Kemper Player vs ToneX Pedal: the definitive comparison (Scientific Tone Comparison vs tube amp)
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- This video is gonna be super. We will compare the Kemper Player versus the ToneX, also with some pretty scientific tests. First of all we will hear the units in action in a demo song, then we will compare the technical characteristics of the two units with a very detailed comparison chart, then we will hear an head to head of the two units versus two real tube amps, also performing the null test, so that we will also have some numbers to support our research for the best unit to buy! We will also check out how the new Kemper Liquid Profiling Tech performs. I hope you enjoy!
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⏰Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Demo Song (Kemper Player vs ToneX in action)
3:44 - Comparison Chart
10:46 - Sound test: INTRO
12:19 - Sound test: real demo song tracks vs real amps
13:39 - Sound test: NULL TEST
18:38 - Sound test: Kemper Liquid Profiling test
20:30 - My 2 cents
#KemperPlayer #ToneX
Hi guys, thank you for all your great comments and suggestions!.
There is a correction to be done to the final part of the video that some of you pointed out: the Plethora X5 has a MIDI in and a MIDI Thru, but not a MIDI Out.
thanks for your killer videos and knowledge
Leo how would you compare these to the New Boss IR 2..I have a few pedals and a Kemper like is kind of overboard...for me.
Lovely playing again.
what a great video Leo, your tests were awsome!!!!
So what ist better leo? 😅😊
Rare to find a sane rational review from someone who hasn’t been paid and isn’t selling anything. Thanks for your hard work
Thank you so much: I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!
No one reviews and compares like Leo. Thank you for the excellent, in depth work!
Thank you so much for such great compliment!!
Thank you for taking the time to live a comment: it means a lot to me!!!
Leo is the B. E. S. T. ! ! ! !
This is the best channel for rigorous, thorough and independent tests of digital equipment. Please carry on with your great work, Leo!
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I never leave YT comments but as a data scientist this is the first time I am seeing a rigorous and scientific approach for analyzing between pedals and amp, amazing job, thank you for that!
Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment, I'm really happy that you have appreciate the video and the approach!!!
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks for the reply, few questions as it wasn't stated in the video:
Did you re-amp your riff? I.e played the riff raw then used it on the amp and Kemper/tonex? As I see there is some difference between each track.
This will reduce the confounding variable (feel, picking strength and what not)
Then, we can use it on several different amps and even tweak the knobs to find the optimum (global minima)
And if we do that with enough sample size we can reach enough power to declare statistical significance.
Been looking forward to this video since the unit was announced!
Thank you !!! I hope you have enjoyed the video!!!
Amazing stuff Leo. Your work is greatly appreciated and admired
Hey Steve, thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the content!!!!
I love your channel too!!!!
Thanks!!!
Great work on the comparison! Thank you, Leo 😊
You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!
Leo, your in-depth reviews are second to none. Thanks for all your hard work to share this information with us!
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Leo, your tests are the BEST, especially the null tests that nobody else does!
Thank you so much Alex, for such a great compliment that really makes me happy!!!
This is so brilliant! And what a lot of time you must have put in to do this for us! Thank you!
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Yes....a lot of time went in this video....
Thank you for taking time to do these comparisons and breaking out the differences of specs and functionality between the devices. This really helps with products like these as they have many features. It can take a lot of time to discover the advantages or disadvantages of a product. Watching your videos are a great resource.
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I haven't seen someone test with phase in some time. You clearly put in a lot of work, and I very much appreciate it.
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you have appreciated the video!!!....and yes...I put a lot of work in making this video!!!
It was done months ago by a guy doing hi gain comparisons for tonex and kemper. That is where Leo got the idea in my opinion.
Leo great comparison. Your idea to deduct phase shifted signal is absolutely genious!
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Unexpected results. I would have expected a better performance from the Kemper. This is why it is so important to conduct scientific tests. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. 👍
You are welcome!!!
Yes, I was very curious to check it out....especially the behaviour of the liquid profiling tech.
Kemper is very good but has a very pronounced sound of its own, so it's not a surprise it performed somewhat worse in the null test. I happen to really like the Kemper sound tho.
@@slash196 It does seem like the top Modelers each have a signature/characteristic sound.
General rule of thumb in life, things that are most popular, almost always are not the best. And since you like science so much, this is very logical. The average is by default what the most people think is good, as such it is by default "the average" . Someone that excels in something is rare, as such this group is more rare, as such people understanding why A is better than B is also a much smaller group, as such the best stuff is almost always what the smaller group endorses, and almost never what the biggest group endorses
@@xdarrenxI have tried all the top modelers and I prefer Kemper . It’s the only one (fractal maybe too? ) that not only sounds good but REACTS like an amp in a dynamic way . The harder you hit it .. or not .. the harder it hits the ‘amp’ much like a tube amp which is the only thing that makes tubes preferable anyway imo
Thanks for the really useful tests. It does help a lot !
You are welcome and I'm really happy to have been of some help!!!
