I'm going to leave my Ferrari in weather and wind, instead of in a garage ! This is insane, after so many years almost all works. And for Stefan of Redbaycars!! Thumbs up, thats great he is donating those boxes for you. I'm also a happy client of his web shop.
Being a 512BB owner in the U.S., I can provide a few suggestions. Dinoplex ignition modules are known to fail with regularity. Need to replace it with an MSD 6A unit or equivalent, unless you have even deeper pockets. Camshaft drive belt service is normally an "engine out" operation. Can be done in your garage if you take out the fuel/petrol tanks. The OEM wheels are TRX type...metric dimensions...requiring metric tires. A bad experiment by Michelin...but tires still made by Coker Tire in U.S.. Good luck !!
I had an BMW E28 535i with those TRX wheels, 390mm diameter. The only options I had at the time (early 2000's) were the original Michelin's or Avon Tyres. The Avon's were twice the price. The Michelins were pretty poor tyres, noisy, and low grip in the wet
P.S. Oil ALWAYS looks good in a car sitting for years. WHY ?? .. .. because all the crap & dirt are at the bottom of the pan. NOT in the oil, as it would be .. if in a recently running vehicle. Moral of this story ?? Always good to drop the oil pan to get rid of the accumulation of sludge from sitting. Good time to check the bearing wear & install a new oil pump/pumps whatever .. while you clean & reseal. That's it. Carry on & thank you !!
Good points. This tricks a lot of people. When a car like this has been sitting for that long, there's really no point even in trying to start the engine without dropping the pan, flushing it, replacing gaskets, checking free movement off the starter, replacing all the plugs, caps, wires...
The cheepy sound is from the high tension ignition unit and it is actually a good sign and normal. My 911 from 1981 has the same setup, just from Bosch.
He was convinced it wasn’t normal. If they don’t make that noise they aren’t normal. Many people use modern ignitions to replace them because they all make that annoying noise by design.
I think the ignition unit is behaving as designed. It was quite common in 80's era cars to have an alarm sound on the ignition before moving the key from ready to start. Some Mercs of the era do it.
I think so too, plus replacing those intakes and fixing the starter. Others have said the ignition unit should be fine. The engine oil looks great, maybe fish around a bit to see if there is any gunk there, replace the filters, belts and whatnot. I shouldn't jinx you, but I think it's going to fire up just fine. Tires and brakes, and you have a runner. GOOD LUCK!!!
I'm binge watching this whole 512 series with my dad on Christmas day. Thanks for the quality content dude.....i have barely spent any time with my dad this year. Looking very much forward to watch your videos! 😊😊😊😊
As mentioned many times. It's normal for the ignition CDI box to make a high pitched sound when energizing the circuit. What NO ONE has mentioned is that usually these units are triggered by points in the distributor. When checking the points only use a feeler gauge to set the points gap. Never use a dwell meter on CDI. It blows up the unit and you know that will be expensive. So, great to see a DIY Ferrari enthusiast! Getting into working on all areas of the car. Happy Holidays and looking forward to you having this beast running.
You have the ignition on without the engine running, so that whine may well be normal. I've heard a good few cars do that. You've got the ignition circuit energised. BTW I always try to minimise the time I have the ignition on without the engine running as on many older cars you can cook things like the coil(s) having the ignition on for extended periods not running the engine... So I'd say keep going and don't condemn that box or even worry about it until you're ready to try starting it up / testing the ignition system. Loving your appetite for Ferrari acquisition!
BBi owner here again. A few thoughts: -The high pitch engine bay noise is normal and not excessively loud. Mine does it too. You can replace the Dinoplex with an MSD if you want an non-OEM update -Your A/C is already updated to R134a! (conversion sticker seen in one of your videos). It should need a leak test and charge -The shifter position didn't change from LHD to RHD (unlike the wiper) which could be a perk. Mine rubs my thigh with any shifts into/out of First. You have better clearance. Keep it up!
Thanks Josh, its great to hear this from another BBi owner, thats exactly what I wanted to hear. Does the noise go once the engine starts or does the engine simply drown the noise ?
@@Ratarossa Just took her out this Morning to double check, but it makes the noise all-the-time. Under acceleration, you don’t notice it, but now I’m hyper-attuned to it at a light or stop 😐
@@josht1091 Sorry Buddy you are going to hear it all the time now. I would love to get a video from you of yours doing the same that I could include in a future video
@@Ratarossa No worries! The answer to the high pitched noise is more accelerator 😎 I’d love to put a video together for your channel! Let me see what I can do after Christmas. Happy Holidays!! 🎄
I'm no Magneti Marelli expert, but the noise sound like a capacitor vibrating, so there is an outside chance it will go away when running. The electrical stuff still running is definitely a blessing.
I just don't understand that you don't vacuum up the engine compartment before you start opening things up. The chance of having dirt enter other areas of the engine is not worth the risk.
