Labocosmetica 3PH Soap System Explained! DEEP CLEAN YOUR CAR!

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  • @PanTheOrganizer
    @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +3

    🔥 For more quality detailing products visit: tinyurl.com/bdehsjys
    ⬇️🔶 LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO ⬇️⬇️
    🇺🇸 For people in USA:
    Labocosmetica Primus 2.0 (alkaline snow foam): bit.ly/3BuMb8c
    Labocosmetica Primus 2.0 (alkaline snow foam): goaff.pro/tgfgpz
    Labocosmetica Purifica (acid soap): bit.ly/4gROP84
    Labocosmetica Purifica (acid soap): goaff.pro/mlvkae
    Labocosmetica Semper (pH neutral soap): bit.ly/3NbBCcG
    Labocosmetica Semper (pH neutral soap): goaff.pro/wgarqq
    McKee’s Hydro Graphene Ceramic Coating: amzn.to/3PW5vQ1
    CarPro Lift: bit.ly/47Pmqvr
    CarPro Lift: bit.ly/46kSh4I
    CarPro Descale: bit.ly/3ZKAynL
    CarPro Descale: bit.ly/3PJn8md
    CarPro Reset: bit.ly/49QY4lB
    Koch Chemie Active Foam: bit.ly/3VFB6JE
    Koch Chemie Reactivation Shampoo: bit.ly/3VHXS3p
    Koch Chemie Gsf: bit.ly/3VGR5Hc
    Pressure washer: bit.ly/3MgYINZ
    Gun & wand: bit.ly/3EBUZbI
    🇨🇦 For people in Canada:
    Labocosmetica Canada official website: goaff.pro/nvghxa
    Labocosmetica Primus 2.0 (alkaline snow foam): tinyurl.com/4t53f2sw
    Labocosmetica Purifica (acid soap): tinyurl.com/ycyfaff8
    Labocosmetica Semper (pH neutral soap): tinyurl.com/3k9c3wh3
    McKee’s Hydro Graphene Ceramic Coating: bit.ly/40m8AME
    CarPro Lift: bit.ly/3RWXwkA
    CarPro Descale: bit.ly/3xe1jES
    CarPro Reset: bit.ly/49fgUCf
    Koch Chemie Active Foam: bit.ly/3VqeKcz
    Koch Chemie Reactivation Shampoo: bit.ly/3TWYtwS
    Koch Chemie Gsf: bit.ly/3QJgKZG
    🇬🇧 For people in the UK: bit.ly/3fgoENJ
    Labocosmetica Primus 2.0 (alkaline snow foam): bit.ly/49y4Aw6
    Labocosmetica Purifica (acid soap): bit.ly/4aM82nT
    Labocosmetica Semper (pH neutral soap): bit.ly/3TRtfG5
    CarPro Lift: bit.ly/4as7wvz
    CarPro Descale: bit.ly/3UDhaGR
    CarPro Reset: bit.ly/3VUjUQz
    Koch Chemie Active Foam: bit.ly/3OBdL7g
    Koch Chemie Reactivation Shampoo: bit.ly/3vN5gjt
    Koch Chemie Gsf: bit.ly/47tNYoa
    🇦🇺 For people in Australia: bit.ly/4cbR1VP
    🇫🇷 For people in France:
    Labocosmetica Primus 2.0 (alkaline snow foam): c3po.link/QtzRJRutTF
    Labocosmetica Purifica (acid soap): c3po.link/QxdatVJUjH
    Labocosmetica Semper (pH neutral soap): c3po.link/QWyKECV2n9

  • @Ecdetails
    @Ecdetails 8 місяців тому +39

    Thanks for the shoutout Pan I appreciate you. And love the explanation of how to use!

  • @ThisOldDetailingDude
    @ThisOldDetailingDude 8 місяців тому +12

    3Ph system! None better! We use this before EVERY ceramic coating ever since last year after training with Reggy Cox( phenomenal trainer). Makes the entire prep for ceramic coating so easy!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Well said Tim!

    • @TheAlmightySushi
      @TheAlmightySushi 6 місяців тому +1

      can this replace claying for a general consuming? I don't want to fiddle with claying and polishing on my own, but want to deep clean before applying sealant.

    • @ThisOldDetailingDude
      @ThisOldDetailingDude 6 місяців тому

      @@TheAlmightySushiYes! That is the beauty of the 3ph system. No iron remover required. You can still clay if you want or need.

  • @archiepezek
    @archiepezek 8 місяців тому +10

    Pan, your videos are always more thorough and contain more description and detail of products than anyone else. Thanks for your work.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +2

      Thank you! I appreciate the positive feedback. :)

  • @madspencer48
    @madspencer48 8 місяців тому +3

    Literally the BEST detailing channal ever thank you for all the amazing work. From England

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Spencer, I appreciate it! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on UA-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 135 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
      You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

  • @JamieTheCleaner
    @JamieTheCleaner 8 місяців тому +8

    Best Soap in the Game 🎉 yeah their labels have problems 😂 great vid Pan!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Hehe thanks brother! Have a great weekend!

  • @domenicobizzarro839
    @domenicobizzarro839 8 місяців тому

    I told you months ago to review some Labocosmetica products and I m glad to see them finally on your Channel. Purifica Is the best acidic shampoo on the market

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      It's pretty good indeed!

