There are 3 major reasons the Mauser C96 took off that well. 1. Mauser was very successful with its bolt action rifles, so the pistol had a name to it and customers were convinced, that this pistol must be a good one. 2. Due to the bolt action rifles Mauser not only had a foot in the door to military contracts. The company already sat on the table with the military, aka well established relations. 3. Mauser had the production facilities and capabilities to fulfill any contract in due time. btw, very nice display and quite valuable.
It was also very reliable, had a higher capacity than most of its competitors, and was chambered in a fairly potent, low recoil cartridge. They seem ungainly today, but they were about the same dimensions, weight, and balance to most service revolvers of the time. I could certainly see officers purchasing it as a high tech upgrade.
Ry Hirdler I agree it works. Unfortunatley my one went because of the local poloticians vote hunting, but it was a joy to shoot. In British TV shows of the 1960's The Assasin! always had an attache case which when opened had a Mauser C96, stock and barrel extension with a telescopic sight in it. this was assembled and the fatal shot fired! That's what started me wanting one! :-) l
Me too, even though i guess i can understand how impractical it would be to actually use in a war... hang utility, it's so cool looking. i was thinking about what pistols someone would want to put in a little extra side-display of all the guns that came out just in 1900-1910 or even 1905, just to show what those late 1800s guns led to or were developed into... but im afraid it would be a longer list than the guns in the 1800s display! Not to mention that most of them would be derived or inspired by just 2 or 3 of those 1800s autopistols. makes me begin to see what museum curators (and probably sometimes you auctioneers) have to figure out when designing exhibits or collection themes... complicated!
Same here! 5 years ago, I was a complete ignorant. Now, thanks to His teaching, I can recognize designs and models, understand some of the evolutionary trends and, above all, I gained an enormous appreciation for the engineering that goes behind the guns.
Seriously. It’s like a kids science fair presentation on steroids and I love every inch of it. I could stand there and read that info and look for a long time lol. I hope he finds other overviews like that in the future
Honestly I really wish those who are anti gun could look at something like this and simply see several mechanically and historically significant pieces of engineering rather than "horrible deadly killing machines"
I love the Maxim-Silverman, but it is essentially a blowback pistol in 7.63 Borchardt/Mauser. It would have worked a lot better in a smaller cartridge (even though military contracts were the goal all around). However, it seems that Maxim himself might have been less than enthusiastic about his minion’s invention, and that certainly won’t have helped. Ian has a great video, of cause.
Yeah. Both the Maxim-Silverman and Schwarzlose looks like a prototype for something like the Ruger Mk. I series or Colt Woodsman, with their slanted M1911-style grips and thin barrels. Browning must have been inspired by them while creating the M1911 prototype.
Shorty Shorty The 1911’s grip angle didn’t come for a while, actually. In fact, it wasn’t added until the model of 1910. The Colt 1900-1909 all had much more vertical grips. If you’re interested, Ian has a video on the 1911’s development, and has since made two more videos looking at the 1907 and the 1909.
To the collector whose display that is: thank you for letting Ian film it so we could all see it, and also it's a very nice display and a really great collection. That's a really interesting set of pistols. (apologies if you mentioned the collector and I just missed it)
John Browning wasn't first, or even involved early in the process. But when he turned his mind to it, he created a system that is used by nearly every manufacturer today, designed iconic pistols along with new, popular cartridges that remain with us today over 100 years later. He dominated. There is a reason that he was referred to as a genius.
Seeing all those pistols in one place is incredibly cool! I find these early self loaders to be much more interesting than the fairly boring hyper practicool super tacticool stuff we have today. I would buy registered stocked reproductions of all of these pistols (or I would if I had any money) (especially the C96).
Do autorevolvers count? With the black powder issue, I think they would be your best bet. Of course those never really took off, but I suppose it's possible that they'd be a success in the absence of smokeless powder.
Excellent video! Hope you'll bring something like this overview about other weapons: rifles, flintlocks, revolvers. I think that giving understanding of the weapon's evolution (with such a visualisation) is one of the strongest and most interesting part of your channel.
