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  • Опубліковано 9 гру 2022
  • Were there semi-auto handguns in the Old West?
    Also, a brief history on some early models.
    ***By the way, semi-auto can be pronounced Sem•eye or Sem•ee. Both are correct.
    Also, the Wild Bunch is set in 1913, prior to WWI. Sorry!***
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 944

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 Рік тому +488

    It always amazes me how much gun technology advanced in the 30 year stretch

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +73

      Right? A lot of failures that make really cool lookin' firearms.

    • @derfaschist9687
      @derfaschist9687 Рік тому +9

      New are just plastic made toys.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Рік тому +37

      @@derfaschist9687
      That shoot better.

    • @AgentXRifle
      @AgentXRifle Рік тому +5

      Hipoint would like to have a chat

    • @mdj.6179
      @mdj.6179 Рік тому +9

      It was the advancement of standard machining technology.

  • @dancortes3062
    @dancortes3062 Рік тому +235

    The Westerns set in the early 1900s are some of my favorites. It's cool because you know that whole way of life is about to mostly come to an end.

  • @ArizonaGhostriders
    @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +198

    By the way, semi-auto can be pronounced Sem•eye or Sem•ee. Both are correct.👍
    Also, the Wild Bunch is set in 1913, prior to WWI. Sorry!

  • @cielopachirisu929
    @cielopachirisu929 Рік тому +300

    At last!
    As someone who considers the Old West to have stopped in the 1920s (and lived somewhere that many aspects of the Old West haven't died off yet to this day) I've long wanted you to do a video on this sort of 'Twilight of the Old West' stuff. Thank you for covering it!

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +22

      Sure!

    • @alswann2702
      @alswann2702 Рік тому +32

      My great uncle was known to get all liquored up and ride his horse through town on Saturday nights shooting his six guns off well into the 1940s. It's a family tradition, my 3X great grandfather was lynched there for rustling horses.

    • @TitusCastiglione1503
      @TitusCastiglione1503 Рік тому +4

      I second this. The Twilight of the Old West sub genre is really cool and deserves its own video.

    • @dutch9357
      @dutch9357 Рік тому +7

      @@alswann2702 I know guys that did this in Ogden, Utah in the 70’s 😂

    • @buckfizzard291
      @buckfizzard291 Рік тому

      West died 1933 with the theft of American gold and making abc agency to take your God given rights by a commie banker

  • @SeanDahle
    @SeanDahle 11 місяців тому +30

    So cool that Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 acknowledged the these early semi auto pistols by making them usable in both games. Mauser's my favorite of these

  • @waynedaly1718
    @waynedaly1718 Рік тому +103

    Another fun episode. Quite surprised to see Luger PO8 and C96 Mauser in the hands of the western crowd. Well done yet again Santee. Thanks mate

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +2

      You're welcome.

    • @Platano_macho
      @Platano_macho Рік тому +10

      There is a museum in Guthrie Oklahoma where lawman in the old west carried Luger pistols chamberd in 7.65 Luger

    • @Platano_macho
      @Platano_macho Рік тому +1

      Those pistols are on display

    • @WheelgunDan
      @WheelgunDan Рік тому +13

      I think the Broomhandle Mauser was actually invented a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... because Han Solo carried one. hahahaha

  • @patron8597
    @patron8597 Рік тому +41

    The Mauser the title character in the 1968 movie The Great Silence carries is part of its iconic feel, and it goes well with the "closing era of the Old West" theme.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +2

      Great!! I'll try and catch it.

    • @YTLSF
      @YTLSF Рік тому +1

      Was about to say the same! If I remember the sheriff of snow hill seems pretty bewildered by the weapon also when seeing the title character use it

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +4

      @@YTLSF I realize I've seen it! Spaghetti Westerns do that. You think it's a new one to you, then 20 minutes in....you've seen it before.

