IS THIS STEVE YZERMAN'S BIGGEST FUMBLE? (Sebastian Cossa Draft Pick Trade For WYATT JOHNSTON)

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  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
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    We're talking about how the Dallas Stars drafted superstar Wyatt Johnston at the 2021 NHL Draft from a draft pick that initially belonged to the Detroit Red Wings.
    This video is taking place after the 2023 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2023 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
    The 2023 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
    1st) Chicago Blackhawks, Connor Bedard
    2nd) Anaheim Ducks, Leo Carlsson
    3rd) Columbus Blue Jackets, Adam Fantilli
    4th) San Jose Sharks, Will Smith
    5th) Montreal Canadiens, David Reinbacher
    6th) Arizona Coyotes, Dmitri Simashev
    7th) Philadelphia Flyers, Matvei Michkov
    8th) Washington Capitals, Ryan Leonard
    9th) Detroit Red Wings, Nate Danielson
    10th) St. Louis Blues, Dalibor Dvorsky
    11th) Vancouver Canucks, Tom Willander
    12th) Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators), Daniil But
    13th) Buffalo Sabres, Zach Benson
    14th) Pittsburgh Penguins, Brayden Yager
    15th) Nashville Predators, Matthew Wood
    16th) Calgary Flames, Samuel Honzek
    17th) Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks), Axel Sandin Pellikka
    18th) Winnipeg Jets, Colby Barlow
    19th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning), Oliver Moore
    20th) Seattle Kraken, Eduard Sale
    21st) Minnesota Wild, Charlie Stramel
    22nd) Philadelphia Flyers (from Los Angeles Kings via Columbus Blue Jackets), Oliver Bonk
    23rd) New York Rangers, Gabe Perreault
    24th) Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers), Tanner Molendyk
    25th) St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Otto Stenberg
    26th) San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils), Quentin Musty
    27th) Colorado Avalanche, Calum Ritchie
    28th) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Boston Bruins via Washington Capitals), Easton Cowan
    29th) St. Louis Blues (from Dallas Stars via New York Rangers), Theo Lindstein
    30th) Carolina Hurricanes, Bradley Nadeau
    31st) Colorado Avalanche (from Florida Panthers via Montreal Canadiens), Mikhail Gulyayev
    32nd) Vegas Golden Knights, David Edstrom
    This video is also taking place after 2023 NHL Season, and after the 2023 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Vegas Golden Knights defeated the Florida Panthers in the Finals.
    Wyatt Johnston was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2021 NHL Entry Draft.
    The 2021 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The first round of the draft went as follows:
    1st) Buffalo Sabres, Owen Power
    2nd) Seattle Kraken, Matty Beniers
    3rd) Anaheim Ducks, Mason McTavish
    4th) New Jersey Devils, Luke Hughes
    5th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Kent Johnson
    6th) Detroit Red Wings, Simon Edvinsson
    7th) San Jose Sharks, William Eklund
    8th) Los Angeles Kings, Brandt Clarke
    9th) Arizona Coyotes (from Vancouver Canucks), Dylan Guenther
    10th) Ottawa Senators, Tyler Boucher
    11th) Arizona Coyotes, FORFEITED
    12th) Columbus Blue Jackets (from Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Sillinger
    13th) Calgary Flames, Matthew Coronato
    14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Philadelphia Flyers), Isak Rosén
    15th) Detroit Red Wings (from Dallas Stars), Sebastian Cossa
    16th) New York Rangers, Brennan Othmann
    17th) St. Louis Blues, Zachary Bolduc
    18th) Winnipeg Jets, Chaz Lucius
    19th) Nashville Predators, Fedor Svechkov
    20th) Minnesota Wild (from Edmonton Oilers), Jesper Wallstedt
    21st) Boston Bruins, Fabian Lysell
    22nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Minnesota Wild), Xavier Bourgault
    23rd) Dallas Stars (from Washington Capitals via Detroit Red Wings), Wyatt Johnson
    24th) Florida Panthers, Mackie Samoskevich
    25th) Columbus Blue Jackets (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Corson Ceulemans
    26th) Minnesota Wild (from Pittsburgh Penguins), Carson Lambos
    27th) Nashville Predators (from Carolina Hurricanes), Zachary L’Heureux
    28th) Colorado Avalanche, Oskar Olausson
    29th) New Jersey Devils (from New York Islanders), Chase Stillman
    30th) Vegas Golden Knights, Zach Dean
    31st) Montreal Canadiens, Logan Mailloux
    32nd) Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Columbus Blue Jackets), Nolan Allan
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  • @dj4aces
    @dj4aces 19 днів тому +20

    No, we didn't make a mistake moving up to draft Cossa. We wanted and needed a goalie. Good for Dallas for picking that kid, but the goalie was clearly a necessiity, and he's playing pretty damn well for GR in the AHL playoffs.

