DeWALT Tools DIRTY Marketing Tactics (FLEXVOLT Advantage AND Power Detect Hammer Drills)
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2021
- DeWALT Tools DIRTY Marketing Tactics (FLEXVOLT Advantage AND Power Detect Hammer Drills) In this video we tell the #verycoolgang what the difference is between DeWALT's new hammer drills and their dirty marketing tactics. DeWALT has recently released two new hammer drills along side their flagship DCD996, first is the FLEXVOLT advantage hammer drill (DCD999) and second is the Power detect hammer drill (DCD998). Other than the model numbers being different on the drills is anything else different? Find out the secret to DeWALT's dirty marketing tactics in this video and let us know your thoughts down in the comments section below.
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I wish someone would hook all 3 up to some kind of test rig that could measure torque to see if they are any different, too many videos with speculation or some guy drilling holes and no data. paging Project Farm or AvE
Suggest it to Project Farm, he is awesome!
There is a video and 999 is the best but very slightly. Not noticeable to the naked eye but just a hair better that it’s not even Noticeable unless ran together side by side
Project farm and AVE are both effin amazing for tool info!
@@ikon8275 AVE hasn’t done a proper tool teardown in ages unfortunately.
Basically it's saying they all the same 1 is made for Lowes 1 made for home depot and 1 is generic and the only difference is battery
Is it just me or is this more confusing than it needs to be?
It’s simple xrb 99vs the 8ah flex with the power max vs the 9998899 xrrr with the 20 volt max 18 volt (ah
@@islanddan4302 😂
This guy LOVES to hear himself talk. This 11 minute video could have been done in 5 minutes easily. After a few minutes I just went to the 8 minute mark and he was still rambling.
@@islanddan4302 😂😂 my stomach hurt it so funny
@@trvman1 what did you expect by going to the 8th minute? Did you think he'd be just sitting there not doing anything
I'm fairly certain that the 996 does not have programming/chipset to detect the higher capacity 8ah battery or the 60 volts of the flexvolt so it runs the same power regardless of which battery is connected, only gaining advantage of the extra ah of run time. 998 will detect an 8+ah battery and increase it's power because the battery has more and/or better cells so it can handle the extra output. I suspect it cannot differentiate btw 20v and flexvolt bats though. The 999 is designed to detect and use the extra output available in a flexvolt battery. Throw a 5ah battery on them and they are probably all exactly the same. Give them the battery they are specialized in and the 998 and 999 will increase their power.
I have the 996 and it hasn't failed me yet. Love it. No reason for me to upgrade.
I really appreciate VCG for the honest reviews. I had DeWalt tools for 20 years. After seeing Milwaukee Pack-out and tool lineup, I went all in with Milwaukee! Thanks Again Vince and the super cool gang
I went with the Powerdetect from Lowe's and got an extra 8ah as part of the Black Friday sale. I use the extra on my tower light 👍 As you noted, I didn't see any Flexvolt advantage tools in my future, so I stuck with the standard 20v XRs.
Me too
@@1joshua me too ,
Thanks for calling this out. I think this is what happens when a company is desperate to sustain growth and then someone pitches an idea at a board meeting how to maximize sales by 18.6% while only spending 5% on a razzle dazzle naming scheme. Basically marketing mumbo jumbo. Dewalt needs to get its soul back from corporate.
a soul? it was a dead brand, resurrected by a corporate, so do not blame them to act like one
@@binaryzero9745for real, dewalt was severally outdated and dying. Coming back now, their stuff is getting better each year. That being said, they need a more simpler model number system. Too many different versions of basically the same thing.
Getting rid of my Dewalt tools here soon. It’s pretty ridiculous that a company has 3 different “premium” lines now. These features should all be included in one tool for the extra price paid for them. This is only going to confuse new customers trying to decide which of these three to buy when they can’t figure out what battery is going to work best with their new tool.
As a new Dewalt customer watching this video to understand the difference I agree, This confusion is pushing me to Milwaukie.
