I agree 100%, people running the same tracks over and over it gets stale. I LOVE to see the servers that rotate tracks. It changes it up, and you don't have to switch servers to just change the track. Game is slowly getting boring for me unfortunately but hopefully that changes soon, I just need to see some fresh tracks on the server list, playing by myself in testing on the tracks I wanna play gets boring.
Many new players to MX Bikes struggle with the game's initial setup and customization. Unlike more streamlined games, MX Bikes requires players to download and install additional mods or content before they can fully enjoy the experience. This can be overwhelming for those unfamiliar with the modding process or who simply want a plug-and-play experience. Unless players actively follow content creators or gaming communities, they may not be aware of these necessary steps, leading to frustration and a potentially negative first impression of the game and as a result, just stop playing overall.
Bump for agree - i’ve bought two friends into playing MX bikes and it took two weeks of sitting down with them, showing them how to install mods and do set up in the game and there’s some kind of bug that goes around that erases all of your settings I’ve had it happen to me three times and as soon as that happened to them, they never touch the game again because it was so difficult to set it up again
i get this comment but alot of realy popular pc games rely on independent devs to make the game good. its just kinda part of playing Indie pc games. coming from console and playing only triple A titles it can be alot but its just kinda how it is
depending on download time it takes 4 minutes to download new tracks, coming from a console i was obsessed with being able to mod the game, i installed just about everything, its not like you have to re code the game. if they want to plug and play then they can go play legends? the fact is most people play walnut and yet you have to download that track anyway, so it’d be no different to start playing these newer tracks
Piboso needs to add stuff to the game like imagine a fast lap leaderboard in game where you could see the fastest laps on each track or a stats page where you could see how many hours you have with each bike or if it showed how many laps you have ran total in mx bikes I feel like those types of things would make the game so much more interesting
the main problem is there is not enough concurrent players to do like a/b class riders like the mxbmm a/b servers are never full maybe like 3 to 4 riders witch is not fun either
I would love to see servers pushed by content creators with rotating tracks, and cooperation with the mxb mods team to make it possible to download ONE zip file with the entire track rotation for a server. Just unzip and drop into the /mods folder. I am guilty of sorting servers by number of clients connected or hiding missing contents, so unless I am specifically looking for a track I often miss it.
Needs to be like arma reforger where you download and store the mods from each server once you join it, and if another server shares a mod, you don't have to redownload it.
@@BigDaddyLanny I agree, that would be absolutely ideal, but that would require help from the game developer... think its more realistic to just download all and click the "replace all" if you already have the track. If only it worked as smoothly with console players too.
I feel like that one of the biggest problems of this game is how un-streamlined it is. For example, it can be quite frustrating that as a player, I have to download a track and install it beforehand to join an online race, rather than having it automatically downloaded and installed when I connect to the server with a prompt (I mean, most games with custom servers have this feature). Obviously, this approach would not makes sense for paid tracks, but that goes beyond the point. Even though I know how to install mods, the process is far from streamlined. Also, I think that It would be great to see features like in-game leaderboards that can be accessed directly and the ability to race against ghosts. This game has so much potential but lacks certain features, which goes the gameplay itself, that could really keep players engaged long-term.
i really think piboso needs to study how iracing does their online races. set series, with set tracks, rotating each week. there can be series with free/stock tracks for people getting into the game, but if you want to get into better tracks or you start going up the the classes (Rookie, C, B, A, etc.) you can choose to pay for those tracks/series. would make people take the races more seriously too i bet if you had a class system in game
As someone who has played the game since 2021. I can confirm piboso just doesnt rly care. Bro took 2 and a half years to fix a glitch that would crash everyone in the server if you crashed too hard into a tree or fence 😂
Newbie here with 300 hrs. I run a 1:01 on club, a 1:07 on forest but, I go to ARL tracks and can't even make a full lap. The transition from Stock Tracks to Pro Tracks is such an experience gap that its not fun for me. I would love to race the Pro Tracks but, its not fun for me. Thats why i love watching you, Lynds, Troy, Braydo, Aiden, Cam, Neon..........etc
I feel you I’m not too far from qualifying but it’s just not fun for me I got burned out after like 2 rounds of trying the tracks just feel like they don’t even belong on the game in my opinion I’ve bought Mx sim since then and because the skill gap his higher the pro tracks feel much better
Would love to see more professionalism brought to this game, Not sure if you have played Assetto Corsa Competizione, but a few QOL changes that would work here... 1)in the server list, showing how much time is left in warmup so you don't load in and then the race has already started. 2)implementing a SAFETY RATING and having servers that have a minimum Safety Rating allowed to enter the server. It incentivizes you to not crash others constantly. 3) Would love to see servers do a weekly track? I dont grind the game alot, so I do like to hop on a familiar track, but the same 5-6 tracks (Paleta, Walnut, Farm14, Mouse, CountrySide). I perosnally think the game has plateud which is normal, in order to grow they need to grow, Maybe we will get some changes. But for me, start a Safety Rating.
It sucks so bad that we get the same tracks all the time on this game. Whats worst is that only the servers with those tracks get a big amount of players so you almost have to play them
The biggest thing I can think of is the ability to download tracks in between/before the track starts in online. Cause really it's a hassle of backing out and then dloading. What if the server can give the ability to download the next track etc during warmup. And an elo system/ranked server would be awesome!
100% agree. When I stream, I try my best to try as many new tracks as possible. Just today, we played two new tracks. I like to show off the new tracks even if they are paid ones.