*makes Wally's like you watch don't it* *Like asking the viewers questions,it annoys the OCD freaks but they watch it bashin out replies from mummy's box room while eating a pot noodle & wearing star wars pajamas*
No lie, driving me nuts he's not cleaning this car before working on it. Absolutely no advantage of not doing so. Much easier to take apart and not worry about crud getting everywhere. Also easier to diagnose issues
Even though I want to go pummel the previous owner, I'm happy that it's in the hands of a knowledgeable collector. I'm also happy that you HAVEN'T YET STARTED IT. It makes me really angry when someone lifts the hood of a classic car that hasn't run in 20 years and pour starting fluid down its throat when they have no idea of the condition of the oil.
so cool that airbox is ok, those rubbers we have made moulds and used smooth-on products to make new ones.. worked out cheap and the ones we made should be more durable, bently advanced materials sell the moulding stuff.. We remade the induction ducting out of pre-preg carbon and painted them.. lighter, strong and they look totally the same as the originals. (the ducting was really rusty and messed up, we used the outside as the mould buck for the mould. Love Redbay and Eurospares Claudio was so helpful. cannot wait to see this moving a long merry xmas
That electronics unit that’s making the high pitch sound. I wouldn’t be worried to much about it, could be designed like that to let you know the ignition is on, but even if not then it will just be a component running at a frequency that’s audible. (coil whine) even new parts suffer from coil whine (mainly computer parts like graphics cards and the pitch changes when demand changes what wouldn’t be the case here)
Yes it could be a buzzer that sounds to avoid you keeping contact ON and drain the battery, you have similar things on boats for example and i’ve seen (heard it) on racecars as well.
If you look at the diagram here, there's no such thing as a buzzer. I go with the 'tchouzebra4' and the external buzzer. www.dinoplex.org/PDF/AEC104B660780_Circuit_and_Component_Diagram.pdf Edit : Having read 100s of threads here, maybe a high-pitch frequency whine from the caps discharging ?
Many ignition boxes make a noise like yours. It is always there, but once the car is running you can no longer hear it. Easily replaceable with aftermarket pieces that can be hidden within the original box too if it has failed, which is regrettably common with early Marelli units.
@@Ratarossa I have not worked with that specific ignition box, but I would do nothing to it until you prove the absence of spark. Do the cam belts first, clean the fuel system and try to start this engine. If the noise is still audible over the rest of the running noises then it is time to make a noise isolator or re-locate the box away from the firewall. I am confident you will not hear it.
Scott, I'm an electronics design engineer (embedded systems) and as a fellow petrol head / past Ferrari owner I am getting into the repair and refurbishment of classic car electronics. I'd be interested in helping with this if your ecu is faulty. Let me know? Take a look here for some useful info on this ecu (search the page for 'AEC 104').
Well done Scott - you know in my experience of them injection systems - tank drained and flushed - fuel lines cleared - check fuel delivery- change filters - check system control pressure - dead head the fuel pump and check the max pressure - put the injectors in a bucket bypass the fuel pumps and push the plates down to check spray ! Replace the injector seals - If this all checks out then she will fire up easily !! I'm talking in VW terms but the principle is the same ! Only get the metering heads rebuilt if you are having trouble with control pressures ! Great Work and Videos - can't wait for the next one !!
Seeing one of my childhood favorite super cars landing in the hands of someone making things happen in their own garage is fantastic. Found you after watching Matt Farah drive the Ratarossa. Thanks for the great content and Cheers!
Seeing the incredible condition of the filter boxes makes me wanna cheer. Whereas its a small victory, any victory is better than not. Plus the condition of the oil makes me feel that the internals are going to be better than expected. Hot Diggity Dog =D
Amazing content ! I've found your channel yesterday and I'm loving the BBI videos ! I hope you will be able to finish that project soon and please, show us all the steps you take ! Cheers from Brazil..
My dad had a 365 bb spyder, one of the only ones sanctioned by ferrari. My absolute favourite ferrari. Well done on this 512, do it proud mate, would absolutely love to work on it.
From New Zealand, Love the videos, however it is frustrating to see some of the things you do ie shorting out the cable to the starter motor, the arcing effect will destroy the thread so not a good idea to do that. The starter sounded and appeared to turn over quite slowly, I would suggest a service with new brushes or at least have an automotive electrician check it out. Yes I know most viewers want the car cleaned, and so do I, especially the motor before you start taking off parts. This would help to stop derby falling into the the internals. Good luck with the project and Merry Christmas
I expected the whole starter to roll away once the juice was applied, due to the generated torque, but instead it slowly began to spin like it was on 6 volts.
Just wanted you to know that I am having a blast watching you revive this bellezza. Not sure if it matters but I am sitting through all of your ads, which I hope helps you financially.
I wish you were local to me in Midlands, I’ve been binge watching the old vids, currently following the 512 BB rebuild. I’d come over and be your apprentice, loving the in depth technical repairs that save people thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds !!! Keep it up !
Re-engineering the window mech's is a really good idea.. on 308's and similar generation stuff there are some awesome cheaper alternative things out there that are a totally worth upgrade.. Redcar Restoration in texas do coil over conversions for that era of car! They re-engineer the shocks .. send them yours and you get back a fully adjustable set, with spring adjusters for a good price! Which is awesome so they still look stock but are now adjustable! meaning.. car stays extremely original but now you can get the bounce / ride height right where it should be. The window units if you pull the whole lot out and make them more rigid / improve the cable run / lower the friction in the runners! wow what a difference. Great videos dude!! Matt :)
Scott...The cis in my 83 911sc made that same noise.. it is the ignition box working.. one day it stopped making that noise and the car stranded me so I replaced it with an MSD Box because the factory ignition was 1000 bucks! Ouch.
Sold al my project cars this year. Lets say for the largest project of my life(kids and love them every day). This is why I love watching this and appreciate it so much. Thanks!
