Last month my brother and I flew to Las Vegas and bought a 2014 Caprice PPV with 18k miles and 300 idle hours on the 6.0 LS motor and drove it back to Texas. We had a great time.
30 year veteran officer here, I would ONLY buy a Crown Vic. Maybe a Tahoe .. NO WAY on the Explorer, city in my state is actually dumping their Explorer fleet… and I’m a huge FORD fanatic! Love the Explorer for personal vehicle, just not isn’t a cop car.
I got a 2015 taurus up here in Minnesota it was a state patrol squad. Amazing car. Only got 186k now I got it 3 years ago with 110k no major issues except my replacing the catalytic converters for the 3rd time😒 the state patrol up here are not allowed to idle there squads so they all come with pretty low idle hours PLUS IS THEY ALL COME STANDARD WITH CARPET FLOORS
Scotty Kilmer has a great video on why you should buy a police car. Many of them have idled for 500 hours or more and then drove it like they stole it😅 Cheap seats, holes everywhere from equipment that was removed and rubber plugs in the A pillar and roof. You may get a chipped ECM with no speed governor and bullet proof doors😊
The one real upside of owning a police vehicle is being able get through traffic quickly and the overall privacy, because people assume you're a cop. In my 08 CVPI I can fly up the left lane on the highway and pretty much everyone will just get out of the way for me and I almost never have anyone tailgate me. Not that I'm out to scare people or anything like that. But it is nice being able to just get where you need to go without being pestered by other people on the road.
@russiachinanorthkoreastatetv did when I was younger, in other cars i had. Not something I do anymore. When I was young it was about the fact I still lived at home and couldn't smoke inside lol. Smoking in the car isn't a good choice.
I upfit police vehicles for a living and here is my take on what he had slightly wrong or missed. 1. Many agencies (in my area) keep the vinyl 2nd row seats in the vehicles, most won't have bio-seats/1-piece seats installed unless they had a lot of issues that resulted in deep cleaning the vehicles. 2. The driver's seat has police specific bolsters to accommodate the duty belt/gear. 3. There are going to be (plugged) holes in the exterior of the vehicle and holes in the interior trim panels where we installed the partitions. 4. The current-gen FPIU is rated for a 75 mph rear crash test with a properly installed spare tire and 3rd row bracing. 5. Administrative vehicles sometimes use civilian versions in place of interceptors, or may be optioned with extras the standard patrol vehicle doesn't have: 3rd row, all cloth seats, carpet flooring instead of vinyl. 6. Most agencies won't allow the PIT maneuver unless the officer is trained and the vehicle has the "PIT bar" installed. We add extra bracing (provided by the push bar manufacturer) to reinforce the "crash bar"/mounting area. We can have 3 full grown, 6ft tall adults grab and jump on the properly installed pit bar and the entire vehicle moves like the factory installed it. (We did that to prove to a customer just how strong the unit was when installed)
Ford CVPIS and FPIU have an idle hour mrters. 1 idle hour is equal to 33 miles of driving. I saw a cvpi at an auction with 11,000 idle hours plus 120, 000 miles. The engine sounded ok.. the rest of these vehicles have heavy duty cooling, oil cooler, power steering cooler.. shop around its worth the extra money to find a good one.
I would definitely buy one of the caprices for the right price. I would also buy a ppv tahoe for a tow pig. I know some guys that are really big into buying the ppv Tahoe’s to use as a show car for sound systems because they run dual batteries, HO alternators and have the 3rd row deleted
They do have extra cooling for transmission and power steering (maybe not all). But it's probably harder to find parts cause it's an interceptor vehicle, worked in a junkyard for years and some of them parts were not compatible with the regular ones.
@@KhanJoltrane there's cooling for t-case and some don't have the connection for it, but they weren't big sellers on the fords, plus they have many different parts for the same vehicle, like the ac control, radios and such.
If I were to buy any retired police vehicle, it must be the legendary Crown Victoria, its rival the Caprice, or any older sedan before them. Police SUVs or Chargers don't cut it that well.