@@dfwai7589 you've seen it (hint - they are all in the video) Having said that I think he may have recently hired someone, but very recently so most of the content is just him.
Phill Gizmo It would be simple to edit only by preparing so much that you can talk without stumbling for a long time. On a few videos you can see an edit where he uses multiple takes at the same angle, but it is pretty rare.
Colt .45 ACP works alright with black powder. Really early Mauser C96 pistols had tight locking bolts so, they required an explosive powder to get them to operate correctly. I possessed an early Mauser C96 pistol when I was younger and tried reloading with standard American powders and it would fail to function. Highly explosive factory ammunition functioned perfectly.
I've not to date, felt internet patreon was something worth consideration, I find Ian's quality, quantity on this special interest is worth some input. I'll think of it as the collection bow for the Messiahs new jet plane ....ticket.
I have a small Berreta Minx that has no extractor. When I take the mag out of the gun and fire single shots the shell case jams in the action every other time. When I put the mag back in it ejects every time. It's clear that the mag plays a critical role in ejecting the case. I've always wondered if other non-extractor guns use the mag to push the case upward during recoil. If you have a non-extractor gun try using it without the nag and see if it jams.
The gun jams the same way every time it jams without the mag. The slide comes back and the case moves to the right about a quarter inch and jams between the slide and barrel creating a sort of horizontal stovepipe condition.
JohnLeePedimore Yep, with no extractor to kick it to the side and no mag to kick it upwards (hopefully) over your head the case tries falling in the mag well and jams. Does the same thing with my Italian 4” Minx
What a great summary and comparison of 19th C Autopistols, Ian, with a real backdrop. For me, this tied all the loose ends on your previous individual presentations. You explained so well the reasons for adoption failure due to the shortcomings of gun and ammo, non-consistent manufacture, over this period. This is my second viewing and I pick up on something new each time. Brilliant work -keep it up!
I was skeptical, but the news today that Red Dead online won't be launching until November (after launch) and will be considered a separate product from single player gives me some hope that the single player experience might not have been tainted by GTA Online. Even red dead online is being touted as a smaller, less over-the-top experience with role playing and a focus on morality. We'll see if that's true or just some nice marketing talk, but if it is true, I might actually find myself playing Red Dead Online on a regular basis.
That was a very interesting display and very informative presentation. Great thanks to whoever has managed to "collect the whole set" and who let you show it off,and to you for making this much more visible to the world.
Very interesting. Even modern ammo can have problems. The first time I had my Glock 22 to the range (Feb 2014) I had a box of Remington Green and White box jacketed hollow points. On around the 25th round I had a squib. Had to use a brass rode to beat the bullet out of the barrel. Shot the rest of the box and several more since and have had zero issues.
An absolutely amazing video Ian! Your channel is my favorite gun channel on UA-cam. Really my favorite of any channel gun or not. I love history and guns and you always deliver the information very well. Thank you for all the great videos!
I spent the whole video wondering why Ian hadn't told us which museum he was in. Then at the end, "the collector." That's a private collection? Not in an institution? Imagine having THAT over to one side of your living room or down in the basement den. That would be impressive scholarship and a praiseworthy level of display design at any firearms museum. That it belongs to a private collector (UNLESS he purchased it as is FROM a museum) is amazing.
Thank you so much for correctly utilizing the term accurate, and correctly identifying that mass production in the late 1800's would be more able to hit the accuracy required. A feat requiring precision, and so many people mix up precision with accuracy, its very frustrating as modern CNC machinery is often as, or less* precise in metal cutting. (*Less because there just is not the need for tighter precision then accuracy on a CNC not so on a manual machine)
I think it's very nice that you got access to something like that. Whomever collected those probably spent a small fortune and must be reluctant to just let anyone get near.