    • @domenicobizzarro839
      @domenicobizzarro839 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer you should try ENERGO. I should Say Is the best water spot and mineral remover. It saved me from critical situations that seemed impossible to descale. I m not saying Just cause I m italian and live close to the Company, but Labo has a great competitive line

  • @christianlucas6553
    @christianlucas6553 8 місяців тому

    Pan, i think i will wait until the Annual Awards to make a switch. I am currently using all Car Pro Wash Products, and they have never let me down. They are very consistent, and they never let me down!
    Always a pleasure seeing new products hit the market, but to date, nothing really beats my Car Pro Products! Like you, i use Reset twice a week 👌

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Yeah, you already have the good stuff, so no worries there! ;)

  • @ThibaultxDxCx
    @ThibaultxDxCx 8 місяців тому

    My car is ceramic coated, I wash my car every 2 to 4 weeks with their products. I do use semper every time in my bucket. Once my car is dry (dry it with water then towel), then I use their quick detailer called perfecta (2 cloth method). Very satisfied seeing the hydrophobic properties return on the lower sides of the car once I follow these steps.

  • @georgemicha6756
    @georgemicha6756 8 місяців тому

    YES! There are not many 3PH videos online. Good to see Pan has done it. It’s a very interesting method that deserves some reviews. Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @TRD1309
    @TRD1309 8 місяців тому +1

    Pan great video as always. I saw this line on Eddies channel back in Jan. Tried it and fell in love with all three soaps. I tested Purifica against car pro descale and found it work just as good or better.

  • @luigichiappetta7363
    @luigichiappetta7363 8 місяців тому +2

    Excellent review ! I can confirm these products are worth the money and now my go to wash system

  • @danielarseneau6082
    @danielarseneau6082 8 місяців тому +1

    Once again Pan , I’m a weekend warrior using these products and recently Labo and again you’ve answered all my questions

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the positive feedback. I always try to be thorough in my explanations so viewers can understand everything about the products. :)

  • @DrivewayDetailswithBecca
    @DrivewayDetailswithBecca 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video and explanation! Way to go Eddie for hooking Pan up! I love all these guys… looking forward to the rinseless 3ph system as well. Happy Weekend!

  • @davestewart9146
    @davestewart9146 8 місяців тому +2

    A product that I had no idea existed, great explanation on how to use it, thanks Pan 👍😁

  • @davefgs2399
    @davefgs2399 8 місяців тому +3

    Nice to see my local products making a return 😄
    Extra note, Labo is now making some sort of 3ph for waterless/rinseless washes

  • @LegendFlower
    @LegendFlower 6 місяців тому

    Hey Pan, would you be able to do an updated brand review on Labocosmetica? I have picked up most of their products and they have replaced almost all my chemicals! Hopefully they make to the 2024 awards! Love the brand and their dedication to effective and extremely safe products. GANGSTER LEVEL!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  6 місяців тому

      If I get enough viewer requests for an update, I'll look into it for sure.

  • @davidboyce6427
    @davidboyce6427 8 місяців тому +2

    Pan I have the same APP. It also does the Panel Impact Ratio for those like me figuring out Bilt Hamber products 👀👌

  • @calebgendron15
    @calebgendron15 8 місяців тому +3

    Merci d’avoir fait un vidéo que j’ai suggérer Pan!! You’re the best! 🤝

  • @rudicompte9219
    @rudicompte9219 8 місяців тому

    Congrats Pan , it is fantastic. no more words , fantastic and always great content and honestly.🎉

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson 8 місяців тому +5

    The instructions on the Primus are so complicated because it can be used in so many ways, pre wash, shampoo, show foam, apc and as a wheel cleaner

  • @scootytamra
    @scootytamra 8 місяців тому

    I watch Eddie and Jamie as well, and i want to try the 2PH system for seats and carpets using Labocosmetica Glico and Ductile, i just bought all i need, so it'll be interesting to see how it all does on my car seats and carpets. Thanks for showing the 3PH system for the outside of the vehicle, it got Isabelle's car clean and sparkly.

  • @ThomasLaberge-v7p
    @ThomasLaberge-v7p 8 місяців тому

    I use those product everyday I they are amazing. Interior product are next level!

  • @vincentfontanez9334
    @vincentfontanez9334 8 місяців тому +2

    Nice vid, Pan have you considered doing a vid on Vonixx?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      If I get enough viewer requests for the brand, I'll look into it.

    • @DetailsNMe
      @DetailsNMe 8 місяців тому

      I second this!!

  • @slickrick1636
    @slickrick1636 6 місяців тому

    Absolutely amazing result!! Crazy what dwell time and right chemicals can do. Question for you Mr. Pan
    My vehicle gets washed every week with Labocosmetica Idrosave. Love the product! A1 results. Just ordered the 3ph system. How often would you recommend me doing this style of wash given that my car gets washed weekly.
    Thank you in advance! Your channel is amazing and keep up tied good work!!
    Cheers from Texas!!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  6 місяців тому

      For regular weekly washes, pH neutral is all you need. Perhaps once every other month, use the 3PH for a deeper clean, and to remove accumulated road film and minerals. Or when you see the hydrophobic properties of your coating starting to diminish, revive it with the 3PH system.
      Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on UA-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 145 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
      You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

  • @anton8446
    @anton8446 8 місяців тому

    Finally!! )) I’m using exactly this method and exactly this stuff around 2 years long. Will be interesting to hear a profi’s thoughts and tips

  • @79blustone
    @79blustone 8 місяців тому

    I've been doing this biannual maintenance wash for years. Bilt Hamber touch-less then a waterspot remover, then a pH neutral wash afterwards to make sure all of the acids and alkaline is cleared. I never do this more then twice a year as I want to conserve my coatings. I've replaced a water spot remover with Carpro Descale when it appeared a couple of years ago.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah when I do deeper cleanings especially at the beginning of spring, I love a multi-pH system.