I have the XR line of tools, but I got the flex volt advantage hammer drill for Black Friday only because it came with the 6AH flex volt advantage battery for free with a 6AH charger. Only reason I got that one. Works great.
Thanks for putting a spotlight on the marketing hype man... I have the 999 and I love it... All 3 of those are great I think... But sometimes I hesitate when I see consumers start a chorus for more innovation on a great product line that already matches or exceeds the competition... Sometimes you force "innovation for innovations sake"... And sometimes that innovation is half baked and hurts durability (a huge part of the tool objective)... Sometimes a tool plarform just gets more refined and stable over time and durability is just the best thing you can give a blue collar worker imo... But hey... Just my 2 cents... I agree with the points ya made man.
Whats up Vince! Thanks to your vids and knowledge, this past weekend I finally Purchased my dream saw; the Dewalt Miter saw DWS780. And oh Man it's a beast. Thank you and @VCGConstruction fam for helping me make my decision. Like always smash the like button and ring the bell. Subscriber for life!!!! 🤣🤣
So what are you saying Todd? That we have been fooled! I love my 996 and I love that I got another on clearance at Lowe’s for $113 for the kit a while back. Thanks for giving us the honest truth Vince.
I just picked up the DCD996 at Lowe's and was wondering if I should go flex volt .but after watching this I'm glad I got this tool. Thanks Vince for this video
I found your channel when looking for reviews of the Ridgid Octane impact driver. I currently have an old Hitachi cordless drill, and I’m looking to upgrade soon. Still not sure what I’m going to get. I do like the lifetime warranty on Ridgid. But I also love the look and feel of Milwaukee.
I think it had to do with manufacturing and where the tools are coming from, it says in the manual that for shipping purposes the cells in the batteries are separated. With that said the flexvolt batt in the power detect grinder I notice a difference in power and generally think the bigger batteries help with output no matter what the tool is
I came looking for answers and now I am more confused now than I was before.
Just get the flex volt. Ignore power detect.
Did some hard testing with my old 996 to the new 999 I just bought , if you use the 9 amp hour 546 battery it gives you more power than the 996 not by much and my test show that my Milwaukee generation 3 is even with the 999 the only flaw was that the gearing was a little bit too high on the DeWalt so if you take away 250 RPM from the DeWalt I am certain that 999 will be even with my Milwaukee generation 3
Sorry late to the party !! Great videos !! I just got a 998 replacement for a defective 996 fwd/rev switch. I also had to buy the 779 miter saw and stand from Lowes because H Depot would not match the deal because if the model/ digit they went by. Same saw and stand but would not sell it. 10min was the store from m house. Had to order online from Lowe's, then went thru a nightmare with shipping. Keep up the great stuff !!
As far as tool itself, the ability increase came from movin from brushed to brushless motors. As far as different models of brushless, i think dewalt is just tryin different angles of marketing. The flex volt batteries are just awesome, although heavy. If just runnin screws, i'm more likely to run xr batteries, but if doin a lot of drillin, probably gonna run flex volt. The small differences in styling are really what's gonna be the decidin factor for which model ya get.
great video, answered my question. this is what I was thinking too
I love this video! The simple ways of summing up this video is, there not comparing apples to apples!
Does the same thing happens to the reciprocating saws? I'm still debating with myself if buying the flexvolt, the flexvolt advantage or the power detect sawzall. Wish one has more power? Wish one has less vibration?
Large retail stores often have price beat etc, so they get their own special part number / version which ships as a slightly different package, looks almost identical and can't be easily compared to other stores.
This is exactly the issue. Lowe's gets kits marked xxx1 while home depot gets kits marked xxx2, same tools and accesories, but different number so they don't have to price match.
@@infinityfringe fun fact dewalt(and the other brand tools) are sold on commission from the tool manufacturers (like car dealerships) so stores dont have to have spent millions in inventory on tools.
