I'm going to try this out, been wanting to make flash paper. I did laugh at the beginning when you said your wife was away cause it's clear she doesn't want you doing stuff like this in the house lol.
Does this still function as flash paper by not leaving residue? I love the look of this more than normal flash paper for what my plan is. I'll check your channel for follow up vids and see if you made one using the potassium perchlorate you mentioned in a comment to see if that one still sparkles, and if it indeed burns faster. Also just verifying if this creates any noxious fumes like standard flash paper making does? I don't think it should since you all that happened was disolving and drying(bonus compared to the standard way)
Most of the time the flash paper left no residue but occasionally it would leave a tiny amount of ash. The paper does have a strange burning smell. I think it is best used in the garage or evening in the yard as a party trick. I have not done any more work with the flash paper. The focus of my channel is high power rocketry and custom made propellants. ua-cam.com/users/TheRocketeer Good luck and let me know how it goes!
In my experience magicians paper is thinner than paper towels being split but I’m very curious to try this method! The paper I’m familiar almost looks like thin wrapping material; do you think certain papers would have a similar reaction or is the two ply being split an important factor? I imagine tissue paper (which is the feel and thickness I’m use to use with buying premade flash paper) when I hear of it. Does the material not really matter outside of the chemical treatment?
so where do you buy it? as a typical consumer, i checked amazon and ebay, and no luck. is it something that you have to go to a specialty chemical supplier?
the demo you showed -- was that using the 4g or 10g of the perchlorate? were those pieces from the paper towel or the cigarette papers or both? you indicated you might try some other papers -- this video is from 2018 (this note here is 10/2021). did you ever do other papers?
@@TheRocketeer thank you for this info. I was also wondering about how stable this treated paper is compared to some other examples on UA-cam using the "gun cotton" approach but using 100% cotton paper. They say that the paper degrades over time. I doubt that you did some long-term exploration regarding this issue of stability (and also whether the AP flakes off the paper once it dries) but if you have any additional info on this point, that would be great. I'd like to try this myself but given the hazmat fee for shipping, just 1# of this powder is nearly $40. I don't mind experimenting myself but I also try to avoid others' mistakes (or trial failures) if I can.
@@drcoolit The ammonium perchlorate did not degrade the paper after a year. The paper towel seems to hold the small granules well. You could try potassium perchlorate instead. It is cheaper and would most likely react even faster. www.fireworkscookbook.com/product/potassium-perchlorate/ Go to my Home Page - About - Email if you want more information.
I cut a small square and fold it so it is loose. The trick is to toss the flash paper up so that it unfolds quickly resulting in a quick flash. A large folded square may not burn completely before landing on the ground. I hope that helps.
I have a quick question. I wanna do a little trick on stage with a rose. what I wanna do is light it up and throw it behind me. but I want the rose to stop burning before it falls to the ground. is it a good idea to stick one of those sheets of paper on the rose and light the sheet so it quickly stops burning when I throw the rose
Nitric acid is simpler and more accessable. You can easily make nitric acid with sulfuric acid drain cleaner and potassium nitrate stump remover. Ammonium perchlorate is way harder to get than drain cleaner and stump remover.
Ammonium perchlorate is commonly used in rocket propellant so I keep it in my inventory. AP can be ordered from Amazon or a number of chemical supply companies. It may be very difficult to obtain in other areas. High quality flash paper can be made from acid as you and others pointed out. The title does say "no acid." I am a rocket guy and not a chemist. Thanks for your comments.
I am considering to create a girandola for a local fireworks festival option. However, the sugar formulas burn too fast and I would need to modify the formulas. This "flash"paper seems to open an optional approach that could be easier with less mess. Has anyone explored it's use for model rocket fuel?
There do appear to be a few people who have experimented with this combination as rocket fuel. Other things work better and aren't that much more complicated. Google is your friend.
Potassium clorate is safe to handle using reasonable precautions. Avoid breathing any dust from it and of course it is not meant to be consumed. I have used it to make pyrogens for high power rocket igniters. It also works well in some types of rocket fuel. Thanks for your concern.
A quick check reveals that nitric acid is not available in the US from Amazon and it is expensive on eBay, often requiring pricy shipping. Sulphuric acid is not cheap on Amazon and few vendors offer it on eBay. I don't think the process could be any easier than dipping in water without worrying about caustic acid and the necessary safety equipment and toxic fumes.