That's a very cool collection. It's neat to see the development of an idea from beginnings to maturity. Just having the idea isn't enough, you've got to be able to execute on it.
in the Schwarzlose m1898 section there is a typo, it should be "7.63 that fed through a detachable box magazine." Not that fed though a detachable box magazine. Amazing presentation, just thought you would like to know since your the perfectionist you are, keep up the amazing work!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this INFORMATIVE, INTERESTING AND INSIGHTFUL VIDEO of early (pre-1900) semi-autos. I've had an Early C96 commercial pre-1915 (pre-NS) and at one time 3 P08's (1915 DWM, 1940 S/42 and commercial 1960's 1929 Swiss style (Original Mauser). GREAT PISTOLS from a LONG TIME AGO and somewhat FORGOTTEN.🤔😉😁👍😯😢
Yes now I don't have to answer questions about early semi-autos anymore! And by that I mean, now I only need to send them one link instead of ALL of the links. This video reminded me of the early Semi auto pistol video you posted 7 years ago. I still have a headache from the sound of the firing pins dropping.
Great history lesson. Always fascinating to see how very new technology goes through various design iterations until the more successful ones emerge and evolve until they eventually become the design paradigms for many decades.
I'd seen most of these at Lithgow, but not the history behind them. Great video. Any sort of fledgling technology is great to look back on, because you can really see them throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. Early aviation (both civil and military) was another treasure trove of engineering hilarity.
13:50 7.63 Mauser. The Tokarev is basically a slightly hopped up copy of this round. (So, you can fire Mauser in a Tokarev, but it's not recommended you fire Tokarev in a Mauser.) Incidentally, it's also competitive in terms of penetration with cartridges designed for armor piercing, like 5.7 FN, and 4.6 H&K. (Granted, with Soviet corrosive ammunition.) Not bad for a centuries old round.
@toeff7852 Yeah, but if you reload Mauser to Tokarev pressures, then you basically made a weak walled Tokarev. I mostly reloaded straight rimmed cases, like the .357 family.
@toeff7852 GTK! If I ever get set up for reloading that, I've heard a lot of good things about Fiochi before. Like I said, I mostly reloaded .38/357 for target shooting. I had a great "Soup can" wadcutter for defense too, but I only had to use it once. Shattered his pelvis, took the fight right out of him. I even got off on Self Defense, they dropped the Attempted Murder, because it was a sub-lethal shot, with "Target loads." They didn't break the (.357) shells apart to see the powder load, or how deep the 215 grain bullets went, but I originally made them emulate the muzzle energy of the .45 with a flatter trajectory for Bowling Pin, and Sillhouettes. Those pills hit like a lead soup can too!
@toeff7852 Wrist. How did my wrist handle the recoil? Very well, .357 isn't really that hardcore, and the grip I had on my revolver really helped as well. A lot better than a 1911 .45, which presumably has the same recoil impulse.
I must say, the 1890s were a revolutionary time for handgun development going leaps and bounds with every few years a new interesting and totally different model coming out.
its interesting that very few industrial manufacturers got into the business until really the very end of the century or the 1900's, it was lots of little guys with maybe some friends that had some money, it wasn't till like the mauser that people woke up and realized there was a lot of money to be had here.
This video is awesome! Im working on a fantasy setting with pre ww1 flavor and have been going through your vids for inspiration on the small arms. So this vid was perfect :D
OMG I found the motherload of cool historical guns in one presentation............the video that got me to subscribe although I had watched prolly half his video uploads by now. Such good content if you like gun history or the engineering of guns or if your a nerd like me and just find this kinda machinery evolution stuff enthralling.
WOW! Ian, another fantastic episode. Something you point out, and something some younger viewers might have a hard time understanding, these inventors didn't have CAD. All they had was their knowledge and imagination.
JC Penney sold those surplus Turkish broomhandles and Hakim rifles. They were all in only fair shape but I wanted one of those pistols. Unfortunately it was hard for a seven year old to come up with $125 in those days.
We need a series of DVDs from you, Ian. That or some kind of for-sale read-only hard drive with all your work on it, just in case UA-cam decides to shut you down for some silly reason.
Ian all out there with the trifold board like he's competing in the Science Fair.
He wins a blue ribbon!
grown-ups science fair
Gun Jesus always gets first place
Oh man, it'd be cool if there was a Gun Fair, maybe even being part of gun shows.
