I am greatly saddened to hear this history that I was not totally familiar with. These great people were treated the same way the Native North First Nations were treated. The rise of non indigenous shamans is a longing to be reconnected with the tribal shamanism that existed in Europe before it was persecuted and wiped out by the Holy Roman Empire. Yet, I totally understand the words of the gentleman speaker. I am encouraged that people are again interested in the Old Ways. Our culture is starving spiritually toe reconnected to the Spirit of the Earth that technology cannot fill. City dwellers who live in massive sprawling endless buildings and little sense of nature and cannot even se the stars at night. This makes us sick.
Holy Roman Empire? They never colonized anything plus during the time of colonization it was already an overly decentralized 'state' of many other small inner states with actual power.
While native americans were utterly destroyed by colonials, same cannot be said about the Turkic nations. We are still here and mostly independant so the comparison doesn't stand. However, what russian empire did was beyond inhumane so I agree with that part of your statement.
This is really narrow and distorted vision of the big land and big history of Altai, my family was deported from Zamulta village in Altai and locals saved my grate grandad and his sons and help them to get to China (I am white) please don't talk about Russia till you open time .. good time in that country.
@@lilywhite8157 I am sorry I offended you, I think. I have been to Russia and there are many positive beautiful aspects like the USA but we cannot dismiss history and the brutalities that are often swept under the carpet. I lived in a Russian Jewish, Russian Neighborhood in Chicago. You must keep the story of your Great Grandfather alive.
@@franticmower7300 To be fair, commies tried to destroy both the Slavics and Turkics. So it would be unfair to say it was "russians" per se. However, tsardom was an entirely different concept. It was a religiously and racially motivated polity who didnt recognise the life of anyone who is not a slav and orthodox christian.
It was one of Stalin's evil plans to wipe out the Kazakhs who were the original Altai people. He first divided the territory of Altai into 4 countries: Kazakhstan, Russia, China, and Mongolia. Then, other races were deported to destroy the cultural values. After that, the mines were opened and locals had to work hard there and the leaders were killed. It is such tragic to talk about all these stories... But as a Kazakh, I know that our ancestral roots are still there, in Altai. But so different from each other...
@@st4r444 Lmao you're anti white and racist, are you proud of yourself? Yes Whites practiced shamans or you have not heard of the 7k year old shaman women they dug up in Germany? Ok, go sit down racist.
In the words I heard from Thomas Benyacya's lips. "A man who goes looking for diamonds in someone else's far off land will have nothing to bring back home to his own People" or something like that, I was very young. Stay in your own place and find what's inside that the spirit of your homeland will give up to you. For heavens sake and omg it shows how empty the people who have control of the big wheel are.
All these educational institutions and they teach nothing. What I know I had to learn on my own and there's good reason for that...inside every human is an ancestor and the ancestors don't like to be thieved from. The folk of the BIG wheel don't want anyone protecting the voice of the land.
Some people are completely dumb when they say they are not related to native Americans I mean take a look at this guy 5:37 he clearly looks 100 percent Native American just the fact he’s speaking Russian
This isn't new age. They've had similar religions in the past, ad the native religions still exist in surrounding areas, it's just progressing. This is definitely not similar in any way to the American "new age" bullcrap movement which was created as a mockery of native religions.
What do you call 4:30 where non-Siberian people are coming onto the land and selling invented Siberian ceremonies to non-Siberian tourists for profit that doesn't go back to the native Siberian community they're intruding on? That's New Age to the letter my friend, and it is a mockery of a native religion.
@@AtenRa In some ways I agree. My ancient ancestors are Siberian, Turkic but also Norwegian. If I decided to come there to become a shaman it would be for nothing more than to commune with the spirits of my ancestors and to lend my voice to the winds of change.
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This ancient people are the Father's of native Americans these are their ancestors..and the decendent of ganghes Khan so chistopher Columbus was not the first to discover America ,it was the Mongols,the Vikings,the polonisians,Egyptians,Greeks,and the Africans,and the phinicians .....
Christine Le These people are decendent from Huns. They re called Turks and they almost spread all over asia and in even europe. I am a Turk from Turkey. I will always be proud to be Turk as well as to havemongolian bonds in my blood.
When native Americans migrated from asia, the people didn't look like this. The early siberians were darker and more Australasian looking. These newer chinese looks replaced the older people
Ah, we did the same thing with the "whitemen" though, when we "decided" to go south and west and take their lands. We also interbred with them over here :(
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 Ugh oh don't be bringing up G Khan or you'll get put in the corner in the big teepee. Oh wait.... never mind about the teepee.
