That's the scary thing. He did take manual control and missed their planned spot in reality. But never crashed or had any issues in the show. It's still so plausible.
I have just watch The First Man, I found that mr Armstrong & wife lost one daughter, and they were portrayed not losing courage of what they do for american spaceflight. Thats must be tough.
Going into manual mode (P66) to land was planned for, the only unknown was the fact they were already "long", i.e. were going to overfly the proposed landing site (made worse by the 1201 and 1202 alarms distracting both Armstrong and Aldrin).
It’s genius because the framing of the show would make Apollo 11’s landing feel less than what it was in this world, but by faking a crash and revealing they’re okey we get that feeling of success and accomplishment we got when the real Apollo landed safely.
@@curiousgemini actually no, it didn’t. It’s true they almost ran out of fuel, but if that had happened they would have just separated the LM ascent stage from the descent stage and returned to orbit.
In real life, Armstrong landed incredibly delicately. In each LEM leg there was 36 inches of aluminum honeycomb meant to crush in the landing to soften it, as springs would just bounce the lander up which isn't good in the low gravity. Armstrong, however, only used 9 inches of the honeycomb in the front two legs, which meant there was a giant gap between the foot of the ladder and the ground. You hear him comment on it before he steps onto the lunar surface.
I love when you see Apollo 11 training they get a 1202 alarm and have to decide whether this alarm will abort the landing, it does but Margot knows it didn’t have to abort. In real life during the real lunar descent Apollo 11 got a 1202 alarm and someone (a very important someone around whom history bent) figured out in time that it wasn’t an abort alarm. I love how this is written by nasa geeks and they slide in references in a way that implies they assume you know your nasa history or you just won’t get it and it’s not a big deal anyways. Little Easter eggs for nasa geeks.
This show is not an attempt to undermine their achievements. This series takes a look at the Cold Wars' impact on the space race and theorizes what may have happened if the Soviets landed a man and woman on the moon before the US. It's well done and takes explicit liberties knowing what we know today. Remember, we were very close to losing the space race. They were far ahead of what we were doing at one time. This series focuses on the competition to not only get to the moon but colonize and militarize it as a base of operation. S1 was excellent, and S2 will certainly take it up a notch.
3:10 The red haired dude with the glasses, I think that’s the same medical flight tech who in Apollo 13 said “oh Christ flight, now we’re losing all three of them!“ This was the scene where Armstrong and Fred Hayes in Jack Swigert takeoff their biomed transmitter’s And all of their sensor readings drop off back at Mission control
Are you talking about the actual surgeon from Apollo 13 or the actor who played him? Because the actor was Christian Clemmenson and he’s never been in this show. You can see him as a regular in Boston Legal also played a lawyer in the people vs OJ Simpson, he was the prosecutor who had a heart attack in court.
I remember watching this late in the evening on July 20, 1969 on a TV set up in the banquet room of the Hotel Excelsior in Dubrovnik Yugoslavia. As soon as they were down and safe we went to get some sleep but the walk was moved up so we arrived about the time Buzz climbed down to the surface. At the time I didn't respect just how incredible it was that the tv signal could go from the Moon to Australia to the US and then to Europe. Just the US-Europe part took something like 10 satellites! Plus I was in a communist country as well! Glad it all went well in reality! By the way Buzz is now a friend of a friend and I hope someday to meet him in person.
So we were all left staring at the screen and thinking "Did Neal eat a rock???!" Love this show. Ever since the second Transformers movie opening part, I wanted a good scifi show with the adventures of the US Astronaut Corps.
@@gromblereal My grandfather was placed with a group in charge of jamming any potential Soviet signals that could target Apollo 11 and disrupt the mission. Top secret until after the fall of the Soviet Union.
The moon they showed from earth was in the wrong phase. On that day, July 20th 1969, the moon was lit from the right and only a third was lit...not this almost full moon we see in the video clip.
@@jondrew55 on a scale of 1 to 10… That’s about 1000. I’m lucky I figured out what phase the moon was in let alone understand what you know. If you’d like to point me to a book or to a website that explains it… I’ll watch it tonight. Thanks.