I personally have a 998 and I use it with a 9ah flex battery, and it does everything ive ever needed it too
I have been wondering myself I'm sure along with everybody else I think it's all in the battery ...battery technology goes a long ways and it's evolving daily getting better and better.. I think if you were to put that eight amp battery on the dcd996 it would have just as much power as either one of the other two new ones..
Have you thought about doing that and seeing what the difference would be put five amp battery on the new one .. and the 8 amp power battery on the DCd 996
I've been using the fex volt battery on my regular 20v sawsall without any issue. Seems like it would be fine on the 996 drill as well.
Bro you're absolutely right. Same motors, different batteries. The XR Power Detect is the strongest because it uses the 21700 batteries. But...you can put that battery pack into the other drills and get almost the same power output.
Vince you also need to buy the 997 which includes tool connect
here's my thoughts on the matter, the 8ah will be a 2p 5s battery, that being two rows of (5) 21700 cells rated at 4ah per cell, the 6ah flexvolt is 3p 5s but are the smaller 18650 cells (in 20v mode) now as a general rule of thumb the larger the capcity the cells the lower the current can safely be discharged from them, the fact that the 8ah battery uses physically larger cells than the flexvolt kind of muddies the water (as you can increase the capacity and still have a comparable discharge capability) Its more than likely that the flexvolt 18650 cells will have a discharge capability higher than the 8ah (lower capacity thus higher discharge) BUT for this discuassion lets assume that they are even, in this scenario the flexvolt wins on current (and therefore power) delivery simply becuase in 3p you have the current of 3 rows of cells discharging vs the 2 in the 8ah the other advantage is the lower voltage drop due to cell resistance, all cells have an internal resistance and the higher the current draw the greater the voltage drop, thus the flexvolt being 3p should see a much lower voltage drop due to both an overall lower resistance (kirchhoff's law) and lower current draw from each cell the lowe current draw per cell will also mean a longer overall battery life.
as a Caveat I would need to investigate exactly which cells are used in each battery for a proper and fair comparison
Vince should have you on the show
@@forrestweldon9168 thanks, there are far more knowledgeable out there than me in regards to battery tech, my studies in the subject are only cursory
Bingo! Voltage don't lie.
VCG construction. Love your channel
Quick question ! Can you use batteries vice versa for example flex volt drill with power detect ? I honestly don't know I only own the best tools like millwaukee just saying...
Well said VCG. I would like to see more innovation from DeWalt .
hey vince what about the longer side handles on 998 & 999 vs 996 ? what do they say, bigger handle...
I have the 999 w/the 6a.h. flexvolt. Don't really see the power. The new flexvolt Sawzall is amazing
999 is just the most updated one which makes it the best but it is very and I mean very slightly more powerful hardly noticeable but it is better.
@@jorangel87 to be fair its very torquie a on one so the longer handle would be nice
3 fixed speeds or variable speeds
? BTW - great video !!! I've been holding off on buying a 1/2" cordless drill..glad I found you..I've been doing the google dance for hours
to evaluate the very CONFUSING array of dewalt 1/2" cordless drills - again - THANK YOU..
What’s up Vince. Big shout from 🇬🇧
Explained so much thanks Vince !!
Thank you for the great vid. I only heard of the 2 new additions a week a go so decided to look into them. I have a 996 and it awesome, and yes I agree with you that they are essentially the same tools, and believe that they just benefit from the extra amp hours and the extra cells. An F1 car at the moment has 6 cylinders and is a 1600cc motor producing 1000bhp. Getting a little bit of power faster from more sources creating a more efficient vehicle, so in this case it could be an example of how the battery is affecting the tool, more cells less draw from each, less stress on the cells and faster response and more overall staying power to push through the task. Just my theory. As I've seen with the flex volt advantage saw vs the actual flex volt saw, the flex volt saw destroys it in performance and the advantage saw runs like a 20v saw but slightly better with the flex volt battery and that's because the smallest flex volt battery is a 6amp hour in 20v mode. So a big battery.
What battery was the 20v saw using? Maybe put a standard 6AH battery on the 20v saw to see if it keeps up with the flexvolt advantage?
