Hey Voja, this device has impressed me, I like the fact that it can go anywhere and work without being 'online' . In fact after months of searching it fits all my needs and wallet. You did such a thorough 3 part review highlighting the pros and cons, and your genuine love of using the device shines through, so I thank you, I will order 1 and join, I hope a growing user community to iron out its cons. Be safe.
Yeah, being offline seems essential in a product for writing down your private thoughts. I also like that you can pop out the SD card and pop that into your laptop without having the correct cable handy.
I am happy that my videos helped :) As far as Origin goes, it's now my main daily note taking driver + kindle/kobo reader. For documents reading and markup, Note Air is still the one I use, but yeah, for writing and as a book reader, Origin's 6.8" format really works great for me :)
Can you save notes to folders? I would like to use it to take notes for particular clients and then save those notes for each client and then recall those notes per client. Hope that makes sense.
I just received mine and I am returning to it every fine minutes :). Now it would be amazing to be able to do research in the notemark on several notebooks and calendar as well.
Hi Voja! Thank for your amazing review! You should know that it was your review that pushed me over the edge to purchase my first Mobiscribe Origin. I'm excited, and looking forward to it arriving later this week. I've also been looking to buy a screen protector but haven't had much luck finding one. Although I don't think you mentioned a screen protector in your review. Would you recommend I purchase one? I feel mor comfortable having one on the screen, unless it come with one pre-installed. Thanks again for all that you share with us!
Really looks like an interesting little device it's frustrating they chose to throw such a horrible/distracting logo on the front. The OCR text search alone is already such a useful feature that the remarkable doesn't have.
Those are great videos. Very detailed and we see you spend time on the devices. I'm looking for a eink note taker and man, I'm deep diving into your channel. I hesitate between this mobiscribe and the onyx nova 3 because of the convert to text that seems great on both and the price range. But I lack two informations. Maybe for future reviews on those kind of devices, if you think it's useful, it would be great to add if the handwriting convert to text works in a different language than english (I want one that converts from french to french, for example) and the options we have after conversion to text: what can we do with the file? On what format can we export it and where? When you want to continue working on the text to polish it in a word, libreoffice or even a google doc, is it possible ?
@Cedric Andre - hope you haven't decided yet - I have the Nova 3 and I love it BUT - the handwriting to text recognition is glitchy!!! It gets word order muddled up - the actual recognition is great - very accurate - but it will muddle word order and sentence order. If I write very small it SOMETIMES gets it right - but that's not good enough. Also, you then have to save it as a PDF or it disappears as soon as you click off the page because the character recognition is not done on the device. Once saved as a PDF you can then edit, mark up with the pen as it saves it as a neo reader file - but be warned the ai is not - in my opinion useable: unless I'm doing something wrong but I can't think what. If this Mobiscribe was a bit bigger I'd get one tomorrow!!
@@honeychurchgipsy6 Thanks a lot for your feedback. I still haven't decided yet. I watch a lot of reviews but it's hard not to be able to test those for real. I am waiting for the Kobo Ellipsa because it works with Myscript and I will be able to try it in the store in France. I've tried something different in a store recently with the Samsung S6lite and, with my handwriting style, I realized I need to be careful on how I write for the conversion to text to work properly (otherwise, if I write too fast, the result is like onenote: not good at all) or use the zooming thing, but it's a tablet. So the conversion on the Nova 3 is not on the device, which means online? that would be a deal breaker for me who works offline. I didn't thought about that before, I'll have to be careful if the c--to-text works offline or not.