@@harrisongould9460 I think a good start would be to watch "GrownUps2". Once you've mastered that you can move to advanced material like "The Interview"
Its for audience experience. With real screen, audience wouldn't be able to realize it actually means "no signal", replacing it with big "no signal" is easier for audience to comprehend. During production they definitely experimented with different displays, usually big "no signal" is the way to go.
Alt - history isn't revisionist because it's not trying to change anything. Just telling a story inspired by real life, like man in the high castle or countless other "what if" scenarios
I realize that this scene was done for dramatic effect, but in reality the Apollo astronauts would never had continued with such an uncontrolled decent featuring such dramatic moves of the spacecraft
This doesn't really make any sense, in reality the LEM overshot the landing zone due to the umbilical not being completely vented before separation, that extra atmosphere pushed the LEM during undocking, the amount was tiny but the magnitude increased as the LEM journeyed to the surface, the computer also overloaded due to a error by the pilots, meaning Armstrong had to take manual control and land with data from the computer, he eye balled it, here we're seeing what would happen if they didn't overshoot their landing zone, they would have however had enough altitude to adjust and move to a safer site, why they continued to descend knowing the landing zone wasn't viable shows the flaw in this show, everyone is a idiot!
The Moon phase shown during the Mexican night sequence was a fat gibbous, nearly full. This is such a common error in films and TV shows. It was really a fat crescent, a couple days before first quarter. Another error: The rather rough lunar surface around the landing site. In reality the area was chosen as about the most boringly flat that could be found, for safety. The boulder field Armstrong manually flew over was related to a pretty shallow crater, not covering much area, and of no 'scary' appearance like this. Another error: The flight path of all Apollo landings had the Sun exactly behind the LEM's trajectory, so that it flew directly toward its own shadow. Here we see the Sun shining from the right front quarter. Another error: The rather pronounced gyrations of the vehicle, as represented by the turning about of the scenery outside the windows. The flight profile did not permit any real amount of maneuvering either side of the ground track, with notable oscillation in order to translate left or right. If things were that bad, the crew would have aborted, dropping the lower stage and heading right back up orbit. This alternate history version should not permit such a grotesque misrepresentation of these and other elements of the mission.
@Pew my pieThe Apollo missions we're the greatest achievements in human history. This 💩 was based on an alternate history that never happened. Just my opinion dude.
@Pew my pie maybe you misunderstood what I said.. the Apollo missions happened. This movie or mini-series was based on fiction, there were no Russians involved, the Apollo 11 lunar lander never crashed. Can we at least agree that the Apollo missions were some of the greatest human achievements ever ?
Apollo most definitely is humanity's greatest achievement. But it doesn't allow us to imagine what could hsppen if they were achieved by russian. And in the show, the protagonist are America, and they achieve feats much greater than apollo such as a lunsr base. If anything the show represents how America would still be victorious in the space race no mater if they landed first.
@@richardm4617It was very well produced, the story line however was focused more on illegal immigrants, feminism, equal rights for gays, the ERA amendment, the greatness of Russia/Marxism, the evils of America/capitalism, and pretty much painted the actual astronauts as childish, spoiled, misogynistic jerks! The thing is, I'm not even that conservative - it just really ruined the story - they literally leave what was happening on the moon to show you the perfect illegal alien dad cooking his kids' dinner while the perfectly-behaved daughter studies hard Such great people! Obviously, THEY deserve to be the astronauts. (stay tuned for season two!) Ronald D Moore's best liberal-agenda rubbish - this is the kind of stuff Hollywood approves these days. Anyone with a couple of brain cells knows things are never this black and white... Stay tuned for season two - the illegal-immigrant girl will have grown up, join the NASA program & and land on Mars - you heard it here first!
@@georgedixon9863 You talk like those are meant to be mutually exclusive. While yes, the show has a blatantly obvious social agenda, isn't that the point? The secondary development alongside the alternate history the show is going for focuses on the social ramifications of this branched timeline, and personally I think it's done really well compared to the other shit Hollywood has pumped out in the name of a half-assed diversity agenda. But that's not to say social agendas are inherently bad in media, they can be done well. Also the show pays respect to the ACTUAL astronauts it portrays in the show, I mean did you honestly believe that Ed Baldwin and Gordo Stevens were real people, let alone the prime crew of Apollo 10? Even with them they aren't necessarily painted as "childish, spoiled, misogynistic jerks", I think you're just missing out on the nuance of their characters.