As a DIY guy the 996 that I bought years ago still fits all my needs. A lot of DIY guys I hear go with cheaper brands but every good tradesman I worked with went with Dewalt. I wouldn't mind getting some team red tools alongside my Dewalts so I'm not biased but since my wallet is only so big I think you can't go wrong with any of these drills. Application might vary though. I don't really get into concrete drilling, but mostly work with wood. Its a beast.
Interesting,thank u gentlemen 👍
Send all three tools to ave for a tear down and an examination of the guts and construction.
Yeah if there's anyone who could tell you exactly the difference it'd be that guy. He's the whistle with all bells of the engineering world.
Basicly there is a lowes 10 miles from me while the nearest home depot is over 100 miles away...so power detect will be the on I pick up next time I'm in lowes....it's a pretty simple decision for me
i love the new tool line that the same as the old one, they sold the old 3sp xr drill and driver 2 4amp battery's out for 149.00 so i got 2 set, and got the xr sawsall and 1sp xr drill and xr driver and 2 batterys for 170.00,, ceep it coming LOL but i do think at sometime i would like to get some of the 60vt things but no rush
May I ask what make/model is the eye-protection goggle are you wearing? It looks soooo coool :)
Great video,keep it up!💭
That’s why I waited I have the 995 and jumped up to the 999 I have noticed a difference.. I bought the 999 packs deal you mention for the flex volt battery to add to my line of flex volt tools
I got a brand new in box 996 flexvolt pack with the impact, 2 batteries and bag like 4 or 5 years ago for $130 bucks off a lady on Fb marketplace. Might have been stolen, but I didn't ask or care lol. Thing has been a joy to use and still going strong. Matter of fact I'm heading out to ice fish and the 996 is what I've been using to drill holes in ice since I got it along with numerous other projects around the house. Cheers!
Dewalt so far has never let me down their tools are Awsome ,
Both dewalt and Milwaukee have let me down before still great tools
I'm pretty partial to Dewalt, however, Milwaukee is a very close second. I use Milwaukee for my impacts in the field, but I use Dewalt for just about everything else, with the exception of Hilti's specialty tools. Now, I'm an Ironworker, so these tools have NEVER been treated nicely, and I've had ONE impact shear the 1/2" anvil off, and have gone through a few sets of batteries. Other than that, I've never had an issue with either of these brands in 9years of my experience so far. I love 'em.
Same here
My very first large tool purchase was a 12in compound miter saw DeWalt it lasted from age 18 till 45 and I have owned a bit of everything I like DeWalt Milwaukee and flex my first cordless drill was a Makita long battery and when it quickly became outclassed I went to DeWalt nikad to then trying to go back to Makita 18v lithium and it discusses me too hear people talking about Makita because they are trash compared to DeWalt and Milwaukees I spent a huge investment switching to them and their dills and impacts were garbage when I was handing my guys 10 year old nikad drills and impacts to hold them over while brand new Makita drills and impacts were being fixed or replaced I quickly sucked up my pride and sold off the whole collection of tools
Vince's suspicions are wrong. I had the same questions and eventually worked my way up through DeWalt Customer Service and ended up getting a call from Nate with Dewalt (as seen on the Sparky Channel video on this same subject). Here is the summary... The 996 & 998 have the same motor, but the electronics have been upgraded to allow the 998 to use more power from the battery. So the 998 is more powerful than the 996, but since the motor is the same there is a limit to how much more powerful it can be. The 999 also has new electronics AND has an upgraded motor. As such, the 999 is more powerful than the 996 & 998 using the same battery. Nate told me that the 999's power advantage over the 998 & 996 is small when all 3 are using the 5AH 20-volt battery, but that power advantage over the 996 & 998 increases as you move to bigger batteries. In other words, if all 3 are using the 8AH 20-volt, the 999's power advantage over the 998 & 996 gets larger. Even more so when all three are using the 6AH Flexvolt. And even though they don't use the 9AH or 12AH Flexvolt batteries in their marketing claims, Nate said that the power advantage of the 999 over the 998 & 996 is even greater when using those two batteries. Interestingly, he said that the 999 with the 9AH compared to the 999 with the 12AH Flexvolt battery were practically identical in their power ratings so I guess by the time you get to the 9AH you have reached the limits of the new motor and electronics as far as its power increase and there is no more to be gained with the 12AH Flexvolt. It's up to you whom you believe, but what Nate says makes sense and seems believable to me.