Scott, looks like you've got an immobilizer key fob slot in the dash next to the radio. I guess the fob went missing with the keys. It would be great to see a video on figuring out that headache. 👍🏻
I don’t even like Ferrari’s but am liking this series after going down the youtube rabbit hole and watching this restoration series. Some job on your hands but good luck,am sure it will be restored and put back on the road 👍🏻
Why in the world would you start working in that engine bay without blowing out all of the debris? Asking for problems if some of that junk falls into an area that you open up. Also, put some soap and water on that exterior and "hoover" the interior. There is no need to try to get a specialist to come from the US to detail a car that will need some paint and body work anyway.
I think he is trolling us. It is so uncomfortable to watch him sitting in that minging hairy interior, and watch him pulling bits off the engine with all that loose crap all over it that could be vacuumed off in 20 seconds
Blow all the crud off the engine, you don't any of it falling into the engine whilst you removing parts! Just think what could fall into those combustion chambers if you remove the plugs!
This car is a true survivor! It was meant to be restored by you! Looking forward to the next episode! Hope you and yours have a very Happy Christmas 🎄🎅🏻 and a Safe, Healthy and Happy New Years 🍾 !
Great project! Excited to follow along. I noticed the LED and the rectangular port next to the radio. That’s used for an old school immobilizer system. You might have to disable that before the first start 👍
A very good friend of mine had a 1978 512 BB. It was in absolutely perfect condition and had very little miles. As soon as you turned the ignition key it made the exact same high pitched noise. In my opinion this is nothing to worry about. As a matter of fact I remember a 512 BBi that was parked next to us on a Ferrari meeting which sounded the same. And once this engine is running again you most certainly won't hear any of this noise anyway...😄 Can't wait to hear the beast fire up!
Reach out to Tyrrell's classic workshop for when you have issues you cannot resolve, they can probably source most parts and rebuild stuff that is irreplaceable.
I seriously suspect that in that car's past its either been fastidiously looked after (before being outside 12 years) or had a fairly in depth restoration especially to the electrics 😂 electrics in Italian car's of that age just don't look that good good (glove box panel) let alone still operate, also the oil inside the air filter boxes that has probably stopped any corrosion may be from the actual air filters as you can get oil sprays for filters which help pull smaller particals out the air and trap them in the oily filter surface.
There's another vid where he tells that there is a paper with this 512BB from Ferrari or a dealership that says this 512BB Is in perfect state.. maybe best there is. And after that it sat for 14yrs.... sad (Correct me if i'm wrong)
@@nssherlock4547 yeh i don’t know much about Ferrari engines hence me watching the channel... I didn’t know it was a remote sump, point still stands though majority of gunge maybe in remote tank not the block, so I guess could clean that out if access is easy
I have to say, I've never thought I would want to own a Ferrari, but after seeing this episode I'm in love with the archaeology of restoring one of these things. It may be nice to buy a new one but rescuing one from becoming a parts car just seems so cool.
Digging this project and I'm glad someone is saving this unique and awesome car. People get super intimidated by the CIS stuff but if you're like me and have worked on virtually any old European car, you can appreciate the CIS setup as a whole. The airflow meters move great, only things left to do is to check both fuel dizzys themselves for corrosion and old varnished fuel. Some of them had screens installed from the factory which should be removed and inspected. I don't know how the shops do things overseas as I am in the states, but usually a gas analyzer and a 3mm allen wrench is all you need to adjust them. As far as Magnetti Marelli, they're parts were manufactured much better back then as compared to present day, so you may be okay with a good amount of those components. That box that is making the noise is basically an ICM, and yes, some of them do make that noise when you turn the key into accessory. You may be alright there. As far as the knock-offs go, grab yourself a lead hammer designed for removing/ installing the center lugs. The lowrider guys with true wires will have them, so that's where I'd look for the lead mallet. Great project, and one hell of a score finding this car.👍
The fact that those air scoop/intake things rusted probably saved those airboxes and mechanical fuel distributors which might only need some new O rings to be good to go. The Air filters (being like a K&N oiled maybe?) I'm guessing really saved those parts with the slight oil coating on them, Nice! I have a car with a Mechanical fuel distributor from the late 80s ,and if taken good care of they work surprisingly well. Maybe the engine doesn't have to be opened up??
Best episode so far. The three first ones was a little bit "too much talking and too little work" but this episode was a big leap forward in that regard. Will keep watching and recommend to friends :-)
Spend a few pounds and get a borescope camera. I can’t see how it wouldn’t be beneficial, not only to mechanical side of knowledge gain but also to the visual enhancement of your video capture.
Only thing I would do extra is to open the heads and oil everything before starting for the first time and use proper stuff, some original recipe red line oil. Everything is 14 years dry by now.
@@WillyMcCoy50 , I think it’s been proven many times over, just because it sat doesn’t dictate a rebuild is the default path. You only rebuild when the damage is sufficient to warrant. This isn’t your dad’s Oldsmobile!
@@jontiffinphoto Yep, leak down / compression test is all thats really needed, scope the bores and if it all looks good and the compression is good then just replace the belts and do a full service and see how she runs.