  • @user-fc2ob7yl3u
    @user-fc2ob7yl3u 19 днів тому +9

    Cossa was the correct pick for the future ❤

  • @bluelinetrader
    @bluelinetrader 19 днів тому +5

    Franchise altering? How about taking Filip Zadina instead of Quinn Hughes in 2018 draft?

    • @Winged_Wagon_Nation
      @Winged_Wagon_Nation 19 днів тому +2

      Yes thank you Ken Holland.

    • @tedsmith7814
      @tedsmith7814 19 днів тому

      Supposedly the Wing’s scouts were higher on Bouchard than Hughes…

  • @dannik9932
    @dannik9932 19 днів тому +4

    That's not how draft trades work. Detroit would never have gotten Johnston. Dallas was going to take him either at 15 or 28. Since they had somehow confirmed or were confident that Johnston would not be taken by anyone else, they traded back to gain the extra assets. So Johnston likely would not have been there even if Detroit picked 28.
    If Detroit made a mistake, then at least 20 other teams did as well.

  • @europason2293
    @europason2293 19 днів тому +8

    You assume Detroit would have drafted Johnston had they kept that pick. There's no way of knowing how the draft would have played out. Regardless, the Wings goaltending situation has been pretty grim sine Howard retired, and now they at least have two top 10 goalie prospects.

  • @TheUnnamedAssailant
    @TheUnnamedAssailant 19 днів тому +6

    You read his draft profile and it’s not nearly as impressive as what he’s become, Dallas did there job in taking a kid who had solid floor, but grew him to the point where his ceiling has become very high. You very well might be talking about Kasper or Danielson in the same breath as Johnston given proper coaching.
    Kasper especially could become a big surprise given he got a very good floor now and could easily improve as time goes on

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 19 днів тому +1

      Johnson missed an entire season of development so it was a void era that many teams worried players with a high ceiling would slip between the cracks. Looks like it happened as Johnston appears to be playing like a lottery pick.

    • @user-ed6nt1ml6p
      @user-ed6nt1ml6p 18 днів тому

      And so Danielson Lol AMAZING draft stuff from Yzerman

  • @temofulgencio5984
    @temofulgencio5984 19 днів тому +1

    Stevie absolutely made the right move. Our goalie of the future is Cossa and we haven’t had one of those in a very long time.

  • @OFDProductions
    @OFDProductions 19 днів тому +1

    I’d understand your point if Cossa was actually playing in the NHL right now and didn’t look good, but he hasn’t even played a game yet, for all anyone knows he could turn out to be an amazing goalie.

  • @PiikaQC
    @PiikaQC 19 днів тому

    imagine trading down and still get the steal of the draft and the guy that might end up being the best player from that draft class as he is already the leader for points from every player in the 2021 draft

  • @ekim4363
    @ekim4363 18 днів тому +1

    Got to give something to get something. Not all draft picks are going to land top players or contributing players.

  • @kgm4556
    @kgm4556 19 днів тому +2

    Goat. 1 for 1 for Marner.
    Knies-Cowboy-Johnson 🇨🇦🫡🫡

  • @eliteexile1985
    @eliteexile1985 19 днів тому +2

    if Dallas were really high on Wyatt Johnson then they may have just picked him at 15 if the trade hadn't happened - so not really sure it makes sense to say Dallas's franchise has been made by Detroit making that trade... Now if Detroit had traded back because they desperately wanted extra picks and this allowed Dallas to move up which also allowed them to take Johnson that may be more relevant.

  • @cameronfranke8566
    @cameronfranke8566 19 днів тому +2

    Well prove everyone wrong that cossa was the right pick same with Augustine

  • @davidwright9233
    @davidwright9233 19 днів тому +6

    Goalies take longer to develop. I can’t wait for the follow up in a couple years reevaluating this comparison….. when it’s actually fair to do so

  • @jtk2408
    @jtk2408 19 днів тому +6

    The pick to be upset about was taking Gustav Lindstrom one pick before Jason Robertson in 2017. The Wings desperately needed a goalie when they took Cossa.