  • @James_Z-777
    @James_Z-777 7 місяців тому

    Great job as always Pan. I used the Adam's Advanced Graphene on my truck a year ago. Like your girlfriend's SUV, my truck sits outside in the elements in Nebraska (bitter cold winters to super hot and humid summers). I still get amazing, super-tight beading on the horizontal surfaces--even when there is a layer of dust or road grime! However, I am also noticing a bit of breakdown on the vertical panels. Two other notes: 1. The Adam's Graphene shampoo is super slick; but it seems I cannot dry fast enough to keep from getting spots. 2. I've been using Griot's Ceramic Speed Shine as a drying aid and topper. It seems to help, but I don't think it lasts very long. I'd be curious if you have used it; and if not, would be willing to test it.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  7 місяців тому

      I haven't used that Griot's product yet. But if you notice diminishing hydrophobics on panels, most likely the coating is clogged. So you could do a 2PH system first: alkaline pre-wash snow foam, then acidic soap for the contact wash. See if that restored it. It should be a noticeable improvement (assuming the coating was properly applied, and it hasn't failed).
      The next step after that, that can also help to revive clogged coatings, is a mineral deposit remover like this: bit.ly/3UO1UX4
      Wash the car first, then apply the water spot remover, work it in with a microfiber towel, and thoroughly rinse. At that point, I'd wash the car again to make sure you neutralize any residue and observe the results.
      Your coating might also need claying. Don't use traditional claybars as those are abrasive, but use a synthetic perforated decontamination towel like this instead: bit.ly/3WsWdPJ
      I hope this helps!

    • @James_Z-777
      @James_Z-777 6 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer A bit late on the reply; but THANKS! I'll definitely try the 2PH system. I've used CarPro Lift as a Snow Foam; but usually follow with a PH-neutral shampoo. I'll order some Descale and try following the Lift with that. Since I have a constant battle with water spots--even with the Advanced Graphene--the mineral deposit remover might be an important add. Thanks again for taking the time to interact with your fans.

  • @user-un1ek3iz6k
    @user-un1ek3iz6k 5 місяців тому

    Pan - What an absolute splendid review and instructional video of these products and how and when to use them properly. You are the man! BTW, have you ever used or reviewed any of the Fireball detail products like their Pearl shampoo or their PH3 shampoo?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! I did a Fireball products review years ago but did not have that specific soap.

  • @bryanvlogs1421
    @bryanvlogs1421 8 місяців тому +1

    You Got both their Healthy side lol 😂good Demo! thanks Pan.

  • @domenicobizzarro839
    @domenicobizzarro839 8 місяців тому

    And you should review the new rinseless/waterless 3ph line from Labocosmetica with PRELUDIO ALCALINE, PRELUDIO ACIDIC and IDROSAVE neutral

  • @SDEsthetiqueAutomobile
    @SDEsthetiqueAutomobile 8 місяців тому

    Enfin Pan ! J’avais hâte que tu fasses des tests de produits de labocosmetica ❤️

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      J'avais déjà fait une vidéo sur la gamme il y a plusieurs années aussi. :)

  • @donaldpritchett4055
    @donaldpritchett4055 8 місяців тому

    A great video as always. This is a brand that I've never heard of before. I appreciated you showing the Koch Chemie and CarPro equivalents. I just ordered Gyeon Leather after watching your video and see that they have a new product I'd like to see you test- Total Remover, which is supposed to remove old waxes, sealants and coatings - how do they do this since coatings are pretty chemically resistant?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Thanks Donald! For the Total Remover, I'm not sure it would fully remove a true ceramic coating unless the coating is in its last days of durability, or perhaps remove a high spot to a point where you can re-coat over it. Gyeon gave more details about Total Remover in a recent video on their Instagram page, should you want to learn more.

  • @JustS0meNO0b
    @JustS0meNO0b 8 місяців тому

    this whole video pushes me to idea that you have to do this, I got a question: if you do rinseless wash with iron decon and clay towel, do you remove everything including waxes and stuff so its ready for polishing and ceramic coating? thats what I was about to do but dont want to mess things up

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      A ceramic coating absolutely needs to bond to a clean, decontaminated and virgin clear coat, meaning no protection left on the surface, so the coating can bond directly to the clear coat. And the only way to ensure 100% removal of any paint protection is by machine polishing. Hence why you typically always see people polish the paint before applying a coating. After polishing, you use a paint prep spray to remove polishing oils, and then you apply the ceramic coating.
      See how I fully detail cars A to Z in videos below:
      RS6 Avant Performance: ua-cam.com/video/L5SQ0ZIJCj0/v-deo.htmlsi=mcQiMs9HBLlaqjGK
      Mercedes S 580: ua-cam.com/video/Vq_tfcwryVI/v-deo.htmlsi=whord2_UEFSg28UW
      Aston Martin Vantage: ua-cam.com/video/OKga3yZVTqo/v-deo.html
      Volvo XC60: ua-cam.com/video/tvDBBenhYFA/v-deo.html
      Tesla Model Y: ua-cam.com/video/gohks8xP5NY/v-deo.html
      Porsche 911 Carrera: ua-cam.com/video/2ckiivbFqs4/v-deo.html
      Audi Q7: ua-cam.com/video/t7HCBSVnizM/v-deo.html

  • @찌오쿤
    @찌오쿤 5 місяців тому

    This is amazing carwash system.
    Italian guys really brilliant!, also the 3pH system is really popular in KOREA!
    but some car wash companies copy the 3pH system, their product is shit, just copy things.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  5 місяців тому

      Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on UA-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 145 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
      You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

  • @Simply_GenX
    @Simply_GenX 8 місяців тому

    Another fantastic video and very informative. I’m a DIYer just starting out and want to keep things very simple. This 3PH system seems to be a good option. I live in the Toronto area. How often do you think the first two steps should be done compared to the last neutral wash for maintenance? Any recommendations on intervals for when all 3 steps should be applied vs just the neutral wash? Thanks again for all your great content.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Once every season is a good standard. And you can do this if you feel the vehicle has accumulated lots of grime and road film. So for regular weekly washes, stick to a pH neutral soap. And when you feel the coating isn't beading as it should, perhaps try the 2PH system (low pH snow foam followed by acidic hand wash) and then see if the hydrophobic properties were restored.