I can’t help but notice that there’s what looks like an aftermarket immobiliser installed, with the ‘key’ slot next to the stereo. I hope you either have the chip, or it’s disconnected because otherwise it looks like some wire sorting will have to happen
If its anything like the immobiliser I paid to have fitted in the early 2000s, it'll only take 15 minutes to remove as it'll have been installed so badly
I'm very interested to see if you have compression.....and yes, I still would drop the engine and replace all soft goods, replace/repair brackets and rust in the engine bay, ETC. , but there are fifty was to do something that all have the same outcome....Best of luck & Merry Christmas.
no it seemed completely flat ground, when i uinstall the new ones hopefully I will get a clear picture, i suspect there much be a slight slope internally to avoid water getting in under normal driving circumstances
I love how you just do not care a crap about the aesthetics / paint work! It’s just great. For the heck of you should wash them with sand in the bucket!
Careful with that old a/c blower system, stand back before switching on, you never know what's lurking in the pipes that have sat for 12 years. Excellent work BTW!
@@trading7000 absolutely, can’t remember the last time I watched BBC that I have to pay for! I wanted to make a tv channel that just broadcasts my favourite UA-cam channels :-)
I m really excited by this project! I hope your Channel will grow thanks to it. I watch your vids since your first collab with samcrack and the quality of your content has improved dramaticamly. Congrats and keep it up! I hope you can get a hand on a neglected 288 gto some day.. my favorite Ferrari
So many companies donate to all you youtubers. Thats gotta be the best advertisement for them not only are they donating stuff they get good publicity. Im sure you need their services often.
I'm loving these videos, you should number this one, part1.. Part2 etc to help people binge them in the future.
Problem I usually see when people do this is part 1 gets the most views and then the views drop off.
@@beachlife2968 I wonder why that is?
all the OCD peolple hit thumbs up hehe... Guys.. remember it's really called CDO.. because then it's in alphabetical order :)
Part 3. Oil check and, air filter exam. After 12 YEARS!
@@beachlife2968 only if the content sucks
I'm going to leave my Ferrari in weather and wind, instead of in a garage ! This is insane, after so many years almost all works. And for Stefan of Redbaycars!! Thumbs up, thats great he is donating those boxes for you. I'm also a happy client of his web shop.
It's amazing it's still worth 80 grand...
Being a 512BB owner in the U.S., I can provide a few suggestions. Dinoplex ignition modules are known to fail with regularity. Need to replace it with an MSD 6A unit or equivalent, unless you have even deeper pockets. Camshaft drive belt service is normally an "engine out" operation. Can be done in your garage if you take out the fuel/petrol tanks. The OEM wheels are TRX type...metric dimensions...requiring metric tires. A bad experiment by Michelin...but tires still made by Coker Tire in U.S.. Good luck !!
I had an BMW E28 535i with those TRX wheels, 390mm diameter. The only options I had at the time (early 2000's) were the original Michelin's or Avon Tyres. The Avon's were twice the price. The Michelins were pretty poor tyres, noisy, and low grip in the wet
P.S. Oil ALWAYS looks good in a car sitting for years. WHY ?? .. .. because all the crap & dirt are at the bottom of the pan. NOT in the oil, as it would be .. if in a recently running vehicle. Moral of this story ?? Always good to drop the oil pan to get rid of the accumulation of sludge from sitting. Good time to check the bearing wear & install a new oil pump/pumps whatever .. while you clean & reseal. That's it. Carry on & thank you !!
Good points. This tricks a lot of people. When a car like this has been sitting for that long, there's really no point even in trying to start the engine without dropping the pan, flushing it, replacing gaskets, checking free movement off the starter, replacing all the plugs, caps, wires...
I'm pretty sure that you are the only person on this planet who uses the back of a Testarossa as a workbench😂
I expect you might be right there Tom
Pure class
Testarossa convertible no less!...
I was thinking the same 😂
I don’t think it bothers him😂😂😂
The cheepy sound is from the high tension ignition unit and it is actually a good sign and normal. My 911 from 1981 has the same setup, just from Bosch.
had an 82 911 did the same thing.. CDI box
Ditto that. Its the cdi ignition oscillator, most units from this era make this sort of noise.
@@turboslag ua-cam.com/video/yj3Rc3n7Ofw/v-deo.html would seem to confirm. That's a working BBI startup and it makes same sound
Epoxy sealed units, very little to go bad. I betcha that will work just fine
He was convinced it wasn’t normal. If they don’t make that noise they aren’t normal.
Many people use modern ignitions to replace them because they all make that annoying noise by design.
I think the ignition unit is behaving as designed. It was quite common in 80's era cars to have an alarm sound on the ignition before moving the key from ready to start. Some Mercs of the era do it.
Apart from the tail light panels being rusted, after a professional clean this car is going to be mint!
I think so too, plus replacing those intakes and fixing the starter. Others have said the ignition unit should be fine. The engine oil looks great, maybe fish around a bit to see if there is any gunk there, replace the filters, belts and whatnot. I shouldn't jinx you, but I think it's going to fire up just fine. Tires and brakes, and you have a runner. GOOD LUCK!!!
I'm binge watching this whole 512 series with my dad on Christmas day. Thanks for the quality content dude.....i have barely spent any time with my dad this year. Looking very much forward to watch your videos! 😊😊😊😊
As mentioned many times. It's normal for the ignition CDI box to make a high pitched sound when energizing the circuit. What NO ONE has mentioned is that usually these units are triggered by points in the distributor. When checking the points only use a feeler gauge to set the points gap. Never use a dwell meter on CDI. It blows up the unit and you know that will be expensive.