    • @OFDProductions
      @OFDProductions 19 днів тому +2

      Crazy to think the Wings could have Robertson and Hughes rn if Holland wasn’t so incompetent

    • @nadaduo1765
      @nadaduo1765 19 днів тому

      they desperately needed a goalie right now not in 5 years

  • @user-ed6nt1ml6p
    @user-ed6nt1ml6p 18 днів тому

    Cossa is Detroit's goalie of the future so Definitly kinda looks like a win/win trade for now but we'll see what become Cossa

  • @Pix3lPalace
    @Pix3lPalace 19 днів тому +4

    maybe but then we would have no goalies

    • @davidwright9233
      @davidwright9233 19 днів тому

      Trey Augustine might still end up being the better of the two prospects

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 19 днів тому +2

      @@davidwright9233 Agreed it is better if there is competition between 2 goalies in similar age. It may be both will be on the regular season roster for years to come as a tandem.

    • @user-ed6nt1ml6p
      @user-ed6nt1ml6p 18 днів тому +1

      ​@@davidwright9233Cossa's ceiling is so high that I don't think so but interesting take that would be an Insanely good problem to have to decide who would be the Starter between both guys

  • @Healthy_Tanks49
    @Healthy_Tanks49 19 днів тому +1

    Mid guy for a star goalie? Oh no

  • @justinshields3819
    @justinshields3819 19 днів тому

    So far, Yzerman's 1st round draft picks have panned out. It's some of the 2nd round draft picks that are more questionable.

  • @richierich398
    @richierich398 19 днів тому

    We sure could use a right handed center right now

  • @user-em1ds2sr7q
    @user-em1ds2sr7q 19 днів тому

    They needed a goalie but I just think Wallstedt would of been better

  • @jonbuben3470
    @jonbuben3470 19 днів тому +1

    LEGO, you are reaching on this one.

  • @djostrand2176
    @djostrand2176 19 днів тому +1

    You are so right about Johnston I really only got to see his game
    Last nights game announcers were calling his name out whenever he touched the puck, which is often great player
    Being a Red Wings fan I appreciate your knowledge thanks

  • @KevinJL
    @KevinJL 19 днів тому

    Dallas got the scouts

  • @markvanderhaeghe6639
    @markvanderhaeghe6639 19 днів тому

    What kind of asinine video is this? You want Steve yzerman to draft? In order to stop other teams from getting a player instead of rebuilding what he needs for the team and drafting the most Is important Is position in the game. That may be the dumbest possible thought process I've ever heard. Either you're really low on content for Detroit or you.Don't understand what a rebuild is

  • @kyle1224
    @kyle1224 19 днів тому +1

    These videos are lazy.

  • @kennethrussell1320
    @kennethrussell1320 19 днів тому

    You can't win it all without top goaltending. Recent winners all had top 10 goalies. The Blackhawks had the 16th. Last team to win with a mediocre goalie was LA.

  • @ericscottstevens
    @ericscottstevens 19 днів тому

    I am more worried about what SY does drafting AFTER the 1st round.
    So far all he has to show for it is Carter Mazur who really will not be a game changer in the NHL.
    Last years second round for Detroit resulted in yet another goalie and two more defenders. Brady Cleveland is a huge project.

    • @europason2293
      @europason2293 19 днів тому

      Johansson is a guaranteed NHLer next year, and in my mind he should have been on the roster this year. Wallinder has top 4 upside, imo. I do agree that there's a lot to be desired after their first round selections, though, but I do think they have a couple of decent picks.

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 19 днів тому

      @@europason2293 SY has to find later round gems very soon, it is where teams distance themselves from others in young talent and barter to make big draft day trades. Right now not much in terms of wingers after round 1. I have always like our defender prospect pool but that is not putting pucks in the net.

  • @thugluv00
    @thugluv00 19 днів тому +1

    Detroit never had Wyatt Johnson but will say Yzerman biggest fumble was drafting Filip Zadina over Quinn Hughes though...

    • @eliteexile1985
      @eliteexile1985 19 днів тому +3

      that was a Holland pick wasn't it? I thought Zadina was drafted 2018 and Yzerman appointed 2019?