Hypothesis: old timey semi-autos are cool.
It's crazy to think semiautomatic pistols are older than pump action shotguns.
Damn. That *is* pretty insane
Ikr?
One would think the pretty simple manual mechanism we know today would have been invented sooner.
Spencer made a pump in the 80s
Its mad to think you can make a shotgun with two pieces of pipe sliding inside each other with a firing pin in the end of the outer pipe.
According to my research the patent for a a pump/ slide action shotgun was issued to one Alexander Bain in 1854.
There are 3 major reasons the Mauser C96 took off that well.
1. Mauser was very successful with its bolt action rifles, so the pistol had a name to it and customers were convinced, that this pistol must be a good one.
2. Due to the bolt action rifles Mauser not only had a foot in the door to military contracts. The company already sat on the table with the military, aka well established relations.
3. Mauser had the production facilities and capabilities to fulfill any contract in due time.
btw, very nice display and quite valuable.
Ringo Wunderlich it also worked really well and wasn’t a .22
I feel describing it like that takes away from the fact that its one of the few good designs in this video.
It was also very reliable, had a higher capacity than most of its competitors, and was chambered in a fairly potent, low recoil cartridge. They seem ungainly today, but they were about the same dimensions, weight, and balance to most service revolvers of the time. I could certainly see officers purchasing it as a high tech upgrade.
Ry Hirdler I agree it works. Unfortunatley my one went because of the local poloticians vote hunting, but it was a joy to shoot. In British TV shows of the 1960's The Assasin! always had an attache case which when opened had a Mauser C96, stock and barrel extension with a telescopic sight in it. this was assembled and the fatal shot fired! That's what started me wanting one! :-) l
10 shots vs the 6 of a revolver.
Great display! Hopefully I'll get to see it at a show sometime soon.
Yes, museum quality display. Maybe you guys can put up a museum next to your auction house. A reference collection perhaps? :)
P.S. Mad that the MARS pistol just missed out.
Me too, even though i guess i can understand how impractical it would be to actually use in a war... hang utility, it's so cool looking.
i was thinking about what pistols someone would want to put in a little extra side-display of all the guns that came out just in 1900-1910 or even 1905, just to show what those late 1800s guns led to or were developed into... but im afraid it would be a longer list than the guns in the 1800s display! Not to mention that most of them would be derived or inspired by just 2 or 3 of those 1800s autopistols.
makes me begin to see what museum curators (and probably sometimes you auctioneers) have to figure out when designing exhibits or collection themes... complicated!
Do you think the collector would consider adopting a 59 year old? I would be willing to do chores.
A 59 year old with a 33 year old little brother?
And a 36 year old dog? Im willing to do tricks if I can tag along to the range.
That moment when you realize you can recognize most of the pistols shown
Gun Jesus has taught us well
Same here! 5 years ago, I was a complete ignorant. Now, thanks to His teaching, I can recognize designs and models, understand some of the evolutionary trends and, above all, I gained an enormous appreciation for the engineering that goes behind the guns.
@@VRichardsn Same! Been following him for years, I've learned so much about guns from him he truly is a great teacher.
The idea behind the Mauser C.96 came from a galaxy a long time ago and far, far away. But nobody wants to talk about that.
I am still gawking at the wall in all it's glory.
Seriously. It’s like a kids science fair presentation on steroids and I love every inch of it. I could stand there and read that info and look for a long time lol. I hope he finds other overviews like that in the future
Honestly I really wish those who are anti gun could look at something like this and simply see several mechanically and historically significant pieces of engineering rather than "horrible deadly killing machines"
@@afrog2666 you just proved his point with the last comment...
Padmmegh Ambrela that is a pretty epic wall.
I still find it unfortunate that the Maxim-Silverman pistol never became a success. Such a sleek, beautiful pistol.
Same with me and the Schwarzlose.
I love the Maxim-Silverman, but it is essentially a blowback pistol in 7.63 Borchardt/Mauser. It would have worked a lot better in a smaller cartridge (even though military contracts were the goal all around).