In San Diego County, the Sheriff's Department vehicles run the entire shift. Deputies even leave the vehicles running while they are outside the vehicles on lunch or breakfast break. The reason, per the department, is that it can take a deputy 20-30 minutes to log into all of the various computer systems that are in the car. Very bad for the environment (upgraded battery systems would be far better), but even more so for the engine and accessories.
San Diego is also not a practical place for anyone to live .. of course the city blows its resources & budgets & always needs more emergency federal funding … that’s the democrat business model
Hahahahaha. I wouldn't ever suggest someone buy any patrol car I have ever driven or any of the Harleys I ride at work. Now, I work for large metro area PD and our vehicles run 24/7. If you are looking at buying one from a small town where your uncle is the Chief and only officer AND he drives like great grandpa, then maybe...
I've lived in some areas with a lot of police activity and those cars have lots of idle time interspersed with full throttle red line acceleration. They basically get treated the way a NASCAR driver treats his rental cars. No thanks.
My current vehicle is a 2007 CVPI that was a prisoner transport for the sheriff’s department. It has been rock solid and hasn’t let me down yet- it had less than 89,000 miles on the ODO and less than 250 Idle hours (it presently has 288). When it comes to purchasing a former law-enforcement vehicle, the same rules apply when looking at a used car, with the addition of looking at the idle hours. In my eye, anything over 2500 idles hours is questionable. I would also avoid any of the Explorer, Taurus, or GM PPV variants, as all have various problems with them (the Exp/Taurus have the infamous timing chain driven water pump issue, while the GM vehicle has issues with camshaft/lifter problems with displacement-on-demand set up).
@blue5058 : the FPIU 2018-2019 have nearly No issues w/H2o pumps and timing chains (Fixed the problem Mostly) None on the the 2020-2024 FPIU they have a different Design **Also if you Dont Dog them ANY Vehicle that is RUN 24/7 will have some wear and tear even a Mercedes or a Bently will break down**Hope this helps**I personally have a 2004 CVPI and a 2021 FPIU
I've known several, several police officers in my life, and I've asked them all the question of 'is it worth buying a used police car', and the emphatic answer from ALL OF THEM, is "NO!" Some of the issues you'll run into is, lots and lots of hard accelerations! And yes, LOTS of idle time, however, a lot of Highway Patrol/State Troopers will sit under a freeway overpass, on the cement incline, nose down. What does this mean? LOTS of idle time with the engine oil pooling at the front of the oil pan, instead of evenly, or possibly away from the oil sump, where the oil is drawn in to recirculate throughout the engine. Lots of hard accelerations, plus lots of idle time (possibly starving the engine of oil) is a ticking time-bomb.
The police won't pull you over Alot for driving a retired cop car? Ik the crown Vics are old so no on that but I'm talking about dodge chargers and ford explorers
Just bought a 2016 FPIU. It’s pretty good. I just have to figure out the hazard lights issue. They just won’t come on. Signal lights are fine. Do you have any idea what I might need to do so I can fix it?
I’d never buy a cop car as 25yr + auto technician!!!!!!! EVER!!! The idle time kills those engines!!! And well the transmission, yeah it’s still pumping fluid while it’s idling!!!!!
Crown Vic's are becoming rare as most depts phased them out years ago. Most are now either repurposed taxis, 3rd or 4th owner vehicles and/or junkyard part vehicles.
You can't just walk into a dealership from off the street and buy a police spec vehicle new. You'd have to go through an agency or authorized representative who can place that order. Although currently ford is no longer taking orders for '23 explorers and has been canceling a lot of orders because they keep up with demand.