@@ced-1-B - I have the S6 lite and find that in Samsung notes the handwriting recognition is excellent. I write a lot using it and then transfer the docs to the big pc to be tidied up in Libre Office. It might get better as it learns your hand writing style. BUT - the tablet is heavy and a funny shape - long and thin - and I find it uncomfortable to hold for long periods. And the screen glare is really bad - gives me headaches and eye strain. That's why I bought the Nova 3 - but the ai is not good - if you write more than a sentence it will get the word order muddled up!! Hopefully they will work on this - but who knows when: I think it might be connected to the fact that the ai is not on the device - so it sends the data to the cloud - the words are correct - just the order is all over the place. However, I went on Reddit and found out that there is an alternative to using the notes app ai: if you change the keyboard to the Onyx one instead of the google one the ai works differently. Not sure if it works off line though - haven't tested yet - but here's my review of it: So far I've only been able to edit and write in the notes app after I've already converted some text using the notes ai software: I haven't yet worked out how to create a new notebook and go straight to the keyboard but it must be possible otherwise it means we can ONLY write using the pen when making notes and I doubt that. What I do is create a new notebook and convert a few words using the notes app ai - use the reflow ai option. This offers you the keyboard to edit the converted text: when you get the keyboard up to edit the converted text you will find a pen icon along the top - click on this and you will get a box to write in and a smaller editing box to the left where you can delete, start new line etc. It works pretty well - a bit slow but okay, and because you can see what it has done you can correct as you go - or not - ha ha!! And the good news is that once you have the Onyx keyboard in use you can hand write notes in Google play books and it converts them to text - just like on my S6 which is a great bonus for me, as I was having to make notes using the virtual keyboard which is a pain!! I suspect it will work in Kindle books too - can't wait to try. I would say the pros of the Nova 3 are: Great size and shape and feel in the hands - lightweight but not flimsy. Great reading experience - so much nicer than on a tablet. Neobooks pdf and ebook reader is amazing!! Notebooks are intuitive and powerful with layers and loads of templates including a music stave - I find them easier to manage than on my tablet Writing on the Nova is great - I use the pencil option which is really cool. Cons are: It is expensive at around £330 in the UK and hardly any cases available. It takes a lot of learning to get the most from it: it is incredibly powerful but you have to work out how to use it - Voja's Deep Boox Guide is a life saver. Split screen mode is cool and useful but the 7.8inch screen is a bit small. The ai problem!! I would like a Note Air which is 10.3inch, very light, but, unless the ai gets better ??? For a smaller, on the fly note taker the Mobiscribe Origin looks interesting, and the ai on that works off line too - could be a winner for you unless you need to mark up pdfs - good luck.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 Mobiscribe support has answered my question: YES, there is french available on the device (and on the handwriting recognition). I don't know which are the other languages but if there's this one, I guess there's a lot. I'm still gonna wait to see the Kobo because it’s the only one I can test on site, and I will watch Voja’s deep review to know more about it. I work on tablet nowadays, in dark mode, with the google handwriting keyboard box to text and it's ok (ok but not good and sometimes it’s really bad on certain words), and I get what you're saying about tablets as I never work on a table: it's heavy and the lighting is really bad (thanks to whoever invented the dark mode: it is a gamechanger). I guess now, unless Kobo proves me wrong in a few weeks with its myscript association, the Mobiscribe origin will be the best option for me: it really seems to fit my demands as I don't work on pdf or docs, only pure writing. I usually work on moleskine style notepads which are the kind of size the mobiscribe is, so it's gonna be fine, and the local backup and ocr are really great points for my needs. And when time will come to change my tablet, I'll go with a samsung with s pen, just in case. Thanks for your feedback, it was very helpful for my quest.
@@ced-1-B - just re-watching the review of the Mobiscribe - I really want one - something about being able to stick it in a bag or pocket really appeals to me - and with the writing feel being so good and the OCR offline - I think it could be a really useful replacement for notebooks. I can see myself in the uni library with my Mobiscribe in my pocket, writing notes, references etc. I will still probably read more on the Nova 3 as it's bigger, but wow these little guys are so cute!! I will check out dark mode for my tablet as well - thanks for the info - check back and let us know what you decide to buy - the Kobo looks really good too - but- as you get up to the 10 inch screens even an e ink device is getting heavy!!
After the your review I decided to buy it. Too bad for the battery life, when I asked Mobiscribe they claimed one week, but without mentioning the use conditions. Looking forward to receive it and start using it.
Dear Voja. Thanks so much for your Deep Guides. I think someone has already made this remark but I really do think your guides are a work of art in their own right. It is rare to see what are after all fairly technical matters described with such clarity and grace. Do you happen to know if the company has any plans to bring out the same device (Mobiscribe Origin) with a larger screen? Thanks for everything. Barnaby Capel-Dunn
Thank you very much for your kindness and support :) it really means a lot! I have talked to them about it, and at the moment they are focusing on the Origin and want to make it the best it can be. So i don't think a big one is planned in immediate future.
