre learning.
Your Peptone additive was rockin now I’m playing with oats thanks to you 👍🏼💯
Thank you for being honest and unconditionally helpful. It is noticed and humbly appreciated.
but make your own lids bc you make more from making than schilling
Thanks for your honesty and sharing.
Oh i started before i saw this video. It's amazing! A great way to accelerating the whole process!
Love your attitude mate. Thank you for your content.
You're so helpful. Thanks for another helpful video. Keep going!
Thank you for the drop on shroom supply great find!
Hey Andrew! Just like many other folks here I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your videos and your commitment to helping the little guys get off on their feet!
I am a super small (like literally out of my kitchen and a makeshift lab space) local spawn producer for local hobby growers in Manitoba (so hey from Canada!) and am going to be introducing ready-to-fruit kits this year. I have been using LC just like you and only occasionally use agar for testing purity etc. and capturing wild strains.
I also order from Lenny, and can attest to how awesome his cultures are. I even got a hold of your Blue King and Black Pearl King oyster through him, and although I have yet to grow them out to fruiting stage I am really looking forward to it.
The mushroom growing community is a small one but we certainly are closely knit. Funny how we are simply emulating the creatures we work with, eh? You are an inspiration and a gentleman. Keep on keep’n on!
Hey
Hey man your awesomeness moves me keep it up you should focus more on youtube vids it will become a big part of your business when it comes to people seeing your products plus if you update us once a week show us your process and progress and show off those mushies we want to see what we are buying i know i do at least im sure your channel will blow up the more you post brother i hope you have a good day man always always think about what you can do next you should post vids just to update us on your supply what you have to offer and whats coming next and show us the fruits of your labors keep them coming my brother
Mush love
Lenny deserves all the success in the world.
Superb technique 🤟🏽
Hello from Brazil. Teach is the best way to learn. Thanks a lot.
This is freakin' awesome! I've got my first two spawn coming to me tomorrow to grow in buckets, and then later I'm excited to buy some liquid culture.
I'm in west Tennessee and I'm hoping to get big enough to supply everyone who asks me for mushrooms. It's impossible to keep up. I'm amazed daily.
I just ordered and used your code, you rock bro.
Sweet lids, I just gonna order some to try out! Thanks for the idea
They're easy to make.
Knowledge is nothing until it’s shared
Funny! I came to the same conclusions .So many ways of doing things ,but the liquid method just make so much more sense to me.I only started this stuff recently but I am already hooked .
It is fantastic!
I will definitely be ordering from you
Hey Andrew! Firstly, I absolutely love this channel and you guys! Thanks so much for sharing. Noticed your website is looking great as well! Do you guys ship to the UK? I'd love to be able to buy some spawn and also some supplies from places like Shroom Supply - however they don't sell to the UK. Maybe there is a business opportunity to resell some of their stock to ship Internationally etc? I'm not quite ready to start growing myself yet - but hopefully soon!Thanks again brother!
Another banger vid 🙏🔥👊
Dude! You Rock!
Good stuff. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Thank you very much. I've been trying to help family and friends I've found that turkey tail mycelium has amazing properties I haven't sold anything yet I've just been giving stuff away. Thank you
Awesome to hear!
Man saw your first video. Was discouraged to use LC. Now it’s on. Gonna go this route to make spawn.
Lenny is the freaking best, for real!
Good stuff!
When using those lids fill your jars 90%
50% fill is to keep polyfill from getting wet. You can increase your production by 50%
I just started growing lions mane about 2 months ago. And it has been small, successful so far and was explaining to my wife. I just made my first batch of LC and will be doing a tissue sample w syringe. Anyways. Master slants replenish agar plates. Agar plates replenish liquid culture. Liquid culture inoculated grain spawn. Grain spawn inoculates and grows the substrate. At least this makes sense to me. But like I said. I’m an absolute novice.
Thank you so much for your inspirational videos! One quick question... Do you add peptone to the mix?
Just subscribed.. like your content.
Hi Andrew! Thank you for the awesome video! I've been working on my garden a lot and see that there are many micorizal products out there, none of them fruit edible mushrooms as far as I can see. I believe there's a market for edible mushroom micorizal additions to the landscape; i know that there is no guarantee anything like a chanterelle or porcini is going to sprout, but on the same note, these other strains of mycorrhizae commercialy sold do not come with the promise of fruiting either. As a person with a yard, I'd much rather invest in mycorrhizae that come with even a chance(even if low) of fruiting something edible vs using mycorrhizae that will certainly never provide me edible mushrooms. I'd rather invest in the chance for edibles (even if it takes 15 years lol) over a product that will 'never' yield edible mushrooms. I know a lot of commercial mycorrhizae has shown to help crops, but there are many other ways of composting, feeding, placing crops to maximize yield. At the end of the day, I'd hands down buy an edible fruiting mycorrhizae product (w only chance) over mycorrhizae that will never yield edible mushrooms. Any ideas videos? Diy? Sellers? I know long question. Thx🙂.
nice job man, I'm starting a little farm and your videos are beyond helpful. question: once your liquid culture is ready after the 10 days in the jar do you just take the liquid and squirt it onto your grain spawn? about how many blocks do you get from a jar of liquid culture? Thanks!
