Thanks! If you're not familiar with RockAuto.com they're an excellent place to cross reference parts. When you look up a part, click on the blue highlighted part number just to the left of the info button......it will give you a list of every vehicle on their site that uses the same part. Mike
Glad I saw this video. I was going to weld up the holes on the stock hardbody hubs and redrill them to 5 lug. I know the center hole would be too big for 5 lug rims and would have to machine or grind the center down anyway. This seems to be a lot easier and logical conversion, I'm sure theres plenty of those hubs in junkyards.
Hi Brian, There's several reasons I'd do it this way over welding up the HB hubs. Have you seen the build thread on infamousnissan.com's forum? Lots more info there. www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628 Thanks!
Hi, great video i was planning on doing this mod for my hard body, was wondering how much you charge and do you know the process for the rears. Any info would help thanks
+Reggie Cruz Thanks! I pm'd you about the price. I don't really know about the rears since I'm not into 720's or hardbodies. Have you seen the thread on this? www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628 I don't remember if the info is in there about the rears, but someone there could probably answer your question. Mike
I have not. I've been asked this question a few times, but I've never looked into it since I don't have any Mazda spindles or hubs. I'm shutting the shop down, so it's not something would consider looking into.
Thanks! The inner/outer bearings are the same in both hubs. The spindles are different lengths. The toy spindle is a bit longer, so the bearings need to be moved closer together to properly fit the nissan spindle.
Sorry...you're on your own for the rear. I just do the machining to make the fronts work. I think the options are change the rear end, have the axles redrilled or use adapters.
Love the video and how you explain everything. What about the rear, is it the same? Ive looked on your website but I didnt see any information on the rear unless i am just missed it.
Thank you! The rear is completely different and I don't do anything with it. About the only info on my site about it says just that.....I don't do anything with the rear end. Good luck! :) www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Could this be done the other way around? As in, could I put a 720 hub on my toyota spindle to get 6 lugs? Maybe with the addition of a spacer, instead of lathing material away?
I've been asked about it before. It wouldn't be as easy since I'm pretty sure the spindle would have to be machined. The diameters are okay, but the spindle is a bit too long. Hmm...a spacer at the base of the spindle? That might take up the length, but you'd want to make sure the seal had a place to ride. Is the toyota front steer? You might check to see if the ball joint tapers are the same.....maybe you can just swap spindles? The trucks have a similar length and width, so the Ackerman angle should be close enough. It's been years since I've looked at the details. I machined a Mustang II spindle for a friend so that he could run HB hubs to get 6 lugs. It was a dropped spindles, so it's overall height was short enough to barely fit on my lathe. A stock spindle is typically too tall to fit.
Pretty much any machine shop can do it, but a lot of them won't because of the potential liability. The mod is in this thread. You may find someone more local to you that knows a shop. www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
No clue. I've only ever dealt with this hub. You might check with instagram.com/kielbasaind/ he's welded up and redrilled other hubs. Have you check any of the other 5 lug nissan hubs to see if the bearings have the same ID? If so, then the spacing between the bearings would need to be the same, or at least close. They might swap without any machining.
The stock rotor for that hub. There's a link in the description box to the build thread with all the info www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
Is it necessary to machine the end of the hub? The bearing cover would fit either way and it would just stick out a bit more.. EDIT: Nevermind i found your other video.
Cool. For the benefit of others that might read this.....no, it's not necessary, but a lot of guys going to 5 lug want to run car rims which don't have as much clearance behind the center cap.
+andres jimenez Thanks! I've been charging $80 to do this machining to a CLEAN, grease free pair of hubs supplied by the customer. You can contact me via my site www.bluehandsinc.com or msg through youtube. Are the mods exactly the same? I don't know anything about the Isuzu spindles/bearings.
+andres jimenez Sounds good. If you find extra sets of hubs('85 style), I'd be interested in working a trade or buying them. Let me know how much hubs are where you're at.
I really don't know how much different they are, but I have heard they're quite different. I've never looked at a frontier hub.....but if you have the D22, it would be more important to look at the spindle. You might try searching on infamousnissan's forum for options on the rear end. I don't do anything with the rear. I think the 3 primary options are swap to a different rearend, have the axles machined/drilled or use adapters.
Hello, From anyone who is doing this set up on their Nissan 720 or D21 from 6 lug to toyota 5 lug. What rotor do you use from a vehicle? Do you have to get it custom made? It doesn't matter if the rotor is mounted outside of the hub or inside. Ive been stuck on this for a while for my D21. Thank you for anyones advise.