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla Рік тому +24

    One thing I actually find pretty interesting is a lot of the ergonomics of the 1911 pistol was actually at the request of horse cavalry. That includes things we take for granted on modern pistols like:
    1. A magazine release button I hit with my thumb that drops the magazine freely. It was designed because the original heel release meant unloading the gun was a two handed affair.
    2. The slide release that locks the slide back when the magazine is empty and you chamber a new magazine by hitting it with your thumb. Again, the prior guns that didn’t have it required two hands to rack the slide to chamber a round.
    3. A drop safety to prevent the trigger from being pulled by inertia if the gun drops on its back. While the grip safety wasn’t widely copied, the concept lives on in the trigger safety (aka dingus) on modern pistols like Glocks.
    4. A thumb safety allowing you to reholster the pistol safely after firing a few rounds. Any pistol that does have a safety will often by a 1911 style thumb safety with up as safe and down as fire, including the new U.S. military M17 and M18.
    You would figure pistol ergonomics designed for horse cavalry 100+ years ago would feel really archaic by today’s standards, yet they don’t. Because of those reasons (and the Wild Bunch), I do consider the 1911 the “last” cowboy pistol.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +4

      It's well thought out gun tech.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Рік тому +7

      @@ArizonaGhostriders Yeah, though it also shows how little handgun design has actually evolved since. lol
      During the 1800’s we went from flintlocks to auto loading pistols. Meanwhile the 1911 is still relevant in modern times with just a few features backported.

  • @wolfcharlie3771
    @wolfcharlie3771 Рік тому +95

    Compared to the united states and canada, various latin-american countries (from the north of mexico to the southern tip of argentina) still had their wild frontiers even after the turn of the century (some go as far to the 1940s). And there were plenty of times were outlaws and gunslingers started to used semi autos while still maintaining their old ways, heck, some even used crazier stuff like bren machine guns stolen from the authorities for example

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +26

      I've heard. You still have a lot of outlaws and gunfighters!

    • @randycurtis1176
      @randycurtis1176 Рік тому

      Does that mean: Bad guys can get their hands full auto machine guns?,
      bad guys break laws?, military can have their weapon stolen?
      and these same bad guys don't register their weapons?
      I might as well give supporting gun control. ☠️☠️☠️

    • @GrosvnerMcaffrey
      @GrosvnerMcaffrey Рік тому +6

      In a way I see alot of early mobsters as the new outlaws

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan Рік тому

      Now the cartel controls everything and regularly fights against the Mexican military with equipment that matches their capabilities

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +4

      @@GrosvnerMcaffrey Yes

  • @ianpatrick6034
    @ianpatrick6034 Рік тому +18

    I inherited a Savage arms 1907 32 acp. A great uncle bought it because he was a foreman in a diamond mine in South Africa and was almost beaten to death. After he healed, he was attacked by 6 guys. He shot all 6 of them and they never attacked him again. The workers of the mine had no idea how many bullets it held so they didn't try to attack him anymore. The slogan for the pistol was "10 shots quick as lightning"

  • @dillonc7955
    @dillonc7955 Рік тому +20

    As someone who played Red Dead Redemption 2 (a game that takes place in the late Wild West) I shook my head when I was able to buy the Mauser in 1907, most notably find a gunslinger using a customized one in 1899. At least there's historical justification the pistol was in the later portion of the Old West.

  • @joeltowle2737
    @joeltowle2737 Рік тому +8

    The Professionals is a great early 1900's movie with modern semi's and bolt guns!

  • @docternoblex
    @docternoblex Рік тому +7

    Fun fact: Hugo Borchardt refused to revise and improve his handgun because he insisted that his handgun was “perfect”, so Georg Luger took the design and improved it, resulting in the Swiss and others praising the design of the Luger semi automatic in 1900

  • @TimKoehn44
    @TimKoehn44 Рік тому +35

    Great episode Santee! Great to learn about the development of certain styles of weapons. Love my 1911! Cheers!

  • @genedhallinc
    @genedhallinc Рік тому +2

    My all time favorite movie The Wild Bunch story was set to depict aging outlaws, being pushed southwest from modern civilization, which facilitated a believable concept that they had semi auto pistols and 10 Guage shotguns likely procured from the military. I looked up all the weapons used in the movie and I think all but one was legit for the date and time, that these outlaws roamed that area. Combined with the stolen horses and uniforms used in the beginning of the movie, there was a good amount of validation, implemented into the story. Also it has been taught in schools that Germany apparently had positioned themselves in South America / Mexico with intentions to invade us from the South. So, the Killing the German officers in the end gave the movie a nice added, meaningful twist.