  • @BLACKWING008
    @BLACKWING008 8 місяців тому +1

    Hey Pan would you please do a review on Carpro Dquartz ceramic coating 😊

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      If I get enough viewer requests for it, I'll look into it for sure.

  • @michaelgillot8690
    @michaelgillot8690 8 місяців тому

    Ce sont de très bons produits que j utilise ; merci pour cette vidéo. (Je regrette que vous ne faites plus de vidéos en français ; mais cela ne m empêche pas de vous suivre 👍)

  • @Riverguide33
    @Riverguide33 8 місяців тому

    Great review, Pan…learned a lot! 👍

  • @CardiLucianoOTF
    @CardiLucianoOTF 8 місяців тому

    I also saw someone put the purification in a ik sprayer then spray the vehicle and use the semper as a bucket wash

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Yes you can use Purifica in a foaming pump sprayer (same 1:10 dilution). But that video you saw was the older method. The new Purifica allows you to use it in the bucket, wash the car, and no need to neutralize with Semper afterwards. :)

  • @tds4018
    @tds4018 8 місяців тому +1

    I hope you test olso the new 3ph rinseless system by labocosmetica (idrosave, preludio acidic, preludio alkaline)

  • @ericwright1075
    @ericwright1075 8 місяців тому

    Pan, washing a car is getting sooo complicated. I will stick with my Adams shampoo and my new find Stoners Ceramic Hybrid detailer. Just a suggestion , do a test of this detailer. 🇨🇦👍👍

  • @michaelb.5492
    @michaelb.5492 8 місяців тому

    Great tutorial on Labocosmetica's Primus 2.0. Also just listened to you and Matt Morgan's podcast, " What am I missing in my detailing process?" I enjoy it when you two take a deep dive into a products chemistry and the back stories.
    I also prefer to foam and rinse bottom up. I feel this gives foams more contact time as is slides from upper areas (glass) downward over lower panels for second contact. Bottom up rinsing also allows me to see where to pressure-washer rinse reducing missed spots.
    Question, do you know Bob Hoyle at Chem-X, and Chem-X pre-wash and touchless soap foams? Was wondering if worth exploring further. Seems his expertise is detailing commercial vehicles, and industrial equipment. In the last your or so Chem-X has been marketing to Recreational RVs, trailers, and offroad vehicles. The two stage "Stars & Stips", pH 3, and pH 13 respectively, claim is the doul stage process breaks the static bond of the dust and road film from surface, allowing the pressure-washer rinse to remove more grime than a single stage pre-wash or touchless application, and also results in a neutral pH application. He suggests following up with an Si02 foam and rise; Chem-X recommends using their "Snake Oil."

  • @Archeagle
    @Archeagle 8 місяців тому

    Yes, Labocosmetica ;) bien content que tu ais fait un video sur ces produits. Super qualité. Apres ton pré-wash je pensais que tu allais nous montrer le résultat de son efficacité si il restait pas mal de saletés. Et le rinsage de bas en haut c'est quoi à ton avis le but stipulé par Labocosmetica? Il me sble quensa prend plus d'eau par lavage si on doit quand même repasser sur la.zome bas pour bien rinser. Je dois me faire une commande bientot et ca va entrer dans mon arsenal c'est assuré. ;) passes une belle fin de semaine et continue ton exceptionnel travail. Toujours un plaisir d'écouter tes videos mon chum!

  • @Boodieman72
    @Boodieman72 4 місяці тому

    There is also Revitax which can replace the Semper and adds some protection.

  • @YunboLi
    @YunboLi 8 місяців тому

    thank you for your video Pan! Can I just put the purifica in the Sprayer just like Marolex bottle to do a acid pre-wash?😊

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Yes. Labocosmetica have many videos on their channel showing how to do all this.

  • @vaughnoliver2810
    @vaughnoliver2810 8 місяців тому

    Great informative video Pan.

  • @ad166bt
    @ad166bt 8 місяців тому

    Thanks as always great video Pan. Considering Labocosmetica I think is now available in North America, I would be interested in a review of their rinseless wash IDROSAVE as I have seen some good reviews about it. Asking because thats the only rinseless I could source locally. Thank you and keep it up!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      It’s awesome. I speak about it in this video: ua-cam.com/video/jZx13HEwVac/v-deo.htmlsi=eTYtLo4Is15359ST

  • @hippopotimusstew
    @hippopotimusstew 8 місяців тому +1

    Labocosmetica is so good

  • @alfistaalfista4062
    @alfistaalfista4062 7 місяців тому

    Super, merci Pan . Dommage qu'elle ne soit pas en français, difficile de traduire 😊 je vais essayer les produits labocosmetica (j'ai hâte) après avoir vu ta vidéo 👍

  • @reguengos15
    @reguengos15 7 місяців тому

    Pretty sure Koch Chemie has VDA classifications in many of their products right now, for example in the Alkalines, GS is class A VDA, which is amazing, they have others like Pfe and Vb but, depending on dilution, are class B (conforming to VDA, should have a max reaction time of 1 min) or class A in very high dilutions.