I have to head to work right now, but you'll find most/all of the info in this link. This doesn't work on 720 spindles. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Sorry. All the details are there about what needs to be done, so you can find another machinist. You might check on Craigslist for someone local that can do it. Thanks for watching!! :)
Once the hubs show up here, I can typically turn them around in a few days at the most. You can contact me via the contact page on my site www.bluehandsfab.com
Hey blue hands nice information on the video. Will this mod also work on the 82 datsun 720 with the thinner rotors. Thanks, and what would the best year toyota be, to get hubs from
Thanks. Yes and no. The early 720 spindles are the same as the 620. I haven't looked at them closely, but I believe the caliper mounting is different. I've never looked to see if the later 720 caliper will mount onto the 620 spindle. The hubs are the same, so the spindle itself is the same.....so a toyota hub could be put on it using this method, but I'm not sure the caliper can. You can, however, swap a late 720 or Hardbody spindle assembly onto your early 720. This 5 lug swap is setup for those spindles. The spacing would not be correct on a mid model 720. Yep...the 720 had 3 different spindles. The pics at the bottom of this page will give you the breakdown on the years. www.bluehandsinc.com/hub-info.html The originator of this and his build thread are here.... www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628 I believe he references '85 Toy hubs. I'm not sure how many years had the same hub.
Yes. You can swap the HB spindles onto a 720...or even a 620. You can put a 620 spindle on a HB, but I can't imagine why you'd want to. lol The hubs will pretty much interchange too. You can put a 620 hub on a HB spindle with an HB rotor/caliper. You can put an HB hub on a 620 spindle with a 620 rotor/caliper.....although the centering lugs on the HB hub are way to big to fit behind a 620 wheel. You can mix and match the hubs on the spindles as long as you use the rotor/caliper for that spindle. You can mix/match the spindles on the trucks, as long as you use a hub/rotor/caliper setup that will work on that spindle. And...the calipers on the mid and late 720's are the same as the ones on the HB's.
+bluehandsvideo I don't know much about these trucks I need help. I'm trying to figure out the name of my engine. so I can figure out what parts to buy for it. it's a 87. v6 carburated. it seems vg30 doesn't come carb as far as I know. so what engine do I have? I was trying to find a turbo kits but I don't think there's a blow through carb for this. also if the Weber carb kit will fit on my engine. I'm very stuck
Sorry to say, but I'm the wrong guy to ask. Anything newer than about '72 was a parts donor for me. lol I know that guys have put carbs on them before.....maybe someone did that before you got it. There's lots of knowledgeable buys on Ratsun.net and Infamousnissan.com. I wish I had a better answer for you. Mike
I started doing it again. The info about it is on my site....here... www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html You can contact me via the site about doing the work or there's enough info on the page to have a local shop do it....if you can find one. :) Mike
hey blue hands. this is jake from scrappingpavement on youtube. i was watching your video on machining a toyota hub to fit a hardbody spindle. do you take orders if so how much would you charge or do you have specs where i can take some hubs to a local machine shop. thanks Chat Conversation End
Hi Jake....you're the local guy...right? I'll send you a msg via youtube. If I post a price here, someone will see it in 3 years and expect me to stick to it. LOL The specs and the seal number for this mod are in this thread..... www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
Are you looking for him to do the conversion for you? You might want to message him directly in case he doesn't see it here. If you're looking to have your hubs machined for the conversion, I'm the guy you would need to talk to. :)
The bearings are the same in both hubs, but the spacing between them is different. The toy spindle is a bit longer, so you might be able to put a spacer on the spindle, then put the nissan hub on. I've never tried.....I've never had a toy spindle here.
I shut the shop down over a year ago. Machining them on a lathe is definitely the best way, but you can grind the area down with an angle grinder. It's a lot easier if you remove the studs first.
Hello, i love the content, by any chance can you build a 6 lug hub for a 2002 5 lug tacoma? i want to do a 6 lug conversion to it but I don't think i'll ever find the parts.
Thanks! I'm happy to hear you like it. Can I make the actual hub....hmmm.....I suppose it might be possible with the equipment I have, but I wouldn't do it. The hubs on your tacoma use the same bearings as the nissan d21 Hardbody 2wd pickup. With out a hub here, I have no clue if the distance between the bearings is the same or close. Considering that I bring the toyota bearings closer together on this modification, that means the toy hub is "longer" than the HB's. You're trying to go the other way, so if the taco hub is similar to the older one used in my mod, you may just need to have a spacer behind the inner bearing to hold the hub out a bit. It would probably need to be pretty precise and have a surface for the wheel seal to ride on. I don't have any toyota spindles here either. If I did, they'd be much older anyway and probably of no help. If you can pick up a nissan disc brake hub, you could probably do the measuring and test fitting yourself to answer the question of whether it might work or not. Any of the hubs from the 620(with discs), 720, and HB would work. They all use the same bearing and most of their dimensions are identical. I don't have time to do any of the machine work it might require, at this time, but you can contact me through my site www.bluehandsfab.com ......I might have time to answer a few questions.