Thank you, Voja! How’s the reading battery life now, with the recent update? In my case I still get around 10% per hour drain. Does this improve over time? I nly had the device for 1 week.
If Supernote had this OCR functionality that would have made their products over the top of the list of e-ink devices, but unfortunately I saw on a Reddit post that they said that they don't believe searcheable notes are sensible for their device and they had philosophical issues with that functuonality altogether.
Does anyone have a chart comparing the mobiscribe origin vs original? I can't seem to find anything on their website, and a google and youtube search did not bring me any comparison.
Very intriguing device. My question: when text is converted, can one automatically remove the "hard returns" so that text flows line to line? Thank you.
Yes, you can edit the text in many ways, and thr changes are saved, meaning when you return to the note, all of the changes in the OCR conversion are kept.
@@MyDeepGuide OK, I am taking it that I can "automatically" remove hard returns so the text flows, rather than putting the cursor at the beginning of every line and hitting backspace to delete the extra return. Thank you.
@@MyDeepGuide If one will be working with the text on a PC, it sounds as if it would often be better to retain the hard returns until the text is on the PC and just search and replace the hard returns then. That would be faster than deleting hard returns one by one.
Are you sure about the quadcore cpu? Because that is around less than half the speed of Boox Nova. Please confirm because it could be a deal breaker for me :/
@@MyDeepGuide you have to tap on the recognition language in order to download more languages for the OCR. I tested with greek, which is very good, but the simultaneous recognition of both languages is not working very well like rm2
How’s the instability affect the note taking aspect? Do you feel trigger shy about trusting that your notes will be saved in case of a crash? I wouldn’t want to buy a device I couldn’t trust.
I find that the backup system works great, so as long as i make backups, i feel quite confident. In fact, a lot more relaxed than relying on internet connection and external cloud solution, but that's just my view of that matter.
@@MyDeepGuide Your reviews are great. I wish you would stop qualifying your evaluations with statements about how "that's just my view of that matter," etc. We know it's you.
I purchased this item and decided to return it. I need a dependable device to use for Chinese. This will display Chinese characters well but it's a laughing pain to type. The installed input keyboard is for Taiwan and uses Zhuyin. The only people who will be able to use that are people from Taiwan. The company is either ignorant to the most popular Chinese input keyboard or is making a political statement. It's hilarious to not have Pinyin, the most common of all Chinese inputs. So I purchased a Supernote A6X and don't expect to have any problems. I also have a RM2 and it's a pain getting it to display Chinese too. They are too Euro-centric. I like my RM2, just don't know how long I can use it without having to start paying a monthly fee or going off-grid with it.
Hey Voja, this device has impressed me, I like the fact that it can go anywhere and work without being 'online' . In fact after months of searching it fits all my needs and wallet. You did such a thorough 3 part review highlighting the pros and cons, and your genuine love of using the device shines through, so I thank you, I will order 1 and join, I hope a growing user community to iron out its cons. Be safe.
Yeah, being offline seems essential in a product for writing down your private thoughts. I also like that you can pop out the SD card and pop that into your laptop without having the correct cable handy.
I am happy that my videos helped :) As far as Origin goes, it's now my main daily note taking driver + kindle/kobo reader. For documents reading and markup, Note Air is still the one I use, but yeah, for writing and as a book reader, Origin's 6.8" format really works great for me :)
@38:50 I am sure you have by now, but for anyone else who hasn't, yes, the landscape mode can be rotated both ways :)
I just received mine this morning, now you can configure the orientation in horizontal mode (mentioned at 38:57)
Can you save notes to folders? I would like to use it to take notes for particular clients and then save those notes for each client and then recall those notes per client. Hope that makes sense.
@@RedNeckBiker109 I think when you create a new notebook you can set one for each client idk if that helps . That’s what I do for my classes
@@meii1012 Thank you!
I just received mine and I am returning to it every fine minutes :). Now it would be amazing to be able to do research in the notemark on several notebooks and calendar as well.