  • @tee2008j
    @tee2008j 8 місяців тому

    Pan how is it on Vinyl wrap or PPF? great review its much appreciated...

    • @TheBreakfastLover
      @TheBreakfastLover 8 місяців тому +1

      Vinyl and PPF tend to be more chemically susceptible (especially when not ceramic coated), so acidic and alkaline solutions should be avoided.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      I don't have the answer to that unfortunately.

    • @tee2008j
      @tee2008j 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer ok appreciated

  • @Boss260-
    @Boss260- 8 місяців тому +9

    Please review Chem x products

  • @katherineduranleau4321
    @katherineduranleau4321 8 місяців тому

    Hey Pan another awesome video !!! Is it safe for me to use iron remover on my ceramic coated car I do it once a year…. Is that ok to do ?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Katherine! Yes it's safe to use an iron remover on ceramic coatings. It's actually recommended to do so as part of regular maintenance, and should be done once every 3-4 months, or as needed depending on your level of brake dust contamination.
      Keep in mind iron removers are typically pH neutral in the bottle, and only become slightly acidic when the chemical reaction happens on the surface (exothermic reaction). Ceramic coatings have a very strong resistance to chemicals (usually pH 3 to 12) so an iron remover is no problem for a coating.

  • @rongriguts9429
    @rongriguts9429 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pan! Hope you're well. Quick question again: What's a good Foaming Hand Pump Sprayer that I see you often use on wheels? Preferably something that's more budget friendly.

  • @rajpatel3513
    @rajpatel3513 8 місяців тому

    Amazing Pan 🙌

  • @Meirion658
    @Meirion658 3 місяці тому

    Hi there are these safe on light ceramic coating such as Can Coat ?

  • @kennethbascom5023
    @kennethbascom5023 8 місяців тому

    Great review thank you pan

  • @jameslau80
    @jameslau80 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pan~ thanks for the video. May I ask if I still need to perform iron and tar removal apart from using 3ph decon wash method??
    Thanks in advance

  • @StephaneBrosseau
    @StephaneBrosseau 8 місяців тому

    Bonjour Pan,
    Je suis un grand fan de tes vidéos. Pourquoi n’en fais tu pas plus en français. Pourquoi ne pas parlé de produit du Quebec, comme SIVERWAX. Je ne travaille pas pour eux, mais j’ai acheté à quelque reprises leur produit et ils me semblent faire la job.
    Merci encore pour tes précieux conseils qui m’aide à bien entretenir mon véhicule d’été que je chéri
    Au plaisir
    Stephane

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Salut Stéphane.
      Bienvenue sur ma chaîne! Tu as découvert l’une des plus grosses chaînes de detailing sur UA-cam alors que nous avons surpassé 1 million d’abonnés et 135 millions de visionnements.
      Ça fait plus de 27 ans que je fais de l’esthétique de voitures et j’adore partager mes connaissances et ma passion avec mes auditeurs!
      Pour répondre à ta première question, il m'est rendu impossible de produire des versions bilingues pour chaque vidéo malheureusement. Une seule vidéo peut prendre 10 à 15 heures à produire, alors tout recommencer en double à chaque fois est impensable. Aussi, 90% de mes auditeurs sont anglophones, donc mettre 100% d'efforts et d'énergie pour 10% des résultats en français n'est pas viable.
      Il faut garder en tête que je ne suis pas le seul UA-camur à parler plus d'une langue, et pourtant, je suis le seul à produire des vidéos bilingues. Ça démontre à quel point ce n'est pas aussi facile qu'on pense produire des vidéos UA-cam.
      C'est la chose la plus difficile que j'ai faite dans ma vie bâtir cette chaîne. Un effort surhumain de près de 8 ans pour se rendre à ce point. Je n'ai jamais manqué une seule semaine d'afficher des vidéos depuis la création de ma chaîne.
      Ceci étant dit, je continuerai à produire des vidéos françaises lorsque possible. Merci de ta compréhension.
      Pour répondre à ta deuxième question sur les produits Silverwax, ils sont '"corrects" mais sans plus. Il y a beaucoup mieux dans leur catégorie selon moi. De plus, un très petit pourcentage de mes abonnés sont du Québec, alors il y aurait un désintéressement total de mon auditoire si je parlais de ces produits. Plus de 60% de mon auditoire est des États-Unis. J'essaie d'adapter mon contenue pour la majorité de mes auditeurs.
      Ce n'est vraiment pas facile produire des vidéos UA-cam. C'est en fait la chose la plus difficile que j'ai fait dans toute ma vie. Plus de huit ans sur UA-cam et près de 1000 vidéos. Chaque vidéo prend 10-15 heures à produire. C'est fou toute l'énergie qu'il faut et le temps qu'il faut y mettre.

  • @ssjcajas
    @ssjcajas 8 місяців тому

    I was thinking about doing a 3ph wash with either Labo or P&S Crystal Wash and Frostbite. I need to see which will be more cost effective.

  • @MrHansonng
    @MrHansonng 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pan, can I use this on Matte paint with ceramic coating and how often should I use the alkaline and acid wash?

  • @keithbowman4534
    @keithbowman4534 8 місяців тому

    My dad’s van has been undercoated from Rust Check and the oil is on the body. Would this be good to break it down? No coating on it and would this eliminate clay bar a vehicle? Thanks Pan, great video!!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      This is a good way to remove most of that oils but a contact wash will also be important.
      And no this doesn’t replace the clay bar. For embedded contamination you still need iron removers and clay bars.

