when playing kyrian, spam your shield of the righteous button when using divine toll with the ringing clarity conduit to get out an extra sotr and avoid overcapping your holy power, as the extra holy shocks are delayed for a moment.
Remember that crazy judgement damage you were getting in bfa? Man, I miss seeing that. Holy went too mainstream in 9.0.5 and now blizz is judging it lol. Having 2-3/4 healers being holy pallies in the race to world first doesn't help.
You can also pop your holy avenger and spam your shield of righteousness due to it being no global cd. You can get some more damage out of it (if you don't have to heal :)).
@@Zmokamok i was reading wingsup guide and Ellesmere talks about vanguards momentum being the best for kyrian dps better than Paragon but i wanted a second opinion from. Another mythic plus expert
Appreciate a guide. Do you have a source of more abilities that can be abused with BOP and BOF. My most recent favorite I learned of was pre freedom the target of the root on the last boss of Necrotic Wake.
Hmm I probably can't remember them all but there's a few here: You can freedom Oros (the frost Tormented mob) but it only removes the slow as long as you keep freedom on. Bop the tenderize debuff in Necrotic wake once the tank has a lot of stacks (2-3 stacks). But only do that if you know the tank has a cancelaura macro. Bop in spires (as you can see in the guide, I do it on the boss to prevent the dmg debuff). There is probably a lot more that I just dont think about 😁
Do you put 2nd beacon on yourself? I find it a bit redundant with the self healing anima power. Also having this awkward thing where the anima powers are being shuffled each week so I play a talent build to get the haste/self damage but I don't get it until like halfway through the dungeon so it's pretty awkward. Even as venthyr I've felt just running 9.0.5's talent build works if you're not getting the self healing or haste very early on.
Hey i have a question for you and hope you can anwer, im a venthy holy pld 2301 io, just did a 21 sd, we wiped on first boss the fight lasted 3 and half minutes, my HPS where at 9khps the entire fight we wiped at 3% i was 100% out of cds and almost out of mana, do you think my healing was the issue or was it lack of dps? this was on tyranical btw
My crusader stike macro, it allows you to not have a target, but you can just press crusader strike whenever you are close to an enemy: pastebin.com/wh0x0CGm
Hello Zmok. I cant understand one moment. Explain if it's not difficult for you. When you show ur DMG rotation - you spend ur holy power for "Shield". It doing not big dmg in singl target ( Lil better in AOE). Wouldn't it be better if u spend ur HP for "Word of glory"(even if it going to overheal), to generate more procs of Wings(10sec each (12sec with Legendary)). Won't that give more Dmg? (and overal dmg). If not - explain why. Thank you very much.
@@Zmokamok ok. U don't try. Sorry for the importunity, but you didn’t answer the question. If other players want to maximize there dmg( solo, AOE, overal) - they need to use HP for 'Shields', or need to bait more Wings? (cos wings Up all ur dmg and crit and so on).
@@Zmokamok are you going to test divine resonance legendary even though it was nerfed as you said? Or is it really just that bad to you now? It would be amazing if ret and holy both had that as a fantastic choice. One can dream. Hah
@@Zmokamok i like your argument but those higher keys people get 2 -3 shotted especially on fort raging, that shock barriere means life or death some times.
@@brianshrimp5824 Nah trust me it really aint worth it in M+ If people know what they are doing, they are not getting randomly oneshot, they will pre-pop a defensive
@@brianshrimp5824 If you are venthyr you should choose The mad paragon cause it gives you 30% more damage on Hammer of Wrath plus with each Hammer of Wrath you make your wings last longer(ashen increases HoW dmg by 100%) But when you are Kyrian The shock barrier is the best because it shields 5 targets, plus gimmer so you just pop Divine toll and have glimmer and the shock barrier on every party member. Hope i helped!
Theotar buffs are just too good too miss, i mean speed and avoidance when well fed and 4 hours of 3 percent crit, haste, intellect or versa, i mean that's way better than Nadia
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when playing kyrian, spam your shield of the righteous button when using divine toll with the ringing clarity conduit to get out an extra sotr and avoid overcapping your holy power, as the extra holy shocks are delayed for a moment.
Yeah that is true, I forgot to mention that!
Still the best outro I've ever seen lmao^^
Just what I needed, ty!
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Remember that crazy judgement damage you were getting in bfa? Man, I miss seeing that. Holy went too mainstream in 9.0.5 and now blizz is judging it lol. Having 2-3/4 healers being holy pallies in the race to world first doesn't help.
Thx u for awesome guide!!
Have you tried out light's hammer? I quite like it.
Yesterday I did a timewalk raid and my wings popped like 5 times with hearth of azeroth and as a kirian Pala I play all 3 specs
You can also pop your holy avenger and spam your shield of righteousness due to it being no global cd.
You can get some more damage out of it (if you don't have to heal :)).
Yep, that is true, if there is nothing to heal after the pack/boss you are fighting, you can pop it all
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Glad you like it mate!
nice guide ty. I want to be like you when I am grown up. except with hair ofc. KEKLEO
What is the wa or addon left above that tracks your ability used on target
Details addon and then activate action tracker
your head has a nice shape
He is a pretty egg.
Which one
@@Zmokamok egg
@@Zmokamok 🤣
Hey i play holy priest quite often, any plans on doing a holy priest guide for 9.1 ?
Excellent question. Also needs to be answered for disc priest too. We all know he's a secret priest main.
he told me to delete my account when I told him I main priest
@@Mendeln333 D:
Yumytv will have guides for all the healer specs, both the disc and holy priest guides are done!
@@ZbabehZ tell yumytv he smells
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What weakaura do you use for your holy power?