Very great deep dive. I am going to use the table feature for a personal Kanban board.
Thank you, Mr. Voja!!
As you mentioned “the Origin device will be a wolf among lions.”
Can’t believe no one has commented on the Cure reference so let me be the first! :)
Great thorough review as always
Thank you :)
this is so bad ass...and perfect price point. I would love it if it were bigger but the features are almost too good to pass up.
Nice guitar collection!🤩
How far have you managed to dive in this device. A very promising tool.
Thanks Voja!
Hi Voja!
Thank for your amazing review! You should know that it was your review that pushed me over the edge to purchase my first Mobiscribe Origin. I'm excited, and looking forward to it arriving later this week. I've also been looking to buy a screen protector but haven't had much luck finding one. Although I don't think you mentioned a screen protector in your review. Would you recommend I purchase one? I feel mor comfortable having one on the screen, unless it come with one pre-installed. Thanks again for all that you share with us!
Really looks like an interesting little device it's frustrating they chose to throw such a horrible/distracting logo on the front. The OCR text search alone is already such a useful feature that the remarkable doesn't have.
Agreed! I’m ready to make a purchase, and the text search alone has put this ahead of R2.
Those are great videos. Very detailed and we see you spend time on the devices. I'm looking for a eink note taker and man, I'm deep diving into your channel. I hesitate between this mobiscribe and the onyx nova 3 because of the convert to text that seems great on both and the price range. But I lack two informations. Maybe for future reviews on those kind of devices, if you think it's useful, it would be great to add if the handwriting convert to text works in a different language than english (I want one that converts from french to french, for example) and the options we have after conversion to text: what can we do with the file? On what format can we export it and where? When you want to continue working on the text to polish it in a word, libreoffice or even a google doc, is it possible ?
@Cedric Andre - hope you haven't decided yet - I have the Nova 3 and I love it BUT - the handwriting to text recognition is glitchy!!! It gets word order muddled up - the actual recognition is great - very accurate - but it will muddle word order and sentence order.
If I write very small it SOMETIMES gets it right - but that's not good enough.
Also, you then have to save it as a PDF or it disappears as soon as you click off the page because the character recognition is not done on the device.
Once saved as a PDF you can then edit, mark up with the pen as it saves it as a neo reader file - but be warned the ai is not - in my opinion useable: unless I'm doing something wrong but I can't think what.
If this Mobiscribe was a bit bigger I'd get one tomorrow!!
@@honeychurchgipsy6 Thanks a lot for your feedback. I still haven't decided yet. I watch a lot of reviews but it's hard not to be able to test those for real. I am waiting for the Kobo Ellipsa because it works with Myscript and I will be able to try it in the store in France. I've tried something different in a store recently with the Samsung S6lite and, with my handwriting style, I realized I need to be careful on how I write for the conversion to text to work properly (otherwise, if I write too fast, the result is like onenote: not good at all) or use the zooming thing, but it's a tablet. So the conversion on the Nova 3 is not on the device, which means online? that would be a deal breaker for me who works offline. I didn't thought about that before, I'll have to be careful if the c--to-text works offline or not.
@@ced-1-B - I have the S6 lite and find that in Samsung notes the handwriting recognition is excellent. I write a lot using it and then transfer the docs to the big pc to be tidied up in Libre Office. It might get better as it learns your hand writing style.
BUT - the tablet is heavy and a funny shape - long and thin - and I find it uncomfortable to hold for long periods.
And the screen glare is really bad - gives me headaches and eye strain.
That's why I bought the Nova 3 - but the ai is not good - if you write more than a sentence it will get the word order muddled up!! Hopefully they will work on this - but who knows when: I think it might be connected to the fact that the ai is not on the device - so it sends the data to the cloud - the words are correct - just the order is all over the place.
However, I went on Reddit and found out that there is an alternative to using the notes app ai: if you change the keyboard to the Onyx one instead of the google one the ai works differently. Not sure if it works off line though - haven't tested yet - but here's my review of it:
So far I've only been able to edit and write in the notes app after I've already converted some text using the notes ai software: I haven't yet worked out how to create a new notebook and go straight to the keyboard but it must be possible otherwise it means we can ONLY write using the pen when making notes and I doubt that.