However, it seems that Maxim himself might have been less than enthusiastic about his minion’s invention, and that certainly won’t have helped.
Ian has a great video, of cause.
Yeah. Both the Maxim-Silverman and Schwarzlose looks like a prototype for something like the Ruger Mk. I series or Colt Woodsman, with their slanted M1911-style grips and thin barrels. Browning must have been inspired by them while creating the M1911 prototype.
Shorty Shorty The 1911’s grip angle didn’t come for a while, actually. In fact, it wasn’t added until the model of 1910. The Colt 1900-1909 all had much more vertical grips.
If you’re interested, Ian has a video on the 1911’s development, and has since made two more videos looking at the 1907 and the 1909.
@@calanon534 God, I know right?
To the collector whose display that is: thank you for letting Ian film it so we could all see it, and also it's a very nice display and a really great collection. That's a really interesting set of pistols.
(apologies if you mentioned the collector and I just missed it)
John Browning wasn't first, or even involved early in the process. But when he turned his mind to it, he created a system that is used by nearly every manufacturer today, designed iconic pistols along with new, popular cartridges that remain with us today over 100 years later. He dominated.
There is a reason that he was referred to as a genius.
Seeing all those pistols in one place is incredibly cool! I find these early self loaders to be much more interesting than the fairly boring hyper practicool super tacticool stuff we have today. I would buy registered stocked reproductions of all of these pistols (or I would if I had any money) (especially the C96).
Who remembers, the week of Bergmanns...
As soon as Ian mentioned Bergman it popped into my head.
That was wonderful week!
I thought of it as soon as this video popped up in my feed. 😉
Bergmania was running wild, brother!
The Bergman gospel... Yes, I remember those wonderful times.
I was just thinking about this yesterday. "What semiauto firearms could've existed in the 1870s?"
Now I know, so thank you Gun Jesus!
Do autorevolvers count? With the black powder issue, I think they would be your best bet. Of course those never really took off, but I suppose it's possible that they'd be a success in the absence of smokeless powder.
There were several double action revolvers back then. And frankly, DA revolvers are much better than most of these early semi autos.
I'm actually surprised how many there were. I knew of only about 5 of those
Still more than me :P
Ian did a whole series on the Bergman models. Some are amazing.
Excellent video!
Hope you'll bring something like this overview about other weapons: rifles, flintlocks, revolvers. I think that giving understanding of the weapon's evolution (with such a visualisation) is one of the strongest and most interesting part of your channel.
You upload a whole lot. You must have this recording/editing process down to a tee.
SeanoMcCool18 dont you appreciate his work i love it
Honestly I would love to know what the whole forgotten weapons team looks like
@@dfwai7589 you've seen it (hint - they are all in the video)
Having said that I think he may have recently hired someone, but very recently so most of the content is just him.
Actually his style of video don't require much editing. I think this video could be edited and uploaded in 1.5 hour time.
Phill Gizmo It would be simple to edit only by preparing so much that you can talk without stumbling for a long time. On a few videos you can see an edit where he uses multiple takes at the same angle, but it is pretty rare.
Colt .45 ACP works alright with black powder. Really early Mauser C96 pistols had tight locking bolts so, they required an explosive powder to get them to operate correctly. I possessed an early Mauser C96 pistol when I was younger and tried reloading with standard American powders and it would fail to function. Highly explosive factory ammunition functioned perfectly.
I've not to date, felt internet patreon was something worth consideration, I find Ian's quality, quantity on this special interest is worth some input. I'll think of it as the collection bow for the Messiahs new jet plane
....ticket.
this is possibly the coolest presentation I've ever seen in my life. fantastic job, Ian
That is simply a splendid and well put together display. Absolutely informative and succinct.
I have a small Berreta Minx that has no extractor. When I take the mag out of the gun and fire single shots the shell case jams in the action every other time. When I put the mag back in it ejects every time. It's clear that the mag plays a critical role in ejecting the case. I've always wondered if other non-extractor guns use the mag to push the case upward during recoil. If you have a non-extractor gun try using it without the nag and see if it jams.