@@bluehandsvideo Thank you so much for the well explained response! at this point I'm almost considering fabricating a new 6 lug spindle, that might be a little easier now that I think about it specially since it will primarily be used for off road use. but once again, Thank you so much! and by the way! I'm from California, and I have family in Gresham. Really nice place!
@@sergiochavez1673 Wow! Family in Gresham?! LOL You're one of the few people who I've come across that even knows where Gresham is, let alone have family here. :) Did I mention Gresham in the video? If you're going to fabricate a spindle, you might consider the newer style bolt on versions. You could use a Chevy....if the bolt pattern matches. It wouldn't matter that the center of the hub has a hole in it for the axle. Hmmm.....Actually, you might look up Chad Criss Designs. He's on IG and FB. I'm not finding them right now, but I thought he had done some work with Tacoma spindles. I know he's fabricated some spindles and used bolt on hub assemblies with them. These aren't his, but it will give you an idea of what I'm referring to. solomotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Fully-Fabricated-Toyota-Spindles-Suspension-8.jpg
@@bluehandsvideo yeah, my aunt lives up there. I really wanted to go this thanks giving vacation but it didn't happen. And yeah I saw that video where you showed us your shop. You mentioned it. Yeah! Thats what I want to do. And the chevy 6 lug would work perfectly. Im going to check out some videos and hopefully get working on them soon! Thanks
@@sergiochavez1673 Ah....yep, I remember saying it in that vid. I didn't remember saying it in this vid. lol I've thought about doing some fabricated spindles. I haven't had the time to do the research. I want to use bearing assemblies like that, but I want to find ones that are the same except for one is 5 lug and one is 6 lug. If I get really lucky, I'll be able to have a 4 lug option too. :)
LOL.....if you get a notification with a weird reply....I was doing the reply from another area and didn't realize the question was about the hubs and not the UCA I just posted about. Sorry, I don't know. I have no clue what the spindle is like on the 2wd version of the pathy. If it's the same as the 4wd version, just without the drive axle going through it, then no, it won't work.....completely different bearings. Do you have any idea if the HB spindles will swap into the 2wd pathy? If they will, they you can do that first....then this will work.
@@bluehandsvideo I figure as much because it is like a 4wd without the drive axle, that's what I was trying to figure out and i know people have put HB down spindles in Pathfinders before, I have a guy on my Facebook with a boddied Pathfinder so he can maybe steer me in the right direction. As far as what will fit. I want to LS swap my Pathfinder and do a five lug swap up front with 8.8 rear out of a ford.
@@MySickDesire If you're looking to really lower the pathy, you might consider just grafting an HB front frame clip onto the front of the pathy. I know it's been done before, but I don't know anything else about it. Good luck!!
The specs and info are on my site still. The price was $80 when I was doing it. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html If you can't find a local machine shop to do the work, contact me through my website, I might have another option for you.
sorry, no. You can find them in the scrapyard or on ebay. I had a machinist to send people to, but his shop got torched by some punk. The specs and info are on my site....for now....some in the text....some in the pics and vids, so check it all out. www.bluehandsvideo.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Sorry, I do not. The info is on my site with contact info for someone that says he'll do them. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Hi there Am about to pick up a 1974, 620 with all around drum brakes Do you have a kit that has everything with out my going around looking for hubs, caliper, etc.. Send me a massage on the price if you do thanks
+Juan Jimenez A kit to put 5 lugs around your 620? Sorry...no. I have a kit for putting discs on the front of your truck, but not the rear. It does not include hubs, calipers, etc. My kit is the only one that will work with 14" stock rims. If you have 15" or bigger rims, there are a couple of guys on ebay that have kits. One guy has a rear kit, but you need 15" rims for them. The info on my kit is on my site bluehandsinc.com
Ok great.. Thanks for the info. So were would I be able to get the hubs, calipers, rotors, ect.. From? I know you give the years of a 710 but what year should I look for for my truck Thanks jc
+Juan Jimenez As long as we're talking about 6 lug discs for your truck.... click through on the titles on the site....most should say "click for more info". www.bluehandsinc.com/hub-info.html www.bluehandsinc.com/donor-vehicle-and-part-information.html
I do still do this. You send me a clean, grease free set of hubs with the bearing races removed and I machine the inner/outer bearing shelves and take an 1/8" off the nose....and then ship them back via usps flat rate priority. $80 total. You can msg me via YT, IG or contact me via my site bluehandsinc.com for shipping/paypal info. Mike
I got a 720, and I’m looking into getting some toy hubs machined. I can send you hubs or buy two off of you if you have a pair, and just pay for labor + ship
Sorry to say....this doesn't work with the 720 spindles because of the differences in the rotors. You can swap HB spindles straight onto your 720. I don't provide any hubs, I just do the machine work. There's a place at the bottom of this page that can provide the Toy hubs and they will ship straight to me if you want. The pricing is under the pics/vids. They will not ship them cleaned up, so take note that having me clean them costs more. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html If you're going to swap to HB spindles, it's a good time to buy dropped spindles if you want to go lower. You just need the HB spindles and calipers since you'll be changing the hubs and rotors.
bluehandsvideo go lower as in? I want to keep the same stance. I’ve gotten 3” blocks for the rear and lowered torsion. I could just install HB spindles and direct fit? Could I also get your email or phone number for faster responses
Dropped spindles would allow you to turn the torsion bars back up a bit and actually have some suspension......otherwise, HB spindles are a direct swap.....disconnect the ball joints, tie rods and brake line....swaps straight across.