  • @doraran2138
    @doraran2138 Рік тому +5

    There's a picture of a frontier bar in early1900's, with a C96 Mauser being held by a patron in a bar. I've seen pic several times, but keep forgetting to print it out. If you have or find it I'd love to see it again.
    BTW Sears catalogue of 1903 shows .30 Lugars for sale. Wyatt Earp was a paid spokesperson promoting the Savage M1907 pocket pistol.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +2

      A subscriber sent me a photo with a Native American warrior holding a self-loader. Looks like a Luger, but I can't tell.

  • @TheGreyTurtleEntertainment
    @TheGreyTurtleEntertainment Рік тому +6

    My favorite thing about early Semi auto guns is playing the "has this appeared in Star Wars" game.
    It's pretty fun!

  • @lukesams3349
    @lukesams3349 Рік тому +7

    Even The Mandalorian reflects these technological changes in the waning days of the frontier. Din Djarin’s blaster pistol is a modified Bergmann with sci-fi decorations to fit better into the Star Wars universe

  • @Tururu669
    @Tururu669 Рік тому +11

    Imagine being a common outlaw, all your life shooting and being shot at by Revolvers, seeing one day a weird handgun with no cylinder shooting much faster than you could ever hope

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +3

      Hate to tell you, it's been proven that you can shoot a single action faster than a semi-automatic.

    • @terrelldurocher3330
      @terrelldurocher3330 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ArizonaGhostriders well I would assume, cylinder don't have much travel to do.

  • @joemortimer1763
    @joemortimer1763 Рік тому +8

    Love this episode! Glad you expanded into the early 1900s. Some folks think the old West went up to about 1920s in rural America. Not sure of my stance, however seems plausible to me as percussion firearms were still in use in rural areas well into the 1930s-ish, especially for folks who did not have alot of money. Love the Colt M1911. The first weapon I was issued in the Navy in the 1980s was a Colt M1911A1. To this day it is still my favorite semi-auto hand gun. Batjac JW was a little late to the party, but still glad to see him. 🥳🤣 Love his channel too.

  • @rhondaz356
    @rhondaz356 Рік тому +7

    Santee, just another example of your interesting, informative knowledge, loaded with entertaining, audio/visuals. I ALWAYS come away, having learned something about our past, and sometimes the influence on our present. 👏🤠👏 #1

  • @alswann2702
    @alswann2702 Рік тому +3

    An elderly Frank James called his Colt Hammerless .32 auto his "pocket gattling gun".

  • @JeffDeWitt
    @JeffDeWitt Рік тому +13

    I've liked the 1911 since first noticing it in all those WWII movies years ago, just a cool looking gun, and after learning more about it, I got one as my first handgun. I figured any machine that has been made for well over a century has to be good! (And I was right).
    I'd also like to compliment you for the creative way you put your logo though your videos. It's very well done and gives a subtile bit of copy protection.

  • @manoftheocean6988
    @manoftheocean6988 11 місяців тому +2

    "What are those guns they have?"
    "What, You don't have them In the high country? Invention moves real quick."
    "Here, It does... Frightening."
    I love John Marston's reaction to seeing Broomhandles for the first time.

  • @John-uy4jx
    @John-uy4jx Рік тому +9

    I think it’ll be cool if the next Red dead redemption game takes place post WW1 with Jack coming home and his beginning weapon is either a M1911 or a captured German Luger. 1919 would be interesting because you have the last few days of the Wild West mixed with the dawn of the newest crime wave of prohibition which is going to keep the Wild West on life support for a few more years.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +2

      Great idea!

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Рік тому +1

      For a game like that they could overlook the spread of rule of law and just allow the wild west era to merge gracefully into the prohibition era. The wise outlaws transition into moonshiners and gangsters, the less wise outlaws become obsolete.

  • @chewcacachewpipi8879
    @chewcacachewpipi8879 Рік тому +3

    Depending on one's view of when the Old West ended, even automatic weapons like the Maxim gun and 1st generation sub-machine guns were used there. In my opinion it spanned from the early 1600s to the 1920s.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      That's interesting!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @jamalwilburn228
      @jamalwilburn228 Рік тому +1

      I think it ended in 1920 when the "Wild West" became the "countryside".
      The US had now switched to being an industrial might on the world stage due to the collapse of the European continent and royalty. The world was moving to radio and experimenting with television.

