MTG Lore: Origins of the Myr
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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2024
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From the stories of SOI, we learn some interesting things about other topics of the MTG universe. One of Tamiyo's magical scrolls tells the tail of the Myr on Mirrodin, and how they came to be as a species.
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I like "Meer" as the pronunciation for Myr. Also, they're flipping adorable.
+Jared Vargas i also always called them 'Meer'. Hence Mirrodin's pronunciation i guess
+Jared Vargas I always pronounce it as "meer" in a high pitched kitten--like mew :D
Same here!
I've always said it like Seiben as 'Mur' since the old Mirrodin Block Just like I always pronounced the Planes old name as Mur-oh-din
Thats always how I pronounced it.
Anyone Else find it endlessly amusing imagining Tamiyo walking around questioning a bunch of Myr about where they came from...
Yes.
Mirrodin was when I got into Magic, maybe that's why I love artifacts so much. Side note, OG Silver Myr is still one of my favorite arts in the game.
i started playing mtg during scars of mirridon. my first deck was based whole heartedly around myr. i love them more then any other tribe. phyrexia hit the myr had but i believe it helped them. it allowed them to adapt and gain new purpose. however i hope someday we are graced with a mirridon restored set were phyrexia loosens its grip on the plane.
I think the story calmed Jace because it HAD to calm him in his very nature. As Tamiyo finds out, Jace himself is split in many parties, some of which clash and compete. I think the assurance that inner disagreement like in the Myr population is something that can still be alright and finally not a big problem is exactly what Jace needs. Likely, Tamiyo didn't know of his many character-shards yet. Still, madness would disrupt the connection between one's actual personality or soul and one's actions or current thoughts, thus creating fragments needing to be forged together again. I think the concept of "e pluribus unum" is the key here.
this story just gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling for some reason
Not to be that guy to nitpick, but Karn didn't just "pick up the oil from his travels." That was Xantcha's phyrexian heart, and I think it's important to remember that... it's touching that Urza would remember his old friend like that.
It calmed Jace by being a meditation on the nature of sanity & having an un-influenced mind.
One slight flaw in your description of how Karn obtained the Glistening Oil of Phyrexia is he didn't pick it up on his travels, he ALWAYS had it. Karn was built with the Heart Stone of the deceased renegade Phyrexian Xanthia who Yawgmoth intended to use as a pawn against Urza, but instead betrayed Yawgmoth. When she was eventually killed in an attack by the Phyrexians, Urza took her heart stone & put it into Karn basically making him their son. Even still deep in that Heart Stone, the oil lurked.
The story removed the crazy part of Jace's mind like the repaired Myr removed a part of the other Myr's mind. This is like how the winter poem freezes things like the man in the poem was frozen and the concealment story conceals Tamiyo. The thing the story describes happens to some degree
"I dont know how this story calmed down Jace..."
**looks at Alloy Myr/Palladium Myr/Silver Myr**
"I completely understand how thinking of these perfect lil artifacts would be calming...think I can hug one?"
back when the mirrodin/new-phyrexia sets came out, I immediately knew I was going to make a Myr deck, although I didn't really know why I liked the Myr so much. I just sort of did. Now I understand why I like them so much.
Pretty sure it calmed him as he heard the simplicity of the Myr and their contentment with not knowing the answer to their puzzle even after they were confused and going in meaningless cycles. It's a spell within the story of following orders and thoughts is the loss of ingenuity and solving problems. Had the Myr never adapted even a tiny bit they would still be in their mess. Jace had to step back and realize his way wouldn't work without some alterations which the story teaches. That is my guess as to why it calmed him. It teaches you to try new solutions and sometimes not every answer is relevant.
myr my favorite artifact creatures and my theory why it calms his mind is quite simple sometimes running around looking for answers just ends up in more conflict then when you first started so basically chill and let things unravel on its own.
Jace was hellbent on searching for truth. this story presents the truth that some things are unknowable, and the pursuit of the unknowable can only lead to destruction which was the course that jace was currently taken. this allowed jace's usual logic to replace the madness in my opinion
That is my theory on that part too
Myrs are my favorite creature type and I love their design, i hope one day they will bring them back.