In my view...Their looks like chinese...eyes and face structure...just that they speak russian...i highly respect those who care alot of our nature,be it from central asia,america or africa,we respect you...we as the dayaks of borneo island held the same view onto nature...as nature provide us everything,we need to take care of our nature and customs...any tourist should be warned upfront in their behaviour and thought before visiting any sacred land...or something bad will happed,if we anger the local spirits
@@xXTheLigitGamersXx You stupid. I am from Turkey northeast. And I can speak with other Turkic peoples. Today, shaman and old Turkish traditions are still being applied in Anatolia and balkans. It is not European / Russian culture. It is Uralic / Altaic culture. TURKEY IS NO IN EUROPE AND TURKEY IS NO IN MIDDLE EAST AND TURKEY NOT HAVE THE EUROPEAN CULTURE. TURKEY IS URALIC/ALTAIC COUNTRY!!!
I am glad your christ never reached them cause it would bring them only destruction I am glad people are coming to Their old ways far more older than your christ.
It’s a miracle that your false middle eastern religion made to manipulate poor people never got to altay as it did to other lands. Christendom is a copy of mesopotamian religions and the only reason you blindly follow it is because rome conquered the british isles and you’re too brainwashed to admit it’s false.
Jesus Christ was likely a shaman who people wouldn't leave the hell alone to the degree that they killed him and then even after death wouldnt leave him alone.
I am greatly saddened to hear this history that I was not totally familiar with. These great people were treated the same way the Native North First Nations were treated. The rise of non indigenous shamans is a longing to be reconnected with the tribal shamanism that existed in Europe before it was persecuted and wiped out by the Holy Roman Empire. Yet, I totally understand the words of the gentleman speaker. I am encouraged that people are again interested in the Old Ways. Our culture is starving spiritually toe reconnected to the Spirit of the Earth that technology cannot fill. City dwellers who live in massive sprawling endless buildings and little sense of nature and cannot even se the stars at night. This makes us sick.
Holy Roman Empire? They never colonized anything plus during the time of colonization it was already an overly decentralized 'state' of many other small inner states with actual power.
While native americans were utterly destroyed by colonials, same cannot be said about the Turkic nations. We are still here and mostly independant so the comparison doesn't stand. However, what russian empire did was beyond inhumane so I agree with that part of your statement.
This is really narrow and distorted vision of the big land and big history of Altai, my family was deported from Zamulta village in Altai and locals saved my grate grandad and his sons and help them to get to China (I am white) please don't talk about Russia till you open time .. good time in that country.
@@lilywhite8157 I am sorry I offended you, I think. I have been to Russia and there are many positive beautiful aspects like the USA but we cannot dismiss history and the brutalities that are often swept under the carpet. I lived in a Russian Jewish, Russian Neighborhood in Chicago. You must keep the story of your Great Grandfather alive.
@@franticmower7300 To be fair, commies tried to destroy both the Slavics and Turkics. So it would be unfair to say it was "russians" per se. However, tsardom was an entirely different concept. It was a religiously and racially motivated polity who didnt recognise the life of anyone who is not a slav and orthodox christian.
It was one of Stalin's evil plans to wipe out the Kazakhs who were the original Altai people. He first divided the territory of Altai into 4 countries: Kazakhstan, Russia, China, and Mongolia. Then, other races were deported to destroy the cultural values. After that, the mines were opened and locals had to work hard there and the leaders were killed. It is such tragic to talk about all these stories... But as a Kazakh, I know that our ancestral roots are still there, in Altai. But so different from each other...
But Russians claim Stalin and soviets loved the indigenous. Soviet history = secret lies
"First they take our land. Next they will want our language. Now they want our culture."
Never! We are putting up the fight here in the "Western Frontier" and we will forever, distant-brother! Tengri bless the sons of Sibir! cCc
Lmao at whites practicing shamanism.
@@st4r444 Lmao you're anti white and racist, are you proud of yourself? Yes Whites practiced shamans or you have not heard of the 7k year old shaman women they dug up in Germany? Ok, go sit down racist.
I'm native american of the swampy cree tribe. Altai culture is very similar to our culture.
Craig Young yeah, altai is ancient and the ancestors home of alot of people.
Bro them are turks and not native americans
@@catdowntheroad2782 Native americans originate from people of northern asia it makes sense that the cultures are alike
Owand 501 Bro who Tf cares about america
@@jaroslavtvortsoff4938 writing Turks in english and Türks in turkish makes them different??? What an moron lol
How do you get in contact with some of these people in the Altai region?
One day i wish to visit the lands of altay, even in my home village in Afghanistan people tell of the altay mountains and tanri
In the words I heard from Thomas Benyacya's lips. "A man who goes looking for diamonds in someone else's far off land will have nothing to bring back home to his own People" or something like that, I was very young. Stay in your own place and find what's inside that the spirit of your homeland will give up to you. For heavens sake and omg it shows how empty the people who have control of the big wheel are.
This shows strong connections to the culture of the Native Americans .
That is logical because the first people moved to America via Siberia/north Asia
biggest difference they have is that siberian shamans use metal aswell and that the drums are build in another more unique way
No, not at all.
NATIVE AMERICANS had Turkic and Mongolic blood my friend. All Turks Know that fact :) so we dont suprise about our similarities..