I agree 100% call piboso, tell him to delete the stock tracks from the game, and just fully lean into the community supported side of things, let us take care of the bikes, tracks, etc. He can take care of thr updates hahaha
To the brand new players that are seeing this video, play random tracks and join random races. Racing on the same track will not make you better at the game. Forest is a great track but going from daytona supercross to redbudd motocross and then go to foxraceway and then go back to forest, you will be much better. You need a variety of tracks and even bikes, to get better at this game.
This is the exact reason why my friend and I haven't played in a while. We were grinding until we were able to ride without crashing but after running the same maps 40x over and having to deal with 2-4 kids throwing the race it really burnt the game out. Would be on playing if different maps were in rotation, Have only played new maps when an streamer hosts their own races.
This games biggest issue is the barrier to entry honestly. Convinced a friend to get it who isn’t very tech savvy and he spent over an hour just getting bikes installed let alone a couple decent tracks
I think the case for newer players is finding a track they finally get some decent lap times on, and sticking to that and not wanting to venture out and take an L somewhere else, so then the same few tracks stay in rotation. I can't convince any friends to get the game because they exclude mods and feel the game is incredibly bare bones for 5 years old and $35, considering the AI is almost nonexistent, there's no in-game progression tracking and no reward system which is a necessity for a lot of people, I think the issue may be past a community level, not sure, just my .02
Agreed. The variety of tracks has saturated the game and choices tho. I end up racing my ghosts half the time. Big turn off for me is the Ping and netcode, find myself getting dunked off the start 80% of the time and then just getting wreck after wreck. Its hard to enjoy battling when you try have fun and give space and choose different lines and they straight up boot you into oblivion if you do pass, it's toxic.
THANK YOU! Im sick of wanting to race online but all i end up seeing is KMX Country Side, Maryland, Washington, and Forest. Its getting stale and boring
It’s so annoying. Everytime we get on our server we put up new tracks or tracks that aren’t on normal servers but it sure would be nice to see some more in the normal servers that are usually always there running the same handful over and over….
Totally agree. Makes the game feel stale running the same tracks. Would be way more fun with a good ranked system that has badges or icons that show your rank, so there is actually some incentive to race and make it more fun. Maybe go Bronze, Silver, Gold, Diamond, etc. Or Pro, A, B, C, D with different badges for each rank.
w vid, it gets to that point where the only lobbies up are just the SUPERRR easy tracks and for someone with maybe 1000+ maybe even less they are just very boring. I'll never understand why there isn't loadsss of lobbies up on all the free mods tracks or even the shop tracks. The amount of times i fancy hopping on bikes, i see 5 lobbies up on stock tracks and just close the game again is crazy.
I think we need a license system where you work to get to a class or b class and you can only race the races for your class. Then you can have servers on a ton of tracks for the license you have.
I raced on across the sea in a server yesterday with about 15 people, it was fun, people need to host the newer tracks more often. Imo there should be servers for newer tracks and servers for old or classic tracks
I think the problem is that the 24/7 servers aren't playing the more difficult tracks. I think the reason for this is that it is hard for newer players to figure out how to download and add tracks with all of the server/nonserver tracks that you have to download.
I only have 50 hours so I'm still learning, I'm willing to learn new tracks but I still grind the older tracks because I'm comfy but not tired of them yet. Trying to not embarrass myself too much
I used to get every new tracks that seemed fun to me, but now i rarely get any (I dont even have across the sea) because I barely see any new tracks in servers.
Imo I think why ppl play the same like 10 or less tracks across the servers is because people don’t like change. But at the same time, we’re always wanting new things. It’s a weird situation
The game's difficulty is what makes it special however it is quite a process to optimise controller settings with direct lean, smoothing and linearity that could be set default to the slightly more arcade-ish side. Mods integrated into base game as a mod menu would also break down a big barrier for new players.
I think what would be cool is a integrated rank/class system for both tracks and riders. Each track can have a ranked level, (like practice can be level 1-2, club 3-5, etc) and as you progress via online leaderboards, you can unlock the next track/class and race with others in the same group/class as you. Obviously not hard locking, if you want to race in a higher class you can, and maybe earn extra points for doing well, but vice versa for high levels in lower classes (and a cap, where you can't get sandbagged hard, like a pro in a noob class, but intermediate can have either pro or beginner in it as well) ALSO, a integrated track/bike download option for servers. So when you load into a server if you don't have the map, the game will download for you. (Maybe have a setting in an .Ini file for paid mods that prevent this)
It comes down to the populated servers running the same tracks. Bwizz for instance could probably get 70% of the users on the game to play different maps just by putting them on his servers that are always populated. I tried running a Dedicated server for a month with cool paid and free tracks. It was hard to consistently get people to join if it didn't already have 5-7+ riders in the lobby.
As a player w under 20hrs Idk what tracks are easy enough for me to actually learn on so downloading them seems like a waste of everyones time. I can get around the track on like 2 maps rn
I thought about this a few days ago. While I agree with everything you said here, I think there’s also another element on top of this. Netcode. Stock tracks are a lot easier to navigate with the netcode. Rougher tracks are a lot harder to race with others. That’s my thoughts on it. I love the idea of track creators having 24/7 servers though. I’d love to see it as much as I’d love to see netcode fixed!