Tamiyo's storyspells I think work through semiotics. The use of symbols and metaphors and their interpretation in the stories fuel the function of Tamiyo's powers. Which is... really, really, REALLY cool as a concept.
Evidently the name Myr is based on the Greek “myrmeco-“, meaning ant. Words with this root, like myrmecology for example are pronounced “Mur”. The pronunciation in the video is likely closer to how Myr was originally intended to be pronounced.
Then they shouldn’t have pronounced the plane the way they do
@@WhatMyr I get what you’re saying, but in fairness the plane isn’t spelled with the “Myr-“ prefix but rather “Mirr-“
I feel the Myrs way of thinking is something we should all strive to and appreciate
Cool! Thanks for this video. The myr are one of my favorite creature types and the first deck I tried to build (it was just a bunch of golems and myr in a 100 card pile). Keep it up!
I'm awaiting a pure mirrodin once again, because as Jor Kadeen said, "as long as my hand still holds a sword, there is hope for a pure Mirrodin". Can't wait for them to go back to New Phyrexia. Thanks for the upload~
Great story. Best origin story from Myrrodin. 😉
Now I want to make a Myr deck
i thought the myr where just cute creatures on my cards, but this backround is one of the best i ever heard in mtg
Wow, this myth creation is incredible.
Tamiyo didn't exactly read Jace the story, she used the story to fuel her Magic. The Myr story is slightly mad as the two Myr got stuck in a loop and destroyed each other until interrupted when one was repaired, which is kinda similar to repairing Jace. Also as Nick Garner said, the story presents the truth to Jace's maddening goal.
What if some escaped? It would only take one. A lone myr would be a pretty interesting friend for a planeswalker.
WE FINALLY GOT A LEGENDARY MYR!!!
Down with pyrexia the myrs are to cute they need to be free
Plague myr: *”Allow me to introduce myself”*
@@endermeap6488 hes a chubby boy
Looks like I'm making a Myr deck. What interesting lil bastards.
Myr have such a beautiful looking design
I'd like to point out, the fact the Myr who created the identical, noticed his mistake and adapted to it, and these adoption can show the Myrs as a species can evolve from not being complete, so even without their creator, they will over time become a complete race, with More diversity, and without the need to have a master, and can possibly even create emotions over time allowing one to possibly to be similar to Karn, and implanting life into their species
I love the Myr😭
Jace is a person who only feels safe and in control with full knowledge of any situation. This is fair given his origins with brain washing. In the SOI/EM sets Jace is seeking truth and fact about the threats facing the multiverse, but given that this new threat along with Inistrad it'self drive madness into people, he cannot get any straight answers and he succumbs to both the madness, and his own flaw. Jace's perfectionism with knowledge cripples him at this point. Tamyo's story of the Myrs' origins may seem small and worthless, but means a great deal to the madness inflicted by Inistrad as well as Jace's perfectionism. As the Myr celebrate having differing opinions, Jace shouldn't be afraid of not knowing everything.
i'm more the phyrexian guy .. but i think the myr deserve to be cleansed and have their own little plane called myrrodin ^^
I demand a Myr version of Fruit Loops.
as a person who loves the Myr and made a tribal deck about them. thanks for the lore :)
The story gives a quandary for Jace to focus on and collect his thoughts. That's why the story was told. It helped him resharpen his mind by giving him to ponder and think on.
is he...talking faster..? PRAISE BE!
I actually sped up the video to double speed :p not really... but I'm trying lol.
+SeibenMTG Thank you so much for the trying! UA-camrs who actually grow and change gradually are so infrequent now
+SeibenMTG omg can i please have that rihanna mp3? it's soooo good
An amazing story about something so small. I have a new found love for the myr
i see how it could calm jace. jace himself is incompleet. he is fragmented in mind through multiple erased memorys from his former mentor and himself and he gave himself a new purpose.
He ponder it so much that it drove the madness mad and it killed itself.
the stories/songs serves as a catalyst for Tamiyo's spells. the way I see it, this story served as a disenchantment spell to relieve Jace of the maddening haze he was under.
the Myr are some of if not my favorite creatures in the game they were some of the first cards I traded for and were in my first deck when Darksteel came out.
"Meer". Like in Myrmidon.
