A couple of tips: Dealing with oil pan bolts in a car is a pain, replace them with studs and nuts. Instead of RTV, use Permatex No 3 aviation goo on paper gaskets, you can reuse them forever. Also works well on rubber gaskets like the rocker cover. Just don't spill it in your toolbox, you'll never get rid of it!
Thank you! I'll definitely consider it. A few other factors constraining time a bit on this project, but otherwise I'd be learning how to weld for this no question
Hi, I'm reviving a 240z that has the exact same thermostat housing with the big outlet and the other 3 little. But the car is missing the 3 little hoses and I'm trying to figure out which lines they plug into. Got. A pic? I haven't found a diagram and it doesn't show in the manual. Thank you in advance and I love your rebuild!
Got job now I can ,send your video to people that think a Z motor is over their head. If you can bolt a motor together, than you can mig weld in 30 minutes practicing on scrap metal and a UA-cam video. Mig welder $100 at harbour freight helmet auto Darkening is like $30. At HF. Get one and save many dollars and add another extremely useful skill. I've rebuilt two rusted Z cars same welder no issues.
question, do you think you’ll do any sort of breakdown of what it has cost to complete this build? also it’s looking sick. has me super inspired to start tearing into my L24.
Hey, I don't know if I want to look at the final bill haha. I might make a video for it but let me draft up a few of the more significant costs. A decent amount of things were done for me as favors. My dad has helped me with a few different things - refinishing the oil pan, he's working on the air cleaner for me right now, etc. A friend helped with getting some old plating off of the engine plate and the clear zinc intake tube you see at around 15:13. He also just finished up aluminum welding my distributor parts and drilling/tapping new holes. These were all favors basically -- either charged nothing or very little. I don't think they would be expensive if you found a shop near you, but just noting that I had a lot of help. I think Jason charged me around $500 for the machine shop work which is absurd (too low!)-- he gave me the friends rate considering he stuck around for hours to help me put everything together and teach me. It was around Christmas time so I gave him double that. I really don't know what real machine shop rates are so I'm inclined to not even add this here. Zinc plating was $150. They typically charge $150 per color and I had clear and yellow zinc. They mixed up a couple bolts and felt very bad about it plus I only had a couple clear zinc parts so they decided to just charge me for the yellow zinc. I tried to pay them more but they wouldn't let me! Vapor honing was about $50. At one point I dropped some stuff off at a media blasting company and they charged $150/hour! They came in at exactly an hour for a few parts (hmm) and charged me $150. A lot of little parts you can find prices for online. Water pumps and oil pumps are like $20-40 apiece. I've probably spent about $75 on new hardware. $50 for a gasket kit. A decent number of parts I have been able to pull out of my inventory from shop.zcarguide.com. I've also bought tons of other parts from different eBay sellers and other Z stores. I'm sure I've spent $500-1000 on all kinds of extra parts and things. I'm sure the final bill would be a bit unsettling to me if I could actually see it, but it has taken me almost 2 years so I would say for your own project it's best to go slowly and take your time anyway, so might as well spread out the cost too and buy things as you need them.
@@zcarguide I appreciate the thorough response! So far that’s not as bad as I was expecting. I don’t think $500 from the machine shop is bad at all. My grandfather had his U20 engine out of his roadster rebuilt by the machine shop and I wanna say it was about $800 for him, and that’s just a 4 cylinder. But, like you mentioned, spreading everything out over x amount of years would really lessen the blow. It’s just painful knowing it takes so long, lol
Just to be clear, I’m saying I think the machine shop charged me a bit less than normal as the owner is a friend of mine not more haha. Also I definitely really took my time with this, it really should only take a few months if you’re hustling a bit. The machine shop specializes in race engines and were busy from April to September 2021 so my engine was just sitting there for that time, and I took about 6 months with my job search at the beginning of this year. Not to mention, making sure I get footage of everything and release videos regularly makes it take a bit longer.
Hi there, saw your post on facebook engine looks stunning. I just had a quick question regarding your method of cleaning up the intake manifold and linkages. I sent mine to be media blasted, and they came back really rough and dull - nothing like original, in fact I'm worried I wont be able to use them at all. Any idea on what I can do to correct this?
Hey Troy, sorry to hear that. Send me a few pictures: mark@zcarguide.com. I went with vapor honing with ceramic beads. That can really shine them up so you may want to try that
Maybe rather than hiring a welder for the stand, buy a cheap on and get started. Welding is a very useful skill for working on these rust prone z cars, and even a cheap flux core welder can help you learn. You could probably get started with a flux core setup for $200 - $300 for a welder, hood, wire, gloves, and a grinder and some cutting wheels from harbor freight and/or Amazon.
I'm definitely considering it. I'd really love to learn how to weld. At the moment, I only have access to 120V in my garage and I was doing some preliminary research and had a couple people tell me it's best to learn with a good 220V unit. I may be moving soon and if I'm able to get a setup where I can get 220 in the garage, I'll consider it. For now though, I think with my timeframe it makes more sense not to add learning how to weld to my to-do list with this project.
@@zcarguide that’s understandable given your time frame. I have a dual voltage Vulcan welder from harbor freight, and it works well on 110v, so there are some good 110v options out there. Dual voltage machines can be run on either voltage, but with more welding power on 220v, so could be a good option if or when you do get one if you don’t yet have 220v.
A couple of tips: Dealing with oil pan bolts in a car is a pain, replace them with studs and nuts. Instead of RTV, use Permatex No 3 aviation goo on paper gaskets, you can reuse them forever. Also works well on rubber gaskets like the rocker cover. Just don't spill it in your toolbox, you'll never get rid of it!
re gaskets: makes sense, I’ll look into that in the future.