Im still brand new so I just be testing. Hopping into races takes a while and then I just ride sloppy so I like spending my time just rockin out with my ghost. Ill get to the lobbys eventually. 💯
What you say at 7:00 is almost 100% how mxbmm works :) If an A class player joins a D/C class server with the easy tracks they get kicked. And manny other cool features. Love the feedback and would love to talk more about it on discord, we just wanna make the best system for the community, from newb to pro
Ranked match making would be lit. But it only places you in lobbies that you have the content downloaded and people of your skill level. Based on lap times and placements.
Mx bikes lacks the fun factor, used to be able to throw up a server on a random track and just play, dedicated servers cost a fortune to someone who is younger (a lot of the players) and can’t justify getting $15 a month the game they already paid 30 for just to make everyone else happy
i have a theory, I think it is because when the new comers get the game, everyone introduces walnut, farm, country side to them and they is what that new person learns on then it becomes the track they are good at and that is why they stick to that track because then they go to a different track and struggle for a bit and end up going back to what they are good at and learned at.
The game is really like grey at the moment... For me, the community is not that fun either... I'm a good rider ( avergage one or 2 second slower than pros) and I either get kick because I am too fast or people try to take me out everywhere... I love Kellz tracks and popular custom tracks ( I hate stocks) but I think I did 1k laps more on each of them... I love the almost str8 but only 2 gates... Most of new tracks don't race goood sooo yeah... the game is in weird spot. I don't think paid track, or ranked system will help. I think standalone series like FAM (MXSIM) would really help to create racing maps. Not just one line ''fun'' tracks...
you spoke on every topic needed here!, Completely agreed and we really need some people to push this idea, Would be an absolute shame to see this games downfall happen because of this!/ though I think this game doesn't have a very strong community backing it that 1. doesnt care enough 2. cannot make as much of a change as we would want/need 🤷♂
any idea is a great one, but the biggest thing would just be more players. the reason most of the races are on the same tracks is cause nobody wants to start a lobby on cairo and wait 4 hours for it to populate if at all. also an actual match making, not server browsing. give people time outs for leaving cause they dont like the track. but those things only work with more players. but when theres only 4 lobbies in warm up for a race and 2 are walnut the others are forest and walnut v2, you dont have much of a choice. its either join them and race, or make a lobby for maybe 3 people to join over 6 hours. as for getting gapped, i mean theres not very many players that should be going into a race thinking they will win. most leavers leave cause lap 1 involved 6 crashes cause of other riders, and being real, 90% of the community has aboslutely no idea how to race at all, let alone race dirt bikes. just crashing everyone out left and right cause they cant respect another persons race. all the guys that crash and immdiately cross the entire track to turn back around, yall are fuckin up. i know im gonna get hated on for this, but i think a lap 1 with no collisions would do wonders for races. or even half a lap, or like 20 seconds. let all the dudes that cant make t1 crash out with out killing half the field.
Bro thank you so much for bringing this problem up cause you are not alone here on this man I fr have slowed down with playing this game for the simple fact everyone is stuck on playing the tracks I was playing 4 mo the ago when I first got my pc and the game lol. If I end up playing man I play offline where I can pick whatever track I want tbh . But solutions would be something to give people that incentive to ride other tracks that's all I can think of tbh
The whole server issue is crazy now I don’t understand why we have 10 dedicated servers only running walnut forest etc. there needs to be more dedicated rotation servers that rotate tracks. The only time I see good rotation is when Kelso smoke Lynda and you stream. 2fast needs to add some rotation servers up for sure
I only ever log on to play the ranked servers but they're always empty apart from the lowest ELO one for some reason, probably whole server is filled with smurfs anyway
my opinion on why everyone plays the same 6 tracks.. 90 % ( maybe more) of the player base is causal players that hop on and play a few races on a track they know/ good at.
i’m at 700 hours, managed to quali pro both indoor and outdoor and i’m bored of the game. it’s a shame, i’m not one to be able to sit and hot lap the new outdoor tracks as i like to just sit back and enjoy the game (i’ll use the kx and the rmz instead of the meta bikes) and if i want to play online in a stacked lobby im winning on mouse by like 2 minutes.
Theres no benefit to playing multiplayer unless youre trying to perfect your race craft for ARL imo. No real awards or achievements to be made so why even bother getting mad at people taking you out when you can play singleplayer. Personally I love playing multiplayer and dont care what track is being played because I want to race others.
The thing that really sucks is I wanna play with someone that I met on mx vs atv and he helped me get into the game but he lives too far to do lobby’s that one of us hosts and there’s only like 4 maps to play on that we can connect and it’s always farm 14 paleta v2 forest or big send or a random one that rotates
Pro only server? If you’ve qualed for a pro race it will let you in, if not it would show something like “not whitelisted”. Tracks be on a rotation. Also encourage players to grind harder tracks to get faster so they can join better servers? Just a thought
i have 200 hours but at about 150 mark i actually went into pub lobby's, would see Troy's vid and watch him get sent to the moon by people that don't have a clue on how to race, super frustrating getting punted in the first corner every race
I starting playing right when mouse and the new oems came out. I played washougal 55 times this past week I’m over it. I got off lastnight and was in testing alone for 2 hours on MTF didn’t play online at all there was no lobby’s on anything I wanted to play
We’d benefit from a Splatoon Type system where there's 3 tracks a day. You can have a paid track set of servers and free track sets of servers and a website that links to where you can get each track for that day and people can go on see the tracks in rotation for the day have links to download the track and hop in the server and it changes every day to keep it fresh. People being in the know of the tracks that day will stop them getting booted out for not having the track when it switches too getting rid of that frustration or possible issue.
ive only got 50 ish hours in the game, and ive been modding bethesda titles and the like for near a decade now so the modding isnt an issue for me. but the fact that a game that is so barebones and so community driven doesnt have an in game mod loader or anything of the sort is insane. even for example launching an online lobby with a free track doesnt just download the track for you, or download everyones skins for you so its seemless and you can get right into the action is wild to me.
its because the player base thinks they are better than they actually are and once they try a new track and arnt going super quick they think its a track issue and not a skill issue. people will continue to go back to the good ole bread and butter.