Cut the strawman bullshit. Liberals don’t love the Soviet Union any more than conservatives love Nazi Germany. Which is to say, yeah, a few of them do. But they’re nutbars who deserve to be ignored, not representative of the whole.
@@alexanderwinn9407 Are you kidding? Conservatives happily fought the Nazis in WWII. Did liberals happily fight the Cold War? Did they? Liberals mocked Reagan's military build up. They wanted to "talk" to the Russians, and stop all the "silly name calling", as McGovern called it. Liberals loved hurling the epithet (in their minds) "cold warrior" at conservatives. Liberals mocked Solzhentizyn, and were in an uproar over Robert Conquest's description of the USSR. They defended Alger Hiss to their last breath, and put the so-called 'Hollywood 10' on a pedestal precisely because they were communist. You must be too young to remember all that.
@@alexanderwinn9407 Tony is right. A large portion of the American population believed the USSR were the good guys and the USA the bad guys. It wasn't just a fringe. I'm old enough to remember. And the situation was worse in the time I'm not old enough to remember. Heck, Bernie Sanders - a not fringe figures - is one still living and important example of the type that loved the Soviet Union and defended it.
@@tonydean6684 Regan pulled museum battleships out of reserve and stuck tomahawk missiles on them better suited to actual modern warships. Most of them had critical systems barely operational because they were literal antiques
For all mankind....my rear end. It's for all those exorbitantly paid engineers and companies who supply the hardware. Beyond that there is no purpose at all to space travel. There is nothing "out there" that cannot be found here on earth at least a million times more cheaply. No one is going to "live" on any other planet. None has a breathable atmosphere or usable water. The entire space program is an exercise in futility at enormous cost. The idea you can ferry enough materiel to another planet to create a livable environment for more than a handful of humans is nonsense. Rockets leaving earth's gravity have to be, of necessity, 99%+ fuel leaving virtually no payload capability. Everything you need has to be supplied by rockets that can carry only tiny payloads and each rocket costs multiple billions. Not only that but rockets carrying supplies to other planets need tons of fuel to make soft landings on those other planets. I should have said rockets carrying supplies to other planets must of necessity consist of 99.99999999999%+ of fuel. And there is no fuel to be found on other planets.
There are two primary purposes to all space travel, in my opinion: 1. Discover some cool shit that can benefit ourselves here on Earth 2. Find ways to populate other planets once Earth becomes an unviable option, which it eventually will.
@@mariasirona1622 This falls under my second point about finding ways to populate other planets. Although, the technology is pretty much impossible right now, and even if it were, the process would take hundreds if not thousands of years.
I’ve enjoyed this programme, unfortunately it’s just feminist and Blm propaganda, won’t stop me from watching the rest of it, it’s good work, pity about the lefty loony rhetoric.
How is it. The most Republican thing is forcing women and black people in just to look good. Democrats include them from the start because their also people, that can do as good as white men. (not to discredit white men themselves they've done geeat things in space, i myself am a white man incase your wondering) grow up.
What I am about to say is propably the least important aspect of this scene, but those shot pours were about half of an ounce. As a bartender, that bothered me lol.
Armstrong did admit that he was winging in it after they missed the first proposed landing spot. An excellent pilot never the less.
That's the scary thing. He did take manual control and missed their planned spot in reality. But never crashed or had any issues in the show. It's still so plausible.
I have just watch The First Man, I found that mr Armstrong & wife lost one daughter, and they were portrayed not losing courage of what they do for american spaceflight. Thats must be tough.
Going into manual mode (P66) to land was planned for, the only unknown was the fact they were already "long", i.e. were going to overfly the proposed landing site (made worse by the 1201 and 1202 alarms distracting both Armstrong and Aldrin).
I agree, he was an excellent pilot. And I severely doubt he'd have crash landed Apollo 11 in any Universe.
@@mrkeogh
P66 was the hybrid mode, where the CDR controls the pitch and yaw, and the computer controls the throttle. P67 was full manual mode.
First time I’ve seen this episode I thought holy crap did they just kill off Apollo 11! But this was a fantastic twist when they turn out to be fine
Spoilers !