As for studs, the goal for this engine was high originality.
Great progress on the engine and a very informative video.
This is such a calming video. No pizazz, all meat and potatoes
Get you a cheap mug welder off market place
Make sure it’s got an argon bottle with it
Start practicing
That’s what I did
Good job on the engine
Thank you! I'll definitely consider it. A few other factors constraining time a bit on this project, but otherwise I'd be learning how to weld for this no question
Hi, I'm reviving a 240z that has the exact same thermostat housing with the big outlet and the other 3 little. But the car is missing the 3 little hoses and I'm trying to figure out which lines they plug into. Got. A pic? I haven't found a diagram and it doesn't show in the manual. Thank you in advance and I love your rebuild!
Got job now I can ,send your video to people that think a Z motor is over their head.
If you can bolt a motor together, than you can mig weld in 30 minutes practicing on scrap metal and a UA-cam video.
Mig welder $100 at harbour freight helmet auto Darkening is like $30. At HF.
Get one and save many dollars and add another extremely useful skill.
I've rebuilt two rusted Z cars same welder no issues.
Are you on any datsun page on FB?
question, do you think you’ll do any sort of breakdown of what it has cost to complete this build?
also it’s looking sick. has me super inspired to start tearing into my L24.
Hey, I don't know if I want to look at the final bill haha. I might make a video for it but let me draft up a few of the more significant costs. A decent amount of things were done for me as favors. My dad has helped me with a few different things - refinishing the oil pan, he's working on the air cleaner for me right now, etc. A friend helped with getting some old plating off of the engine plate and the clear zinc intake tube you see at around 15:13. He also just finished up aluminum welding my distributor parts and drilling/tapping new holes. These were all favors basically -- either charged nothing or very little. I don't think they would be expensive if you found a shop near you, but just noting that I had a lot of help.
I think Jason charged me around $500 for the machine shop work which is absurd (too low!)-- he gave me the friends rate considering he stuck around for hours to help me put everything together and teach me. It was around Christmas time so I gave him double that. I really don't know what real machine shop rates are so I'm inclined to not even add this here.
Zinc plating was $150. They typically charge $150 per color and I had clear and yellow zinc. They mixed up a couple bolts and felt very bad about it plus I only had a couple clear zinc parts so they decided to just charge me for the yellow zinc. I tried to pay them more but they wouldn't let me!
Vapor honing was about $50. At one point I dropped some stuff off at a media blasting company and they charged $150/hour! They came in at exactly an hour for a few parts (hmm) and charged me $150.
A lot of little parts you can find prices for online. Water pumps and oil pumps are like $20-40 apiece. I've probably spent about $75 on new hardware. $50 for a gasket kit. A decent number of parts I have been able to pull out of my inventory from shop.zcarguide.com. I've also bought tons of other parts from different eBay sellers and other Z stores. I'm sure I've spent $500-1000 on all kinds of extra parts and things.
I'm sure the final bill would be a bit unsettling to me if I could actually see it, but it has taken me almost 2 years so I would say for your own project it's best to go slowly and take your time anyway, so might as well spread out the cost too and buy things as you need them.
@@zcarguide I appreciate the thorough response! So far that’s not as bad as I was expecting. I don’t think $500 from the machine shop is bad at all. My grandfather had his U20 engine out of his roadster rebuilt by the machine shop and I wanna say it was about $800 for him, and that’s just a 4 cylinder. But, like you mentioned, spreading everything out over x amount of years would really lessen the blow. It’s just painful knowing it takes so long, lol
Just to be clear, I’m saying I think the machine shop charged me a bit less than normal as the owner is a friend of mine not more haha. Also I definitely really took my time with this, it really should only take a few months if you’re hustling a bit. The machine shop specializes in race engines and were busy from April to September 2021 so my engine was just sitting there for that time, and I took about 6 months with my job search at the beginning of this year. Not to mention, making sure I get footage of everything and release videos regularly makes it take a bit longer.
Hi there, saw your post on facebook engine looks stunning. I just had a quick question regarding your method of cleaning up the intake manifold and linkages. I sent mine to be media blasted, and they came back really rough and dull - nothing like original, in fact I'm worried I wont be able to use them at all. Any idea on what I can do to correct this?
Hey Troy, sorry to hear that. Send me a few pictures: mark@zcarguide.com. I went with vapor honing with ceramic beads. That can really shine them up so you may want to try that
@@zcarguide I will be picking them up this coming monday; I'll email you a picture then.
Anytime! I’m around. Best of luck, these are wonderful engines
Maybe rather than hiring a welder for the stand, buy a cheap on and get started. Welding is a very useful skill for working on these rust prone z cars, and even a cheap flux core welder can help you learn. You could probably get started with a flux core setup for $200 - $300 for a welder, hood, wire, gloves, and a grinder and some cutting wheels from harbor freight and/or Amazon.
I'm definitely considering it. I'd really love to learn how to weld. At the moment, I only have access to 120V in my garage and I was doing some preliminary research and had a couple people tell me it's best to learn with a good 220V unit. I may be moving soon and if I'm able to get a setup where I can get 220 in the garage, I'll consider it. For now though, I think with my timeframe it makes more sense not to add learning how to weld to my to-do list with this project.
@@zcarguide that’s understandable given your time frame. I have a dual voltage Vulcan welder from harbor freight, and it works well on 110v, so there are some good 110v options out there. Dual voltage machines can be run on either voltage, but with more welding power on 220v, so could be a good option if or when you do get one if you don’t yet have 220v.