  • @mikenewell5683
    @mikenewell5683 8 місяців тому

    I have graphene flex wax (turtle wax)on my car. Im guessing these soaps are ok to use for flex wax?

  • @YZERPLAN
    @YZERPLAN 8 місяців тому

    Hey Pan, fellow Montrealer here 🙏🏻👍🏻. Love your videos, very informative for a newbie like myself 😂. I going to start rinseless washing for my sons and my car once a week since I don’t have access to water as I live in an appartement. If you had to choose one brand which would it be? I’m stuck between DIY and ARMOUR 🤷🏻‍♂️.
    TIA

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on UA-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 135 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
      You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.
      DIY and Hero are both top tier. You really can’t go wrong. Pick the one that is less expensive for you to purchase.

    • @YZERPLAN
      @YZERPLAN 8 місяців тому

      Thank you, greatly appreciated. Can I mix rinseless with Amplify drying aid or is it better to keep within the same brand? Also, any chance of scratching or marring my white paint on a Toyota RAV4 prime if I take my time and be careful? Thanks again, greatly appreciated ✌🏻🙏🏻

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      If you clean your car with a rinseless wash, from any brand, yes you can use Amplify on top as a drying aid and gloss/slickness booster, no problem.
      With a rinseless wash method, you must use common sense. If it's super dirty, you have to pre-rinse the vehicle first. See my rinseless wash tutorial here: ua-cam.com/video/p58Y5qRd3OU/v-deo.htmlsi=T6LCUJkp_supPWlp

    • @YZERPLAN
      @YZERPLAN 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer thank you 🙏🏻

  • @petersursaenke7193
    @petersursaenke7193 8 місяців тому

    Their 3PH wash is brilliant but I am an even bigger fan of their new 2PH wash since Primus v2 came out. Check it out.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      This is Primus 2.0 in this video, and I do explain why it became a 2PH system, as you don't need to neutralize with Semper at the end of the wash process with Purifica. ;)

    • @petersursaenke7193
      @petersursaenke7193 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer ua-cam.com/video/HJewH701kBM/v-deo.htmlsi=EgSA723EwN-LBNHH
      😎

  • @paulclaeys7631
    @paulclaeys7631 6 місяців тому

    Hi Pan!! I bought Primus 2.0 & Purifica last week! But after inspection I saw I received the original Purifica, not the update... does everything (dilutions and stuff) still apply? I checked their video on the 3PH system and the dilutions seems off compared to the new update... any help appreciated! I don't mind using the original version 👍🏻

  • @malachi2371
    @malachi2371 6 місяців тому

    I ordered all the shampoos except for Semper. Any What would be the reason to buy it over the turtle wax slick and slide?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  6 місяців тому +1

      No you’re fine with the TW for the pH neutral. 👍🏻

  • @mateuszukasiak7675
    @mateuszukasiak7675 8 місяців тому

    What products and process would you recommend to deal with bugs on the road so that wipers would get them?
    So far Glaco Ultra plus summer/winter wiper fluid do not work well for me.

  • @lennard9903
    @lennard9903 7 місяців тому

    Hi Pan! Is the dilution the same in a Foam sprayer as in a Foam canon? I read something like in a Foam sprayer you divide it by 10 what they say on the bottle?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  7 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/eDPIMxPvmQA/v-deo.htmlsi=zkf4UXpxumiOsAWJ

    • @lennard9903
      @lennard9903 5 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizerThanks Pan! I use it 1:10 now in a hand foam sprayer. I love the 3 ph was so much 🤩

  • @GoTMLGo1967
    @GoTMLGo1967 8 місяців тому

    So would this be an alternative to using bug and tsar remover and water spot remover? Or would those be still needed

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      This would be a good alternative for light cases of bugs and water spots. If you have stubborn water spots that were left unattended for a long time, a water spot remover is still needed. And if you have bug guts that have been there a while and started caking and baking onto the paint, a bug remover is also needed.

  • @jeepguylv80
    @jeepguylv80 8 місяців тому

    Hey Pan, I forget, did you use the Adams on the plastics as well? if not, what product did you use? looks like it's holding up well. thanks

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah the Adam’s Advanced Graphene Ceramic Coating was applied to paint, plastic trim, lights and windshield. It only lasted a few months on the windshield so I applied Soft99 Ultra Glaco on the windshield.

    • @jeepguylv80
      @jeepguylv80 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer awesome, thanks Pan

  • @Bearwalkr
    @Bearwalkr 8 місяців тому

    Hello. How often do I need the do an alkaline and acid wash compare to "regular" wash?

  • @devonthetrain12
    @devonthetrain12 8 місяців тому

    I know you are a big numbers guy Pan so how much would you say a maintenance wash or decontamination wash with Labo would cost? I currently have the system and I am loving it just curious how much money I'm spending every time I use it. I know it depends on the dilution but let's say the cost of the lowest dilution and the cost of the highest 😊 thanks for breaking everything down 🙌🏼

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      I'm never on a budget, so that is of no concern to me. I just use things, and buy things as needed. And I also don't know where you live, so prices vary depending on what country you live in.
      Also, you wouldn't be using this system for every regular weekly or bi-weekly wash. Once a month perhaps, or once every other month when you need a deeper decon wash.
      For regular weekly washes, all you need is a pH neutral soap, and that's 1-2$ per wash on the higher end of the scale. Nothing significant. So just enjoy the process. ;)
      You'd have to do some match and calculations to see what the cost would be like for every wash, also depending on how much you put in the foam cannon and in the bucket if you want to do a deeper dive.