    • @marshallsumner4239
      @marshallsumner4239 19 днів тому +3

      That was a Ken Holland pick

    • @Winged_Wagon_Nation
      @Winged_Wagon_Nation 19 днів тому +1

      Yes that was a Holland pick.. But they were never going to draft Hughes anyway

    • @OFDProductions
      @OFDProductions 19 днів тому

      Fake news

  • @edited1325
    @edited1325 19 днів тому +1

    They need to trade guys like Larkin away and fully commit to a rebuild

    • @mcj44
      @mcj44 19 днів тому +2

      Are you stupid?

    • @DrumLion
      @DrumLion 19 днів тому +2

      Lol what?

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 19 днів тому

      Will never happen unless Dylan wants out. Right now as it is going once Larkin reaches 30 it may be time to reset the build as finding a 1C is hard enough, and even harder an elite one without lottery help.

    • @edited1325
      @edited1325 19 днів тому

      @@ericscottstevens the team is built in an odd fashion
      It’s wayyyy older than it should be

    • @swen1208
      @swen1208 19 днів тому +1

      @@ericscottstevens it will depend on the development of Danielson and Kasper.

  • @nadaduo1765
    @nadaduo1765 19 днів тому

    yeah another one of yzerman's many fumbles lol
    look at all the wings zombies in the comments defending this guy though 😭

    • @user-ed6nt1ml6p
      @user-ed6nt1ml6p 18 днів тому

      Obviously trolls like you have 0 clue on how to rule a franchise so anyways your opinion

    • @jonathanlong4066
      @jonathanlong4066 16 днів тому

      Stop crying

    • @nadaduo1765
      @nadaduo1765 16 днів тому

      @@jonathanlong4066 that's not an argument lol

    • @jonathanlong4066
      @jonathanlong4066 16 днів тому

      @@nadaduo1765 Neither was your comment. Nice try

  • @tjaymetal3116
    @tjaymetal3116 19 днів тому +4

    Since wallstedt was the clear best goalie prospect at the time, and currently looking like a real NHLer, cossa picks looks bad every day passes

    • @europason2293
      @europason2293 19 днів тому +5

      You say that like Cossa has been bad. He's obviously not as NHL-ready as Jesper is, but Cossa being a more long-term project was part of his draft profile. He's been excellent in his first season in the AHL.

    • @ericscottstevens
      @ericscottstevens 19 днів тому +4

      Cossa had better numbers in the AHL regular season than Wallstedt.
      2.41 GA & .914 SV% to 2.70 GA & .910 %
      Won loss record was not even close supporting Cossa's better results.

    • @user-fc2ob7yl3u
      @user-fc2ob7yl3u 19 днів тому +2

      Cossa will be the better goalie when they are ready for the NHL

    • @europason2293
      @europason2293 19 днів тому

      @@user-fc2ob7yl3u I don't know if I'd go that far. I won't make any judgements until they're both in the NHL for at least two or three years. They're both really good goalies. I do agree that Cossa has a potentially higher ceiling given his size and athleticism, but whether he can hit that ceiling is another matter. Detroit has never been good at developing goaltenders, but maybe things will be different under Yzerman.

    • @swen1208
      @swen1208 19 днів тому

      @@ericscottstevens tbf Iowa was a worse team than GR so Wallstedt will have slightly worse numbers but I'd give the edge to him.
      However the future is uncertain and the way it's going for Cossa I think he'll be ready not in 2025 but in 2026, 2025 I think he'll have some games in the NHL like 5-10 games max.

  • @whumpdonkey2478
    @whumpdonkey2478 19 днів тому

    Id still take Cossa ALL DAY LONG , Cossa is gonna b a Vezina trophy winning goalie 100%

  • @marcbabineau6001
    @marcbabineau6001 19 днів тому +1

    Really not a fan of how Yzerman is building this team, I don't get analysts ranking them as the best or close to prospect pools.

    • @europason2293
      @europason2293 19 днів тому +1

      It's because they have a lot of depth at every position. They still lack elite top-end talent, with the exception of Sandin-Pellikka and I would argue Trey Augustine, but when you look at their defensemen, centers, wingers and goaltenders, they have notable players at all of those positions.

    • @ekim4363
      @ekim4363 18 днів тому +1

      Yzerman didn’t do a bad job in rebuilding Tampa. Let me know when rebuilds are add water rebuild over.