Kinda I get decent lap times on pro tracks by decent I mean not qualifying by 2 seconds it just gets boring fast because they don’t feel good I don’t know how to explain it other then saying the tracks feel unnatural or the games too easy so let’s make the most roughest track idk just my opinion I’ve been playing sims pro tracks and they feel so much better
People might not agree but with you about the ranked system but I agree because I just got walnut v2 and there’s not really any challenge and I would love to play people my skill level
When i released poor boyz, i bought a dedi. If i got some friends to sit in the lobby it would populate, however as soon as the server has an issue/goes down and needs to be restarted it no longer shows up in the server list because most people sort the server list first of all excluding tracks they dont own (need to remove this feature) and then they sort by popularity. With there being hundreds, if not thousands of servers available at all times, the server just gets buried, and no one even knows it's there. IMO we need to ditch the filter that excludes tracks you dont own so that people can see that theres actually a lot more servers available than they think, and replace it with a "show dedicated servers only" since 60% of the time non dedis give a connection time out error. I eventually canceled my dedi a few months after releasing motopark because if i wasn't actively in there to show at least a player count of 1, no one knew the server even existed.
Also, we just need to replicate iracing. The main lobbies are serious, where you're working towards something, grouped by skill and safety, and people actually held accountable for just riding around intentionally wrecking people. Have a separate section of servers for the free for all crash fest servers.
We need servers that are practice only with free tracks rotating throughout the day that auto download when you connect. This would be excellent for building the community. Especially if theres VOIP. Exactly like the CSGO community servers were. Id be on those servers everyday instead of turning laps alone offline. The game would grow because people would connect and play just to hangout and talk without wanting to actually race. Im not sure how the coding is in the game but if you consider how DayZ handles its moded lobbies with a launcher, i think its probably possible if a third party community launcher was created by someone to handle the autodownloading and connection.
I really like how Bwizz and a couple others have a bunch of dedicated servers for each track, good for grinding those. On the flip side I really like the ranked servers MXBMM with a quick 10min warmup and 3-5 lap races and a longer track list. Its really nice to switch tracks and its better for learning to get more well rounded (not to mention my short attention span). As Eric says in his comment below, the barrier to entry is too high with all the mods and all that stuff is annoying for many people. The front tire slide is a big hurdle for new players too, especially if you have no idea what the bike setup means and all that. Piboso needs to update the base game and the DEMO with the OEM bikes and a nice looking track to introduce people to what the game can be. The demo is horrible and turned off some of my friends.
I get super bored looking at the server list, all the same tracks. I just rotate between CountrySide, BigSend, and just a couple others. Rotating tracks on a list in one server actually keeps it fresh and addictive, like in MX Legends.
I think PIboso is the problem. This game could be so much bigger if the developer cared and actually tried to improve and expand on MX bikes. He could produce an actual ranked system instead of the servers we have now
Probably has something to do with it not launching. I bought this game 2 weeks ago bc of your videos and I still have 0min played. I have tried EVERYTHING and I still have never made it to the menu. Multiple emails sent to support over the past 2 weeks, no response.
Thank you bringing up this topic, seeing the 24/7 tracks only have the most overplayed tracks is not fun at all. Shit gets old.
I agree 100%, people running the same tracks over and over it gets stale. I LOVE to see the servers that rotate tracks. It changes it up, and you don't have to switch servers to just change the track. Game is slowly getting boring for me unfortunately but hopefully that changes soon, I just need to see some fresh tracks on the server list, playing by myself in testing on the tracks I wanna play gets boring.
Many new players to MX Bikes struggle with the game's initial setup and customization. Unlike more streamlined games, MX Bikes requires players to download and install additional mods or content before they can fully enjoy the experience. This can be overwhelming for those unfamiliar with the modding process or who simply want a plug-and-play experience. Unless players actively follow content creators or gaming communities, they may not be aware of these necessary steps, leading to frustration and a potentially negative first impression of the game and as a result, just stop playing overall.
Definitely agree
Bump for agree - i’ve bought two friends into playing MX bikes and it took two weeks of sitting down with them, showing them how to install mods and do set up in the game and there’s some kind of bug that goes around that erases all of your settings I’ve had it happen to me three times and as soon as that happened to them, they never touch the game again because it was so difficult to set it up again
i get this comment but alot of realy popular pc games rely on independent devs to make the game good. its just kinda part of playing Indie pc games. coming from console and playing only triple A titles it can be alot but its just kinda how it is
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depending on download time it takes 4 minutes to download new tracks, coming from a console i was obsessed with being able to mod the game, i installed just about everything, its not like you have to re code the game. if they want to plug and play then they can go play legends? the fact is most people play walnut and yet you have to download that track anyway, so it’d be no different to start playing these newer tracks
I've been feeling this way too! I'm sick of playing the same 3 tracks over and over again.