    • @devonthetrain12
      @devonthetrain12 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer Well I live in the US just curious what a decon wash would cost me if I used it before a customer coating or something. Thanks for helping me with what you can tho 👍🏼😁

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      No worries! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on UA-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 135 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
      You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

  • @rapidnsk1478
    @rapidnsk1478 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pan, why haven't you tested the Australian brand nxtzen? It will be interesting to hear your opinion about this product.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      I haven’t heard about them and no viewers showed interest.

    • @rapidnsk1478
      @rapidnsk1478 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer Former OРT distributor Joel Blake, created his own brand. Compositions with an updated formula have a high concentration, like OРT. There are also several types of ceramic coatings in the line.

  • @hp-je1cy
    @hp-je1cy 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pan do you plan on reviewing Autoglym products (such Super Resin Polish and UHD wax) they are very popular here in the UK?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      They aren't as popular in North America, but if I get enough viewer requests for them one day, I'll look into it.

    • @hp-je1cy
      @hp-je1cy 8 місяців тому

      @PanTheOrganizer thanks for responding and also thanks for what you do your videos are so helpful (I like to look after my car and I've learned a lot from your videos)

  • @LAMMROD_
    @LAMMROD_ 5 місяців тому

    Is there a specific reason for the order of the washes? For example could I use the acid wash first then the alkaline wash second?
    I know in the carpet cleaning world they pretreat with an alkaline solution then extract with an acid rinse. It seems similar.
    If you wanted to add a new wax, sealant, or coating which of these product would you use to prep your paint?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  5 місяців тому

      For the paint, Labo themselves recommend using the Alkaline first, and following up with their acidic soap, so I stick to their tried and true method. I'm sure they have specific reasons why. They actually own the trademark of the 3PH system. So they created this.

  • @youngtimerdriver
    @youngtimerdriver 8 місяців тому

    Hello Pan and thanks for your reviews. Do you have any wheel cleaner battle to come? P&S was your best in the last award video, I recently tried the new Autoglym advanced all wheel cleaner, the result is unbelievable, specially on the inside part of the wheel. Hope you test it at one point. A bientot!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/wrwF0J33l9M/v-deo.htmlsi=DgeYEjNWVcgG0TWp

  • @larsenttif
    @larsenttif 8 місяців тому

    If I start with a 1:5 dilution of Primus in a pump sprayer, wouldn't that be a higher concentration than using it in a foam cannon? Since the pressure washer adds water to the mix as well, wouldn't the foam cannon application result in a more diluted solution?

  • @guusvdberg16
    @guusvdberg16 8 місяців тому

    Best system for washing

  • @jimgoodwin6440
    @jimgoodwin6440 8 місяців тому

    I appreciate all your videos. This one is a little confusing. Are you saying that this 3 PH protocol should only be used if you have a ceramic/graphine coating or is this fine to use on cars with just wax or sealant (as long as you recoat)?
    I'm looking to get started detailing and I'd like to minimize the range of products I need to get. My car is what you'd call "neglected." It sits outside all the time, under trees, rarely gets washed and hasn't even been waxed in years.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      It can be used on unprotected cars, and also on any protection (wax, sealant or coating). No problem. But depending on how weak your wax or sealant is in relation to chemical resistance, you might have to reapply the protection after the process, if you don't see the water beading anymore.

  • @albertogravagno2619
    @albertogravagno2619 8 місяців тому

    Pan, please test the 2ph system combo Glico + Ductile by Labocosmetica.

    • @alfistaalfista4062
      @alfistaalfista4062 7 місяців тому

      Ouiiiiiiii, c'est une dinguerie c'est produits là 😱😍

  • @ianerickson7068
    @ianerickson7068 8 місяців тому

    What soap is good for stripping off sprayed on ceramic coatings

  • @andyrantshumanphilosopher7571
    @andyrantshumanphilosopher7571 7 місяців тому

    To be effective you need a degreaser, something that attacks organic matter, then something that will eat the minerals. You then need to get rid of metals and then thicker oil based materials. So, an apc, alkali, acid, iron remover and something solvent or citrus and lightly acidic. If you do all that and then contact wash, you will have the cleanest car possible.

  • @malachi2371
    @malachi2371 7 місяців тому

    So can I foam cannon Purifica on the entire car and rinse instead of using a dedicated water spot remover that is applied by hand?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  7 місяців тому +1

      You would spray Purifica, and then also hand wash the car with Purifica in the bucket. And yes that should help to remove water spots and mineral deposits. But that's assuming the water spots haven't started to etch through the clear, or do so staining. Purifica would be the most gentle way. And always use the less aggressive method first. If the acidic soap isn't enough, then you know to step up aggression levels and use a water spot remover.

    • @malachi2371
      @malachi2371 7 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer Thank you!

  • @BassamAlharbi
    @BassamAlharbi 8 місяців тому

    Hi Mr. Pan
    I’m looking for that tap for the bottle like the one you show at 4:30 of this video.
    Can you tell us more about it?
    Thanx

  • @williamdwallace6538
    @williamdwallace6538 8 місяців тому

    Hi there would the 3 PH method apply to a waxed car or just a coated car ?

    • @davidrichard4203
      @davidrichard4203 8 місяців тому

      You can use it also on waxed ,just use the recommend dillution.

  • @senah75
    @senah75 8 місяців тому

    Salut pan video complete
    Dis moi je peux faire le système de lavage aux 3 ph avec differentes marques ?
    Ça donnera le meme résultat ?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Oui. J’ai présenté ceux de CarPro et Koch Chemie dans la vidéo. Tu n’as pas vu?