Hi! Great content!! Wanted to ask have you tried vanguard momentum as a kyrian leggo? As a contender vs mad paragon?
Havent tried, but it looks good!
@@Zmokamok i was reading wingsup guide and Ellesmere talks about vanguards momentum being the best for kyrian dps better than Paragon but i wanted a second opinion from. Another mythic plus expert
Appreciate a guide. Do you have a source of more abilities that can be abused with BOP and BOF. My most recent favorite I learned of was pre freedom the target of the root on the last boss of Necrotic Wake.
Hmm I probably can't remember them all but there's a few here:
You can freedom Oros (the frost Tormented mob) but it only removes the slow as long as you keep freedom on.
Bop the tenderize debuff in Necrotic wake once the tank has a lot of stacks (2-3 stacks). But only do that if you know the tank has a cancelaura macro.
Bop in spires (as you can see in the guide, I do it on the boss to prevent the dmg debuff).
There is probably a lot more that I just dont think about 😁
Only one question: should we use wings with holy avenger together (like it was in bfa)?
You can pop all for max damage, if you know that the pull after requires minimum healing, and you can heal it without cooldowns
Do you put 2nd beacon on yourself? I find it a bit redundant with the self healing anima power. Also having this awkward thing where the anima powers are being shuffled each week so I play a talent build to get the haste/self damage but I don't get it until like halfway through the dungeon so it's pretty awkward. Even as venthyr I've felt just running 9.0.5's talent build works if you're not getting the self healing or haste very early on.
Yeah mainly I put it on myself, depends a bit on situation, you can also put it on a dps if you have big defensives ready yourself
Can i be venthyr using shock barrier leggo, and this talent build? Or would be better if i use maraad leggo because i have it
Maraad is only useful in raids (I’m sure you know at this point)
Hey i have a question for you and hope you can anwer, im a venthy holy pld 2301 io, just did a 21 sd, we wiped on first boss the fight lasted 3 and half minutes, my HPS where at 9khps the entire fight we wiped at 3% i was 100% out of cds and almost out of mana, do you think my healing was the issue or was it lack of dps? this was on tyranical btw
Often it's a problem with rotating defensives in the party and healing cds, 9k hps sounds more than enough!
you did not discuss any macros you use. Anything useful you'd care to mention?
My crusader stike macro, it allows you to not have a target, but you can just press crusader strike whenever you are close to an enemy: pastebin.com/wh0x0CGm
how did you make the Elvui party plate clickable for spells?
Mouseover macro
I though all holy pally did was drop ashen and win game?
Where do you bind LIght of Dawn?
On 5
Vent Combat Resto Shaman pls I’m struggling hard to get over 2k DPS
I think it may be too early for this but I take it
Hello Zmok. I cant understand one moment. Explain if it's not difficult for you.
When you show ur DMG rotation - you spend ur holy power for "Shield". It doing not big dmg in singl target ( Lil better in AOE).
Wouldn't it be better if u spend ur HP for "Word of glory"(even if it going to overheal), to generate more procs of Wings(10sec each (12sec with Legendary)).
Won't that give more Dmg? (and overal dmg). If not - explain why.
Thank you very much.
Nah I don't try to bait for wings unless anyone needs healing 👍
@@Zmokamok ok. U don't try.
Sorry for the importunity, but you didn’t answer the question.
If other players want to maximize there dmg( solo, AOE, overal) - they need to use HP for 'Shields', or need to bait more Wings? (cos wings Up all ur dmg and crit and so on).
@@ИванПрокофьев-б8м No it is not worth baiting if everyone is full HP, only if you need to heal people. The RNG is only 15% chance for a wing proc
@@Zmokamok Ty for ur answer.
You should know - you are watched all over the world. Thank u for ur work. GL.
@@ИванПрокофьев-б8м Thanks a lot! ❤️
Will Kyrian overtake venth at renown 57?
Not sure if it will ovetake, but it will be really good for sure!
@@Zmokamok are you going to test divine resonance legendary even though it was nerfed as you said? Or is it really just that bad to you now? It would be amazing if ret and holy both had that as a fantastic choice. One can dream. Hah
@@Ditronus. I honestly think the 50% nerf killed the legendary. Might still be good for ret paladin tho
Shock Barrier is too good, idk why mad paragon.
Mad Paragon helps with damage, which Shock Barrier does not. Healer damage means a lot when you go into higher keys
@@Zmokamok i like your argument but those higher keys people get 2 -3 shotted especially on fort raging, that shock barriere means life or death some times.
@@brianshrimp5824 Nah trust me it really aint worth it in M+
If people know what they are doing, they are not getting randomly oneshot, they will pre-pop a defensive
@@brianshrimp5824 If you are venthyr you should choose The mad paragon cause it gives you 30% more damage on Hammer of Wrath plus with each Hammer of Wrath you make your wings last longer(ashen increases HoW dmg by 100%) But when you are Kyrian The shock barrier is the best because it shields 5 targets, plus gimmer so you just pop Divine toll and have glimmer and the shock barrier on every party member. Hope i helped!
Theotar buffs are just too good too miss, i mean speed and avoidance when well fed and 4 hours of 3 percent crit, haste, intellect or versa, i mean that's way better than Nadia
And Light of the martyr conduit is really good
Yeah I have been playing a bit with it as well recently
+ wasteland giving you extra verse during ashen
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I promise u venthir going to b nerfed to the ground soon there is no way it stay were it's at love it to death but
Yeah maybe, but only time will tell. If they nerf ashen too much it will be useless since it is a 4 minute cd, so it is supposed to be strong
Put down Ashen > Done!
#NerfAshenDmg!
bro i dont play shadowlands