@@TheRocketeer you dont actually need to buy nitric acid, just mix the h2so4 with kno3 and it makes nitric acid. The h2so4 can just be baught from the hardware store as drain cleaner. You wont get professional grade gun cotton but thats even quite hard to maje if you have the pure quality acids. Anyway, being able to buy ammonium perchlorate seems to be something you can only really do in america and some other places that are really big on rocketry
Lol drama queen its an oxidizer that is saturated with water you could dump it out on a fire and it would put the fire out . Remember its better to sit quietly and let everyone think your stupid than to open your mouth and prove everyone rite
You are correct about liquid measurements. I am a rocket guy and we measure everything in grams. When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail : )
the most accurate way to measure anything (gas, liquid, or solid) is to WEIGH it. As someone once pointed out -- what weighs more, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers? Volumetric measurements are iffy at best no matter what kind of background, or equipment, you have. Weights are consistent and you can measure items to very exact figures. Also, just like the lead/feathers ex., if you are using multiple wet ingredients that may have different densities, it is by far easier to measure out the item by weight than by volume. It's also a lot cleaner since adding weights to a container is easy; having to clean out whatever tool you are using to measure out a series of liquids can be a pain. And for some things (such as gases) trying to measure a specified amount by volume would be senseless (and also impossible). Weight would be the ONLY method you could use.
Instead of getting the acids from the home improvement store try this rocket fuel....
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I'm going to try this out, been wanting to make flash paper. I did laugh at the beginning when you said your wife was away cause it's clear she doesn't want you doing stuff like this in the house lol.
nice uncle... keep it up
Awesome!
I’ve never subscribed to a page so quickly in my life😂
Thanks!
This video is pretty lit 🔥 lmao
What did you put in the glass, sugar or salt?
Does this still function as flash paper by not leaving residue? I love the look of this more than normal flash paper for what my plan is. I'll check your channel for follow up vids and see if you made one using the potassium perchlorate you mentioned in a comment to see if that one still sparkles, and if it indeed burns faster.
Also just verifying if this creates any noxious fumes like standard flash paper making does? I don't think it should since you all that happened was disolving and drying(bonus compared to the standard way)
Most of the time the flash paper left no residue but occasionally it would leave a tiny amount of ash. The paper does have a strange burning smell. I think it is best used in the garage or evening in the yard as a party trick.
I have not done any more work with the flash paper. The focus of my channel is high power rocketry and custom made propellants. ua-cam.com/users/TheRocketeer
Good luck and let me know how it goes!
spray some wd40 on it. its easier
In my experience magicians paper is thinner than paper towels being split but I’m very curious to try this method! The paper I’m familiar almost looks like thin wrapping material; do you think certain papers would have a similar reaction or is the two ply being split an important factor? I imagine tissue paper (which is the feel and thickness I’m use to use with buying premade flash paper) when I hear of it. Does the material not really matter outside of the chemical treatment?
The split paper towel does seem to hold the oxidizer well. It does turn back to small crystals when dry.
It never hurts to try something else.
@@TheRocketeer absolutely, thank you!
so where do you buy it? as a typical consumer, i checked amazon and ebay, and no luck. is it something that you have to go to a specialty chemical supplier?
Potassium perchlorate can be purchased from fireworks suppliers. Fireworkscookbook.com has some in stock.
Looks like it takes alot to lite and fire off... your holding a flame to it for a lil duration...much longer than the real shit
He literally says in the beginning it doesn't work as well as the real thing idiot
Wooow good one hell ya
Thanks! Hey, fun magic site you have there!
Have the same question
Can i use sunlight to dry the paper?
Yes, you should be able to use a sunlight to dry the paper.
the demo you showed -- was that using the 4g or 10g of the perchlorate? were those pieces from the paper towel or the cigarette papers or both? you indicated you might try some other papers -- this video is from 2018 (this note here is 10/2021). did you ever do other papers?
Higher concentrations of AP worked better. I tried other papers and found paper towels worked best for me.
@@TheRocketeer thank you for this info. I was also wondering about how stable this treated paper is compared to some other examples on UA-cam using the "gun cotton" approach but using 100% cotton paper. They say that the paper degrades over time. I doubt that you did some long-term exploration regarding this issue of stability (and also whether the AP flakes off the paper once it dries) but if you have any additional info on this point, that would be great. I'd like to try this myself but given the hazmat fee for shipping, just 1# of this powder is nearly $40. I don't mind experimenting myself but I also try to avoid others' mistakes (or trial failures) if I can.
@@drcoolit The ammonium perchlorate did not degrade the paper after a year. The paper towel seems to hold the small granules well. You could try potassium perchlorate instead. It is cheaper and would most likely react even faster. www.fireworkscookbook.com/product/potassium-perchlorate/
Go to my Home Page - About - Email if you want more information.
@@TheRocketeer outstanding! thanks for this input and I'm heading over to your home page now!
Is there a limit on the size of the paper you use?
What kind of paper is recommended for this type of experiment?
I cut a small square and fold it so it is loose. The trick is to toss the flash paper up so that it unfolds quickly resulting in a quick flash. A large folded square may not burn completely before landing on the ground. I hope that helps.
I used a paper towel for the flash paper.
I have a quick question. I wanna do a little trick on stage with a rose. what I wanna do is light it up and throw it behind me. but I want the rose to stop burning before it falls to the ground. is it a good idea to stick one of those sheets of paper on the rose and light the sheet so it quickly stops burning when I throw the rose
I don't know the answer to your question but I think it is worth a try.
Just test it.. i find it unlikely you have performed the rose much. This looked like it burns like flash paper. Just find out if it leaves ash.