It’s genius because the framing of the show would make Apollo 11’s landing feel less than what it was in this world, but by faking a crash and revealing they’re okey we get that feeling of success and accomplishment we got when the real Apollo landed safely.
This almost happened for real.
You mean the landing or almost crashing?
@@semihaslan7918 Almost crashing
@@curiousgemini actually no, it didn’t. It’s true they almost ran out of fuel, but if that had happened they would have just separated the LM ascent stage from the descent stage and returned to orbit.
@@Shadowkey392 true but also the chances of the abort failing too is high
@@Shadowkey392 they literally had 10 seconds of fuel left. The intuition shown by astronaut armstrong is amazing !
In real life, Armstrong landed incredibly delicately. In each LEM leg there was 36 inches of aluminum honeycomb meant to crush in the landing to soften it, as springs would just bounce the lander up which isn't good in the low gravity. Armstrong, however, only used 9 inches of the honeycomb in the front two legs, which meant there was a giant gap between the foot of the ladder and the ground. You hear him comment on it before he steps onto the lunar surface.
I love when you see Apollo 11 training they get a 1202 alarm and have to decide whether this alarm will abort the landing, it does but Margot knows it didn’t have to abort.
In real life during the real lunar descent Apollo 11 got a 1202 alarm and someone (a very important someone around whom history bent) figured out in time that it wasn’t an abort alarm.
I love how this is written by nasa geeks and they slide in references in a way that implies they assume you know your nasa history or you just won’t get it and it’s not a big deal anyways.
Little Easter eggs for nasa geeks.
when you fail in kerbal space program
They survived the landing, that's a resounding success by KSP standards.
This show is not an attempt to undermine their achievements. This series takes a look at the Cold Wars' impact on the space race and theorizes what may have happened if the Soviets landed a man and woman on the moon before the US. It's well done and takes explicit liberties knowing what we know today. Remember, we were very close to losing the space race. They were far ahead of what we were doing at one time. This series focuses on the competition to not only get to the moon but colonize and militarize it as a base of operation. S1 was excellent, and S2 will certainly take it up a notch.
Another happy landing
*First Man soundtrack intensifies*
wich one?
@@JK-zk1sr probably The Landing
@@admiralsand ty m8
3:10 The red haired dude with the glasses, I think that’s the same medical flight tech who in Apollo 13 said “oh Christ flight, now we’re losing all three of them!“ This was the scene where Armstrong and Fred Hayes in Jack Swigert takeoff their biomed transmitter’s And all of their sensor readings drop off back at Mission control
Lovell, not Armstrong.
Lovell. Armstrong quit NASA after Apollo 11.
@@pranavarvind4281 yeah didnt he retire? Because he actually was part of the Columbia Investigation Program in 2003
Are you talking about the actual surgeon from Apollo 13 or the actor who played him?
Because the actor was Christian Clemmenson and he’s never been in this show.
You can see him as a regular in Boston Legal also played a lawyer in the people vs OJ Simpson, he was the prosecutor who had a heart attack in court.
Damnit Mechjeb...
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Just reload the quicksave.
I am absolutely hooked on this show and only on the first episode. I had to rewind 0:59 like 10x while watching this.
I remember watching this late in the evening on July 20, 1969 on a TV set up in the banquet room of the Hotel Excelsior in Dubrovnik Yugoslavia. As soon as they were down and safe we went to get some sleep but the walk was moved up so we arrived about the time Buzz climbed down to the surface. At the time I didn't respect just how incredible it was that the tv signal could go from the Moon to Australia to the US and then to Europe. Just the US-Europe part took something like 10 satellites! Plus I was in a communist country as well! Glad it all went well in reality! By the way Buzz is now a friend of a friend and I hope someday to meet him in person.
So we were all left staring at the screen and thinking "Did Neal eat a rock???!" Love this show. Ever since the second Transformers movie opening part, I wanted a good scifi show with the adventures of the US Astronaut Corps.
Niel
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my first mun landing in kerbal space program
This show mixes in reality and actual people in this revised history of the space race.
no shit
That's the point.
Kind of an Interstellar vibe going on here 🤔🍿🥤
0:59 is my favourite shot of the entire show.