My police department has the Ford Explorers crown vics Ford torus Chevy Tahoe two military trucks. I believe they got rid of a Nissan Armada that they had I live cross the street from the police department. The state police has the Chevy Tahos Ford Explorers the new Chevy caprice that's only sold to police departments also I believe they also have a F-150 as well and crown vic with a Cobra Jet engine in one of their crown vics I live in New Jersey from Texas born and raised
I'm a retired Deputy.....do NOT buy a used Sheriff's Dept vehicle. Endless hrs of idle, endless miles of gravel roads some times at high speed. Most Depts survive on a thin budget and normal maintenance gets stretched beyond common sense.
I agree. They're often used up and, in reality, it's not THAT different from the civilian model (and it's easy to modify regular models to surpass police versions).
I a retired officer going on 2 years and Just purchased 2016 Ford Explorer Police Interceptor Utility with 138k. I'm used to driving these and the Taurus and what I loved about it was that it had a complete service history with 50 reports that was given to me from the Ford service dealership the police department had a service contract with and showed what was changed and done especially water pump changed. It all matched up with Carfax and made my decision easier and got it $1k less than what they were asking.
@Supersaiyanvegeta: Do you like the 2016-2019 FPIU's? or the newer 2020-2024 FPIU's ? I really appreciate your opinion on this **I recently purchased a 2021 FPIU and im afraid that i might have bitten off more that i can chew**thank You Sir
One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention was the upgraded brakes on most police vehicles. I am a former ASE certified mechanic (not any more because of a back injury) and current ASE parts specialist, the fact that a vehicle was originally used in law enforcement makes a big difference sometimes. Although I have not come across this situation, I would think that a vehicle ordered for K9 use would have upgraded A/C and heating systems.
K9 units don't get upgraded HVAC. They will often have HVAC ducting re-routed from the rear air unit for the benefit of the K9 along with secondary ventilation. However, no change is made to the HVAC system of the vehicle in terms of capacity. A lot of K9 units have an automatic door popper that allows the dog to exit the vehicle if the vehicle suffers any sort of failure to the HVAC system.
Don't do it. I speak from experience in the community. Most police cars are way over due for their oil changes. Check engine light been on for 10s of thousands of miles. Driving on low coolant and over heating. Hundreds and hundred of idle hours. Not well maintained in general. And driven hard as hell.
The Ford explorer has a common water pump failure and buying a used police explorer is something you should look out for. You're better off buying an ST, more power, faster, and if you really want to you can install a push bar.
Last month my brother and I flew to Las Vegas and bought a 2014 Caprice PPV with 18k miles and 300 idle hours on the 6.0 LS motor and drove it back to Texas. We had a great time.
Sup man , do you remember the name of the Auction in Las Vegas ??
@@NoName-qf2ks bought it from a private seller.
Wow that’s super low miles! & 6.0 is HuGe!
My son drives a 2014 Tahoe that used to be a county sheriff car in Colorado. It has been a great vehicle for him.
30 year veteran officer here, I would ONLY buy a Crown Vic. Maybe a Tahoe .. NO WAY on the Explorer, city in my state is actually dumping their Explorer fleet… and I’m a huge FORD fanatic! Love the Explorer for personal vehicle, just not isn’t a cop car.
Caprice PPV for the win!
@@johntyson ya know I stand corrected and I apologize… I can’t believe I forgot the Caprice! Shame on me, I was even assigned one in 94, fast af
I got a 2015 taurus up here in Minnesota it was a state patrol squad. Amazing car. Only got 186k now I got it 3 years ago with 110k no major issues except my replacing the catalytic converters for the 3rd time😒 the state patrol up here are not allowed to idle there squads so they all come with pretty low idle hours PLUS IS THEY ALL COME STANDARD WITH CARPET FLOORS
Thank you for your service. Yes, the Crown Victoria or pre-'96 Caprice are the best bet.
Scotty Kilmer has a great video on why you should buy a police car. Many of them have idled for 500 hours or more and then drove it like they stole it😅 Cheap seats, holes everywhere from equipment that was removed and rubber plugs in the A pillar and roof. You may get a chipped ECM with no speed governor and bullet proof doors😊
The one real upside of owning a police vehicle is being able get through traffic quickly and the overall privacy, because people assume you're a cop. In my 08 CVPI I can fly up the left lane on the highway and pretty much everyone will just get out of the way for me and I almost never have anyone tailgate me. Not that I'm out to scare people or anything like that. But it is nice being able to just get where you need to go without being pestered by other people on the road.