Yo scales and rolling papers. Is this monitized 😂
Nitric acid is simpler and more accessable. You can easily make nitric acid with sulfuric acid drain cleaner and potassium nitrate stump remover. Ammonium perchlorate is way harder to get than drain cleaner and stump remover.
Ammonium perchlorate is commonly used in rocket propellant so I keep it in my inventory. AP can be ordered from Amazon or a number of chemical supply companies. It may be very difficult to obtain in other areas.
High quality flash paper can be made from acid as you and others pointed out. The title does say "no acid." I am a rocket guy and not a chemist.
Thanks for your comments.
Not all stump remover are created the same. They use a few different ingredients.
I m the 50th liker !
Can I use this method on an edible product?
Potassium perchlorate is noy people friendly, so no.
Great Idea. Thank you for your Instruktion. Happy Magic.
You are so welcome!
Ya simple
Is it safe for food decoration purpose?
No
I am considering to create a girandola for a local fireworks festival option. However, the sugar formulas burn too fast and I would need to modify the formulas. This "flash"paper seems to open an optional approach that could be easier with less mess. Has anyone explored it's use for model rocket fuel?
Bump. I'd like to see an answer to this.
There do appear to be a few people who have experimented with this combination as rocket fuel. Other things work better and aren't that much more complicated. Google is your friend.
Lol NH4ClO4 is typically more difficult to obtain than H2SO4 or nitrate salts
Sooo......where did you get your ammonia perchloride???
Fireworkscookbook.com has potassium perchlorate. Be careful it is a powerful oxidizer.
@@TheRocketeer where we can buy this ?
@@expressilluson8622lmao
Amonyum Bi Karbonat Is that his name?
tare your damn scale
Why not soak them in lighter fluid?
because they will just burn, not flash
Aren't perchlorates in general, incredibly hostile to the human immune system?
Potassium clorate is safe to handle using reasonable precautions. Avoid breathing any dust from it and of course it is not meant to be consumed.
I have used it to make pyrogens for high power rocket igniters. It also works well in some types of rocket fuel.
Thanks for your concern.
Yes and in many cases, restricted substances to possess.
Hi
You found me!
why does the video title said rocketeere?
extra e?
Consider the extra "e" a bonus!
Der Umgang mit Ammoniumperchlorat ist im Sprengstoffgesetz geregelt und in Deutschland ohne entsprechende Erlaubnis verboten...
could you imagine sparking a joint, and that happens?
Bro u just gave me the most f***ed up idea
I’m trying to make a tik tok and I’m worried for the fbi looking at my history thinking I’m committing arson😅
That thought has crossed my mind! 😬🚀
You are dangerous your gonna get someone hurt
It's just a simple party trick, poof.
but the acid is much easier and cheaper to get tho.
A quick check reveals that nitric acid is not available in the US from Amazon and it is expensive on eBay, often requiring pricy shipping. Sulphuric acid is not cheap on Amazon and few vendors offer it on eBay.
I don't think the process could be any easier than dipping in water without worrying about caustic acid and the necessary safety equipment and toxic fumes.
@@TheRocketeer you dont actually need to buy nitric acid, just mix the h2so4 with kno3 and it makes nitric acid. The h2so4 can just be baught from the hardware store as drain cleaner. You wont get professional grade gun cotton but thats even quite hard to maje if you have the pure quality acids. Anyway, being able to buy ammonium perchlorate seems to be something you can only really do in america and some other places that are really big on rocketry
@@TheRocketeer toxic fumes are not made unless you're doing the whole thing is a metal pot(which is a very bad idea if you ask me)
😂🤣😂🤣 SO WE'RE USING AN OPEN FLAME UNDER A POT TO CREATE FLASH PAPER THIS GUY MUST BE A BRAIN SURGEON LATE FOR WORK 😂🤣😂🤣
Oh no, this guy is on to me! I only do brain surgery late at night.
Lol drama queen its an oxidizer that is saturated with water you could dump it out on a fire and it would put the fire out . Remember its better to sit quietly and let everyone think your stupid than to open your mouth and prove everyone rite
WATER ISN'T MEASURED BY GRAMS IT'S MEASURED BY MIL or OZs ,,,,etc liquid measurement
You are correct about liquid measurements. I am a rocket guy and we measure everything in grams. When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail : )
the most accurate way to measure anything (gas, liquid, or solid) is to WEIGH it. As someone once pointed out -- what weighs more, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers? Volumetric measurements are iffy at best no matter what kind of background, or equipment, you have. Weights are consistent and you can measure items to very exact figures. Also, just like the lead/feathers ex., if you are using multiple wet ingredients that may have different densities, it is by far easier to measure out the item by weight than by volume. It's also a lot cleaner since adding weights to a container is easy; having to clean out whatever tool you are using to measure out a series of liquids can be a pain. And for some things (such as gases) trying to measure a specified amount by volume would be senseless (and also impossible). Weight would be the ONLY method you could use.
1 ml of water is 1 gram of water. So there is no differnece, you can understand it easily.