This show peaked at its 1st season. The alternate space race history was fantastic. After that it started getting weird.
Yeah, like filling the rest of the drink with water.
+++
I feel the same… I think that the 1960s/70s makes for a far more interesting setting than the 80s or 90s.
Such a good show.
Any landing y can walk away is a good landing
Unless your on the moon
They sure as hell weren’t using feet and inches in that operation...
There are countries that use the metric system and those that landed on the moon. Uh oh
Stuart Bear except the US and UK both use the metric system for scientific and military purposes, you bloody idiot 😂
@@stuartbear922 And the guidance system used metric internally and only used imperial for readouts....
Oh yes they were but internally it was all in metric.
@@KayoMichiels You're quite right it seems. Interesting historical detail...
ukma.org.uk/why-metric/myths/metric-internationally/the-moon-landings/
Is there any TRIVAGO HOTELS UP THERE ON MOON
I was hoping to see Jim lovell actually say "Come on neil its not to long to abort"
(Jim wanted to be on 11 he went on apollo 13 tho)
Man, jim wa unlucky
?????????
A bunch of guys turned blue
Any landing you can walk away from.....
ksp mun landing experience
This almost happened, but my grandpa, [on god, no lie.], saved the entire operation with a few button presses or so.
His name was jack garman. Look it up.
@@gromblereal My grandfather was placed with a group in charge of jamming any potential Soviet signals that could target Apollo 11 and disrupt the mission. Top secret until after the fall of the Soviet Union.
@@darthrevan2961 oh my god no way
@@gromblereal Yep, Doris Burch. Cool guy.
Why havent we returned to the moon?
It's amazing to think those two were real people doing that
At least he apologized :')
I'm still upset about the video resolution..
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More vids please
Literally me landing in ksp
In couple years it will be Mars
2:46 Chris Kohls AKA Mr. Reagan. I see you haven't been canceled Yet, brother! (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ
Can I watch this, without having Appletv?
edmond e I don’t think so. It is a tv show.
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GET THE COCAINE OUT OF THE EDITORS SUITE!
The moon they showed from earth was in the wrong phase. On that day, July 20th 1969, the moon was lit from the right and only a third was lit...not this almost full moon we see in the video clip.
That's the least of this bullshit show's problems
Now that’s funny...goes to show how little I really know.
@@harrisongould9460 I know plenty . Brian Williams and I were in Mission Control at the time
@@jondrew55 on a scale of 1 to 10… That’s about 1000. I’m lucky I figured out what phase the moon was in let alone understand what you know. If you’d like to point me to a book or to a website that explains it… I’ll watch it tonight. Thanks.
@@harrisongould9460 I think a good start would be to watch "GrownUps2". Once you've mastered that you can move to advanced material like "The Interview"
I mean they were the first people on the moon but for all mankind the ussr are the first man on the moon the usa the first usa men on the moon
hey, good point there!
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No, it doesnt "crash" on the moon.
The monitors going to "No signal" would not have happened. Just sayin.
Yeah. That was way beyond stupid.
Its for audience experience. With real screen, audience wouldn't be able to realize it actually means "no signal", replacing it with big "no signal" is easier for audience to comprehend.
During production they definitely experimented with different displays, usually big "no signal" is the way to go.
Chuck Norris . . . . .
. . . . . . Chuck who ? . . . . . . Neil Armstrong landed on the Moon .
Stopped at this one. Traffic pimp
How are you supposed to abort with 2% fuel left?
You drop the lander base with the descent engine and fire up the ascent engine on the upper stage. That engine is fully fueled.
Actually that never happend
Wirk
Next revisionist tv series "Losing Private Ryan"
LOL, I know right? 😂
Alt - history isn't revisionist because it's not trying to change anything. Just telling a story inspired by real life, like man in the high castle or countless other "what if" scenarios
I realize that this scene was done for dramatic effect, but in reality the Apollo astronauts would never had continued with such an uncontrolled decent featuring such dramatic moves of the spacecraft
This is alt history, russia had already landed on the moon at this point and these men were willing to die trying to prove they could do it too.
Watch the show. It's really good.