I wish, it’s 50/50 for my 2011 cvpi and mine has lights push bar dual spotlights etc😂 but that’s Michigan drivers for ya
@@Riley-dw5wy That's hilarious, here in Minnesota it's about 70/30. 70% chance they'll just move or 30% they're gonna slow down.
@@xOGKuSh do you blaze n drive?
@russiachinanorthkoreastatetv did when I was younger, in other cars i had. Not something I do anymore. When I was young it was about the fact I still lived at home and couldn't smoke inside lol. Smoking in the car isn't a good choice.
My first car was a 1976 Ford Torino ex cop car. It even still had the spot light on it. Loved that 351W motor. Paid $600 for it LOL
Wow, that's old school. Still have it?
I upfit police vehicles for a living and here is my take on what he had slightly wrong or missed.
1. Many agencies (in my area) keep the vinyl 2nd row seats in the vehicles, most won't have bio-seats/1-piece seats installed unless they had a lot of issues that resulted in deep cleaning the vehicles.
2. The driver's seat has police specific bolsters to accommodate the duty belt/gear.
3. There are going to be (plugged) holes in the exterior of the vehicle and holes in the interior trim panels where we installed the partitions.
4. The current-gen FPIU is rated for a 75 mph rear crash test with a properly installed spare tire and 3rd row bracing.
5. Administrative vehicles sometimes use civilian versions in place of interceptors, or may be optioned with extras the standard patrol vehicle doesn't have: 3rd row, all cloth seats, carpet flooring instead of vinyl.
6. Most agencies won't allow the PIT maneuver unless the officer is trained and the vehicle has the "PIT bar" installed. We add extra bracing (provided by the push bar manufacturer) to reinforce the "crash bar"/mounting area. We can have 3 full grown, 6ft tall adults grab and jump on the properly installed pit bar and the entire vehicle moves like the factory installed it. (We did that to prove to a customer just how strong the unit was when installed)
Plugged holes… that’s funny. People reselling these cars don’t plug the holes…. First thing to check when you smell exhaust on a test drive.
Ford CVPIS and FPIU have an idle hour mrters. 1 idle hour is equal to 33 miles of driving. I saw a cvpi at an auction with 11,000 idle hours plus 120, 000 miles. The engine sounded ok.. the rest of these vehicles have heavy duty cooling, oil cooler, power steering cooler.. shop around its worth the extra money to find a good one.
I would definitely buy one of the caprices for the right price. I would also buy a ppv tahoe for a tow pig. I know some guys that are really big into buying the ppv Tahoe’s to use as a show car for sound systems because they run dual batteries, HO alternators and have the 3rd row deleted
They do have extra cooling for transmission and power steering (maybe not all). But it's probably harder to find parts cause it's an interceptor vehicle, worked in a junkyard for years and some of them parts were not compatible with the regular ones.
What would break that would be incompatible?
@@KhanJoltrane there's cooling for t-case and some don't have the connection for it, but they weren't big sellers on the fords, plus they have many different parts for the same vehicle, like the ac control, radios and such.
They love retiring police interceptors just after the extra extended warranty ends
If I were to buy any retired police vehicle, it must be the legendary Crown Victoria, its rival the Caprice, or any older sedan before them. Police SUVs or Chargers don't cut it that well.
In San Diego County, the Sheriff's Department vehicles run the entire shift. Deputies even leave the vehicles running while they are outside the vehicles on lunch or breakfast break. The reason, per the department, is that it can take a deputy 20-30 minutes to log into all of the various computer systems that are in the car. Very bad for the environment (upgraded battery systems would be far better), but even more so for the engine and accessories.