Piboso needs to add stuff to the game like imagine a fast lap leaderboard in game where you could see the fastest laps on each track or a stats page where you could see how many hours you have with each bike or if it showed how many laps you have ran total in mx bikes I feel like those types of things would make the game so much more interesting
the main problem is there is not enough concurrent players to do like a/b class riders like the mxbmm a/b servers are never full maybe like 3 to 4 riders witch is not fun either
I would love to see servers pushed by content creators with rotating tracks, and cooperation with the mxb mods team to make it possible to download ONE zip file with the entire track rotation for a server. Just unzip and drop into the /mods folder. I am guilty of sorting servers by number of clients connected or hiding missing contents, so unless I am specifically looking for a track I often miss it.
Needs to be like arma reforger where you download and store the mods from each server once you join it, and if another server shares a mod, you don't have to redownload it.
@@BigDaddyLanny I agree, that would be absolutely ideal, but that would require help from the game developer... think its more realistic to just download all and click the "replace all" if you already have the track. If only it worked as smoothly with console players too.
@@ARTEMISAERO yeah this game dev works on .5 speed so I imagine that won't happen lol
I feel like that one of the biggest problems of this game is how un-streamlined it is. For example, it can be quite frustrating that as a player, I have to download a track and install it beforehand to join an online race, rather than having it automatically downloaded and installed when I connect to the server with a prompt (I mean, most games with custom servers have this feature). Obviously, this approach would not makes sense for paid tracks, but that goes beyond the point. Even though I know how to install mods, the process is far from streamlined. Also, I think that It would be great to see features like in-game leaderboards that can be accessed directly and the ability to race against ghosts. This game has so much potential but lacks certain features, which goes the gameplay itself, that could really keep players engaged long-term.
i really think piboso needs to study how iracing does their online races. set series, with set tracks, rotating each week. there can be series with free/stock tracks for people getting into the game, but if you want to get into better tracks or you start going up the the classes (Rookie, C, B, A, etc.) you can choose to pay for those tracks/series. would make people take the races more seriously too i bet if you had a class system in game
He doesn’t give a shit about racing
As someone who has played the game since 2021. I can confirm piboso just doesnt rly care. Bro took 2 and a half years to fix a glitch that would crash everyone in the server if you crashed too hard into a tree or fence 😂
Between the same tracks always being played and no one on servers actually starting races I've basically given up playing multiplayer at all.
Newbie here with 300 hrs. I run a 1:01 on club, a 1:07 on forest but, I go to ARL tracks and can't even make a full lap. The transition from Stock Tracks to Pro Tracks is such an experience gap that its not fun for me. I would love to race the Pro Tracks but, its not fun for me. Thats why i love watching you, Lynds, Troy, Braydo, Aiden, Cam, Neon..........etc
I feel you I’m not too far from qualifying but it’s just not fun for me I got burned out after like 2 rounds of trying the tracks just feel like they don’t even belong on the game in my opinion I’ve bought Mx sim since then and because the skill gap his higher the pro tracks feel much better
Would love to see more professionalism brought to this game, Not sure if you have played Assetto Corsa Competizione, but a few QOL changes that would work here... 1)in the server list, showing how much time is left in warmup so you don't load in and then the race has already started. 2)implementing a SAFETY RATING and having servers that have a minimum Safety Rating allowed to enter the server. It incentivizes you to not crash others constantly. 3) Would love to see servers do a weekly track? I dont grind the game alot, so I do like to hop on a familiar track, but the same 5-6 tracks (Paleta, Walnut, Farm14, Mouse, CountrySide). I perosnally think the game has plateud which is normal, in order to grow they need to grow, Maybe we will get some changes. But for me, start a Safety Rating.
It sucks so bad that we get the same tracks all the time on this game. Whats worst is that only the servers with those tracks get a big amount of players so you almost have to play them
The biggest thing I can think of is the ability to download tracks in between/before the track starts in online. Cause really it's a hassle of backing out and then dloading. What if the server can give the ability to download the next track etc during warmup. And an elo system/ranked server would be awesome!
Someone just needs to make a launcher that does that. Like Assetto Corsa with the Content Manager.
@ivanafeelcool9143 exactly. I was thinking in my head how to di it. Almost maybe like a pull repository.
100% agree. When I stream, I try my best to try as many new tracks as possible. Just today, we played two new tracks. I like to show off the new tracks even if they are paid ones.
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Definetly agree, would be much nicer if more uncommon tracks were being used
I agree 100% call piboso, tell him to delete the stock tracks from the game, and just fully lean into the community supported side of things, let us take care of the bikes, tracks, etc. He can take care of thr updates hahaha
To the brand new players that are seeing this video, play random tracks and join random races. Racing on the same track will not make you better at the game. Forest is a great track but going from daytona supercross to redbudd motocross and then go to foxraceway and then go back to forest, you will be much better. You need a variety of tracks and even bikes, to get better at this game.
This is the exact reason why my friend and I haven't played in a while.
We were grinding until we were able to ride without crashing but after running the same maps 40x over and having to deal with 2-4 kids throwing the race it really burnt the game out.