@@woolfoma bingo
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I hope my generation gets this when SpaceX lands on mars
This doesn't really make any sense, in reality the LEM overshot the landing zone due to the umbilical not being completely vented before separation, that extra atmosphere pushed the LEM during undocking, the amount was tiny but the magnitude increased as the LEM journeyed to the surface, the computer also overloaded due to a error by the pilots, meaning Armstrong had to take manual control and land with data from the computer, he eye balled it, here we're seeing what would happen if they didn't overshoot their landing zone, they would have however had enough altitude to adjust and move to a safer site, why they continued to descend knowing the landing zone wasn't viable shows the flaw in this show, everyone is a idiot!
calm down
The Moon phase shown during the Mexican night sequence was a fat gibbous, nearly full. This is such a common error in films and TV shows. It was really a fat crescent, a couple days before first quarter.
Another error: The rather rough lunar surface around the landing site. In reality the area was chosen as about the most boringly flat that could be found, for safety. The boulder field Armstrong manually flew over was related to a pretty shallow crater, not covering much area, and of no 'scary' appearance like this.
Another error: The flight path of all Apollo landings had the Sun exactly behind the LEM's trajectory, so that it flew directly toward its own shadow. Here we see the Sun shining from the right front quarter.
Another error: The rather pronounced gyrations of the vehicle, as represented by the turning about of the scenery outside the windows. The flight profile did not permit any real amount of maneuvering either side of the ground track, with notable oscillation in order to translate left or right. If things were that bad, the crew would have aborted, dropping the lower stage and heading right back up orbit.
This alternate history version should not permit such a grotesque misrepresentation of these and other elements of the mission.
they also crashed
Sometimes the visuals take priority the technical accuracy. Sometimes.
Im so happy to have someone in these comments Make an actual critic and not just "cOmMiE pRoPaGaNdA" or "SjW cUz BlAcK AsTrOnAuT"
It’s a fucking tv-show, not some scientific reimagination.
Fortunately, this is a drama, not a documentary.
xd
CHINA2024 don´t found any evidence of NASA moon landing ;big liars 😂😂
With all those wonderful, all knowing women to save the program how could anything have gone wrong?
Bless your heart.
Another failure from Hollywood
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@Pew my pieThe Apollo missions we're the greatest achievements in human history. This 💩 was based on an alternate history that never happened. Just my opinion dude.
@Pew my pie maybe you misunderstood what I said.. the Apollo missions happened. This movie or mini-series was based on fiction, there were no Russians involved, the Apollo 11 lunar lander never crashed. Can we at least agree that the Apollo missions were some of the greatest human achievements ever ?
Apollo most definitely is humanity's greatest achievement. But it doesn't allow us to imagine what could hsppen if they were achieved by russian. And in the show, the protagonist are America, and they achieve feats much greater than apollo such as a lunsr base. If anything the show represents how America would still be victorious in the space race no mater if they landed first.
@@jeffh643 do you know what alternative history is?
no signal. biden is crashed
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Too bad this series was more focused on a social agenda than good story telling!
What does this mean? I haven’t watched it yet so genuinely interested to know what you think.
@@richardm4617It was very well produced, the story line however was focused more on illegal immigrants, feminism, equal rights for gays, the ERA amendment, the greatness of Russia/Marxism, the evils of America/capitalism, and pretty much painted the actual astronauts as childish, spoiled, misogynistic jerks! The thing is, I'm not even that conservative - it just really ruined the story - they literally leave what was happening on the moon to show you the perfect illegal alien dad cooking his kids' dinner while the perfectly-behaved daughter studies hard Such great people! Obviously, THEY deserve to be the astronauts. (stay tuned for season two!) Ronald D Moore's best liberal-agenda rubbish - this is the kind of stuff Hollywood approves these days. Anyone with a couple of brain cells knows things are never this black and white... Stay tuned for season two - the illegal-immigrant girl will have grown up, join the NASA program & and land on Mars - you heard it here first!
@@georgedixon9863 You talk like those are meant to be mutually exclusive. While yes, the show has a blatantly obvious social agenda, isn't that the point? The secondary development alongside the alternate history the show is going for focuses on the social ramifications of this branched timeline, and personally I think it's done really well compared to the other shit Hollywood has pumped out in the name of a half-assed diversity agenda. But that's not to say social agendas are inherently bad in media, they can be done well. Also the show pays respect to the ACTUAL astronauts it portrays in the show, I mean did you honestly believe that Ed Baldwin and Gordo Stevens were real people, let alone the prime crew of Apollo 10? Even with them they aren't necessarily painted as "childish, spoiled, misogynistic jerks", I think you're just missing out on the nuance of their characters.