SO I am now in the market to purchase a hammerdrill as I struggled to drill some brick for Christmas light hangars ughhh. I use the 5ah xr batteries but according to you I should get the newer upgraded tool 999 I can get the baretool for practically the same price as the 996 or 998... I should get the 999 right? Cause there's room to grow into flexvolt later right?
@@ngnaw The 999 will give you the option to run flexvolt batteries maximizing performance, according to Dewalt.
I got the 999 as part of a kit and for the sale that is going on at home depot($399 kit + 2 free tools) I already had flexvolt batteries from my 578B circular saw so, for me it made sense to get the 999.
It's up to you to decide where you want to go.
Can we get a tool test raw for all three. To see which is truly the best
Open them up. Plug a battery in and test the voltage at the ECU's. That will show you if the electronics in Flexvolt are actually using 60v or 20 like the rest.
I’m using the 12v tools 😂 but they are perfect for me because I don’t use them every day. Just diy home projects and working on cars
12v in some cases are beast I love my M12 fuel surge impact but I'm totally shifting to flex 24v now after using the flex turbo hammer drill
But you will see me with the M12 tools when I am able to get by with them
Watched an interview with a Dewalt engineer and he was asked about the Flexvolt advantage and the Power detect lines and all the confusion. He said that they want to allow people to take advantage of the new batteries with out being forced to buy any flexvolt battery's. I think Home depo is just paying them to keep flexvolt out of lowes so they needed both.
Hi vince youre right great explanation
All seems the same to me 🤷
So quick question, my DCD996 stopped working after 4.5 yrs, only the led light works. Do I get it repaired, look for a 996 on marketplace for around 100CAD or do I get the DCD999 for 300CAD with free flex volt battery? 🤔 Any suggestions and why are welcome, thanks!
Great video. Thanks
So still confused. Would like to see all possible combinations of tools and batteries for a true conclusion. Run the 996 with a 5ah, 6ah FV, 8ah, and 9ah FV. Run the 998 with a 5ah, 6ah FV, 8ah, and 9ah FV. Run the 999 with a 5ah, 6ah FV, 8ah, and 9ah FV. If its a capacity issue, would all models perform higher with an 8ah or 9ah FV battery?
Thank you for Figuring it out for me it is kind of crazy what they’re doing
We need more videos like this! I "needed" (my wife says "wanted" HAHA) an impact driver and I like DeWalt ... so after browsing the stores and internet, I made a SWAG and chose the 887. I would have preferred at least a 3/8", but with the confusing and overwhelming choices (not even mentioning the different "versions"), I got such a headache I just threw up my hands and chose the 887 because my wife was ready to say no way HAHA. Of course, a couple days later, I saw a combo deal with 2 tools for just $50 more to make me even madder ...
Do either the power detect or flex volt drills have the eclutch ?
In the UK dewalt play about like this, doing slightly varying things between stores. One of the things they change here is the chucks, one place will have a plastic an the other metal.
Dewalt makes some very nice tools. Unfortunately the marketing wank is way way to much. My daily drives are the German Metabo, Fein, Bosch, some Makita. The marking for these is nothing like Dewalt or Milwaukee and I do use 12V Milwaukee tools. The point is by creating a marketing shell game it confuses and makes the customer angry.
Wtf did Milwaukee do? Thay have like 2-3 18v tool lines and it’s blatantly obvious what’s top of the line. FUEL boom done it’s the best, don’t drag Milwaukee into this.