Would be on playing if different maps were in rotation, Have only played new maps when an streamer hosts their own races.
thats why i love smoksta everytime a new track drops and he is streaming he loads the dedi up with all the new tracks and we all race them
This games biggest issue is the barrier to entry honestly. Convinced a friend to get it who isn’t very tech savvy and he spent over an hour just getting bikes installed let alone a couple decent tracks
Well I just bought the game yesterday and have 12 hours already, so..... PROGRESS XD
@@therealmattseal love to see it
I can not even join most of the servers because of "connection timeout". So many dont show any ping
I think the case for newer players is finding a track they finally get some decent lap times on, and sticking to that and not wanting to venture out and take an L somewhere else, so then the same few tracks stay in rotation. I can't convince any friends to get the game because they exclude mods and feel the game is incredibly bare bones for 5 years old and $35, considering the AI is almost nonexistent, there's no in-game progression tracking and no reward system which is a necessity for a lot of people, I think the issue may be past a community level, not sure, just my .02
Agreed. The variety of tracks has saturated the game and choices tho. I end up racing my ghosts half the time.
Big turn off for me is the Ping and netcode, find myself getting dunked off the start 80% of the time and then just getting wreck after wreck. Its hard to enjoy battling when you try have fun and give space and choose different lines and they straight up boot you into oblivion if you do pass, it's toxic.
THANK YOU! Im sick of wanting to race online but all i end up seeing is KMX Country Side, Maryland, Washington, and Forest. Its getting stale and boring
Your thumbnail was too good it drew me in
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@REAPERDOC also btw I don't think it's a game issue I think it's a player base issue
It’s so annoying. Everytime we get on our server we put up new tracks or tracks that aren’t on normal servers but it sure would be nice to see some more in the normal servers that are usually always there running the same handful over and over….
It’s because the 2 week break outdoors had and how long it takes for them to drop the tracks. MX vs atv sucks but they are quicker with dropping stuff
I buy alot of tracks but always play with a few ppl who wont have bought the tracks. Its sometimes that we bought different tracks too
Totally agree. Makes the game feel stale running the same tracks.
Would be way more fun with a good ranked system that has badges or icons that show your rank, so there is actually some incentive to race and make it more fun.
Maybe go Bronze, Silver, Gold, Diamond, etc. Or Pro, A, B, C, D with different badges for each rank.
w vid, it gets to that point where the only lobbies up are just the SUPERRR easy tracks and for someone with maybe 1000+ maybe even less they are just very boring. I'll never understand why there isn't loadsss of lobbies up on all the free mods tracks or even the shop tracks. The amount of times i fancy hopping on bikes, i see 5 lobbies up on stock tracks and just close the game again is crazy.
I think we need a license system where you work to get to a class or b class and you can only race the races for your class. Then you can have servers on a ton of tracks for the license you have.
I raced on across the sea in a server yesterday with about 15 people, it was fun, people need to host the newer tracks more often.
Imo there should be servers for newer tracks and servers for old or classic tracks
I think the problem is that the 24/7 servers aren't playing the more difficult tracks. I think the reason for this is that it is hard for newer players to figure out how to download and add tracks with all of the server/nonserver tracks that you have to download.
I only have 50 hours so I'm still learning, I'm willing to learn new tracks but I still grind the older tracks because I'm comfy but not tired of them yet. Trying to not embarrass myself too much
Summer + boring server list has killed it for me
So real man I swear every time I play these same maps I gap everybody by minutes and it gets so boring
This exact issue had me thinking i should pay for a server and put a fresh track rotation on it.
I used to get every new tracks that seemed fun to me, but now i rarely get any (I dont even have across the sea) because I barely see any new tracks in servers.
Imo I think why ppl play the same like 10 or less tracks across the servers is because people don’t like change. But at the same time, we’re always wanting new things. It’s a weird situation
I used to grind legends until I bought a pc. All I miss from that Game is the leader boards
Leaderboards would make the game 100 times better
The game's difficulty is what makes it special however it is quite a process to optimise controller settings with direct lean, smoothing and linearity that could be set default to the slightly more arcade-ish side. Mods integrated into base game as a mod menu would also break down a big barrier for new players.
I agree with the doc on this paid track do well and many people buy them, but many people got so good on them and now there scared to switch.
I think what would be cool is a integrated rank/class system for both tracks and riders.
Each track can have a ranked level, (like practice can be level 1-2, club 3-5, etc) and as you progress via online leaderboards, you can unlock the next track/class and race with others in the same group/class as you.
Obviously not hard locking, if you want to race in a higher class you can, and maybe earn extra points for doing well, but vice versa for high levels in lower classes (and a cap, where you can't get sandbagged hard, like a pro in a noob class, but intermediate can have either pro or beginner in it as well)
ALSO, a integrated track/bike download option for servers. So when you load into a server if you don't have the map, the game will download for you. (Maybe have a setting in an .Ini file for paid mods that prevent this)
I'm new to mx bikes , but am a sim racer , LFM has prob the best free ranked system.. .. perhaps the top lads need to speak to them
It comes down to the populated servers running the same tracks. Bwizz for instance could probably get 70% of the users on the game to play different maps just by putting them on his servers that are always populated. I tried running a Dedicated server for a month with cool paid and free tracks. It was hard to consistently get people to join if it didn't already have 5-7+ riders in the lobby.
As a player w under 20hrs Idk what tracks are easy enough for me to actually learn on so downloading them seems like a waste of everyones time. I can get around the track on like 2 maps rn
I thought about this a few days ago. While I agree with everything you said here, I think there’s also another element on top of this. Netcode. Stock tracks are a lot easier to navigate with the netcode. Rougher tracks are a lot harder to race with others. That’s my thoughts on it. I love the idea of track creators having 24/7 servers though. I’d love to see it as much as I’d love to see netcode fixed!
Netcode is Garbo for sure!!!