  • @tedebear108
    @tedebear108 Рік тому +2

    Good morning santine. Ted from Texas here. I had an old 1911 mate in 1914. But I needed money and I sold it. Made a lot of money on it, but I regret selling it. Great episode my friend

  • @mherod51
    @mherod51 Рік тому +13

    Yep, back in the early 80s all I had were Colt SAs, but when I got back into fast draw & spinnin' pistols, I decided that I wanted a "modern" firearm, so I ended up with 1911s in 3 sizes. Nothing says Old West when robbin the train like a SA Army, but a 1911 is a really a good shooter and carry gun. God bless John Browning.

  • @masonbricke4568
    @masonbricke4568 Рік тому +3

    Some of you may already know this...
    Have you ever wondered why, in "Big Jake", Christopher Mitchum loads his "1911 Bergmann" with a pistol grip magazine, when a Bergmann carried its ammunition in front of the trigger? It's because the pistol wasn't really a Bergmann, but a 1938 Walther made up to resemble a Bergmann.
    I don't know why a mock-up was used, though I suppose it was simply because there was no operable Bergmann available.
    Just goes to demonstrate how nothing in movies is what it seems. :)

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      yeah, I read that on IMFDb

    • @masonbricke4568
      @masonbricke4568 Рік тому +1

      @@ArizonaGhostriders I figured you would know. They don't call you Santee for nothing. :)

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      @@masonbricke4568 HA! Well, it was news to me. I often wondered why they didn't use a real Bergman, but figured they couldn't find one...

  • @jzargo7443
    @jzargo7443 Рік тому +3

    Fun video. I love early automatics, so far have aquired a C96, Luger, Savage 1907, and a reproduction 1911. All very interesting in their own way

  • @richardsullivan1776
    @richardsullivan1776 Рік тому +2

    Semi- Automatics are great but the old cap n' ball revolvers are the most fun to shoot. I love the days of yester year and I'm a sucker for nostalgia!

  • @austinwhite4626
    @austinwhite4626 10 місяців тому +2

    Fun fact, Winston Churchill's favorite gun during the Boer War was the Mauser C96 Pistol. I saw a one man show in my hometown of Winston Churchill.

    • @austinwhite4626
      @austinwhite4626 10 місяців тому +1

      And I got to say as a proud man of British, Scottish and Irish heritage (though a Native of Iowa) Winston Churchill was the greatest Prime Minister.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  10 місяців тому

      Interesting!

  • @Snuffy03
    @Snuffy03 Рік тому +4

    Another great episode. And it is one that touches on a subject most people don't know about! Good job!

  • @BradSprinkle
    @BradSprinkle Рік тому +4

    Really like this one. Pretty fond of single stack 1911. SAS alias 'Bad Brad'. Enjoyed this one a lot. Look forward to each episode. Have done one the English ranchers. A thought. Keep them coming. 🤠👍

  • @cesarh0767
    @cesarh0767 Рік тому +2

    Glad to be on this channel again!

  • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
    @SmallCaliberArmsReview Рік тому +2

    I love me some 1851 and 1873 revolver action as well as flintlock and percussion rifles but you just cant beat a good ol' 1911. Very cool episode Santee and you need to take me to that place that had all them old shootin' arns on the wall!

  • @mxhdroom
    @mxhdroom Рік тому +9

    Another great video Santee! One correction though.... Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch would have taken place about 1912ish, making it pre-WWI not post-WWI. There's a scene where William Holden and his gang brandish their 1911's in front of the German weapons expert. The German questions the group about how they aquiried a pistol made only for the American military and not available for civilian use. This only happened in the first few years of production and 1911 production didn't really start until 1912. By 1913 or so commercial 1911s began to appear on the civilian market.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      Good catch. I thought Wild Bunch was set after.

    • @hyenaloaf1858
      @hyenaloaf1858 Рік тому +2

      First commercial run was in 1912 I believe, a very small number

    • @mxhdroom
      @mxhdroom Рік тому +3

      @@hyenaloaf1858 Right... and I remember reading that the army didn't even really see production 1911s until early 1912. That one statement in the movie really cements what the time period is supposed to be. Kudos to the writers!