San Diego is also not a practical place for anyone to live .. of course the city blows its resources & budgets & always needs more emergency federal funding … that’s the democrat business model
Hahahahaha. I wouldn't ever suggest someone buy any patrol car I have ever driven or any of the Harleys I ride at work. Now, I work for large metro area PD and our vehicles run 24/7. If you are looking at buying one from a small town where your uncle is the Chief and only officer AND he drives like great grandpa, then maybe...
I've lived in some areas with a lot of police activity and those cars have lots of idle time interspersed with full throttle red line acceleration. They basically get treated the way a NASCAR driver treats his rental cars.
No thanks.
My current vehicle is a 2007 CVPI that was a prisoner transport for the sheriff’s department. It has been rock solid and hasn’t let me down yet- it had less than 89,000 miles on the ODO and less than 250 Idle hours (it presently has 288).
When it comes to purchasing a former law-enforcement vehicle, the same rules apply when looking at a used car, with the addition of looking at the idle hours. In my eye, anything over 2500 idles hours is questionable.
I would also avoid any of the Explorer, Taurus, or GM PPV variants, as all have various problems with them (the Exp/Taurus have the infamous timing chain driven water pump issue, while the GM vehicle has issues with camshaft/lifter problems with displacement-on-demand set up).
@blue5058 : the FPIU 2018-2019 have nearly No issues w/H2o pumps and timing chains (Fixed the problem Mostly) None on the the 2020-2024 FPIU they have a different Design **Also if you Dont Dog them ANY Vehicle that is RUN 24/7 will have some wear and tear even a Mercedes or a Bently will break down**Hope this helps**I personally have a 2004 CVPI and a 2021 FPIU
It looks like Corpus Christi TX
The video is in Corpus Christi, Texas
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I’ve bought police vehicles just not from the city we buy from like forest preserves police I think there a big difference 👍
I've known several, several police officers in my life, and I've asked them all the question of 'is it worth buying a used police car', and the emphatic answer from ALL OF THEM, is "NO!"
Some of the issues you'll run into is, lots and lots of hard accelerations! And yes, LOTS of idle time, however, a lot of Highway Patrol/State Troopers will sit under a freeway overpass, on the cement incline, nose down.
What does this mean? LOTS of idle time with the engine oil pooling at the front of the oil pan, instead of evenly, or possibly away from the oil sump, where the oil is drawn in to recirculate throughout the engine.
Lots of hard accelerations, plus lots of idle time (possibly starving the engine of oil) is a ticking time-bomb.
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Lol, a ford explorer is no were near as reliable or safe as the crown Vic days.
The police won't pull you over Alot for driving a retired cop car?
Ik the crown Vics are old so no on that but I'm talking about dodge chargers and ford explorers
Nah, they'd really only mess with you if you were using it to impersonate an officer, but just driving across town to work you'll be fine
Just bought a 2016 FPIU. It’s pretty good. I just have to figure out the hazard lights issue. They just won’t come on. Signal lights are fine. Do you have any idea what I might need to do so I can fix it?
the improved suspension meeans nothin if it has to replace right..?
and couldnt a civilian ford explorer just buy that separately
I’d never buy a cop car as 25yr + auto technician!!!!!!! EVER!!!
The idle time kills those engines!!! And well the transmission, yeah it’s still pumping fluid while it’s idling!!!!!
3 years of owning a 15 taurus squad and out on 50-60k miles in that time frame I’m chugging along just fine
I guess this channel never heard of a police Crown Victoria.... Sorry but they are a million times more reliable than any "modern" vehicle police use.
Crown Vic's are becoming rare as most depts phased them out years ago. Most are now either repurposed taxis, 3rd or 4th owner vehicles and/or junkyard part vehicles.
Dance videos are always very informative. Thinking about moving around the Skidmore area from Dallas-Fort Worth
People who get this they like to act like officers even if they say other wise you can get to trouble if you drive one of this
How about a new cop car? 😂
You can't just walk into a dealership from off the street and buy a police spec vehicle new. You'd have to go through an agency or authorized representative who can place that order.