All those people complaining about the mispronunciation of Myr, while he's still saying BelerAn instead of Beleren... Sort out your priorities people.
Anyways, love the videos. Great work.
Tamiyo is using a special kind of story magic (wich is now my one of my favorite kinds of magic) where the mage uses a story to cast a spell. The spells effect depends on the story but can also vary with how the mage decides to interprit the story when they cast the spell.
When Tamiyo uses the myr story we learn that she has never used it in quite the same way as she uses it on Jace. I think she emphasized the myr's act of only passing on parts of its mind to the other. Jaces mind was split into multiple parts most of them not a natural part of Jace. The spell left those parts out and only kept the part that is the Jace we all know and (at least I) love from before SOI.
MYR are the best and my favorite creature types!!!!!! love it!!
I wonder if swinging a myr by there feet like an axe would make a good weapon
According to Myr Battlesphere, it's at least as strong as a Relic Axe. Though to be fair, the Sphere is chucking the myr, not exactly equipping them
Sometimes the things that drive you mad are matters of conflicts of logic. Recognizing that an eventuality ( although achieved through hostility) ends up in peaceful resolution.. can be a very calming story.
He was out to solve a puzzle. A puzzle that was maddening him... He was saved... by another puzzle and a little adhd... Best writing I've ever seen from Wizards! HANDS DOWN
we need a myr commander and i have been waiting for so long
I might be a bit late here but what about Brudiclad? Was he released yet and I think he fits
My understanding is that her stories are her magic. She needed to repair Jace's mind, so she read a story about myr fixing/repairing each other.
+BionicKing That's my understanding, too. It's more like she "casts" the stories like spells, not even having to read them aloud.
I think that the myr creation story fixed Jace's mind in one (or multiple) of these three ways:
• the birth of myr gave Jace's mind a form of rebirth
• The unison despite conflict of the myr brought uniformity to his fractured mind
• The repair of the broken myr repaired his mind (I fancy this one the most)
The fundamental idea of harmony arising from an impossible paradox, which is the core belief of the Myr origin story, is what brought sanity back to Jace's fragmented mind. Just IMO of course.
Maybe we'll be going back next set?
We're not. We're returning to Chandra's home plane.
+jeremy debraccio Myr on Kaladesh?
+Ali Convoy the next block was announced, Kaledash, followed by Aether Revolt
+Liam Childs not really a return, Kaladesh was first introduced in Magic: Origins, but considering that was a core set I wouldn't really consider it a visit there. Especially because there were 9 other planes in that set.
The other good thing about this is that now with Kaladesh announced it seems likely we'll be seeing artifact creatures and possibly myrs
Myrs are awesome and all. So we're going to Kaladesh any thoughts on that Sieben?
The story stabilized Jace's mind by calling into order his different personalities. We saw them start to physically manifest in the story about the drownyard, and Tamiyo states in this story that Jace's mind is fractured and compartmentalized, comprised of many voices. The story was able to force the many reflections and facets of Jace's mind to align and function, unique but whole, just like the myr are of one purpose, but of differing opinions on which myr was their true creator.
Small mechanical beings celebrate diferences, crazy but interesting idea. Definitely the best original race of Magic.
It represent the search for individuality n the beauty of imperfection. If we were perfect We'd have nothing to live for. Jace, Who prides himself in his Intellect n reason above all else, was being consumed by Emrakul's Madness. Losing his ability to arrange his own thoughts, this story reminds him that his mind is his own. The Myr had Minds even though they were never designed to. "Life finds a way"
This was unexpectedly philosophical.
I think it's pronounced with a "tear" sound, like the nordic god tyr.
You're correct. Easiest way to remember is that "Myr Battlesphere" rhymes
no video on Nicol bolas?
the official pronunciation rhymes with deer and beer
Tamyio's magic takes the form of stories. She draws powers from those stories and uses it to shape the world like them. The spell that could trap Emrakul was based on the destruction of Serra's realm
In a way the story of the moral of the Myr is similar to Jace's mind. When someone's mind is frayed, like the Myr who realized how to reinvent an individual identify for the fallen Myr, the story repaired (contra to reinvent) Jace's mind by rearranging possibally his memory, but on his own...