    • @senah75
      @senah75 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer mon anglais est très approximatif 🤣 j'ai préféré avoir la certitude de l'écrit réponse

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Ah ok, pas de soucis. 👍🏻

  • @georgioschristopoulos3303
    @georgioschristopoulos3303 8 місяців тому

    Can you review Innovacar products ? Thank you Pan!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      I never heard of the brand. If I get enough viewer requests, perhaps I'll look into it. But so far, zero interest.

    • @georgioschristopoulos3303
      @georgioschristopoulos3303 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer
      When you have time take a look. It’s an Italian brand for professionals like the brand you showed us. Worth every penny!
      Available only on Italian and Japanese Amazon because it’s a new brand.

    • @georgioschristopoulos3303
      @georgioschristopoulos3303 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer
      When you have time take a look. It’s an Italian brand for professionals like the brand you showed us. Worth every penny!
      Available only on Italian and Japanese Amazon because it’s a new brand.

    • @georgioschristopoulos3303
      @georgioschristopoulos3303 8 місяців тому

      Yeah it’s a new Italian brand with very good products for professional use.

  • @waleedghanem3536
    @waleedghanem3536 7 місяців тому

    I want to ask If 3PH soap system safe for regular weekly wash

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  7 місяців тому

      It's not necessary for a weekly wash, you'd be wasting product. All you need weekly is a pH neutral soap. You use a 2PH system (3PH was the old style as I said in the video), of high pH snow foam pre-wash and acidic pH soap contact wash when you need it, for a deeper cleaning.

    • @waleedghanem3536
      @waleedghanem3536 7 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer I can use only primus 2.0 pre-wash foam weekly wash I already bought it as a pre-wash

  • @erictourangeau7255
    @erictourangeau7255 8 місяців тому

    Salut Pan j'ai fait un test sur une voiture avec une protection céramique un côté j'ai fait descale et l'autre purifica le résultat purifica m'a donné de meilleurs résultats que descale j'aimerais si c'est possible pour toi de testé leurs protection céramique pour conclure labocosmetica est un très bin produit merci

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Oui ce sont d'excellents produits en effet. Bon weekend!

  • @rorigillmore1233
    @rorigillmore1233 8 місяців тому

    hi would you answer some questions? i am wondering if i have a normal paint defects that i could do with a one step. but there are 2 or 3 deep scratches that i can feel with my finger nail(not throguth the clear coat tho) and i dont want to coumpound or sand that until there is almost no clear coat left around, but i still want to get rid of that scratch, do i just have to sand the heck out of it anyway bcs its the only way or can i fill it up with new clear coat after smoothing it up or is there something else?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      It’s hard to troubleshoot virtually at a distance without seeing the scratches.
      But perhaps look into the Turtle Wax scretch repair kit that I presented in this video: ua-cam.com/video/fABRbBCvjek/v-deo.htmlsi=LsTe3tbDo5uHYDp3

    • @rorigillmore1233
      @rorigillmore1233 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer thanks!

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on UA-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 135 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
      You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

  • @fabiocosta2091
    @fabiocosta2091 7 місяців тому

    make review about semper

  • @Archeagle
    @Archeagle 8 місяців тому

    Ha oui comme topper tu pourrais utilise Labocosmetica Beneficia, c un wet and rinse vraiment efficace

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      Tu veux dire un spray and rinse? Comme WetCoat?

    • @Archeagle
      @Archeagle 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer exactement et il est vraiment performant

  • @svenrendulic6442
    @svenrendulic6442 7 місяців тому

    Also, primus is non-caustic so its not going to cause any damage at any dilution ratio

  • @kennythomsonjr5553
    @kennythomsonjr5553 8 місяців тому

    I would like 2c a company just label their (3) product system 1, 2, and 3. Thanks Pan

  • @QVcarcare
    @QVcarcare 8 місяців тому

    Could you try maniac line product? By mafra ?

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому

      I tried a few products, including the wheel & tire cleaner in this video: ua-cam.com/video/wrwF0J33l9M/v-deo.htmlsi=5yqagIX_yEnYzAT5

  • @jamesharris3021
    @jamesharris3021 8 місяців тому

    What's the name of that app?

  • @loic4691
    @loic4691 8 місяців тому

    Yes 😊

  • @cgraham6
    @cgraham6 8 місяців тому

    A bit off topic, but it irks me that it may be necessary to do a decontamination wash after polishing, in addition to a panel prep spray, to ensure that all polishing oils are removed before applying a ceramic coating. It already takes long enough to prep for a coating. We shouldn’t have to do another contact wash. Polish manufacturers - sell me a polish that you can guarantee will be removed by panel prep alone. If you can’t, it’s time to reformulate your product.

    • @PanTheOrganizer
      @PanTheOrganizer  8 місяців тому +1

      For coatings you have access to buying (consumer grade), you can just do the typical decon wash, iron remover, clay, machine polishing, panel prep spray and apply the coating. No need to to another decon wash after the polishing steps. As long as you follow the brand's instructions to a T.
      But if someone asks me the best insurance to make sure 100% of polishing oils have been removed, then yes I would recommend at least using a dishwashing liquid to wash the car after polishing, and then do the panel prep wipe, and then apply the coating.

    • @cgraham6
      @cgraham6 8 місяців тому

      @@PanTheOrganizer Thank you for the feedback, Pan. I’ve been doing coatings for some of my coworkers, and I want to do the best job I can. Another 20-30 minutes of prep time for each car isn’t something I wanted to consider. Sounds like it’s not a huge concern.