Although currently ford is no longer taking orders for '23 explorers and has been canceling a lot of orders because they keep up with demand.
It was a joke. I know you have to have the proper government credentials.
You talk to much
@@rangercwgbear6352 what do you want from him? Less information?
My police department has the Ford Explorers crown vics Ford torus Chevy Tahoe two military trucks. I believe they got rid of a Nissan Armada that they had I live cross the street from the police department. The state police has the Chevy Tahos Ford Explorers the new Chevy caprice that's only sold to police departments also I believe they also have a F-150 as well and crown vic with a Cobra Jet engine in one of their crown vics I live in New Jersey from Texas born and raised
I'm a retired Deputy.....do NOT buy a used Sheriff's Dept vehicle. Endless hrs of idle, endless miles of gravel roads some times at high speed. Most Depts survive on a thin budget and normal maintenance gets stretched beyond common sense.
Good looking out my man
I agree. They're often used up and, in reality, it's not THAT different from the civilian model (and it's easy to modify regular models to surpass police versions).
@@LITTLE1994 My favorite one was a Chevy Caprice with a LT1 engine. It was made for speed..
@@richardkoch8752 They had an L77 unless you swap it.
. It's been 20 plus years now. Old age is starting to kick my butt, but I'm sure it was a 1994 model with the LT1@@WayneKerr69420
I a retired officer going on 2 years and Just purchased 2016 Ford Explorer Police Interceptor Utility with 138k. I'm used to driving these and the Taurus and what I loved about it was that it had a complete service history with 50 reports that was given to me from the Ford service dealership the police department had a service contract with and showed what was changed and done especially water pump changed. It all matched up with Carfax and made my decision easier and got it $1k less than what they were asking.
@Supersaiyanvegeta: Do you like the 2016-2019 FPIU's? or the newer 2020-2024 FPIU's ? I really appreciate your opinion on this **I recently purchased a 2021 FPIU and im afraid that i might have bitten off more that i can chew**thank You Sir
Good way to get into a 3.0 Twin turbo AWD Explorer for a ton cheaper then a ST!
Yup! & get a family utility vehicle out of it
“Fix the cigarette lighter”
One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention was the upgraded brakes on most police vehicles. I am a former ASE certified mechanic (not any more because of a back injury) and current ASE parts specialist, the fact that a vehicle was originally used in law enforcement makes a big difference sometimes. Although I have not come across this situation, I would think that a vehicle ordered for K9 use would have upgraded A/C and heating systems.
K9 units don't get upgraded HVAC. They will often have HVAC ducting re-routed from the rear air unit for the benefit of the K9 along with secondary ventilation. However, no change is made to the HVAC system of the vehicle in terms of capacity. A lot of K9 units have an automatic door popper that allows the dog to exit the vehicle if the vehicle suffers any sort of failure to the HVAC system.
Cops in Jersey beat the piss out of their cars or suvs. If in Jersey, don't buy one. Lol
Don't do it. I speak from experience in the community. Most police cars are way over due for their oil changes. Check engine light been on for 10s of thousands of miles. Driving on low coolant and over heating. Hundreds and hundred of idle hours. Not well maintained in general. And driven hard as hell.
CVPI's or Tahoes. All other police interceptors are trash.
Caprice PPV for the win
What is this guy talking about Crown Vics get 1/2 million miles and have been bought to become taxi cabs after a full life as a police car.
NO! Don't do it. They are worn out at 50 to 70 thousand miles. Especially the ford's.
Cab companies usually buy retired law enforcement vehicles. Cabbies drive in a similar fashion.
I want one cause I’ve driven a stock one from enterprise.
The gulf is okay
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The Ford explorer has a common water pump failure and buying a used police explorer is something you should look out for. You're better off buying an ST, more power, faster, and if you really want to you can install a push bar.
the ST's have Tons of Issues with the rear Ends broken Diff Bolts ect..
The 2020’s plus have external pumps now.