Sounds like you need to clean and lube it once in awhile lol
Hell, a Glock will not eject 100% reliably without a magazine.
The gun jams the same way every time it jams without the mag. The slide comes back and the case moves to the right about a quarter inch and jams between the slide and barrel creating a sort of horizontal stovepipe condition.
JohnLeePedimore Yep, with no extractor to kick it to the side and no mag to kick it upwards (hopefully) over your head the case tries falling in the mag well and jams. Does the same thing with my Italian 4” Minx
Even some modern guns with extractors use the magazine lips as part of the ejection system. The Ruger 10/22 is one example.
Kickass elementary school presentation board.
12345NoNamesLeft I bet a parent did some work on it😝
looks like the coolest school project ever.
What a home run for a post! I was just discussing this subject with a friend so here comes a share! Just fantastic, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
*cue music: Lou Bega's "Bergmann No. 5"*;)
A little bit of Mauser in my life. Hehehe...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Little Jenny
"A little bit of Kalashnikov, twice as nice,
A little bit of Enfield's all I need,
A little bit of Springfield, baby please!"
HM The Tsar of Russia Nice job!!!! :)
Ok that was very cool of a collector to allow you to do that may this channel live long and continue to be the root of my morning edutainment.
Thank you this was a very interesting program. I don’t think I’ve seen such a presentation on auto loading pistols before. Great presentation.
What a great summary and comparison of 19th C Autopistols, Ian, with a real backdrop.
For me, this tied all the loose ends on your previous individual presentations.
You explained so well the reasons for adoption failure due to the shortcomings of gun and ammo, non-consistent manufacture, over this period. This is my second viewing and I pick up on something new each time.
Brilliant work -keep it up!
And they said Infinity War was the most ambitious crossover
Red dead redemption 2’s new DLC looks great
Ian be working as a consultant with Rockstar Games!
@@luckybassturd7260 It's too late, GTA: Online has pretty much guaranteed the ruination of all future Rockstar games.
@@Dedfaction Just chiming in to tell you that I dig your profile pic. Red Faction was one of my favorites as a kid.
I was skeptical, but the news today that Red Dead online won't be launching until November (after launch) and will be considered a separate product from single player gives me some hope that the single player experience might not have been tainted by GTA Online. Even red dead online is being touted as a smaller, less over-the-top experience with role playing and a focus on morality. We'll see if that's true or just some nice marketing talk, but if it is true, I might actually find myself playing Red Dead Online on a regular basis.
@@Cacowninja I wonder if Dice had some help from Ian for BF5! Plenty of odd weapons in the Beta such as the KE7, ZH29 and the Drilling.
Nice! Big thanks to the collector.
18:46 provenance close-up 😄
Props to whomever the collector was that set that up and let you film that. Looking forward to more videos!
I'm scared to think how much that wall cost...
That was a very interesting display and very informative presentation. Great thanks to whoever has managed to "collect the whole set" and who let you show it off,and to you for making this much more visible to the world.
Very interesting. Even modern ammo can have problems. The first time I had my Glock 22 to the range (Feb 2014) I had a box of Remington Green and White box jacketed hollow points. On around the 25th round I had a squib. Had to use a brass rode to beat the bullet out of the barrel. Shot the rest of the box and several more since and have had zero issues.
No idea how I missed this one untill now.
A spectacular collection and an excellent presentation. Thank you very much.
I literarily drooled a little. Amazing collection there and a remarkable opportunity to make this video. Really great!
Dude 800,000+ subs WOW good for you man I didn’t notice your boom I was around when you only had 500 subs. Proud of you
An absolutely amazing video Ian! Your channel is my favorite gun channel on UA-cam. Really my favorite of any channel gun or not. I love history and guns and you always deliver the information very well. Thank you for all the great videos!
Very informative, a similar board for the next decade (1901-1910) would likely also show a lot of changes and innovations.
That was when someone finally asked John Browning to make one....
Amazing display and collection. Thank you to the collector for sharing it with Ian and all of us!