What I do is create a new notebook and convert a few words using the notes app ai - use the reflow ai option. This offers you the keyboard to edit the converted text: when you get the keyboard up to edit the converted text you will find a pen icon along the top - click on this and you will get a box to write in and a smaller editing box to the left where you can delete, start new line etc.
It works pretty well - a bit slow but okay, and because you can see what it has done you can correct as you go - or not - ha ha!!
And the good news is that once you have the Onyx keyboard in use you can hand write notes in Google play books and it converts them to text - just like on my S6 which is a great bonus for me, as I was having to make notes using the virtual keyboard which is a pain!!
I suspect it will work in Kindle books too - can't wait to try.
I would say the pros of the Nova 3 are:
Great size and shape and feel in the hands - lightweight but not flimsy.
Great reading experience - so much nicer than on a tablet.
Neobooks pdf and ebook reader is amazing!!
Notebooks are intuitive and powerful with layers and loads of templates including a music stave - I find them easier to manage than on my tablet
Writing on the Nova is great - I use the pencil option which is really cool.
Cons are:
It is expensive at around £330 in the UK and hardly any cases available.
It takes a lot of learning to get the most from it: it is incredibly powerful but you have to work out how to use it - Voja's Deep Boox Guide is a life saver.
Split screen mode is cool and useful but the 7.8inch screen is a bit small.
The ai problem!!
I would like a Note Air which is 10.3inch, very light, but, unless the ai gets better ???
For a smaller, on the fly note taker the Mobiscribe Origin looks interesting, and the ai on that works off line too - could be a winner for you unless you need to mark up pdfs - good luck.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 Mobiscribe support has answered my question: YES, there is french available on the device (and on the handwriting recognition). I don't know which are the other languages but if there's this one, I guess there's a lot.
I'm still gonna wait to see the Kobo because it’s the only one I can test on site, and I will watch Voja’s deep review to know more about it.
I work on tablet nowadays, in dark mode, with the google handwriting keyboard box to text and it's ok (ok but not good and sometimes it’s really bad on certain words), and I get what you're saying about tablets as I never work on a table: it's heavy and the lighting is really bad (thanks to whoever invented the dark mode: it is a gamechanger).
I guess now, unless Kobo proves me wrong in a few weeks with its myscript association, the Mobiscribe origin will be the best option for me: it really seems to fit my demands as I don't work on pdf or docs, only pure writing. I usually work on moleskine style notepads which are the kind of size the mobiscribe is, so it's gonna be fine, and the local backup and ocr are really great points for my needs.
And when time will come to change my tablet, I'll go with a samsung with s pen, just in case.
Thanks for your feedback, it was very helpful for my quest.
@@ced-1-B - just re-watching the review of the Mobiscribe - I really want one - something about being able to stick it in a bag or pocket really appeals to me - and with the writing feel being so good and the OCR offline - I think it could be a really useful replacement for notebooks.
I can see myself in the uni library with my Mobiscribe in my pocket, writing notes, references etc.
I will still probably read more on the Nova 3 as it's bigger, but wow these little guys are so cute!!
I will check out dark mode for my tablet as well - thanks for the info - check back and let us know what you decide to buy - the Kobo looks really good too - but- as you get up to the 10 inch screens even an e ink device is getting heavy!!
After the your review I decided to buy it. Too bad for the battery life, when I asked Mobiscribe they claimed one week, but without mentioning the use conditions. Looking forward to receive it and start using it.
Give us a feedback
@@alialsaffar9 Just received today, So far I had a good feeling, I'll probably do a review on my channel (in italian and not as accurate as Voja)
@@AndreaGangemi hope you enjoy it and be happy with it! :)
Dear Voja. Thanks so much for your Deep Guides. I think someone has already made this remark but I really do think your guides are a work of art in their own right. It is rare to see what are after all fairly technical matters described with such clarity and grace.
Do you happen to know if the company has any plans to bring out the same device (Mobiscribe Origin) with a larger screen? Thanks for everything. Barnaby Capel-Dunn
Thank you very much for your kindness and support :) it really means a lot! I have talked to them about it, and at the moment they are focusing on the Origin and want to make it the best it can be. So i don't think a big one is planned in immediate future.