How much would it cost to have these done? Also, what would you have to do to convert the rear axle to 5 lug? I am guessing axle shafts but any mods to them?
Scott Edwards msg me for the price....or contact me via my site www.bluehandsinc.com Some guys switch to Toyota rearends. I think one guy was able to redrill the axle flange. I just got a rear end in a week or so ago just so that I can look into the redrilling aspect....but it's low on the list right now.
Sorry, I do not. Check with Kiel.... instagram.com/kielbasaind/ There's more info on my site....you might be able to find a local machinist to do it if Kiel won't. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
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A video about a 720 6lug to 5lug conversion is exactly what I was looking for!!😎🤙🏽
I'm happy to hear that. I hope it answered any questions you had.
Excellent video, good to know all the vehicles that share the same bearing.
Cheers
Dave
Thanks!
If you're not familiar with RockAuto.com they're an excellent place to cross reference parts. When you look up a part, click on the blue highlighted part number just to the left of the info button......it will give you a list of every vehicle on their site that uses the same part.
Mike
BTW....I was wrong about the LUV having the same bearings.
Very nice. This is very useful, kind of hard to explain over email so now I can just refer people to this video. Thanks again for your help
I'm glad you like it. That's exactly why I did the vid and why I put a link on your build thread. You're more than welcome!!
Glad I saw this video. I was going to weld up the holes on the stock hardbody hubs and redrill them to 5 lug. I know the center hole would be too big for 5 lug rims and would have to machine or grind the center down anyway. This seems to be a lot easier and logical conversion, I'm sure theres plenty of those hubs in junkyards.
Hi Brian,
There's several reasons I'd do it this way over welding up the HB hubs. Have you seen the build thread on infamousnissan.com's forum? Lots more info there.
www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
Thanks!
Hi, great video i was planning on doing this mod for my hard body, was wondering how much you charge and do you know the process for the rears. Any info would help thanks
+Reggie Cruz Thanks! I pm'd you about the price. I don't really know about the rears since I'm not into 720's or hardbodies. Have you seen the thread on this? www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628 I don't remember if the info is in there about the rears, but someone there could probably answer your question.
Mike
bluehandsvideo I’m interested also. My son has built a drag truck with his hardbody and wants to do a 5-lug conversion. I would like a quote also
Have you ever done this to a fit the Toyota hub on a Mazda b series spindle?
I have not. I've been asked this question a few times, but I've never looked into it since I don't have any Mazda spindles or hubs. I'm shutting the shop down, so it's not something would consider looking into.
Excellent video. only question I have is regarding the OD of the bearing races. do the hardbody races fit in the yota hubs ?
Thanks!
The inner/outer bearings are the same in both hubs. The spindles are different lengths. The toy spindle is a bit longer, so the bearings need to be moved closer together to properly fit the nissan spindle.
Great video and great work do you know if this would work on a 98 Nissan frontier
Thanks! Sorry, I don't know.
Are you still doing this? I have a frontier that uses hardbody spindles and wanting to go Toyota hub
I got your email, just haven't had a chance to respond. I'll send a reply soon.
Nice mod. Thanks for sharing.
Have a good one!
Dave
Thanks Dave!!
How does this work on the rear/driven hubs?
Sorry...you're on your own for the rear. I just do the machining to make the fronts work. I think the options are change the rear end, have the axles redrilled or use adapters.
after fitting toyota hub does the brakes bolt and work normal?
Yes. The rotor for the toy hub is used with the caliper for the HB. Info is on my site. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Nice work.
Thanks!!
There's more info here...... www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
This dude knows his shit and all of you should listen.
Not sure how I rated that, but thank you. I appreciate it. :) Mike
are you still cutting them down for people? thanks
I shut the shop down over a year and a half ago...sorry. More info here.... www.bluehandsvideo.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Love the video and how you explain everything. What about the rear, is it the same? Ive looked on your website but I didnt see any information on the rear unless i am just missed it.
Thank you! The rear is completely different and I don't do anything with it. About the only info on my site about it says just that.....I don't do anything with the rear end. Good luck! :) www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Could this be done the other way around? As in, could I put a 720 hub on my toyota spindle to get 6 lugs? Maybe with the addition of a spacer, instead of lathing material away?