These historical overviews are always my favourite videos. Great job as usual, Ian. Thanks.
All the knowledge and the amount of uploads is amazing nothing to compare with thanks for that. You really love what youre doing👍✌
Keep it up. The amount of content you put up is great!
I spent the whole video wondering why Ian hadn't told us which museum he was in. Then at the end, "the collector." That's a private collection? Not in an institution? Imagine having THAT over to one side of your living room or down in the basement den. That would be impressive scholarship and a praiseworthy level of display design at any firearms museum. That it belongs to a private collector (UNLESS he purchased it as is FROM a museum) is amazing.
Thank you Ian. Thanks to your work I knew all the pistols on that wall and remembered most of he videos you did on them.
great presentation!
I'd love to see some of these old looks come back
Semi auto pistol genesis story by gun jesus himself!!! Praise gun jesus!!!!
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@@PT-hk6jl u forgot nascar
Insane collection! Absolute dream of mine haha I love all the early semi-autos both pistols and rifles.
Thank you so much for correctly utilizing the term accurate, and correctly identifying that mass production in the late 1800's would be more able to hit the accuracy required.
A feat requiring precision, and so many people mix up precision with accuracy, its very frustrating as modern CNC machinery is often as, or less* precise in metal cutting.
(*Less because there just is not the need for tighter precision then accuracy on a CNC not so on a manual machine)
5:20 "Hello, Bergmann, my old friend; I've come to talk with you again."
I think it's very nice that you got access to something like that. Whomever collected those probably spent a small fortune and must be reluctant to just let anyone get near.
That's a very cool collection. It's neat to see the development of an idea from beginnings to maturity. Just having the idea isn't enough, you've got to be able to execute on it.
Very informative. Great overview of the early self loading pistols. Learned a quite a bit.
That Mannlicher M1899 presentation gun and its case are incredibly beautiful.
A truly excellent video Ian. I thought these were all your guns as we didn't start with "I'm at ... museum" etc. Well done sir!!
Thanks!
in the Schwarzlose m1898 section there is a typo, it should be "7.63 that fed through a detachable box magazine." Not that fed though a detachable box magazine.
Amazing presentation, just thought you would like to know since your the perfectionist you are, keep up the amazing work!
Whoever designed that display deserves a raise...I can't even get my goons to put things on the shelf straight.
Coming back to this video 4 years later, I'm surprised at how successful the Luger or Mauser was - being iterations of existing designs.
Impressive display. Thank you for bring it to the channel.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this INFORMATIVE, INTERESTING AND INSIGHTFUL VIDEO of early (pre-1900) semi-autos. I've had an Early C96 commercial pre-1915 (pre-NS) and at one time 3 P08's (1915 DWM, 1940 S/42 and commercial 1960's 1929 Swiss style (Original Mauser). GREAT PISTOLS from a LONG TIME AGO and somewhat FORGOTTEN.🤔😉😁👍😯😢
Yes now I don't have to answer questions about early semi-autos anymore! And by that I mean, now I only need to send them one link instead of ALL of the links. This video reminded me of the early Semi auto pistol video you posted 7 years ago. I still have a headache from the sound of the firing pins dropping.
always loved the way the Bergmann Schmeisser looked.
Nice video Ian! These early ones have always interested me.
Long video and I loved every minute of it, thanks Ian
Great history lesson. Always fascinating to see how very new technology goes through various design iterations until the more successful ones emerge and evolve until they eventually become the design paradigms for many decades.
Thanks Ian, some really beautiful guns!
I'd seen most of these at Lithgow, but not the history behind them. Great video. Any sort of fledgling technology is great to look back on, because you can really see them throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. Early aviation (both civil and military) was another treasure trove of engineering hilarity.
I love seeing the development of the technology over time. Super interesting thank you.
this is my favorite part of the Bible
My big pistol book has some awesome early semi's...they are beautiful pieces of engineering.
An amazing collection. I shudder at the cost of that display. lol
Educational, illuminating and complete, this is collection display at its very best!
Cool collection! I like hearing and seeing the timeline!