All these educational institutions and they teach nothing. What I know I had to learn on my own and there's good reason for that...inside every human is an ancestor and the ancestors don't like to be thieved from. The folk of the BIG wheel don't want anyone protecting the voice of the land.
Qeni qökböre?
The horrors if that world knows no end!!
“Imitation of their rituals” they show a “European” shaman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some people are completely dumb when they say they are not related to native Americans I mean take a look at this guy 5:37 he clearly looks 100 percent Native American just the fact he’s speaking Russian
he also might be a Korean whose ancestors are mixed up with locals
This isn't new age. They've had similar religions in the past, ad the native religions still exist in surrounding areas, it's just progressing. This is definitely not similar in any way to the American "new age" bullcrap movement which was created as a mockery of native religions.
What do you call 4:30 where non-Siberian people are coming onto the land and selling invented Siberian ceremonies to non-Siberian tourists for profit that doesn't go back to the native Siberian community they're intruding on? That's New Age to the letter my friend, and it is a mockery of a native religion.
@@AtenRa In some ways I agree. My ancient ancestors are Siberian, Turkic but also Norwegian. If I decided to come there to become a shaman it would be for nothing more than to commune with the spirits of my ancestors and to lend my voice to the winds of change.
@@AtenRa Have you heard of the 8th fire prophacy?
@@wilka171i am curious, what is that?
A new book on Carlos Castaneda and the Native American Shamans is published! The Science of Seers. A must-read to understand the wisdom of Shamans and this universe!
ua-cam.com/video/x6ROjwcaiAo/v-deo.html
Castaneda was a fraud. His PhD thesis was fraudulent and contained no material about Yaqui culture. He wrote a first draft of a novel.
This ancient people are the Father's of native Americans these are their ancestors..and the decendent of ganghes Khan so chistopher Columbus was not the first to discover America ,it was the Mongols,the Vikings,the polonisians,Egyptians,Greeks,and the Africans,and the phinicians .....
Christine Le These people are decendent from Huns. They re called Turks and they almost spread all over asia and in even europe. I am a Turk from Turkey. I will always be proud to be Turk as well as to havemongolian bonds in my blood.
We are putting up the "fight" here in the estern frontier. Against all odds! Tengri Bless the Sons of Sibir and Altai cCc
When native Americans migrated from asia, the people didn't look like this. The early siberians were darker and more Australasian looking. These newer chinese looks replaced the older people
The white man is so lost he has to do things like this
Stalin killed many white men as well
And Stalin was georgian
First read about what happen. Your comment makes no sense
Ah, we did the same thing with the "whitemen" though, when we "decided" to go south and west and take their lands. We also interbred with them over here :(
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 Ugh oh don't be bringing up G Khan or you'll get put in the corner in the big teepee. Oh wait.... never mind about the teepee.
In my view...Their looks like chinese...eyes and face structure...just that they speak russian...i highly respect those who care alot of our nature,be it from central asia,america or africa,we respect you...we as the dayaks of borneo island held the same view onto nature...as nature provide us everything,we need to take care of our nature and customs...any tourist should be warned upfront in their behaviour and thought before visiting any sacred land...or something bad will happed,if we anger the local spirits
Short said real Turkic turks
Mongolians!
these are central asian and eurasian/russian cultures. It may have turkic descent but they are nothing similar to modern turks in Turkey
And most of us don't like Turkey or even care about the country!
@@xXTheLigitGamersXx You stupid. I am from Turkey northeast. And I can speak with other Turkic peoples. Today, shaman and old Turkish traditions are still being applied in Anatolia and balkans. It is not European / Russian culture. It is Uralic / Altaic culture. TURKEY IS NO IN EUROPE AND TURKEY IS NO IN MIDDLE EAST AND TURKEY NOT HAVE THE EUROPEAN CULTURE. TURKEY IS URALIC/ALTAIC COUNTRY!!!
@@xXTheLigitGamersXx t. Australian Shitposter
Komedisel indir unsuru
💋 💋 💋 💋 💋 💋 Altai sibier meheilowka kus aus russland russija rassija russija 🇷🇺 🇷🇺 🇷🇺 🇷🇺 ❤️❤️❤️❤️💞💞💞👍💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐
They all need a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.Holy Bible KJV.
I am glad your christ never reached them cause it would bring them only destruction I am glad people are coming to Their old ways far more older than your christ.
It’s a miracle that your false middle eastern religion made to manipulate poor people never got to altay as it did to other lands. Christendom is a copy of mesopotamian religions and the only reason you blindly follow it is because rome conquered the british isles and you’re too brainwashed to admit it’s false.
Jesus Christ was likely a shaman who people wouldn't leave the hell alone to the degree that they killed him and then even after death wouldnt leave him alone.
@@crono3339 and then in the name of the God slaughtered whole civilizations it is incredibly how once sect gained so much power.
All you need is Tengri 😊