It is quite convenient that the tools from Lowes (That don't carry flexvolt) get the advantage from their 20V max larger batteries. BUT The Home Depot variant has a "Flexvolt" advantage because the stock and sell flexvolt batteries. My guess is like a LOT of other things they are in both big box stores yet are tweaked ever so slightly by the manufacturers for several reasons to suit each store (One thing you can't do is use it for price matching, as they are NOT the same product in name (Even if they are for real) Alot of appliances are the same way as well, just to prevent easy comparisons among the big box stores.
im looking at both of those as you speak. one looks like a bigger battery being its 8volts. and the 5 is smaller(not by much 1"? maybe.) whats the weight? because weight sells for hiker gear.
I think its more about what retailers are asking for and home depot and lowes are looking to carry "separate" items
Gracias, es fabulosa la presentación, cuanto ansió poder estar alla.
Love DeWalt but they need to get their crap together.
Made in China....
@@saltyp7573 what isn't made in China
@@benthompson8256 there's plenty of tools that are made in America, some DeWalt tools are made here, kobalt tools, some Milwaukee tool's...
If you just researched before buying something, you CAN find American made products.
Why ask me what isn't made in China?
Attempting to be sarcastic???🤔👌
@@saltyp7573 assembled in USA with parts made elsewhere
@@saltyp7573 no dewalt or Milwaukee tools are made in America
Numbers game for sure, and as mentioned a way for the two box stores not to carry the same item so they have exclusive lines through dewalt.
This design of drill goes back to the DCD925 post type battery drill. Although the old drill is a brushed motor the transmission is identical 3 speed 500 rpm, 1200 rpm and 2000 rpm, clutch and chuck exactly the same
I like Dewalt tools for their quality but shy away from their product because Dewalt is constantly changing their battery scheme. This is one thing I can commend Senco/Ryobi on. I have owned Black & Decker and Porter Cable products as well as used Dewalt at work. Nothing more frustrating than when I need to replace a battery to not being able and purchase one because the battery configuration has changed.
In the last year I have noticed an adapter to convert 18v Dewalt tools to the 20v battery. It would be nice if they did the same thing for their other product lines.
Thx for the video 😊
Glad I'm not the only one confused by Dewalt's nomenclature.
I want to know when dewalt is going to release anew impact driver
So for this situation a prefer milwaukee tools at least on hammer drills driver topic.
I am a very old dewalt fan. That is what I have found over the years. I bought the very first dewalt 18v combo drill. It's only competition was at the time makita . Makita was a better tool. Just every time they introduced a new model the batteries would not work with the older tools. Dewalt has always designed a way for there older tools to work on the new battery line. That is the main reason I have always stayed with them. It is nice that they are finally producing tools that now compete with others. What would be really nice is if you could find a way to get them to make better blades for there lawnmower. I really do like the dewalt cordless lawnmower. It is the blade is crap. As I have the dewalt battery line. And have focused on there 60v line since they introduced it. And yes I have found a different in the power. Much more power with the 60v batteries. You are always going on about the dills impact drivers and saws building tools. As the big 3 are also focusing on gardening tools. I would like to see you putting them to the test . And make dewalt step up.
Looking at specs from dewalt looks like the UWO are different for all three. So considering that all three have the same RPMs I figure that equates to differences in torque?
I was thinking the same!
Totally agree 👍
voltage = rpm , mah~amp = torque power
only different is the amount of amp to the battery. Words on the internet say that 20xr is really 18 as well.
DeWalt makes some of the best if not the best miter saws and table saws I would say Milwaukee would be a close second but I like the fast DeWalt as corded or battery with the option of a chord although almost all tools are dangerous miter saw and table saw I probably two most dangerous tools on a job site😎👊🇺🇸
Can you use flex volt battery on the power detect tools
Larger Ah rating means the battery can supply more current. But that also means that the motor-speed controller combo has to be able to handle the extra current, or it will burn up.
I harness lighting for Van Maanen Electric in newton Iowa. I only use dewalt tools. With that being said they need to get their shit together!