Is there a video presentation about prototype/concept pistol? The “great idea, poor carry through” Are the ones I can’t get enough of.
All of your videos are good, but this one is outstanding.
Thanks Ian. A lot of history concisely presented.
Well done lecture. Fantastic display. Thanks Ian
Thanks Ian, I really enjoyed this video.
i love long episodes
The bergmann pistols are gorgeous. I'd love a reproduction in a modern caliber.
got up early for this awesome presentation. the special ones are always so cool
wow this is fantastic! If only they could make an interactive version for your website or online consumption because I learned so much from this vid!
13:50 7.63 Mauser. The Tokarev is basically a slightly hopped up copy of this round. (So, you can fire Mauser in a Tokarev, but it's not recommended you fire Tokarev in a Mauser.) Incidentally, it's also competitive in terms of penetration with cartridges designed for armor piercing, like 5.7 FN, and 4.6 H&K. (Granted, with Soviet corrosive ammunition.) Not bad for a centuries old round.
@toeff7852 Also, sometimes the Mauser lacks the recoil to reliably cycle some actions.
@toeff7852 Yeah, but if you reload Mauser to Tokarev pressures, then you basically made a weak walled Tokarev. I mostly reloaded straight rimmed cases, like the .357 family.
@toeff7852 GTK! If I ever get set up for reloading that, I've heard a lot of good things about Fiochi before. Like I said, I mostly reloaded .38/357 for target shooting. I had a great "Soup can" wadcutter for defense too, but I only had to use it once. Shattered his pelvis, took the fight right out of him. I even got off on Self Defense, they dropped the Attempted Murder, because it was a sub-lethal shot, with "Target loads." They didn't break the (.357) shells apart to see the powder load, or how deep the 215 grain bullets went, but I originally made them emulate the muzzle energy of the .45 with a flatter trajectory for Bowling Pin, and Sillhouettes. Those pills hit like a lead soup can too!
@toeff7852 Handjoint? I'm not familiar with that term.
@toeff7852 Wrist. How did my wrist handle the recoil? Very well, .357 isn't really that hardcore, and the grip I had on my revolver really helped as well. A lot better than a 1911 .45, which presumably has the same recoil impulse.
If that's a personal collection and not a museum display that's an impressive collection.
What a terrific collection of history and knowledge.
If the gun has a picture of the gun itself on the grips, you know you've got something.
I must say, the 1890s were a revolutionary time for handgun development going leaps and bounds with every few years a new interesting and totally different model coming out.
its interesting that very few industrial manufacturers got into the business until really the very end of the century or the 1900's, it was lots of little guys with maybe some friends that had some money, it wasn't till like the mauser that people woke up and realized there was a lot of money to be had here.
This video is awesome! Im working on a fantasy setting with pre ww1 flavor and have been going through your vids for inspiration on the small arms. So this vid was perfect :D
The ultimate school science fair board.
OMG I found the motherload of cool historical guns in one presentation............the video that got me to subscribe although I had watched prolly half his video uploads by now. Such good content if you like gun history or the engineering of guns or if your a nerd like me and just find this kinda machinery evolution stuff enthralling.
WOW! Ian, another fantastic episode. Something you point out, and something some younger viewers might have a hard time understanding, these inventors didn't have CAD. All they had was their knowledge and imagination.
They had technical draughtsmanship, technical drawing tools and blueprinting, just as did the later designers of multi barrel cannon and Moon rockets.
Little Timmy in the next cubby over with the volcano model his mom helped him make is so pissed.
Oh man, those pistols with the shoulder stock are sweet. Would love to have a wall full of pistols with shoulder stocks.
Dang. Do you have guards around that display when it's in public? Very professional looking execution.
JC Penney sold those surplus Turkish broomhandles and Hakim rifles. They were all in only fair shape but I wanted one of those pistols. Unfortunately it was hard for a seven year old to come up with $125 in those days.
We need a series of DVDs from you, Ian. That or some kind of for-sale read-only hard drive with all your work on it, just in case UA-cam decides to shut you down for some silly reason.