I've been asked about it before. It wouldn't be as easy since I'm pretty sure the spindle would have to be machined. The diameters are okay, but the spindle is a bit too long. Hmm...a spacer at the base of the spindle? That might take up the length, but you'd want to make sure the seal had a place to ride. Is the toyota front steer? You might check to see if the ball joint tapers are the same.....maybe you can just swap spindles? The trucks have a similar length and width, so the Ackerman angle should be close enough. It's been years since I've looked at the details. I machined a Mustang II spindle for a friend so that he could run HB hubs to get 6 lugs. It was a dropped spindles, so it's overall height was short enough to barely fit on my lathe. A stock spindle is typically too tall to fit.
What car is the Toyota hub from? A Toyota pickup?
Yes, pickup. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
What year toyota truck did these hubs come off of
All of the info on the swap is here...... www.bluehandsvideo.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
I have an 86 Nissan 720 king cab I'm looking into a 5 lug conversion what do I need to do what parts do I need to get
www.bluehandsvideo.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
@@bluehandsvideo awesome info thank you
@@samwhite1345 You're more than welcome. If you can't find a local machinist to do the work, try this guy.... instagram.com/kielbasaind/
@@bluehandsvideo I'll check him out for sure
@@bluehandsvideofrom what your video says hardbody hubs should work no problem right?
Is this something any machine shop can do or is what you do a more specific type of machining
Pretty much any machine shop can do it, but a lot of them won't because of the potential liability. The mod is in this thread. You may find someone more local to you that knows a shop. www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
Could something like this be done on a 1984 Nissan 200sx (s12)
No clue. I've only ever dealt with this hub. You might check with instagram.com/kielbasaind/ he's welded up and redrilled other hubs. Have you check any of the other 5 lug nissan hubs to see if the bearings have the same ID? If so, then the spacing between the bearings would need to be the same, or at least close. They might swap without any machining.
I have my Toyota hubs bored for my hardbody, what rotor do I use that works with my stock brakes?
The stock rotor for that hub. There's a link in the description box to the build thread with all the info
www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
Is it necessary to machine the end of the hub? The bearing cover would fit either way and it would just stick out a bit more.. EDIT: Nevermind i found your other video.
Cool. For the benefit of others that might read this.....no, it's not necessary, but a lot of guys going to 5 lug want to run car rims which don't have as much clearance behind the center cap.
Hi great video! I wanted to do this but I have a isuzu pickup there's forums about the same setup toyota hubs how much would you charge for this
+andres jimenez Thanks! I've been charging $80 to do this machining to a CLEAN, grease free pair of hubs supplied by the customer. You can contact me via my site www.bluehandsinc.com or msg through youtube.
Are the mods exactly the same? I don't know anything about the Isuzu spindles/bearings.
Oh ok thanks I'm Goin to buy the toyota hubs and check it out first and if it's the same thing il contact you soon
+andres jimenez Sounds good. If you find extra sets of hubs('85 style), I'd be interested in working a trade or buying them. Let me know how much hubs are where you're at.
Yea if I find a set il let you know and alright for sure
Are the d22 frontier hubs the same or at least similar? Thinking of doing this to my d22. Also how do you swap 5-lugs in the rear?
I really don't know how much different they are, but I have heard they're quite different. I've never looked at a frontier hub.....but if you have the D22, it would be more important to look at the spindle. You might try searching on infamousnissan's forum for options on the rear end. I don't do anything with the rear. I think the 3 primary options are swap to a different rearend, have the axles machined/drilled or use adapters.
Hello, From anyone who is doing this set up on their Nissan 720 or D21 from 6 lug to toyota 5 lug. What rotor do you use from
a vehicle? Do you have to get it custom made? It doesn't matter if the rotor is mounted outside of the hub or inside. Ive been stuck on this for a while for my D21. Thank you for anyones advise.
I have to head to work right now, but you'll find most/all of the info in this link. This doesn't work on 720 spindles.
www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Dang just saw on your site your no longer offering the service
Sorry. All the details are there about what needs to be done, so you can find another machinist. You might check on Craigslist for someone local that can do it. Thanks for watching!! :)
What about the back do u do the back aswell
It's in the video around the 9min mark.
How long would it take to do some for my 1997 nissan pickup ? And how much
Once the hubs show up here, I can typically turn them around in a few days at the most. You can contact me via the contact page on my site www.bluehandsfab.com
Hi what is the Measurements for the Toyota 5 lug conversion for the bearings
jason harrison my email is harrisonjason@@y7mail,com
jason harrison my email is harrisonjason@@y7mail,com
jason harrison The dimension are in the video......and in this thread..... www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
bluehandsvideo at the end
Hey blue hands nice information on the video. Will this mod also work on the 82 datsun 720 with the thinner rotors. Thanks, and what would the best year toyota be, to get hubs from
Thanks. Yes and no. The early 720 spindles are the same as the 620. I haven't looked at them closely, but I believe the caliper mounting is different. I've never looked to see if the later 720 caliper will mount onto the 620 spindle. The hubs are the same, so the spindle itself is the same.....so a toyota hub could be put on it using this method, but I'm not sure the caliper can.