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 Рік тому

      I once bought a very doggy 1915 manufactured 1911 Commercial that I later sold to my brother after the slide cracked and had to be replaced. It was the most comfortable 1911 I ever shot. Just shows how a century of abuse can improve a firearm.

    • @WheelgunDan
      @WheelgunDan Рік тому

      @@Paladin1873 IF you'd like to find an affordable replacement, the quality of the Tisas US Army 1911-A1 is really good.
      www.tisasusa.com/product-p/usa-wg.htm

  • @telesniper2
    @telesniper2 Рік тому +3

    Well a lot of what people think of as the "wild west" was centered around mining towns. Tombstone for example. There's really not much other reason to have towns like that in the middle of nowhere. Anyway these towns really did deserve their reputation and were really lawless. I'd say they really kind of died out when gold and especially silver mining was played out about 1910. But right around this time petroleum wildcatting really took off, and those towns were kind of the spiritual descendent of those wild west silver and gold towns. My great grandfather went out to Oklahoma to work in some of these towns and said it was a terrifying place and he always carried a Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket pistol and slept with it under his pillow. That was in the early 1920s.

  • @Paladin1873
    @Paladin1873 Рік тому +2

    It wasn't just semi-auto pistols showing up near the end of the 19th century. Both recoil and gas operated machine guns debuted before the pistols. A late friend of mine was very active in cowboy shooting in the 1990s, and after seeing the movie "The Rough Riders", he had a strong hankering to acquire a belt-fed Colt 1895 "Potato Digger" similar to the ones used by Teddy Roosevelt's outfit. As luck would have it, I knew where a registered one was gathering dust and being used as an ashtray in a gun shop. After some price haggling, a deal was struck, the cigarette butts and chewing gum wrappers were removed from the breech, and the gun found a new home in Texas where my buddy would take it to the cowboy shoots and charge a dollar a round. The proceeds went to funding their club activities.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому

      That's a great story....bet the gun was happy it was no longer an ashtray

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 Рік тому

      @@ArizonaGhostriders It ran like a sewing machine.

  • @pajamajohnson6051
    @pajamajohnson6051 Рік тому +1

    1:51 That holster. I love it!

  • @WhatIsYourMalfunction
    @WhatIsYourMalfunction Рік тому +7

    Had a chance to buy a red 9 C96 Broomhandle a few years back. Keep kicking myself for not doing it. I live in Oregon, so I can't buy anything anymore. Nice episode -- I learned a coupe things!

  • @ralphlatorre203
    @ralphlatorre203 Рік тому +4

    Great video! One of my favorite movies is The Professionals starring Burt Lancaster and Lee Marvin. Great use of then modern weapons to Lancaster still clinging to his lever action Winchester and Colt Peacemaker.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому

      Right!

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Рік тому +1

      The period around the Mexican Revolution/Civil Wars of the late 1890s early 1900s was a period that saw various combatants using firearms that were not out of place to 1880s up to the then state of the the art military arms from Mauser and others. In fact the first mass produced semi-automatic rifle design came out of Mexico. The Mondragon.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Рік тому +1

      On InRange's channel they make a good arguement for the lever action Winchester being the assault rifle of its day.

  • @driftydegree5624
    @driftydegree5624 Рік тому +2

    Red Dead Redemption 2 is an amazing way to experience early semi automatics as mentioned in the video.

  • @Nooziterp1
    @Nooziterp1 Рік тому +5

    An old west gunman with a semi-auto doesn't look right somehow.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      yeah, it doesn't

    • @CancerGaming56
      @CancerGaming56 3 місяці тому

      I mean John Marston looks just fine

    • @double-eagle-dave
      @double-eagle-dave Місяць тому

      I respectfuly have to disagree the american cowboy adapted and changed with the times they went from muzzke loading and cap and ball to cartrige conversion and repeating lever action then from cap and ball and cartrige single action to single action to double action from sa/da to semi auto the more the west progressed so did the cowboy jusy my opibion

    • @mohamedkhider6998
      @mohamedkhider6998 14 днів тому

      @@CancerGaming56 Dutch as well

  • @Dsdcain
    @Dsdcain Рік тому +1

    That's your friends for you. Helpful whether you want them to be or not. Thanks for the new video.
    Stay safe out there and take it easy man.