So, great to see a DIY Ferrari enthusiast! Getting into working on all areas of the car. Happy Holidays and looking forward to you having this beast running.
You have the ignition on without the engine running, so that whine may well be normal. I've heard a good few cars do that. You've got the ignition circuit energised. BTW I always try to minimise the time I have the ignition on without the engine running as on many older cars you can cook things like the coil(s) having the ignition on for extended periods not running the engine... So I'd say keep going and don't condemn that box or even worry about it until you're ready to try starting it up / testing the ignition system. Loving your appetite for Ferrari acquisition!
BBi owner here again. A few thoughts:
-The high pitch engine bay noise is normal and not excessively loud. Mine does it too. You can replace the Dinoplex with an MSD if you want an non-OEM update
-Your A/C is already updated to R134a! (conversion sticker seen in one of your videos). It should need a leak test and charge
-The shifter position didn't change from LHD to RHD (unlike the wiper) which could be a perk. Mine rubs my thigh with any shifts into/out of First. You have better clearance.
Keep it up!
Thanks Josh, its great to hear this from another BBi owner, thats exactly what I wanted to hear. Does the noise go once the engine starts or does the engine simply drown the noise ?
@@Ratarossa Just took her out this
Morning to double check, but it makes the noise all-the-time. Under acceleration, you don’t notice it, but now I’m hyper-attuned to it at a light or stop 😐
@@josht1091 Sorry Buddy you are going to hear it all the time now. I would love to get a video from you of yours doing the same that I could include in a future video
@@Ratarossa No worries! The answer to the high pitched noise is more accelerator 😎
I’d love to put a video together for your channel! Let me see what I can do after Christmas. Happy Holidays!! 🎄
I'm no Magneti Marelli expert, but the noise sound like a capacitor vibrating, so there is an outside chance it will go away when running. The electrical stuff still running is definitely a blessing.
I just don't understand that you don't vacuum up the engine compartment before you start opening things up. The chance of having dirt enter other areas of the engine is not worth the risk.
You and me both...
I live life one the edge LOL
was gonna post the same thing 2 second job with a hoover ,bad practice to work/service in crap.
*makes Wally's like you watch don't it*
*Like asking the viewers questions,it annoys the OCD freaks but they watch it bashin out replies from mummy's box room while eating a pot noodle & wearing star wars pajamas*
No lie, driving me nuts he's not cleaning this car before working on it. Absolutely no advantage of not doing so. Much easier to take apart and not worry about crud getting everywhere. Also easier to diagnose issues
Brilliant episode, and heartening to see such generosity from suppliers. Amazing!!!
Even though I want to go pummel the previous owner, I'm happy that it's in the hands of a knowledgeable collector. I'm also happy that you HAVEN'T YET STARTED IT. It makes me really angry when someone lifts the hood of a classic car that hasn't run in 20 years and pour starting fluid down its throat when they have no idea of the condition of the oil.
So are you happy he hasnt cleaned one thing on it yet? Including the engine compartment which hes WORKING in?
Is it just me or is everybody waiting for the best episode where he finaly washes the car. (Ok. The best will be when he starts that engine)
so cool that airbox is ok, those rubbers we have made moulds and used smooth-on products to make new ones.. worked out cheap and the ones we made should be more durable, bently advanced materials sell the moulding stuff.. We remade the induction ducting out of pre-preg carbon and painted them.. lighter, strong and they look totally the same as the originals. (the ducting was really rusty and messed up, we used the outside as the mould buck for the mould. Love Redbay and Eurospares Claudio was so helpful. cannot wait to see this moving a long merry xmas
I don’t understand the fascination of leaving the car dirty including the engine bay.
Great video and look forward to getting her back on the road
Its coming honestly products are on route to clean
@@Ratarossa It doesn't need pruducts, it needs a hoover!
That electronics unit that’s making the high pitch sound. I wouldn’t be worried to much about it, could be designed like that to let you know the ignition is on, but even if not then it will just be a component running at a frequency that’s audible. (coil whine) even new parts suffer from coil whine (mainly computer parts like graphics cards and the pitch changes when demand changes what wouldn’t be the case here)
Yes it could be a buzzer that sounds to avoid you keeping contact ON and drain the battery, you have similar things on boats for example and i’ve seen (heard it) on racecars as well.
If you look at the diagram here, there's no such thing as a buzzer. I go with the 'tchouzebra4' and the external buzzer.
www.dinoplex.org/PDF/AEC104B660780_Circuit_and_Component_Diagram.pdf
Edit : Having read 100s of threads here, maybe a high-pitch frequency whine from the caps discharging ?
Many ignition boxes make a noise like yours. It is always there, but once the car is running you can no longer hear it. Easily replaceable with aftermarket pieces that can be hidden within the original box too if it has failed, which is regrettably common with early Marelli units.
Good to know Bill, but you heard that noise its quite a loud annoying one, surely that can't be normal ?
@@Ratarossa I have not worked with that specific ignition box, but I would do nothing to it until you prove the absence of spark. Do the cam belts first, clean the fuel system and try to start this engine. If the noise is still audible over the rest of the running noises then it is time to make a noise isolator or re-locate the box away from the firewall. I am confident you will not hear it.
Great to see some progress on this car Scott. An Awesome car, that deserves to be saved. 👍👍
Noise will go from the Mag mar Once you start and run the car.
I thought the same thing
Same here, new belts first!