You can, however, swap a late 720 or Hardbody spindle assembly onto your early 720. This 5 lug swap is setup for those spindles. The spacing would not be correct on a mid model 720. Yep...the 720 had 3 different spindles.
The pics at the bottom of this page will give you the breakdown on the years.
www.bluehandsinc.com/hub-info.html
The originator of this and his build thread are here....
www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
I believe he references '85 Toy hubs. I'm not sure how many years had the same hub.
will the later Later 720 or hard body spindle fit with the early 720 ball joints. Thanks again for your help
Yes. You can swap the HB spindles onto a 720...or even a 620. You can put a 620 spindle on a HB, but I can't imagine why you'd want to. lol
The hubs will pretty much interchange too. You can put a 620 hub on a HB spindle with an HB rotor/caliper. You can put an HB hub on a 620 spindle with a 620 rotor/caliper.....although the centering lugs on the HB hub are way to big to fit behind a 620 wheel. You can mix and match the hubs on the spindles as long as you use the rotor/caliper for that spindle. You can mix/match the spindles on the trucks, as long as you use a hub/rotor/caliper setup that will work on that spindle. And...the calipers on the mid and late 720's are the same as the ones on the HB's.
I have a 87 hardbody. Has disk front and drum rear. drop spindles too. can I convert to toyota 5 lug? and what year and model hubs
Yes, you can. Here's a link to the thread with the info. The hub info is right at the start. :)
+bluehandsvideo I don't know much about these trucks I need help. I'm trying to figure out the name of my engine. so I can figure out what parts to buy for it. it's a 87. v6 carburated. it seems vg30 doesn't come carb as far as I know. so what engine do I have? I was trying to find a turbo kits but I don't think there's a blow through carb for this. also if the Weber carb kit will fit on my engine. I'm very stuck
Sorry to say, but I'm the wrong guy to ask. Anything newer than about '72 was a parts donor for me. lol I know that guys have put carbs on them before.....maybe someone did that before you got it. There's lots of knowledgeable buys on Ratsun.net and Infamousnissan.com. I wish I had a better answer for you. Mike
I know this is a very old video but do you still do this for ppl?
I started doing it again. The info about it is on my site....here... www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
You can contact me via the site about doing the work or there's enough info on the page to have a local shop do it....if you can find one. :)
Mike
Very nice information! Ty
hey blue hands. this is jake from scrappingpavement on youtube. i was watching your video on machining a toyota hub to fit a hardbody spindle. do you take orders if so how much would you charge or do you have specs where i can take some hubs to a local machine shop. thanks
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Hi Jake....you're the local guy...right? I'll send you a msg via youtube. If I post a price here, someone will see it in 3 years and expect me to stick to it. LOL
The specs and the seal number for this mod are in this thread.....
www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12628
scrappingpavement willing to pay for a Toyota Hub swap as well for all four wheels
Are you looking for him to do the conversion for you? You might want to message him directly in case he doesn't see it here. If you're looking to have your hubs machined for the conversion, I'm the guy you would need to talk to. :)
if I shipped you some Toyota hubs for my Nissan hardbody could you do this machine work ? if so how much , im very interested thanks eric
I can. I sent you the price via message.
I deleted your reply so that a bot can't grab your email.
Thank you
Is it possible to put the hb 6 lug on my 91 toyota?
The bearings are the same in both hubs, but the spacing between them is different. The toy spindle is a bit longer, so you might be able to put a spacer on the spindle, then put the nissan hub on. I've never tried.....I've never had a toy spindle here.
I have 97 corolla, what parts do i need to do the 5 lugs conversion?
Sorry, but this conversion is specifically to put toy 5 lug hubs on a Nissan Hardbody(D21) pickup. I have zero clue about anything corolla.
Can I send you my hubs to get this done too. I have a set of 88 Toyo hubs
Sorry. Shutdown around the first of the year
contact instagram.com/kielbasaind/ .....he's said before that he'd do them.
How can I get my hubs done or a address to send them to ?
I shut the shop down over a year ago. Machining them on a lathe is definitely the best way, but you can grind the area down with an angle grinder. It's a lot easier if you remove the studs first.
Think you, I wish that I could get them done and I would know that they were done right, but think you for the info
Please could I get the detail numbers B/F side that I need them machine to, if so think you for your help again!!!!