  • @jordanhicks5131
    @jordanhicks5131 Рік тому +2

    I love that tom horn story, I heard it decades ago and it always stuck with me as a funny example of changes in tech tripping someone up

  • @salemite
    @salemite Рік тому +2

    Fun vid! I am in a pretty similar boat with you, semi autos are tools but revolvers are hobbies. 🙏 Shout out to the venerable Colt Woodsman and Ruger Mark series for teaching generations to shoot.

  • @Skaramine
    @Skaramine 3 місяці тому +1

    The longslide Model 59XX is a beauty. My character, Robin Locke, moved to a Mauser C96 when she went to India, but still kept an Iver Johnson. 38 with her at all times. 😊

  • @johnrudy9404
    @johnrudy9404 Рік тому +1

    Joe Kid...great movie. Broom handle in that was really anachronistic.

  • @DeadSpyGaming_
    @DeadSpyGaming_ Рік тому +1

    It’s cool I stumbled across ur channel a few months ago.
    My family tree has cowboys and some Cajun Indian, and our last name is ( RIDER ) that’s why I like ur channel Arizona ghost riders😂😂 I also use to live in Arizona and my family would take me to the Wild West towns… we have a family crest and our name dates back to medieval times where we got the name rider from being knights. As I was studying my family tree I came across some outlaws, shop owners, and lawman in my family during 1850-1910. Ur videos give me an idea of what life was like for my ancestors

  • @handlebarslim78
    @handlebarslim78 Рік тому +1

    Great video pard!! I tip my hat to you. I do my part to keep the old west alive. I appreciate you.

  • @imyourhuckleberry2648
    @imyourhuckleberry2648 Рік тому +1

    Cool Santee! I love the movie The Great Silence with all the C96 action! watching this makes me think I should revisit that classic.

  • @LionquestFitness
    @LionquestFitness Рік тому +1

    Good video and it's always good to see Batjac J. W.

  • @FoodForestPermaculture
    @FoodForestPermaculture Рік тому +2

    Fantastic Video . Thank you kindly for sharing .

  • @Derek_Plays.09
    @Derek_Plays.09 6 місяців тому +2

    Although the 1911 is my favourite handgun, I still LOVE revolvers a lot

  • @markkumyllykoski5444
    @markkumyllykoski5444 Рік тому +2

    I once saw picture of 3 Texas Rangers each posing with a C96. It didn't have specific date on it but it was said to have been taken sometime before WW1.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      Awww, I wish I had seen it.

    • @markkumyllykoski5444
      @markkumyllykoski5444 Рік тому +2

      @@ArizonaGhostriders I tried to find it again so I could link it but can't find it anywhere. I think it was on a forum post discussing about automatics in the old west but it has been so long that it might have been deleted by now. It was a picture of 3 Rangers posing with their guns out and even though it was pretty grainy, those were definitely C96s they were holding.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      @@markkumyllykoski5444 We'll find it again one day

  • @E3ECO
    @E3ECO 3 місяці тому +1

    That semi revolver was really clever.

  • @BananaMan-vg7dm
    @BananaMan-vg7dm Рік тому +1

    I ran a Weird West sort of setting in a tabletop game once, in the twilight of its own Old West, and featured semi-autos quite prominently as a new-fangled tech. Loads of fun, it was... wish I could have ran it for a little longer! There's something so awesome to me about the image of a cowboy wielding a broomhandle Mauser, and I can't exactly explain why.

  • @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194

    Great video, thanks for doing the research and sharing it with us on old west semi autos.

  • @Jakki_G
    @Jakki_G Рік тому +2

    I'd like to thank red dead for reminding everyone that the wild west was not FULLY tamed until the 20s

  • @robertbuckey6517
    @robertbuckey6517 Рік тому +1

    Santee when he got the request for this video- "oh, don't make me talk about guns..."

  • @gijoe508
    @gijoe508 Рік тому +1

    Was waiting for the Big Jake reference I knew it had to be coming with this topic, great video!