I’d say you lucked out BIG TIME - Ferrari electrics all working like that after 10+ years, just wow - I’m now glued to this project 👌
Scott, I'm an electronics design engineer (embedded systems) and as a fellow petrol head / past Ferrari owner I am getting into the repair and refurbishment of classic car electronics. I'd be interested in helping with this if your ecu is faulty. Let me know? Take a look here for some useful info on this ecu (search the page for 'AEC 104').
Well done Scott - you know in my experience of them injection systems - tank drained and flushed - fuel lines cleared - check fuel delivery- change filters - check system control pressure - dead head the fuel pump and check the max pressure - put the injectors in a bucket bypass the fuel pumps and push the plates down to check spray ! Replace the injector seals - If this all checks out then she will fire up easily !! I'm talking in VW terms but the principle is the same ! Only get the metering heads rebuilt if you are having trouble with control pressures ! Great Work and Videos - can't wait for the next one !!
Scott, great stuff! You are the best channel on UA-cam, hands down.
It is indeed good but for actual car restorations m539 knocks it out of the park every time
Seeing one of my childhood favorite super cars landing in the hands of someone making things happen in their own garage is fantastic. Found you after watching Matt Farah drive the Ratarossa. Thanks for the great content and Cheers!
Thanks Adam glad you are enjoying it
Seeing the incredible condition of the filter boxes makes me wanna cheer. Whereas its a small victory, any victory is better than not. Plus the condition of the oil makes me feel that the internals are going to be better than expected. Hot Diggity Dog =D
A video full of so much good news! I wonder if that noise would disappear once the car was started??
This makes me happy before Christmas
Amazing content ! I've found your channel yesterday and I'm loving the BBI videos ! I hope you will be able to finish that project soon and please, show us all the steps you take ! Cheers from Brazil..
A nice logical approach to check the functionality of all that is visible.... this goes to show your wealth, or years, of experience !
he is getting larry to clean it
My dad had a 365 bb spyder, one of the only ones sanctioned by ferrari. My absolute favourite ferrari. Well done on this 512, do it proud mate, would absolutely love to work on it.
From New Zealand, Love the videos, however it is frustrating to see some of the things you do ie shorting out the cable to the starter motor, the arcing effect will destroy the thread so not a good idea to do that. The starter sounded and appeared to turn over quite slowly, I would suggest a service with new brushes or at least have an automotive electrician check it out.
Yes I know most viewers want the car cleaned, and so do I, especially the motor before you start taking off parts. This would help to stop derby falling into the the internals.
Good luck with the project and Merry Christmas
I expected the whole starter to roll away once the juice was applied, due to the generated torque, but instead it slowly began to spin like it was on 6 volts.
I suspect the battery charger was the cause of the laziness. Considering how much current a starter draws initially.
Just wanted you to know that I am having a blast watching you revive this bellezza. Not sure if it matters but I am sitting through all of your ads, which I hope helps you financially.
I still hear it screaming “ WASH ME”
Yes please! wash that poor car already m8!
I wish you were local to me in Midlands, I’ve been binge watching the old vids, currently
following the 512 BB rebuild. I’d come over and be your apprentice, loving the in depth technical repairs that save people thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds !!! Keep it up !
Re-engineering the window mech's is a really good idea.. on 308's and similar generation stuff there are some awesome cheaper alternative things out there that are a totally worth upgrade.. Redcar Restoration in texas do coil over conversions for that era of car! They re-engineer the shocks .. send them yours and you get back a fully adjustable set, with spring adjusters for a good price! Which is awesome so they still look stock but are now adjustable! meaning.. car stays extremely original but now you can get the bounce / ride height right where it should be. The window units if you pull the whole lot out and make them more rigid / improve the cable run / lower the friction in the runners! wow what a difference. Great videos dude!! Matt :)
Scott...The cis in my 83 911sc made that same noise.. it is the ignition box working.. one day it stopped making that noise and the car stranded me so I replaced it with an MSD Box because the factory ignition was 1000 bucks! Ouch.
Sold al my project cars this year. Lets say for the largest project of my life(kids and love them every day). This is why I love watching this and appreciate it so much. Thanks!
what a relief the airfilterbox was still perfect underneath..... love watching this project ....looking forward to the next
Really enjoying this project Scott. The big names in the USA much observe with wonder at how much you can achieve in that mini double garage.
Hence the testerossa work bench.lol.🏁
Great video and that is going to be some very special car, thanks for making my 2020 more bearable and happy christmas.
Scott, looks like you've got an immobilizer key fob slot in the dash next to the radio. I guess the fob went missing with the keys. It would be great to see a video on figuring out that headache. 👍🏻
You want Harry Metcalf on that job, he did the aftermarket immobilizer removal on his Testarossa in the Sahara dessert!
@@theslimrealshady Wasn't that a great video...
I don’t even like Ferrari’s but am liking this series after going down the youtube rabbit hole and watching this restoration series. Some job on your hands but good luck,am sure it will be restored and put back on the road 👍🏻
Why in the world would you start working in that engine bay without blowing out all of the debris? Asking for problems if some of that junk falls into an area that you open up. Also, put some soap and water on that exterior and "hoover" the interior. There is no need to try to get a specialist to come from the US to detail a car that will need some paint and body work anyway.