@@scottiegodette8881 here's the info....be sure to check it over carefully. www.bluehandsvideo.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
@bluehandsvideo think very very much
Hello, i love the content, by any chance can you build a 6 lug hub for a 2002 5 lug tacoma? i want to do a 6 lug conversion to it but I don't think i'll ever find the parts.
Thanks! I'm happy to hear you like it. Can I make the actual hub....hmmm.....I suppose it might be possible with the equipment I have, but I wouldn't do it. The hubs on your tacoma use the same bearings as the nissan d21 Hardbody 2wd pickup. With out a hub here, I have no clue if the distance between the bearings is the same or close.
Considering that I bring the toyota bearings closer together on this modification, that means the toy hub is "longer" than the HB's. You're trying to go the other way, so if the taco hub is similar to the older one used in my mod, you may just need to have a spacer behind the inner bearing to hold the hub out a bit. It would probably need to be pretty precise and have a surface for the wheel seal to ride on. I don't have any toyota spindles here either. If I did, they'd be much older anyway and probably of no help.
If you can pick up a nissan disc brake hub, you could probably do the measuring and test fitting yourself to answer the question of whether it might work or not. Any of the hubs from the 620(with discs), 720, and HB would work. They all use the same bearing and most of their dimensions are identical.
I don't have time to do any of the machine work it might require, at this time, but you can contact me through my site www.bluehandsfab.com ......I might have time to answer a few questions.
@@bluehandsvideo Thank you so much for the well explained response! at this point I'm almost considering fabricating a new 6 lug spindle, that might be a little easier now that I think about it specially since it will primarily be used for off road use. but once again, Thank you so much! and by the way! I'm from California, and I have family in Gresham. Really nice place!
@@sergiochavez1673 Wow! Family in Gresham?! LOL You're one of the few people who I've come across that even knows where Gresham is, let alone have family here. :) Did I mention Gresham in the video?
If you're going to fabricate a spindle, you might consider the newer style bolt on versions. You could use a Chevy....if the bolt pattern matches. It wouldn't matter that the center of the hub has a hole in it for the axle. Hmmm.....Actually, you might look up Chad Criss Designs. He's on IG and FB. I'm not finding them right now, but I thought he had done some work with Tacoma spindles. I know he's fabricated some spindles and used bolt on hub assemblies with them.
These aren't his, but it will give you an idea of what I'm referring to. solomotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Fully-Fabricated-Toyota-Spindles-Suspension-8.jpg
@@bluehandsvideo yeah, my aunt lives up there. I really wanted to go this thanks giving vacation but it didn't happen. And yeah I saw that video where you showed us your shop. You mentioned it. Yeah! Thats what I want to do. And the chevy 6 lug would work perfectly. Im going to check out some videos and hopefully get working on them soon! Thanks
@@sergiochavez1673 Ah....yep, I remember saying it in that vid. I didn't remember saying it in this vid. lol
I've thought about doing some fabricated spindles. I haven't had the time to do the research. I want to use bearing assemblies like that, but I want to find ones that are the same except for one is 5 lug and one is 6 lug. If I get really lucky, I'll be able to have a 4 lug option too. :)
Do you know if this will work on a 2wd Pathfinder?
LOL.....if you get a notification with a weird reply....I was doing the reply from another area and didn't realize the question was about the hubs and not the UCA I just posted about. Sorry, I don't know. I have no clue what the spindle is like on the 2wd version of the pathy. If it's the same as the 4wd version, just without the drive axle going through it, then no, it won't work.....completely different bearings. Do you have any idea if the HB spindles will swap into the 2wd pathy? If they will, they you can do that first....then this will work.
@@bluehandsvideo I figure as much because it is like a 4wd without the drive axle, that's what I was trying to figure out and i know people have put HB down spindles in Pathfinders before, I have a guy on my Facebook with a boddied Pathfinder so he can maybe steer me in the right direction. As far as what will fit. I want to LS swap my Pathfinder and do a five lug swap up front with 8.8 rear out of a ford.
@@MySickDesire If you're looking to really lower the pathy, you might consider just grafting an HB front frame clip onto the front of the pathy. I know it's been done before, but I don't know anything else about it. Good luck!!
How much would it cost to do this?
The specs and info are on my site still. The price was $80 when I was doing it.
www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
If you can't find a local machine shop to do the work, contact me through my website, I might have another option for you.
Are you selling these hubs
sorry, no. You can find them in the scrapyard or on ebay. I had a machinist to send people to, but his shop got torched by some punk. The specs and info are on my site....for now....some in the text....some in the pics and vids, so check it all out. www.bluehandsvideo.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Are this for front?
Yes, just for the front. The rear axle is a completely different setups.
Would it be possible to order a pair of these?
The info is on my site. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Do you still do this?