Hi Andrew! Love your content. I've always been curious about commercial scale as well as hobby scale.. what kind of operational records do you keep (Non financial)? What kind of data do you find valuable to record and keep?
Cheers.
Love LC. Would love to see a video on how you test your cultures for contamination. I also wondered if putting hydrogen peroxide into a possibly contaminated jar would kill contamination?
if i do RTV, I like the clear. I can see where the needdle goes with the clear. Also, the clear is still acceptable with the heat of a PC. Red prohibits you from seeing where the needle goes and is overkill with the heat resistant term used. Just a personel preference.
Absolutely I started out with liquid culture it was a good way to get going without more expensive equipment like a flow hood
Making a lot of sense here, nice!
Thanks!
Thanks 🙏
Thanks
I haven't used LC too much, but I found my agar grows a lot faster and more consistency among all my different jars. Then again I made my culture from spores and don't know if I got contams in it. Maybe I'd have better luck with an LC inoculated with agar.
i have so many video watch to culture mushroom i pretty amaze to your gear used on how to make or culture in safe that not contaminate the mushroom. i have plan to also use the way you do.what can you advance with me on how to grow mushroom.thank you
Hey buddy john Bonacci here in south jersey, I want to thank you for all of your personal knowledge and helping me. Hope we can get in touch.
im 100% about mushrooms. loking to start a grow in so cal
Is there any way you can make a video on how to make LC, the dos and donts... btw your videos are great,
Thanks for video, How do you call that Green torcher at the end of?
First off Lenny is a badass. His normal lions mane strain would explode from the bag with such aggressive fruiting. I just got his commercial strain and i cant wait to start fruiting it! So, my question: if you were going to innoculate a 5# bag of grain with just liquid culture would you and how much?? Ive done it a few times and i put 60ccs per bag. They colonized great, but i need a hepa filter when i colonize from the grain bags to sawdust my contam rate tripled due to grains being exposed for so long.
Cool video, could this liquid culture be added straight to compost to grow mushrooms? Thank you.
Awesome video, and thanks for the links and i'll use MOSSY when ordering from the Emporium. Question, when drawing the liquid innoculum out do you always use the cloudy parts only or will the clear part of the liquid work as well? Thanks :-)
Ordered 5 syringes and got hooked up on their monthly special being sent to me every month. Thanks Bro, i'll tell Lenny that you sent me :-)
Yeah that's where I am.
Hey so I learned a nifty trick watching another UA-cam video recently, I just wanted to share it... I know I'm over a year late on this video, but just found your content and love it. But basically, take syringe and pull up fresh non inoculated LC. Plunge the LC onto an agar plate, and then scrape small sections of agar with your needle to break it off the agar. Then just draw up the LC again with the syringe and sterilize and put back into the LC! (I think you sterilize in between every set, as long as flame doesn't hurt it--I've only done it once so far haha) But I thought I would share that in case you or someone else in the comments hadn't thought to do this!
WOW slow moment, I was listening to the video in the background not watching, and then just realized on the outro that that's exactly how you do it! Hahah. Man. I was just cutting chunks of agar and dropping them in my LC before, I think your method is way better :)
I pay $5 for my syringes. Seems right considering it costs next to nothing to make them & they work just as well as the more expensive ones.
I make liquid culture and test on agar if all goes well i deem it good to go!
Hail Thor!! Nice mjolnir!!
Love the thors hammer. Mine got lost in a fire.
They don't want to tell you that any mushroom stalks can be used to make liquid mycelium you just need to grind them up in a luquidizer then add your sugars and use this mix to further produce more mix
This is an excellent recipe for contamination and probably the reason they don't want to tell you about it.
There are many videos out there showing proper mushroom culturing techniques. Find a good one and follow it to the letter.
A general question! How long do Mycelium jars usually last? Currently trying out 4% blue agave in a 600ml mason wide mouth
What is the shaker called please? Awesome information. I'll watch it again and again
That's a magnetic stirrer in the beaker.