I think he is trolling us. It is so uncomfortable to watch him sitting in that minging hairy interior, and watch him pulling bits off the engine with all that loose crap all over it that could be vacuumed off in 20 seconds
This is the best video series and channel on youtube!
thanks buddy
Blow all the crud off the engine, you don't any of it falling into the engine whilst you removing parts! Just think what could fall into those combustion chambers if you remove the plugs!
This car is a true survivor! It was meant to be restored by you! Looking forward to the next episode! Hope you and yours have a very Happy Christmas 🎄🎅🏻 and a Safe, Healthy and Happy New Years 🍾 !
Love the bits you are bringing in. Hold steady on your plan for cleaning! I am howling at those with OCD that go crazy after each video lol 👍🇨🇦
I'm watching it as therapi........😆 Has not worked yet...:(
Such a great video! Great content! Really very pleased and happy for you, Scott. Lovely stuff.
Good on you, Redbay.
Great build, I love your channel, it's feels so real and authentic. I love your tiny garage as well.
As long as the starter is out I would have disassembled it,cleaned it,lubricated it and reassembled it before stuffing it back in the car.
At least, checking the brushes !
Check the brushes!2
He can do that any time...
Great project! Excited to follow along.
I noticed the LED and the rectangular port next to the radio. That’s used for an old school immobilizer system.
You might have to disable that before the first start 👍
I'm going to say that beep is either something daft like a low oil warning, but sounds more HT to me like a primed coil
A very good friend of mine had a 1978 512 BB. It was in absolutely perfect condition and had very little miles. As soon as you turned the ignition key it made the exact same high pitched noise. In my opinion this is nothing to worry about. As a matter of fact I remember a 512 BBi that was parked next to us on a Ferrari meeting which sounded the same.
And once this engine is running again you most certainly won't hear any of this noise anyway...😄
Can't wait to hear the beast fire up!
Reach out to Tyrrell's classic workshop for when you have issues you cannot resolve, they can probably source most parts and rebuild stuff that is irreplaceable.
Great project - looking forward to the next instalment. Merry Christmas, mate!
I seriously suspect that in that car's past its either been fastidiously looked after (before being outside 12 years) or had a fairly in depth restoration especially to the electrics 😂 electrics in Italian car's of that age just don't look that good good (glove box panel) let alone still operate, also the oil inside the air filter boxes that has probably stopped any corrosion may be from the actual air filters as you can get oil sprays for filters which help pull smaller particals out the air and trap them in the oily filter surface.
The car is low mileage that Is why everything works.
It's not had much use in its 30y history.
Bit is indeed a shock to see everything works!
There's another vid where he tells that there is a paper with this 512BB from Ferrari or a dealership that says this 512BB Is in perfect state.. maybe best there is. And after that it sat for 14yrs.... sad (Correct me if i'm wrong)
@@stuartd9741 being low mileage can also be damaging to a car, lack of use is not good either.
Scott you really haveto invest in a granite kitchen benchtop, far more forgiving when working on carparts.
Looking forward to this build. Merry xmas.
Car sitting for so long gunge will have gone to the bottom of the sump so oil may look clean... I would take the sump pan off and clean it...
Sump pan? You know little about these engines. It is a dry sump, has a remote tank.
@@nssherlock4547 It may be dry sump but his point is still valid.
@@nssherlock4547 yeh i don’t know much about Ferrari engines hence me watching the channel... I didn’t know it was a remote sump, point still stands though majority of gunge maybe in remote tank not the block, so I guess could clean that out if access is easy
@@jamesread11 Plus, since the car has such low mileage, unless you suspect a problem, it's probably fine.
Recently subscribed and I'm loving the BB build so far. Don't clean it until you really really have to!
You're a star bud merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
I have to say, I've never thought I would want to own a Ferrari, but after seeing this episode I'm in love with the archaeology of restoring one of these things. It may be nice to buy a new one but rescuing one from becoming a parts car just seems so cool.
all I have to say is "clean the engine bay before attempting any thing ! it's not a ford escort !
Wow 🤩 this bbi has nearly doubled your subscribers in 2 weeks. Well deserved. Keep it up Scott.
Free parts what a kind man. Merry Christmas
He is very cool and kind for supplying those
You are on the right path mate. I am a mechanic of 30 + years and I agree with your approach. Nice cars, love all the old prancing horses.
Thanks 👍
First of all, before I would start working in that engine compartment, I would blow out all the mess out.
It’s Not OCD... Anyone with half a brain knows the dangers of playing with an engine with shit on it.
This dude sucks @ss at restoration.
Digging this project and I'm glad someone is saving this unique and awesome car. People get super intimidated by the CIS stuff but if you're like me and have worked on virtually any old European car, you can appreciate the CIS setup as a whole. The airflow meters move great, only things left to do is to check both fuel dizzys themselves for corrosion and old varnished fuel. Some of them had screens installed from the factory which should be removed and inspected. I don't know how the shops do things overseas as I am in the states, but usually a gas analyzer and a 3mm allen wrench is all you need to adjust them. As far as Magnetti Marelli, they're parts were manufactured much better back then as compared to present day, so you may be okay with a good amount of those components. That box that is making the noise is basically an ICM, and yes, some of them do make that noise when you turn the key into accessory. You may be alright there. As far as the knock-offs go, grab yourself a lead hammer designed for removing/ installing the center lugs. The lowrider guys with true wires will have them, so that's where I'd look for the lead mallet. Great project, and one hell of a score finding this car.👍
Cheers to REDBAYCARS! Quit loafing Scott.... we can’t wait for more uploads!🤗🍺😀
Scott, Love the video and the way you edit them. One man in his garage doing what he loves what could be better. Merry Christmas.