Sorry, I do not. The info is on my site with contact info for someone that says he'll do them. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Hi there
Am about to pick up a 1974, 620 with all around drum brakes
Do you have a kit that has everything with out my going around looking for hubs, caliper, etc.. Send me a massage on the price if you do thanks
+Juan Jimenez A kit to put 5 lugs around your 620? Sorry...no. I have a kit for putting discs on the front of your truck, but not the rear. It does not include hubs, calipers, etc. My kit is the only one that will work with 14" stock rims. If you have 15" or bigger rims, there are a couple of guys on ebay that have kits. One guy has a rear kit, but you need 15" rims for them.
The info on my kit is on my site bluehandsinc.com
Ok great.. Thanks for the info. So were would I be able to get the hubs, calipers, rotors, ect.. From?
I know you give the years of a 710 but what year should I look for for my truck
Thanks jc
+Juan Jimenez As long as we're talking about 6 lug discs for your truck.... click through on the titles on the site....most should say "click for more info".
www.bluehandsinc.com/hub-info.html
www.bluehandsinc.com/donor-vehicle-and-part-information.html
How would I get in contact with you on getting some done?
You can contact me thru my site www.bluehandsinc.com if you can't msg me via youtube.
Would you still be able to do this?
I do still do this. You send me a clean, grease free set of hubs with the bearing races removed and I machine the inner/outer bearing shelves and take an 1/8" off the nose....and then ship them back via usps flat rate priority. $80 total. You can msg me via YT, IG or contact me via my site bluehandsinc.com for shipping/paypal info.
Mike
Good explanation/modification
Thanks Chuck!
Kinda funny it's machinists commenting and not Nissan guys! LOL
You sir are a wizard, thanks
Nothing that magical, but thanks! :)
Would you still be able to do this for me?
Yes. Contact me via my site.... www.bluehandsinc.com/contact-bhf.html
Thanks!
Mazda b2200 conversion plz......
Sorry.....almost zero chance it will ever happen. I don't have any mazda stuff to reference.
I got a 720, and I’m looking into getting some toy hubs machined. I can send you hubs or buy two off of you if you have a pair, and just pay for labor + ship
Sorry to say....this doesn't work with the 720 spindles because of the differences in the rotors. You can swap HB spindles straight onto your 720.
I don't provide any hubs, I just do the machine work. There's a place at the bottom of this page that can provide the Toy hubs and they will ship straight to me if you want. The pricing is under the pics/vids. They will not ship them cleaned up, so take note that having me clean them costs more. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
If you're going to swap to HB spindles, it's a good time to buy dropped spindles if you want to go lower. You just need the HB spindles and calipers since you'll be changing the hubs and rotors.
bluehandsvideo go lower as in? I want to keep the same stance. I’ve gotten 3” blocks for the rear and lowered torsion. I could just install HB spindles and direct fit? Could I also get your email or phone number for faster responses
Dropped spindles would allow you to turn the torsion bars back up a bit and actually have some suspension......otherwise, HB spindles are a direct swap.....disconnect the ball joints, tie rods and brake line....swaps straight across.
Your youtube isn't set up for me to msg you, so you can email me via my contact page on my site. www.bluehandsinc.com/contact-bhi.html
bluehandsvideo could you redrill rotors to 5x4.5
Amazing job man thank you very much :)
You're more than welcome. :) I've posted the info on my site.... www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
How much would it cost to have these done? Also, what would you have to do to convert the rear axle to 5 lug? I am guessing axle shafts but any mods to them?
Scott Edwards msg me for the price....or contact me via my site www.bluehandsinc.com
Some guys switch to Toyota rearends. I think one guy was able to redrill the axle flange. I just got a rear end in a week or so ago just so that I can look into the redrilling aspect....but it's low on the list right now.
Muy bien mike muy buena información
gracias! :)
Do you have a contact ? Email ? I need this work done . I want you to do it for me .
You can PM me via youtube or contact me through my site www.bluehandsinc.com
I what this work to
im interested in a set of hubs can you pm me please
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blue hands. Thanks for the update.
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Excellent video.
+G Zuk Thanks! ....and thanks for the sub! :)
Trying to use nissan wheels
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why would you convert to toyota hubs
+Raven Mullis A lot of guys like the 5 lug wheel options better.
bluehandsvideo thanks for the quick reply
+Raven Mullis You're welcome.....timing just happened to work out right :)
bluehandsvideo
lol
I'm interested in having you do this for me I messaged you on your website
Got it. :)
Hi, I'm interested in a pair of hubs if your interested in doing another pair. Can you pm me on here or send me an email about pricing?
msg sent
Do you still do these
Sorry, I do not. Check with Kiel.... instagram.com/kielbasaind/ There's more info on my site....you might be able to find a local machinist to do it if Kiel won't. www.bluehandsinc.com/5-lug-swap-nissan-d21-hardbody.html
Ok thanks I appreciate it
@@kiing_vassell1840 you're welcome. :)