  • @raymondrussell500
    @raymondrussell500 Рік тому +1

    Don’t remember if I’ve said thanks recently. But, thanks! I really enjoy your videos. They are both a learning tool but also so very entertaining. And i always look forward to each new one! This one taught me something new, i never really thought much about semi autos or the part they played in Western History before. Thank you especially for teaching me and making me so much more aware of this. At 82 it’s so very nice to be able to learn new things. Keep up the great work!

  • @FoodForestPermaculture
    @FoodForestPermaculture Рік тому +2

    Merry Christmas Santee and Family

  • @tothedome566
    @tothedome566 Рік тому +1

    That was a really cool and informational video!!

  • @lawrencelewis2592
    @lawrencelewis2592 Рік тому +1

    My father had a broom-handle Mauser in the 1940s. He said it came apart easily but you needed 5 hands to put it back together.

  • @Mazaco_The_Snake
    @Mazaco_The_Snake 4 місяці тому +1

    Hunt:showdown showed me how much some of the early semis would compare to some of the revolvers and you can see why they were slowly being more used

  • @victorwaddell6530
    @victorwaddell6530 Рік тому +1

    Thanks again Santee & Co.

  • @michaelpage4199
    @michaelpage4199 Рік тому +1

    That was a great review. Shout out to Batjac

  • @lifestudent2472
    @lifestudent2472 Рік тому +1

    Mankind always develops their weapons at the very leading edge of the development of the available technology .

  • @madbull0669
    @madbull0669 Рік тому +1

    I remeber requesting this about a year ago. Im happy you finaly did the video

  • @calvarymcguire6075
    @calvarymcguire6075 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Really, really enjoyed this one

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 Рік тому +1

    Welp, love the comedy and the vibes. One gun channel to another, sokid subscription from me.

  • @BitStClair
    @BitStClair 3 місяці тому +2

    Revolvers where used up till some time in the 1980's because they where believed to be more reliable than autoloaders.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  3 місяці тому +1

      Still today many feel that way. Some of that comes from experience.

    • @BitStClair
      @BitStClair 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ArizonaGhostridersno failure to feed, no stove pipe jamming. If it fails to fire you can just pull another round off. As a kid I couldn't understand why the army guys used autoloader (1911).

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  3 місяці тому

      @@BitStClair The only time my revover has failed me is when a primer backed out. That was a blank, too, and not uncommon.

  • @badgerrrlattin35
    @badgerrrlattin35 Рік тому +1

    In his book "SIXGUNS" Elmer Keith recounted a brush a pack train wrangler had with a Black Bear. He was packing a Luger 9mm and when his dog went after the bear - the bear grabbed it. It was up to the wrangler with his 9 to save the dogs life. The full magazine of the Luger was drained and the bear was completely unphased. They lost the dog, but the pack train used the confusion to get outta dodge. If you research much, you will discover the 9mm has a long history of failure.

  • @luisreynoso9445
    @luisreynoso9445 Рік тому +1

    These videos never fail to entertain or inform

  • @Mr.Hen_In_a_Tie
    @Mr.Hen_In_a_Tie Рік тому +2

    2:50 Gee, i wonder why many people now think that the wild west isn't over by 1899?

  • @justinweaver8107
    @justinweaver8107 Рік тому +1

    Thats awesome love ol west gun knowledge. Hope all is well.

  • @kennethmckenzie6882
    @kennethmckenzie6882 Рік тому +1

    Hey Santee, I got to meet Pete Sherayko, “Texas Jack”, at the Crossroads of the West gun show last weekend. Bought his book about historical accuracy in westerns.

  • @josephfelix7451
    @josephfelix7451 3 місяці тому +2

    Their is a photo of a cowboy and a Indian in 1913 playing cards in Arizona and the cowboy had a 1911 so carrying a 1911 still makes you a cowboy

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  3 місяці тому

      Most of them today carry some version of a 1911. Some still carry a revolver. Depends on the rancher...

  • @allenwatkins4972
    @allenwatkins4972 Рік тому +1

    The trouble with semi-autos, in the old west, was the lack of available semi-auto ammo outside of the large cities. So, not so much.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому

      That was the case with other ammo early on, too. But by the time of the semi-auto, the West was getting so much available product.