Just got the 996, 887 combo for Xmas based on a number of reviews plus sale (probably due to these new models coming out). Spent the last 2 weeks deciphering the diff between XR, 20v max and flexvolt both for tools AND batteries. If I'd known it was going to be so ridiculous, I don't know if I would have committed to the platform.
Weekend warriors don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on different brand batteries and chargers.
What the heck are you trying to say? You can use any of the 20v batteries AND the Flex Volt batteries on your 20v tools. You can also use the 20v chargers like the DCB115 to charge all of your batteries, including Flex Volt, and the high amp DCB118 rapid charger for all of your batteries. What are the different brand batteries and chargers you speak of?
I've just ordered the 999 from the US as they don't sell either 998 or 999 in the UK. I was under the impression that the 999 has the extra 2 pins being a flexvolt tool meaning it has the ability to draw more power in one hit over the XR range of batteries that only use 4 pins, so if it hasn't got the extra pins on the 999 and can't use maximum power from the flexvolt batteries then I will be extremely pissed as I've had to pay a pretty penny when I add import taxes and postage fees which were nearly as expensive as the drill itself, please can you let us know what information you can find out on this!! Thanks for your time and please keep up with you great vids as I'm a big fan from across the pond👍.
I have a suggestion. Take the drills apart and look at the motors and circuit boards. I have a feeling that you will see what makes them different. Kind of like the xr6 and 8ah batteries. They are the same size and weight. Without the sticker they look identical. But you know the difference is on the inside ;) I’ve been wondering about the differences of these tools myself for a while. Unsure if I’m going to make the best purchase. So I decided to do some lengthy research. Im confident now that I can make the correct choice for my needs. Dewalt is a bit funny about certain things for sure. Especially having slightly different but almost the same things at the depot and slowes ( tools and accessories). There is a lot of bs and truth from any manufacturer. Or contractor!!! Anyways. I’d love to see the video of you gutting these drills open!
Semantics.... Milwaukee has played the same game with some tools over promising and under deliver (surge?). All manufacturers play word games.
But what the big difference is I see 996vs999 is the power under load/torque I have yet to bog down the 999. Now the power detect I can't speak of personally but I think Dewalt tried pleasing to many Masters with the 998.
Shall we talk about atomic?
Milwaukee surge is rubbish .
@@JandJgarage65 what that some tools make sense and some don't with the atomic line ....again back to pleasing too many Masters
But also then why did the holiday promo kits sell out this holiday season with the atomic line.
I don't know if surge is a good or bad tool, but it has a reason to be, it is an hydraulic impact driver, that's the difference, the benefit of that is a less noisy impact and it is true according to videos I've seen even from VCG. With the drills of this video, the difference is blurry, complicated, not clear. And taking about the atomic, my God!!! Pay more for a less powerful tool????? Bs.
Higher AH only Allows Longer Run Time. I am curious How they have the 60/20 Flex Volt Batteries wired?? Series gets you Higher Volts. Parallel gets you Higher Amps.
Higher AH batteries can provide more power, along with longer run times. Remember, physically larger batteries can provide more current, so even if the voltage is the same, you will get more power.
It’s why a 12 volt car battery can start a car, while 9 AA batteries (also 12 volts) won’t be able to do so.
I use an old flagship XRP, when I plug on the big fat flexvolt battery, I feel like it has a little bit more power over the normal ones.
IDK or it could just be placebo effect in my mind.... 😂
I have the 996 and the 999. If I use a standard 20v battery they perform the same. But using the flex battery the 999 definitely has more grunt to it. Not sure how it does that but it definitely has more jam when I need it.
How does your 996 compare to the 999 if you use the Flex Volt battery on both of them?
@@pheloniousmunk the 999 definitely has more pep to it than the 996 when using the flex battery. They are just about identical with a standard battery. Close enough that I can’t really tell. I had the 999 bind up on a hole saw and spin it’s t handle around and the 996 has never managed that.
@@brunothehumble Thanks for that info. So you have tried the 996 vs 999 while both were on a Flex Volt battery?