Thanks buddy, hopefully it inspires others to enjoy doing it to, don't need fancy tools or garages ....would be nice though LOL
@@Ratarossa I think we'd all like fancy equipment but we work with what we have, and the better for it.
Looks like a solid car and motor
The fact that those air scoop/intake things rusted probably saved those airboxes and mechanical fuel distributors which might only need some new O rings to be good to go. The Air filters (being like a K&N oiled maybe?) I'm guessing really saved those parts with the slight oil coating on them, Nice! I have a car with a Mechanical fuel distributor from the late 80s ,and if taken good care of they work surprisingly well. Maybe the engine doesn't have to be opened up??
The fact those rubbers dissolved themselves made sure no water went into the inlet any further.
That’s what he says in the video.
@@Peugeot306 ow, I missed that.
Best episode so far. The three first ones was a little bit "too much talking and too little work" but this episode was a big leap forward in that regard. Will keep watching and recommend to friends :-)
Beverage of choice? Careful what you wish upon me, it's only 12:30 PM....
LOL
@BERSERKER indeed, sun has passed the yardarm.. its all good
Really enjoy your videos. You do a great job of explaining things based upon your experience and perspective. Merry Christmas!
Still hasn’t been cleaned. Time to check out of this video build.
Lol OCD wins again
What a car. You got another sub. Merry Christmas dude.
Ratarossa: I wonder why he kept this Ferrari outside uncovered for 12 years. Also Ratarossa. Keeps TWO Ferrari's outside uncovered.....
he takes care of them. Big difference.... lol
@@FuckTheGlobal It was a joke and the guy needs a bigger garage :p
@@Sunedosa Who doesn't... to be fair
Love what you’re doing with this project. Compulsory viewing for all ferraristi !!!
Spend a few pounds and get a borescope camera. I can’t see how it wouldn’t be beneficial, not only to mechanical side of knowledge gain but also to the visual enhancement of your video capture.
Only thing I would do extra is to open the heads and oil everything before starting for the first time and use proper stuff, some original recipe red line oil. Everything is 14 years dry by now.
Rebuild the engine. Inspect the bearings and send the block out for tanking. Maybe wash it.
Now there are dirt cheap units available that you plug in any mobile phone...
@@WillyMcCoy50 , I think it’s been proven many times over, just because it sat doesn’t dictate a rebuild is the default path. You only rebuild when the damage is sufficient to warrant.
This isn’t your dad’s Oldsmobile!
@@jontiffinphoto Yep, leak down / compression test is all thats really needed, scope the bores and if it all looks good and the compression is good then just replace the belts and do a full service and see how she runs.
I can’t help but notice that there’s what looks like an aftermarket immobiliser installed, with the ‘key’ slot next to the stereo. I hope you either have the chip, or it’s disconnected because otherwise it looks like some wire sorting will have to happen
If its anything like the immobiliser I paid to have fitted in the early 2000s, it'll only take 15 minutes to remove as it'll have been installed so badly
6:06 Keep the radio-installation. It has been there for so long that it has earned its place in the car.
Nice soldering timelapse, really interesting video series. Thanks!
I'm very interested to see if you have compression.....and yes, I still would drop the engine and replace all soft goods, replace/repair brackets and rust in the engine bay, ETC. , but there are fifty was to do something that all have the same outcome....Best of luck & Merry Christmas.
This is addictive as a Netflix box set
Loving it Scott and can’t wait till the next episode
All the best Scott 👍
Was parked pointing up hill, I'd say that's why you still have air box's
no it seemed completely flat ground, when i uinstall the new ones hopefully I will get a clear picture, i suspect there much be a slight slope internally to avoid water getting in under normal driving circumstances
@@Ratarossa I'd say your right, really enjoying the videos, looking forward to hearing it start, and a wash lol
I love how you just do not care a crap about the aesthetics / paint work! It’s just great. For the heck of you should wash them with sand in the bucket!
PLEASE WASH THE EFN CAR!!!
Careful with that old a/c blower system, stand back before switching on, you never know what's lurking in the pipes that have sat for 12 years. Excellent work BTW!
Ratarossa stepping up in the absence of binky
@@trading7000 I follow Richard on Twitter there has been progress but video not ready for Christmas apparently :-( and the escargot gone quiet too :-(
@@trading7000 absolutely, can’t remember the last time I watched BBC that I have to pay for! I wanted to make a tv channel that just broadcasts my favourite UA-cam channels :-)
@@trading7000 oh I didn’t know about the escargot being given away :-(
@@trading7000 what a paint job 🤤🤤🤤
@@trading7000 yeh old white.. bordering on beige 😬😬😬 but the Pearl on the roof with the logo is epic
I m really excited by this project! I hope your Channel will grow thanks to it. I watch your vids since your first collab with samcrack and the quality of your content has improved dramaticamly. Congrats and keep it up! I hope you can get a hand on a neglected 288 gto some day.. my favorite Ferrari
so, it's a Ferrari spider?
So many companies donate to all you youtubers. Thats gotta be the best advertisement for them not only are they donating stuff they get good publicity. Im sure you need their services often.
He got loads of Ferraris and uses a Wickes metal ruler,,,priorities first lol
You’ve got an audience, so organise and number your videos, less click bait titles now. Keep up the good work.