Im still brand new so I just be testing. Hopping into races takes a while and then I just ride sloppy so I like spending my time just rockin out with my ghost. Ill get to the lobbys eventually. 💯
What you say at 7:00 is almost 100% how mxbmm works :)
If an A class player joins a D/C class server with the easy tracks they get kicked. And manny other cool features.
Love the feedback and would love to talk more about it on discord, we just wanna make the best system for the community, from newb to pro
I have over 500gb of mods and have played the exact same tracks for hundreds and hundreds of hours. Can't wrap my mind round it either!
Ranked match making would be lit. But it only places you in lobbies that you have the content downloaded and people of your skill level. Based on lap times and placements.
My thoughts exactly brother been tired of playing the same tracks
Mx bikes lacks the fun factor, used to be able to throw up a server on a random track and just play, dedicated servers cost a fortune to someone who is younger (a lot of the players) and can’t justify getting $15 a month the game they already paid 30 for just to make everyone else happy
i have a theory, I think it is because when the new comers get the game, everyone introduces walnut, farm, country side to them and they is what that new person learns on then it becomes the track they are good at and that is why they stick to that track because then they go to a different track and struggle for a bit and end up going back to what they are good at and learned at.
@@KingMX818 100%.. also ily and miss you ❤️
The game is really like grey at the moment... For me, the community is not that fun either... I'm a good rider ( avergage one or 2 second slower than pros) and I either get kick because I am too fast or people try to take me out everywhere... I love Kellz tracks and popular custom tracks ( I hate stocks) but I think I did 1k laps more on each of them... I love the almost str8 but only 2 gates... Most of new tracks don't race goood sooo yeah... the game is in weird spot. I don't think paid track, or ranked system will help. I think standalone series like FAM (MXSIM) would really help to create racing maps. Not just one line ''fun'' tracks...
you spoke on every topic needed here!, Completely agreed and we really need some people to push this idea, Would be an absolute shame to see this games downfall happen because of this!/ though I think this game doesn't have a very strong community backing it that 1. doesnt care enough 2. cannot make as much of a change as we would want/need 🤷♂
I think a ranking system would help to an extent. Use a rating system how iRacing does it would definitely help with that.
any idea is a great one, but the biggest thing would just be more players. the reason most of the races are on the same tracks is cause nobody wants to start a lobby on cairo and wait 4 hours for it to populate if at all. also an actual match making, not server browsing. give people time outs for leaving cause they dont like the track. but those things only work with more players. but when theres only 4 lobbies in warm up for a race and 2 are walnut the others are forest and walnut v2, you dont have much of a choice. its either join them and race, or make a lobby for maybe 3 people to join over 6 hours. as for getting gapped, i mean theres not very many players that should be going into a race thinking they will win. most leavers leave cause lap 1 involved 6 crashes cause of other riders, and being real, 90% of the community has aboslutely no idea how to race at all, let alone race dirt bikes. just crashing everyone out left and right cause they cant respect another persons race. all the guys that crash and immdiately cross the entire track to turn back around, yall are fuckin up. i know im gonna get hated on for this, but i think a lap 1 with no collisions would do wonders for races. or even half a lap, or like 20 seconds. let all the dudes that cant make t1 crash out with out killing half the field.
My favorite servers are the ones that rotate tracks, maybe have a 24hr server, that has a name like “track rotation” so people know
Bro thank you so much for bringing this problem up cause you are not alone here on this man I fr have slowed down with playing this game for the simple fact everyone is stuck on playing the tracks I was playing 4 mo the ago when I first got my pc and the game lol. If I end up playing man I play offline where I can pick whatever track I want tbh . But solutions would be something to give people that incentive to ride other tracks that's all I can think of tbh
The whole server issue is crazy now I don’t understand why we have 10 dedicated servers only running walnut forest etc. there needs to be more dedicated rotation servers that rotate tracks. The only time I see good rotation is when Kelso smoke Lynda and you stream. 2fast needs to add some rotation servers up for sure
I only ever log on to play the ranked servers but they're always empty apart from the lowest ELO one for some reason, probably whole server is filled with smurfs anyway
maybe add a leveling system and maybe have a thing where its like track of the week and it changes every week
The cause of this can also be that it is summer and everyone is away.
my opinion on why everyone plays the same 6 tracks.. 90 % ( maybe more) of the player base is causal players that hop on and play a few races on a track they know/ good at.
I would love to play the newer release tracks, but I never find anything on the server list besides the basic ones everyone always plays.
i’m at 700 hours, managed to quali pro both indoor and outdoor and i’m bored of the game. it’s a shame, i’m not one to be able to sit and hot lap the new outdoor tracks as i like to just sit back and enjoy the game (i’ll use the kx and the rmz instead of the meta bikes) and if i want to play online in a stacked lobby im winning on mouse by like 2 minutes.
Theres no benefit to playing multiplayer unless youre trying to perfect your race craft for ARL imo. No real awards or achievements to be made so why even bother getting mad at people taking you out when you can play singleplayer. Personally I love playing multiplayer and dont care what track is being played because I want to race others.
The thing that really sucks is I wanna play with someone that I met on mx vs atv and he helped me get into the game but he lives too far to do lobby’s that one of us hosts and there’s only like 4 maps to play on that we can connect and it’s always farm 14 paleta v2 forest or big send or a random one that rotates
Pro only server? If you’ve qualed for a pro race it will let you in, if not it would show something like “not whitelisted”. Tracks be on a rotation. Also encourage players to grind harder tracks to get faster so they can join better servers?