This is the type of comparisons I've wanted to see on UA-cam. I've ever known that hearing the sounds of the unit vs. the amp is not enough so we need to see the behavior of the waves. Thanks so much for doing this. Subscribed immediately.
Hi Hector, thank you so much for this beautiful message!
I'm really happy that you have appreciated the video and you sub really means a lot to me!!!!
Thanks!!!
Leo, this is so well thought out, performed, edited and presented. It is an amazing piece of work!!
The methodology of comparison with concise and inclusive explanation is second to none. I truly appreciate the long hours to put something like this together, and the insight on how to present it so well.
And if that's not enough, your playing is terrific!
Thanks very much, it has helped me make decisions that many dozens of other videos on this topic were not able to do at all.
Thank you sooo much for such amazing compliments that really make me happy!
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Great job Leo!! Fantastic approach!! Congrats!!!
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You are fantastic Leo!! Thank you for your hard work! 🤗🙏
Thank you so much for such amazing feedback: It means a lot to me!!!!
You are the best! Thanks for the in depth work.
Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!! Really appreciated!!
Wow this was super helpful. Thank you!
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Thank you for the in-depth review. You are awesome brother ❤
Thank you so much for such amazing complaint that really makes me happy!!!!
Thanks so much for the excellent review: your approach is much appreciated.
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This is very informative. Thanks for the videos!!
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Thank you!!!
Leo! You always have the best objective comparison/demo reviews. Killer playing in the intro and really appreciate the info 🫶💯🎸🔥
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Brilliant comparison and method! Good job and thank you.
Thank you so much!!!
Great comparison! I really enjoyed your video and it helped me a lot!
Keep it up and have a great day.
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Leo, that was a great demo with some very creative analysis. Way to go!
Thank you so much Matthew, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!
This was brilliant top to bottom, it certainly answered my questions about these units
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Great information Leo! Great playing as well!
Thank you so much....and when you like my music or my playing .... I'm super happy!!!
Wow! I can see how much work has gone into this video, thank you for your work.
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@@LeoGibsonGtr I have now subscribed and watched many of your videos. You are a very honest and genuine UA-camr and your information is a great help for a beginner/intermediate like myself to better understand some of these subjects.
It appears to me that IK blurr the line a little between TONEX and AmpliTube with their mac/iOS software. I would be very interested if you did a more recent video on AmpliTube vs TONEX, how they can work together (and how they are different), and if AmpliTube can now be used with this TONEX pedal as a standalone solution.
Amazing song. Amazing technique. Amazing instructional work. It's really impossible to distinguish today the difference between the real amps and gear to the virtual ones.
Super amazing compliment!!!! 😀
I'm really happy that you have appreciated the song and the video!!!
Thank you also for sharing your findings!!
This is a really informative review, and such fantastic playing 👏👏👏
Thank you so much and....when you like my music or my playing.....I'm super happy!!!!
Great video! Thanks for all!
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As always! A pleasure Leo!
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Excellent Leo... Very informative and enjoyable. I love your scientific approach here.
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Excellent work Leo! And love listening to your music.
Thank you so much, I'm happy that you appreciate the video and .... when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!!
Thank you so much Leo for the amazing job you do with this comparisons, I really enjoyed, it is very helpful, and technically unbiased. Congratulations!!
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Always the better review, Nice work
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There is no one like you, thanks for your hard work Leo this was really helpfull!
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Great work ! thank you for your precision
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Really great quality review. impressed!
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Best comparison. Thank you Leo
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The video that a lot of us were waiting for... tx !
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your best video by far Leo!!!
Thank you!!
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Impressive work! Nicely done!
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Again, Great comparison pedals... thanks Leo 👍🙏
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Leo, you nailed it. Again! It’s becoming a habit, at every launching I come here to see your review. I count on it already 😊 Congratulations for the good work! Thanks
Thank you so much for letting me know!!! I'm really happy to be of some help!!!
And I hope to be able to maintain the same consideration from you even in the next years!!!
Thanks!!!
I've been waiting for a video from you since they released the Player. But this time you exceeded expectations. Perfect! hugs from Brazil.
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I watched youTube to see your gear reviews, but it seems like your performance is getting more beautiful day by day.
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AS ALWAYS AWESOME VIDEO, MAN!!! Thanks a lot. Cheers!!!
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Amazing, the wave comparison is great
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks for doing this! New to all of this profiling stuff, and recently found out about the Kemper. Was very curious how this compares to the tonex, and this video answered all of my questions.
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Thank you so much.
I have tone x and plethora x5 and I happy with this simple and lightweight solution.
Best regards.
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The video we all waiting for 😁
Thank you for letting me know and I hope you have enjoyed the video!!
Thanks! This is really interesting video. Great job!
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This is a great video! Subbed!
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Fantastic test. ToneX has really changed the game. Great captures with quality rivaling QC and Fractal, for a fraction of the price. If IK ever comes out with a ToneX with more effects and a color touchscreen, I would replace my QC.
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!
Yes, a more complete unit from IK would be very interesting.