@@pheloniousmunk I only have one flex volt battery so I can’t go directly head to head but yes I’ve used both with a flex battery and I was able to notice a marked improvement in performance with the 999
@@brunothehumble Interesting
DCD999 Vs DCD996
You can expect enhanced durability from the Dewalt DCD999 compared to the DCD996. Its high power density motor has more copper and longer magnets compared to its predecessor which leads to increased power, and its electronic module enables the tool to recognise when an XR FlexVolt battery is attached to unlock even more power.
🤔Now what year did the DCD991 Dewalt XR 20V drill come out ?And will it work with the new big 8 battery?
I bet you would feel that flexvolt if you carried it around all day!
Off topic but I love my Makita sub compact and I almost always run the 2.0 ah batteries since they are lighter and have plenty of charge unless I am doing heavy drilling.
Dunno.. I've used a DW 18V cordless drill at work for a looong time now - and I've been pretty effin happy with it. I'd get another one (if had to). No other way I'd personally go.
Sounds like the case with appliances... "we beat competitors prices by 10%", but one sells model abcd, the other sells abdc, but they're both technically the same, but different model numbers so no need to price match/beat.
I'm a big dewalt guy. I've had flexvolt from day one and I think all the tools
Take "advantage" of any larger compacity battery. Its obvious on all the tools. This is just smoke and mirrors I believe. Still my fav tool is my flexvolt circular saw it's a BEAST!!!!!
Thank You for your inquiry. No, the FLEXVOLT batteries can be used with both the 20V and 60V line of tools. They are compatible with most but not all of the 20V line-up. The FLEXVOLT will act as a 20V battery when it is installed in a 20V tool.
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Ok since me and the lads have setup 5-6 years ago, we have had 2 dewalts 996 and 1 Chuck broke after 2 years of hard use the other is 18 months and going strong, we have had 3 Makitas Dhp 481z and 2 broke with in a year and the 3rd is making terrible noises (nearly gone) so we orders the dcd999 with a flexvolt and the makita xgt hp001gz, the makita is smaller lighter but the dewalt is leagues ahead for pure power, in hammer mode it leaves the new xgt for dust but it’s still early doors, all I can say is the dewalt 999 is the most powerful drill our lads have ever seen
I have the 998 and it’s a beast on that 8ah battery, rather use the power detect and use the battery’s for my other XR tools
Electrical power is measured in Watts, which loosely translates to working power, such as torque and speed. I think when the Flexvolt is at 20V, the 3 banks of 5 series cells are in parallel for 9Ah. 3Ah rated cells. The maximum that exists for 18650 (18mm wide, 65mm long, 0 for round) cells no matter what some companies print on them. That is why they are trying 21700 (21mm wide, 70mm long, 0 for round) cells. Each cell can produce more current. When the Flexvolt is at 60V, the 3 banks of 5 series cells are in series at 3Ah. 5 cells in series at 4.1V (max) is 20.5V x 9A = 184.5 Watts. 15 cells in series at 4.1V (max) is 61.5V x 3A = 184.5 Watts. The high voltage, low current configuration means smaller conductors can be used for the same power. Good for larger motors such as saws. I am guessing the 8Ah pack is 4 banks of 5 series 18650 cells in parallel at 2Ah each cell. Perhaps 2 banks of 5 series 21700 cells at 4Ah. That would be 20.5V x 8A = 164 Watts. It mostly comes down to comparability.
The flexvolt has more max watts output at 1219. And also has more Rpms on hammer drill mode at 2250. This is why it's better and I love it. The others have less max watts and hammer drill RPMs💣💥👊🤘
Just upgraded from 18v NI-CA to 998, it's an upgrade for me regardless!
So my question is this, I have some 20 Volt Maxx Lawn tools, am I able to run the 60 Volt Maxxx batteries on those tools? This whole thing is weird, and feels like what your presenting, marketing options guised as innovation.
I want to see the 9 or 12 amp hour 60v battery in the 20v impact gun to see if impacts harder
I have DCD991 and nothing else is needed. Great drill! There is enough power!