Just a thought
i have 200 hours but at about 150 mark i actually went into pub lobby's, would see Troy's vid and watch him get sent to the moon by people that don't have a clue on how to race, super frustrating getting punted in the first corner every race
I like the SBMM idea and ranking. It gives you an incentive to play
I starting playing right when mouse and the new oems came out. I played washougal 55 times this past week I’m over it. I got off lastnight and was in testing alone for 2 hours on MTF didn’t play online at all there was no lobby’s on anything I wanted to play
Do a video on the scrub variations and when to do those variations
Maybe because a lot of the good tracks are paid, that could definitely drive people away
The classic 24/7 forest track are for psyco peaople
As a reward for ranking up you could get like a special graphics kit for that rank or a gear set
We’d benefit from a Splatoon Type system where there's 3 tracks a day.
You can have a paid track set of servers and free track sets of servers and a website that links to where you can get each track for that day and people can go on see the tracks in rotation for the day have links to download the track and hop in the server and it changes every day to keep it fresh.
People being in the know of the tracks that day will stop them getting booted out for not having the track when it switches too getting rid of that frustration or possible issue.
ive only got 50 ish hours in the game, and ive been modding bethesda titles and the like for near a decade now so the modding isnt an issue for me. but the fact that a game that is so barebones and so community driven doesnt have an in game mod loader or anything of the sort is insane. even for example launching an online lobby with a free track doesnt just download the track for you, or download everyones skins for you so its seemless and you can get right into the action is wild to me.
Relatively new to bikes, is there a place where there is a leader board that you can upload your fast lap times from testing?
its because the player base thinks they are better than they actually are and once they try a new track and arnt going super quick they think its a track issue and not a skill issue. people will continue to go back to the good ole bread and butter.
Kinda I get decent lap times on pro tracks by decent I mean not qualifying by 2 seconds it just gets boring fast because they don’t feel good I don’t know how to explain it other then saying the tracks feel unnatural or the games too easy so let’s make the most roughest track idk just my opinion I’ve been playing sims pro tracks and they feel so much better
People might not agree but with you about the ranked system but I agree because I just got walnut v2 and there’s not really any challenge and I would love to play people my skill level
Do counter leaning vs not counter leaning
W idea
An actual ranked system would be wicked
When i released poor boyz, i bought a dedi. If i got some friends to sit in the lobby it would populate, however as soon as the server has an issue/goes down and needs to be restarted it no longer shows up in the server list because most people sort the server list first of all excluding tracks they dont own (need to remove this feature) and then they sort by popularity. With there being hundreds, if not thousands of servers available at all times, the server just gets buried, and no one even knows it's there.
IMO we need to ditch the filter that excludes tracks you dont own so that people can see that theres actually a lot more servers available than they think, and replace it with a "show dedicated servers only" since 60% of the time non dedis give a connection time out error.
I eventually canceled my dedi a few months after releasing motopark because if i wasn't actively in there to show at least a player count of 1, no one knew the server even existed.
The biggest problem really is there’s too many sweats.. like that dude big country playing the game so much
Also, we just need to replicate iracing. The main lobbies are serious, where you're working towards something, grouped by skill and safety, and people actually held accountable for just riding around intentionally wrecking people. Have a separate section of servers for the free for all crash fest servers.
I, personally, would love to see an AI bot system for offline play implemented into this game.
sometimes you gotta give people to decide that this banger track is out.. some people arent up to date
We need servers that are practice only with free tracks rotating throughout the day that auto download when you connect. This would be excellent for building the community. Especially if theres VOIP. Exactly like the CSGO community servers were. Id be on those servers everyday instead of turning laps alone offline. The game would grow because people would connect and play just to hangout and talk without wanting to actually race.
Im not sure how the coding is in the game but if you consider how DayZ handles its moded lobbies with a launcher, i think its probably possible if a third party community launcher was created by someone to handle the autodownloading and connection.
I really like how Bwizz and a couple others have a bunch of dedicated servers for each track, good for grinding those. On the flip side I really like the ranked servers MXBMM with a quick 10min warmup and 3-5 lap races and a longer track list. Its really nice to switch tracks and its better for learning to get more well rounded (not to mention my short attention span). As Eric says in his comment below, the barrier to entry is too high with all the mods and all that stuff is annoying for many people. The front tire slide is a big hurdle for new players too, especially if you have no idea what the bike setup means and all that. Piboso needs to update the base game and the DEMO with the OEM bikes and a nice looking track to introduce people to what the game can be. The demo is horrible and turned off some of my friends.
I get super bored looking at the server list, all the same tracks. I just rotate between CountrySide, BigSend, and just a couple others. Rotating tracks on a list in one server actually keeps it fresh and addictive, like in MX Legends.
I think PIboso is the problem. This game could be so much bigger if the developer cared and actually tried to improve and expand on MX bikes. He could produce an actual ranked system instead of the servers we have now
I seen 7 servers of this track yesterday... but yea people need to play more varieties of tracks for sure
@@OneShotKilla_ REALLY?! What time were you playing?
What tires do you use on this track?
make your own server with rotations of the newest free tracks, I think it will pop off.
No mod manager. Also collisions suck ass. That's why I don't play online. I do testing only
What's your yz 250 bike setup
Probably has something to do with it not launching. I bought this game 2 weeks ago bc of your videos and I still have 0min played. I have tried EVERYTHING and I still have never made it to the menu. Multiple emails sent to support over the past 2 weeks, no response.
Hmmm have you tried verifying steam
Files?