@@jaydenzel8819 I find it tedious...
@@georgedixon9863 you're entirely welcome to think that, just goes to suggest that the show isn't for you
American liberals: "If only the good guys had won in real life. If only America had been put in its place. Imagine, comrade!".
Cut the strawman bullshit. Liberals don’t love the Soviet Union any more than conservatives love Nazi Germany.
Which is to say, yeah, a few of them do. But they’re nutbars who deserve to be ignored, not representative of the whole.
@@alexanderwinn9407 Are you kidding? Conservatives happily fought the Nazis in WWII. Did liberals happily fight the Cold War? Did they? Liberals mocked Reagan's military build up. They wanted to "talk" to the Russians, and stop all the "silly name calling", as McGovern called it. Liberals loved hurling the epithet (in their minds) "cold warrior" at conservatives. Liberals mocked Solzhentizyn, and were in an uproar over Robert Conquest's description of the USSR. They defended Alger Hiss to their last breath, and put the so-called 'Hollywood 10' on a pedestal precisely because they were communist. You must be too young to remember all that.
@@alexanderwinn9407 Tony is right. A large portion of the American population believed the USSR were the good guys and the USA the bad guys. It wasn't just a fringe. I'm old enough to remember. And the situation was worse in the time I'm not old enough to remember. Heck, Bernie Sanders - a not fringe figures - is one still living and important example of the type that loved the Soviet Union and defended it.
@@tonydean6684 Regan pulled museum battleships out of reserve and stuck tomahawk missiles on them better suited to actual modern warships. Most of them had critical systems barely operational because they were literal antiques
@@tonydean6684 in short, Regan was a joke and an actor that fooled you and half the country with his stage skills
For all mankind....my rear end. It's for all those exorbitantly paid engineers and companies who supply the hardware. Beyond that there is no purpose at all to space travel. There is nothing "out there" that cannot be found here on earth at least a million times more cheaply. No one is going to "live" on any other planet. None has a breathable atmosphere or usable water. The entire space program is an exercise in futility at enormous cost.
The idea you can ferry enough materiel to another planet to create a livable environment for more than a handful of humans is nonsense. Rockets leaving earth's gravity have to be, of necessity, 99%+ fuel leaving virtually no payload capability. Everything you need has to be supplied by rockets that can carry only tiny payloads and each rocket costs multiple billions. Not only that but rockets carrying supplies to other planets need tons of fuel to make soft landings on those other planets. I should have said rockets carrying supplies to other planets must of necessity consist of 99.99999999999%+ of fuel. And there is no fuel to be found on other planets.
There are two primary purposes to all space travel, in my opinion:
1. Discover some cool shit that can benefit ourselves here on Earth
2. Find ways to populate other planets once Earth becomes an unviable option, which it eventually will.
That is one of the most ignorant seething comment I've ever read.
Well, the planets do not have a breathable atmosphere or usable water yet, but have you heard or read about terraforming?
@@mariasirona1622 This falls under my second point about finding ways to populate other planets. Although, the technology is pretty much impossible right now, and even if it were, the process would take hundreds if not thousands of years.
There's no purpose at all to life. Yet, we go on living. We should go on exploring. Purpose is overrated.
I’ve enjoyed this programme, unfortunately it’s just feminist and Blm propaganda, won’t stop me from watching the rest of it, it’s good work, pity about the lefty loony rhetoric.
How is it. The most Republican thing is forcing women and black people in just to look good. Democrats include them from the start because their also people, that can do as good as white men. (not to discredit white men themselves they've done geeat things in space, i myself am a white man incase your wondering) grow up.
@Pew my pie him. I've seen you in the comments trying to correct people on the show. Nice to see someone else try to explain what alt history is.
Really. That's all you saw. I pity you.
So what you're saying is women is not equal and black lives do not matter?
What I am about to say is propably the least important aspect of this scene, but those shot pours were about half of an ounce. As a bartender, that bothered me lol.