How big is your basement? It seems like you are growing tons of mushrooms. Thanks for the info
Cool. I love to see if you can go straight to wood/soy pellets bags with that stuff ???? I'd think skipping grain spawn would be a huge plus.
Paul Stammets mentioned in growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms that people do it successfully, with the main issue being the tendency to pool at the bottom of the bag or jar. May have to adjust moisture content in your substrate and be careful about shaking well enough.
Hi!!! I`ve been working with LC to inoculate grain. Is there any way to transfer LC directly to woodchip o sawdust? I`m working only with ganoderma. Thanks!!!
How're you liking that stir plate? I saw on amazon and almost grabbed it..What size bar are you using with it? Lenny is the man, he's given me so much advice. He'll always have my business!
Did you ever try this plate? The bad reviews kinda scare me
Do you get faster results when stirring? I usually keep my tissue still in the jar and it grows out to a little fuzzball in about 6 days
Hey Mossy Creek! I Really appreciate every video you make. They are my favorite of all mushroom videos on the internet!
I saw they have 3 inch long needles on shroom supply, is that what you use to pull the liquid culture out of the jar? It’s okay if you don’t wanna give away all of your secrets
Needle only needs to be long enough to penetrate the injection port. Standard 16 ga. need look e is about 1-1/2" long. That's plenty!
@@georgekatsinis5224 haha, looking back its pretty silly I asked this question. Ive switched over to using LC regularly, and have learned an entire world of skills. Plus he's put out those videos on how to make the lids that really helped refine that process. But yeah, better late than never haha
It's not Rocket Surgery.
I did my first grain jar inoculations last night. Stuck myself with a needle.
I hope it was the King Oyster mushrooms. "I'm KING OF THE FUN-GUYS!".... but it might be the PINK Oyster mushrooms now reproducing in my bloodstream.
Any Super-Hero is still a Super-Hero.
Hey ya, i have a questioan about your pellets (nothing to do with this vid, asking here because this is the most recent one so more likely for you to see). Do you use soft wood pellets, or only hard wood pellets? Have you ever tried both and noticed a difference? Thanks.
I have tub of oysters I started from the store. When I harvest I will make sporeprints to liquid culture, I wont have to buy oyster mushrooms again. 👍
You will need to go through agar first. It will be covered in contamination. Do as many transfers of the strongest mycelium as it takes to get a clean culture. Then go to liquid. Spore to LC is spore + 100 other nasty things to LC
@@masteringaquaponics4129 sterile tissue biopsy to LC, but you are welcome to do all the other step if that is what is getting you clean smaples
Hey, thanks for great vid. Well I got super tiny operation (3 grow bags of oyster) in my small flat. Liquid culture looks really awesome, but I don´t have laminar flowhood, only still air box (not 100% sterile right) so I don´t think it´s good for me, cos I can´t imagine super safe process of making it without risk of contamination - I will find out if it´s contaminated after inoculation which is too late for me... :/ (on agar I can see in 2D healthy colony that I can isolate..).
Andrew, what are all the symbols on your doors and petri dishes? Old Norse blessings? :)
$6.99 for 1 regular mouth plastic lid with an injection port and syringe filter? You can make them out of the heavy Mason brand PP5 lids for way less than that. I bailed on metal lids after my first LC batch and found the plastic easier to work with in addition to being rust free.
Can you inject liquid mycelium culture directly in fruiting substrate avoiding the grain process and if that's not possible how about putting grain in the top of the fruiting bag and just let it colonize the grain at the top of the bag and then spread to the fruiting substrate????????
What volume liquid culture to weight of grain bag do you typically use?
Is the heating element for the stirrer necessary or could you settle with just the stirring part?
I'd like to buy the book but it's not available on Amazon and it seems the website doesn't ship to Germany...
How long can liquid culture be in the jar? And where do you keep yours jar, in fridge? For how long?
Once your LC jar is fully colonized, how can you keep it alive or preserve it?
Hey what temp do you grow your king trumpets in?
Is the media the same as making nata de coco?
Meyers mushrooms likes to share good info!
how long can you hold your culture , and can you make it go dormant and come back?
Made a GT agar slurry added lithium carbonate/boron/mag/calc & honey to 3 gallons of water lmao it blew up. Got gallons of mycelium . Used it to hydrate coco/Verm substrate mix with grain spawn 🤣 will update in a day if anyone cares how it goes still got 2+ gallons of liquid mycelium from only like 9 days of waiting. I figured the liquid minerals will feed the mushrooms really well plus a pint of corn grain spawn it should be insane
the liquid in the jars what do you get it from?
Regards from sweden
So, can you take the liquid culture and expand it into other jars?
how long can one keep a master liquid culture for viable commercial production?