I have so many old Mirrodin cards stored, and lots of them are Myrs. I was thinking about getting rid of my old MTG collection, but every time i look at it, good memories comes to my mind. I'd love, at least, to have a collection of Myrs or maybe the whole Mirrodin block, just because those cards has a great sentimental value. Besides, i love the theme and story behind it. PS: which is the correct pronunciation? I always pronounced "Meer".
The mere fact that of being told a story. One with philosophy may be how it calmed him.
It's been confirmed. Myr Battlesphere is the moon.
Perhaps Jace found solace when he was presented with a complex and mysterious origin story... because he's so intellectually powerful. Like opening a book about a subject you don't entirely understand, but wish to learn.
tell me all the lore!
Jace is a mind mage who has erased his own memory maybe(really stretch maybe) he gave myr a existing singularity but wiped it from their and his own memories. upon hearing of the continued existence calmed him
That was low-key a really cute story
yay finally the myrs lore is here.
I believe the story it self didn't bring calm to Jace's mind. What calmed his mind was the spells woven into the story.
I hope that wizards put that in as a way to for shadow a "return to Mirrodin"
perhaps Jayce started to speculate on the origin of the Myr just like the Myr themselves did? if he didn't know much about them before then I do believe it could calm him down
the voice that told it might have helped, I don't know ^^'
my guess would be that the philosophy of how they came to be was what he grasped onto to return to sanity
Nice Video but what is the music in the background.
I love the myr. They are freaking amazing
We know that these stories of hers hold magic in them, so maybe instead of "calming" him down the story instead "repaired" his mind by uploading a imperfect version of his mind. That's how the issue for those two identical myr was solved so it would reason that's how this problem might be solved too.
Myr are the cutest.
Myr Mindservant is my favorite!
I wonder if you could emulate the Myr creatures using the stats of the Modrons in D&D 5e...
I know there nonstandard now but if I wanted to buy some what is the name of the series their in so I can cause I got some when I was younger and don't know the series name
that many editions on just one plane?
Its absolutely the about the mind and how it was created and gave the myr individual thoughts
Story got spellchecked to absolutely
It's about a fractured mind finding harmony. Jace hade multiple personality fighting for control. I think it makes sense.
lmao!! the 8 bit ending though!!!!! genius!!! WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK
I liked just for the outro music.
I would assume that the story helped Jace because he had the same question as to which was the first myr and why do they celebrate?
so we're going back to mirrodin or new phyrexia or whatever its called now
Thanks for this!
I wonder if these will come back in kaledesh
hard, myr are native to mirrodin, kaladesh is already full with thopters
maybe they could have something to do with the aether revolt
except that the myr don't have the means to travel to other planes. The only ones in MtG lore who can do that are the following:
1- Planeswalkers.(due to their "spark", and they used to be literal nigh-omnipotent beings, but due to the mending event(look it up or watch the lore series of TheManaSource to know about it), they are now just mortals with planeswalking power.)
2- Demons(though so far only the most powerful kinds of demons have shown that ability).
3- Eldrazi (they are from the blind eternity between planes to begin with after all).
4- Beings of extremely high power like Marit Lage(probably traveling from planes to planes in a similar way to that of demons).
5- The Phyrexians(in their case, they do it through pure technology, which is even more impressive in my opinion).
Finally, while the possibility of Phyrexians being behind the events of the Aether Revolt is indeed there, the Myr on the other hadn aren't Phyrexians. The Myr are native to Mirrodin and aren't anywhere near the technological height of the Phyrexians.
Jace was insane and the story about two sides of the same coin .its like left and right side of the brain but more like two left sides and no right
Is it not "meer" not "mer"
+Aidan Lucas He lives in a similar area I grew up in, it's just how we speak.
Thats ok I was just curious
Aidan Lucas
My accent was way heavier when I was a kid. We used to pronounce it either mr or mil
i want to be a myr in my next life
as melhores e mais bonitas criaturas de magic!
Myr kinda remind me of the Machines from Nier: Automata
So I'm new to this channel. How often are FNLs? I started watching right before the last one.
I try to do one every Friday but it's really based on a lot of different variables.
I really want to make a myr deck.
I love your videos!! Can you do a lore video on darksteel