@@MyDeepGuide Many thanks, Voja
if you fill in a template like you created, and then ocr your handriting, does it format to the form or just convert as a dump of text?
The best part is that I can install OneDrive and read all the documents I have on my PC.
Thank you very much! Does it have an infiitive paper mode?
Thank you, Voja! How’s the reading battery life now, with the recent update? In my case I still get around 10% per hour drain. Does this improve over time? I nly had the device for 1 week.
Can it do "reverse ocr" to generate a hand-written looking document using your personalized writing?
No.
If Supernote had this OCR functionality that would have made their products over the top of the list of e-ink devices, but unfortunately I saw on a Reddit post that they said that they don't believe searcheable notes are sensible for their device and they had philosophical issues with that functuonality altogether.
Thanks for this thorough review. It is interested for field work, note taking, etc. Does the OCR work in other languages than English?
You must compare with A6x and Nova.3
I want one for work. Does it have built in Email or only through Web based or cloud save?
Does anyone have a chart comparing the mobiscribe origin vs original? I can't seem to find anything on their website, and a google and youtube search did not bring me any comparison.
Can it record audio, similar to the Livescribe Smartpens?
Voja, which one do you prefer, mobiscribe origin or onyx boox nova series?
Very intriguing device. My question: when text is converted, can one automatically remove the "hard returns" so that text flows line to line? Thank you.
Yes, you can edit the text in many ways, and thr changes are saved, meaning when you return to the note, all of the changes in the OCR conversion are kept.
@@MyDeepGuide OK, I am taking it that I can "automatically" remove hard returns so the text flows, rather than putting the cursor at the beginning of every line and hitting backspace to delete the extra return. Thank you.
No, not automatically, you have to manually correct it, once.
@@MyDeepGuide If one will be working with the text on a PC, it sounds as if it would often be better to retain the hard returns until the text is on the PC and just search and replace the hard returns then. That would be faster than deleting hard returns one by one.
Could the battery drain due to the PureApK app? Their FAQ suggested to remove it after installing other apps.
This is something that I will be testing.
Are you sure about the quadcore cpu? Because that is around less than half the speed of Boox Nova. Please confirm because it could be a deal breaker for me :/
Yes, i am sure.
can you write on top of a pdf?
is the OCR working in others langages such as French ?
I think it's only English for now.
@@MyDeepGuide you have to tap on the recognition language in order to download more languages for the OCR. I tested with greek, which is very good, but the simultaneous recognition of both languages is not working very well like rm2
Oui, à présent ça fonctionne parfaitement ! Equally compatible with chinese
Is the screen 6.8 inches diagonally or is the entire device 6.8 inches diagonally?
Screen diagonal.
How’s the instability affect the note taking aspect? Do you feel trigger shy about trusting that your notes will be saved in case of a crash?
I wouldn’t want to buy a device I couldn’t trust.
I find that the backup system works great, so as long as i make backups, i feel quite confident. In fact, a lot more relaxed than relying on internet connection and external cloud solution, but that's just my view of that matter.
@@MyDeepGuide Your reviews are great. I wish you would stop qualifying your evaluations with statements about how "that's just my view of that matter," etc. We know it's you.
It works in another languages?
Price?
239$ us! that includs the device, the stylus and 3 stylus tips
You could simply Googled that mate.
I purchased this item and decided to return it. I need a dependable device to use for Chinese. This will display Chinese characters well but it's a laughing pain to type. The installed input keyboard is for Taiwan and uses Zhuyin. The only people who will be able to use that are people from Taiwan. The company is either ignorant to the most popular Chinese input keyboard or is making a political statement. It's hilarious to not have Pinyin, the most common of all Chinese inputs. So I purchased a Supernote A6X and don't expect to have any problems. I also have a RM2 and it's a pain getting it to display Chinese too. They are too Euro-centric. I like my RM2, just don't know how long I can use it without having to start paying a monthly fee or going off-grid with it.
I own one of these and I can tell you, it's absolute garbage. My Newton from 1994 was a better writing tablet.