Thank you!
Just wait till they implement a high cut into the pedal, if ever
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I have seen many youtube comparison videos and yours my friend, belong to the top 5%! Bravo!
Great work and thank you for sharing. I am sure you are helping many many people with such detailed and top notch videos.
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This is an excellent comparison!!!
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Leo, you did it again. Nobody does comparison tests as you do. Congrats!
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@@LeoGibsonGtr What about make a comparison between Boss ir3 and ToneX as inexpensive gears. Of course they have different concepts but for ampless solutions would be great.
Excelente Work Leo!!!! The best reviwer on youtube!!!
Thank you for such an amazing compliment!!!
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Bravissimo Leo! Best reviews in the business 👏🏼
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Excellent test with great amount of effort and detail! 👌
So far all of your videos are some of the most informative in the known universe! Subscribed and likes! Keep on doing what you do! 💪
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Thanks for this video🔥
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Amazing playing.Beautiful!
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Excellent. As far as I know, nobody compared the quality in such a scientific way like you. Of course, everyone can judge it by their ears, but to try to compare a creative technology in an objective (=scientific) way is a big bonus. And thank you for your work. I know that's really time consuming.
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Thanks for another very informative video.
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Phenomenal work!!
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Great work Leo, hats off.
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It means a lot to me!!!
Very informative comparison, Good Job!
I hope they will have a function that sacrifice the effect blocks to get a 2 amp (Stereo amp) option.
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It would be nice....I would also ask for 3 effect blocks after the cab.... :)
dude this is the sweetest comparison video i have ever seen.
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Perfeito como sempre! Melhor canal de guitar tech do youtube!
Hi, thank you so much for such amazing compliment!!
Amazing Work!!!! Can't believe you went to the extra mile of checking the phase when the gain is changed. Also, this song is my favorite from you :) Love from India
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video and the song...when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!!
Yes, I was very curious about the liquid profiling tech....and I tried to check it out in the best way possible.
Thanks!
Great video, as usual.
It'd be very interesting to make the test with different settings of the tonestacks, not only the gain parameter. Thank you, Leo!
Thank you so much!!!
Yes!!! It's exactly what I'm doing....😀
Great!! 😊
Amazing job Leo! As always. :)
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Stellar work. No one does what you do in the UA-cam. Auguri!
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Very interesting test! I In addition to the differences in LUFS it was also noticeable that the difference in the null test between real amp and models was getting bigger the quiter the sound became in its releasse phase.
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Thank you also for sharing your findings!!!
Excellent independent analysis again, Leo
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Thanks I did not know that. I thought I had to buy the box. That’s great information. Thanks.
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Excellent video, Leo. Thanks for saving us a great deal of time-consuming work, and reducing our risk of an expensive, ill-informed buying mistake.
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That is one impressive comparison!
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Great work Leo !
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Great stuff man !!
Thank you so much!!!
Thank you very much! Enough comprehension review.
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Awesome video like always my friend!
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Excellent video, you really helped me find the right product, thank you very much! And yes I subscribed to your channel 😊
You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!
You are the best Leo! Happy New Year!
Thank you so much and happy 2024 to you too!!!
Crazy how much Time u must have put into this one ! Thank you !
You are welcome and yes.... a lot of time!!!
I'm happy that you appreciate the effort and the results!!!
Thank you, a very interesting comparison! Give it another few years and I reckon you'll be comparing devices, that take many multiples of profiles of an amps settings, a bit like todays snapshot, vs a movie. It's amazing what we have access to now and it will continue to evolve. I wonder if a time will come when the difference between a real amp and model will be indistinguishable, even with scientific tests.
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Interesting points....and yes, we have now really good units to make music! Can't wait to see what it will possible to get in the future!!!
As a kemper user who loves the ecosystem and the philosophy of the company i have to admit that kemper is getting behind on its profiling tech. Amazing as always Leo, i think this is one of your best videos.
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Thank you also for sharing your findings!!!
Ecosystem????
@@Twinhit haven’t heard that word?
Leo you deserve more followings man.. you explain so so so much better compared to other channels man..
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Thank you!
llevo tonex desde que salió y la verdad que muy feliz, hubo sus problemitas en cuanto configuración, pero sus actualización y su grupo de amigos hizo que sea fácil de salir. Este año me voy por un segundo tonex para salida stereo
Hi, thank you so much for sharing your experience and your findings!
What a fantastic video have a wonderful happy new year Leo ❤😊
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Happy 2024 to you too!!!
This guy is one of the most well-rounded players I've ever heard. Absolutely love the channel and please give us a latency shoot-out part 2.
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Yes, I should do another full latency tests with many devices.....it takes a lot of time....😀
Holy cow! What a lot of work for the greater good of the guitar playing community. Thank you.
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That was impressive.. I just got an offer for my ToneX but after your video I'll keep it.
First time here, amazing content. You're great.
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Amazing video bro! :D
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thank you very much, you did huge work to show us the core difference and tbh, the result is really unexpected ))
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