  • @JEDiTV
    @JEDiTV Рік тому +1

    🎯 💨 🔫 🤠
    Yeehaw! Thanks for another fun episode Santee!

  • @distlledbrewedreviewed
    @distlledbrewedreviewed Рік тому +1

    I never knew how early those were made. Thank you my friend.

  • @OldMusicFan83
    @OldMusicFan83 Рік тому +1

    Broom handles are iconic.

  • @paulgraham5909
    @paulgraham5909 Рік тому +1

    Never knew about the semi revolver! Thanks for that! Great video as always!!

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому +1

      You're welcome.

    • @shooterqqqq
      @shooterqqqq Рік тому +1

      The Davis Museum outside of Tulsa OK has two of them. They have 50,000 guns and other relics on display. The Webley Fosbery was used in the Maltese Falcon. Matba used a similar design so they could move the barrel to the six o'clock position. I own three.

  • @judsongaiden9878
    @judsongaiden9878 Рік тому +1

    2:07 Used by Sean Connery in Zardoz. He had to cock it manually since theatrical blanks didn't produce enough recoil to cycle it. It could be described either as semi-automatic or as an "inertia-operated auto-charging single-action."
    4:32 Jakobs allegiance run.

  • @joelhurley2678
    @joelhurley2678 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Santee for another great episode. Very interesting history thank you so much.

  • @Mr_Fancypants
    @Mr_Fancypants Рік тому +2

    I think all weapons before 1900 are the best because there was such a huge market with weird, unique designs it's impossible to know them all

  • @ADRay1999
    @ADRay1999 Рік тому +2

    I have just got recently the successor of the FN 1900
    Colt’s 1903 pocket hammerless in .32 acp
    (Circa 1940)

  • @quinmatthew1
    @quinmatthew1 Рік тому +1

    Did you know the 1911 is still technically single action? There are double action models but originally trigger only drops the hammer, the reciprocating slide is what cocks it back

  • @johnhuffman3415
    @johnhuffman3415 Рік тому +1

    Love every time Bill makes a appearance

  • @larrylapalm7481
    @larrylapalm7481 Рік тому +1

    I think it’s really cool that John Browning was inventing all these guns in his shop in odgen utah in the 1880’s and 90’s . He even developed a gas operated machine gun in the 1890s. Truly a genius

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому

      He was.

    • @alswann2702
      @alswann2702 Рік тому +2

      Can you say potato digger? Chambered in .30 Caliber Government, the only government I trust. Now know as 30-40 Krag, at over $2 a round but a necessary vice in my Krag cavalry carbine.

  • @fordenginebuildersv8power184
    @fordenginebuildersv8power184 Рік тому +1

    Great piece of history here!

  • @SlickSixguns
    @SlickSixguns Рік тому +1

    My revolvers took that episode too personally

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому

      Sorry! Just take them out and show them a good time. Go to the range, a good cleaning, etc.

  • @Hades8103
    @Hades8103 Рік тому +1

    Helped Santee strengthen his desire to use you in a William Tell stunt? Most certainly.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Рік тому +1

    It's always interesting to look at the ideas that come out with new technology. The Webley is a cleaver idea but you can see why it had its limitations

  • @richardlahan7068
    @richardlahan7068 Рік тому +1

    I didn't know how popular the early semiautos would have been due to unfamiliar operation (with many people) and difficulty getting ammunition.

    • @ArizonaGhostriders
      @ArizonaGhostriders  Рік тому

      In the smaller towns, probably pretty rare. Bigger cities would have seen more of them.

  • @wcharliewilson7004
    @wcharliewilson7004 Рік тому +1

    The 'Old West' as conveyed in movies, and with what we know of its legends lasted about 20 years. I'd say from 1868 to 1888. Auto loaders came on the scene in the later 1890s and were halfway around the world.

  • @rickfalcon5572
    @rickfalcon5572 3 місяці тому +1

    Johnny Madrid (of From Dusk Till Dawn 3) was awesome to see in a gunfight, with a pair of Mauser’s.

  • @vikingshaman3079
    @vikingshaman3079 Рік тому +1

    Another great episode